G_Kuro Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 (edited) Princess Diana : 1/64th Armenian! The most widely known living person in the world before the fatal car accident, she was well loved for not being aloof. She made removal of landmines worldwide her cause. (I got this from www.cilicia.com) Edited March 11, 2004 by G_Kuro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 This is pathetic and absurd! 1/64 with that numbers just about everyone could be related to some ethnic group. Forthermore how did they come out such number so hmmm.nevermind. I rather we pass along the torch to Turks to claim Elvis as one of them.I wonder if she also knew that number 1/64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 I've read this theory several times in the last few years...but we really havn't seen this letter found in the attic,or wherever it was found...has anyone seen this letter? Or any lineage?Anything??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den_wolf Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Why does it matter if she's 1/64th Armenian? Are Armenians so desperate to latch on to a "famous" figure? We have our own greats. Besides, she is only 1/64th Armenian (IF that is true anyway), which is close to null. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Why does it matter if she's 1/64th Armenian? Are Armenians so desperate to latch on to a "famous" figure? We have our own greats. Besides, she is only 1/64th Armenian (IF that is true anyway), which is close to null. Exactly Den! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koko Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 (edited) Of course the royal house in britain and Dianas family know about their heritage! What did you think!? Do you think they are unaware of what their heritage is? I doubt it. No one said Diana was armenian. Even If you want to deny her family history, you cant!! Fact is fact. Even if YOU want to deny that you're armenian, you can't deny your blood, and I'm refuring to everyone who so strongly objects the fact that Lady Di had an armenian link. The same thing happened when I was in armenia everyone complaining about their armenian neaighbours, to me who was visiting my homeland. Complaning about armenians...What a welcome I got! What are you so ashamed of? I don't get it. Edited March 12, 2004 by koko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den_wolf Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 What are you so ashamed of? What are you so proud of? Can you provide a credible source that PROVES that Diana was part Armenian? I am sorry, but I don't believe in "rumours." If you have a good source, I would love to take a look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koko Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 (edited) Some information is provided on cilicias homepage. Go to www.Cilicia.com and Famous People/Diana and click on her name Yeah, one should always be ciritical and never believe everything you hear you got that right! Edited March 12, 2004 by koko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koko Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 (edited) Well to answear the question of what im so proud of. The answear becomes nothing!!After hearing crap from armenians I had enough! Armenia is my homeland, and when I visit or live in armenia, as an ARMENIAN I'd rather not hear people complaing all the time...- instead of working or doing something with their lives, they were complaining about armenians. Now who are armenians? Are they animals? Are they wiches? Are they just people like everyone else? There are some decent armenians left in that country stilll but if the undecent and disrecpetable people continues to diminish the value of our rich culture, history and country. I wonder how long it will take for the recpetable armenains would leave the country because they can't stand it any longer.People shouldnt talk like that, they should get rid of that negative attitude. It was as if they were telling you that you are not important- because We are not important - We are just "bad" people =all armenians are bad, they do this they do that...etc. Well I am sick of hearing this kind of thinking! Edited March 12, 2004 by koko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den_wolf Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 I am sorry koko, but I don't see how that relates to this thread.. Maybe I missed something though. Some information is provided on cilicias homepage. I meant, sources such as the Royal family or historians. There are a lot of Armenians out there who would say that every great person has SOME Armenian roots... That doesn't mean that they do. That Armenians make that claim does not give it any credibility. You see what I mean? You need proof that she was Armenian, and by proof I mean, documented proof, by historians and so on. Until that is available, making the claim that Diana (or whoever else) is part Armenian is just silly and honestly, pathetic. Maybe Mother Theresa was part-Armenian too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koko Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 My reply was an answear to your question; What are you so proud of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den_wolf Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 My reply was an answear to your question; What are you so proud of? I think you misunderstood my question then. I was asking - what are you proud of in claiming that Diana is partly Armenian? I didn't mean what are you proud of in being an Armenian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koko Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Well, that is a stupid question. Im not going to answear that. It speaks for itself. Maybe Eliza Kework wasn't armenian maybe everything is a big misstake.Maybe it was some other lady the british guy married. Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den_wolf Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Well, that is a stupid question. No question is stupid. Im not going to answear that. It speaks for itself. Is that because you can't answer it? I think it was a pretty straightforward question. Simple answer. You (and many Armenians) want re-assurance that we have greats on a level "approved" by the British (and other Westerners). There is nothing more to it and nothing less. It's as simple as that. The psychology of an Armenian is very easy to delve into. What makes it so good to have a 1/64th Armenian in the Royal family? Would you have claimed that some poor and unknown Englishman indeed is 1/64 Armenian? Would you even have bothered thinking about it? The answer is no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 It is in the British peerage records, you fools. If someones's last name is "Kevork," then they are obviously some-part Armenian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 (edited) It is quite possible she is Armenians due to the fact that Armenians were a very significant part of the community in India, which I beleive Elina Kevork is from? Edited May 31, 2004 by Vigil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koko Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 (edited) Yes that's right. Intermarriages were very common in india between british noblemen and armenian women. Edited March 12, 2004 by koko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koko Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 No question is stupid. Is that because you can't answer it? I think it was a pretty straightforward question. Simple answer. You (and many Armenians) want re-assurance that we have greats on a level "approved" by the British (and other Westerners). There is nothing more to it and nothing less. It's as simple as that. The psychology of an Armenian is very easy to delve into. What makes it so good to have a 1/64th Armenian in the Royal family? Would you have claimed that some poor and unknown Englishman indeed is 1/64 Armenian? Would you even have bothered thinking about it? The answer is no. Dear den wolf, Diana was very famous, that is why we know about her, and people are intrested in her you see. If it was a poor british family we woudlnt be intrested? I don't understand youre way of reasoning here The thing is that Diana was famous and apart of the british royal family if she was from a poor family Im not sure people would know about her.We wouldn't be discussing her here anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den_wolf Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 I still don't understand why you would want to claim her as Armenian even though she's only 1/64th Armenian. I mean yes she's Armenian fine, but do we really need to shout and yell all over the place whenever anyone is talking about her, and tell them all that she's Armenian? What's the logic behind that? Diana is overrated, as any other British royalty. If she had been a scientist, a physician, a writer, someone who struggled, did something without having totally been given it by his position in life, I would understand why people would make such a big deal out of it, but with Diana I don't understand. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Two words den_wolf, HERO WORSHIP. People need/want other people/figures to look up to. To aspire to be, to watch and comment on. We all do this in some respects, but obviously with here it was a huge level of worship the world over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 (edited) Two words den_wolf, HERO WORSHIP. People need/want other people/figures to look up to. To aspire to be, to watch and comment on. We all do this in some respects, but obviously with here it was a huge level of worship the world over. I do not think Armenians on this forum are worshiping Diana. In fact I do not expect you to understand the ideology of Armenians because you are not Armenian, but I will try to elaborate. Historically we have always been a small minority of individuals. We either by force or for profit have left our homeland and because of this Armenians are always excited in discovering an ancient sect of their Diaspora. In my opinion I feel that for our size we have contributed more to humanity then many other races, ethnicities, or nationalities and in fact some of our contributions are masked due to the fact that some countries would rather take the credit for themselves. An example that I most often like to use is chess prodigy Gary Kasporov. He is half Armenian and half Jewish, but people know him as a Russian due to his last name being forcefully changed by Russian authorities. Anyways what ever that was Armenian in the Princess is not apparent today and to think of her as Armenian is kind of a stretch, but it is still a interesting fact. Edited May 31, 2004 by Vigil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 I do not think Armenians on this forum are worshiping Diana. In fact I do not expect you to understand the ideology of Armenians because you are not Armenian, but I will try to elaborate. I mean you didn't even have to say all that "i don't expect you to understand...." Of course i'm not Armenian, that couldn't be anymore obvious. I didn't say that Hyer are worshipping Di, my respose was to this If she had been a scientist, a physician, a writer, someone who struggled, did something without having totally been given it by his position in life, I would understand why people would make such a big deal out of it, but with Diana I don't understand Now does that make more sense? Every race believes/thinks they have done so much for world. You don't have to be Armenian to know that. And yes i'm aware as I can be of the plight and history of Armenians. But thanks for the breakdown regardles. You're not dealing with some apoosh here man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 It turns out that everyone may have Armenian origin, even the members of the British Royal family. Princess Diana, who died on August 31, 1997, had a character that looked very like an Armenian woman’s character. The reason is the fact that her origin was connected with Armenia too. “The grand grandmother of Lady Diana, Eliza Kevark, was Armenian and lived in Armenia”, informs the “JDE”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 (edited) When I brought this fact out about Princess Diana years ago in this Forum, Mosjan, some of the "golden ones" in this Forum implied that I was deranged. Ditto when I claimed that the woman for whom the Taj Mahal was built was an Armenian. Both turned out to be true. It turns out that everyone may have Armenian origin, even the members of the British Royal family. Princess Diana, who died on August 31, 1997, had a character that looked very like an Armenian woman’s character. The reason is the fact that her origin was connected with Armenia too. “The grand grandmother of Lady Diana, Eliza Kevark, was Armenian and lived in Armenia”, informs the “JDE”. Edited February 27, 2007 by phantom22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Princess Diana was not Armenian! If the claim is that she had 1/64th Armenian genes, then fine, she had 1/64th Armenian genes. But saying she has 1/64th Armenian genes and saying she was Armenian are completely different things. The title of this thread is very misleading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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