Massacre At Vanadzor

[Arpa]

Massacre at Vanadzor.

 

There is a very revealing article in the April 17 issue of the Armenian Reporter. Does any one have the means to air the entrire item?

Written by a Dr. Karen Kakosian in translation.

It is an eyewitness account of the author's father about the massacres in the region of Vanadzor (then known as Karakilise) during 1920.

The eyewitness having been only 6 years at the time and the only survivor of his extended family relates how their villages were annihilated by the invading Turkish army. How Alexander Miyasnikian supervised the burial of about 12,900, and at another accounting 25,000 souls, mostly women and children were murdered with bayonets and scimitars to conserve the limited supply of bullets.

A sinister plot is also narrated as to how the Bolshevik forces did not intervene but rather encouraged the massacre considering the Turks as "brothers" based on the fact that the Turks were holding the banner of "socialist revolution".

 

I found the article revealing since very little is known about what went on in Eastern Armenia except what relates to Sardarapat.

Every possible archive has been pored over and scrutinized, all the way from Washington, NY, Paris and even Istanbul. Have the Archives in Yerevan and Moscow been studied as thoroughly? What dark secrets are hidden in those?

[Sasun]

This is the first time I ever heard of this massacre.

[ED]

Tragic

 

Similar mass-graves were discovered in Ashtarak, Talin, and Hoktemberyan regions in 60's and early 90's, there was a documentary about Stalin’s life and his rain of terror, in it, in rear footage people were digging out so many remains. I contacted History channel and wanted to get this tape, but it was not available for sale at that time. I wont be surprised if some of those massacres were committed my invading tuirkish army

[Arpa]

Tragic

 

Similar mass-graves were discovered in Ashtarak, Talin, and Hoktemberyan regions in 60's and early 90's,

Yes Ed,

Here is a quote from the said article;"As we can see the Armenian Genocide was not confined merely to Western Armenia. It spread and reached Eatern Armenia as well. My relatives tell that, even until now, the villagers find human skulls and various human bones when digging a well or for potatoes".

It further adds; "This massacre was not carried by Turkish or Kurdish mobs as the Turks say in justification, but by the regular Turkish Army".

 

Once again. Why do we know so little about this aspect of the saga?

Was it actively suppressed during Soviet times?

[bellthecat]

Tragic

 

Similar mass-graves were discovered in Ashtarak, Talin, and Hoktemberyan regions in 60's and early 90's, there was a documentary about Stalin’s life and his rain of terror, in it, in rear footage people were digging out so many remains. I contacted History channel and wanted to get this tape, but it was not available for sale at that time. I wont be surprised if some of those massacres were committed my invading tuirkish army

That would be from a different period - the 1930s and 40s - and the victims were killed by their fellow Armenians, ironically. There is a video from 1998 that can still be bought (I think) called "Enemy of the People" that tells the story. It isn't particularly informative though, maybe that is what you saw on TV. There is a section in it showing bones being dug out of the ground. The location looked like it was very near the current Turkish border (the hills in the background looked like the escarpment up to the Kars plateau).

[ED]

Steve

 

As I stated, SOME and probably there is a good reason some of those mass-graves been "contributed" by the Turkish army.

 

But yes, now I remember that was the title of the documentary, however, in his novel Mkrtich Harutinian "Anhayt zinvori Hishatakaran@" (The memoirs of an unknown soldier) this is what exactly the author was stating. and it makes every séance for number of reasons. when thirty was sighed Turkish idea of Armenia was included (see the map) only Yerevan region simply because high concentration of population, since other regions mentioned earlier the population was wiped out in big numbers, due to Turkish atrocities and famine. And Stalin inherited the same approach from his comrades (Turks)

[bellthecat]

Massacre at Vanadzor.

This might have been the same event in which Gurdjieff's family was massacred.

 

I did a quick search on google but couldn't find anything useful - most Gurdjieff sites are for, and by, believers - and they aren't much interested in historical facts (which Gurdjieff's life has few of anyway ).

[bellthecat]

http://www.gurdjieff-legacy.org/10journal/past/tel28.htm

 

The Gurdjieff Journal

Contents of Number 28

Volume 7 Issue 4

 

Gurdjieff's Cheek: How is it that Gurdjieff speaks so little about his father's murder, his family arriving in Essentuki "looking like skeletons", the Turkish massacre of Armenians?

 

Armenia: Theater of Perpetual War An in-depth look at an ancient people and culture that has suffered repeated massacres, as well as the two Turkish genocides, but continues to endure.

 

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