gurgen Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Pray elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DoJudo Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Dual citizenship would be a dream come true for me. I think it should be granted to every person who has an Armenian origin. As far as military duty is concerned, I think at a time of peace military duty should be optional for all, during war mandatory for men and women(women not sent to frontlines of course). Military service should be compensated by free education, insurance, and other financial assistance. Tax should be collected from all income generated within the country. However the conditions for dual citizenship are set it still would be a great idea to boost the country's economy, and befriend the Diaspora. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 However the conditions for dual citizenship are set it still would be a great idea to boost the country's economy, and befriend the Diaspora. What makes you think the Diaspora wants to befriend Armenia? The entire Diaspora is a joke in that they want to conveniently live under the stability of foreign nations, while at the same time push for Armenian national interests. You can not change the policy of government by purring from across the Atlantic. You know why Armenia, as a nation, is failing? It’s not because of a "mafia" or a "corrupt government", but because the Diaspora finds it more convenient to live in foreign lands. I do not agree with MJ much, but I agree with one statement he made in another thread in which he articulated the notion that "Armenia needs a caretaker". I do not see the logic in giving citizenship to Armenians that view Armenia as a summer resort or winter retreat. How will it benefit the economic, social, and political climate? Oh, do not take this as a "attack" or "insult" just putting things into perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teutonic Knight Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Citizenship should be granted to someone who has at least two Armenian grandparents. This is the case in Germany. In addition they should have lived and paid taxes in Armenia for at least 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DoJudo Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 You know why Armenia, as a nation, is failing? It’s not because of a "mafia" or a "corrupt government", but because the Diaspora finds it more convenient to live in foreign lands. the mafia and the corrupt government is why every single Armenian in Armenia wants to go to the US or some other western country. YES, in 1918 many young Armenians fled Armenia and did not take a stand against the Soviets or Turkey, which started the Diaspora, but the Genocide was what lead these Armenians to flee their country. Of course if we look at the post-soviet Armenian Diaspora, you can see why they fled. I doubt it's an easy step for a family to pack all their belongings, leave all their friends and relatives, and move to a country where they will be living a life of on the poverty level. Many had different reasons, although ultimately for greener pastures. My friends think I'm a nut for caring so much for a country that is no longer mine, and no longer considers me one of it's own. But I am optimistic that maybe and just maybe I and others like me will return home, and I don't mean a summer retreat in Yerevan. Why don't I pack up and go today then? I still have some work to do here in the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 I do not agree with MJ much, but I agree with one statement he made in another thread in which he articulated the notion that "Armenia needs a caretaker". The funny thing is that I have never said such a thing. This is called aptitude problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 (edited) This was in the "Armenia Reporting In Washington Post, 2 days in a row and counting...." thread. I stated: We need to help Sudan. In which you replied: Armenian doesn't need help. She needs people who claim ownership over her. The funny thing is that I have never said such a thing. This is called aptitude problem. The funny thing is you are a ********** Edit Note: clean up done Edited July 23, 2004 by Azat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 (edited) My friends think I'm a nut for caring so much for a country that is no longer mine, and no longer considers me one of it's own. But I am optimistic that maybe and just maybe I and others like me will return home, and I don't mean a summer retreat in Yerevan. Why don't I pack up and go today then? I still have some work to do here in the states. Sorry, DoJudo, I was not trying to pick on you or imply that you need to "move back". In general I feel that Armenia lacks a "middle-class" and because it does not have a "middle-class" the lower socio-economic class is being exploited. Democracy can only take root if all socio-economic levels are involved in all spheres of government. For how many more years does the Diaspora want to bankroll Armenia? In short, the situation in Armenia can be best described by this quote: “Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.” Edited July 23, 2004 by Vigil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 (edited) This was in the "Armenia Reporting In Washington Post, 2 days in a row and counting...." thread. I stated: Edited July 23, 2004 by MosJan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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