sev-mard Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 AHAHAHAHA! - ah sev, I pre-read the word 'centred' and thought you were going to say: 'it helps her keep her balance centred' ie. big booty (back) offsets big rack (front) http://queerhye.delri.net/amot.gif That's actually pretty funny, and semi true. "Balance" is key to a strong relationship@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Get ready to lose saliva talking about racks http://digilander.libero.it/meorigh/Monica...ellucci%205.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Yes, I've started a trend! Good job fellas, come to the side of Monica....muuhahahahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 (edited) Not bad eh Only someone should tell her that smoking kills and makes her smell bad. Edited January 27, 2004 by gurgen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 I don't think she smokes, just looks really dhak holding a cigarette from her shertooknyer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 feck!....I think Im gonna choke on my own saliva! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hye_Acher Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 Hello everyone i just thought you might be intrested to know that on Primetime Special Edition Airing Mon 2/16, 10:00 PM Mel Gibson's Passion Director Mel Gibson discusses the controversy surrounding his film, ``The Passion of the Christ''; Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, shares his views on Gibson's film. His Interview with Diane Sawyer will be one once again on Primetime Special Edition... Chennel ABC Good Day!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Mel Gibson for president! See what he says that no other has dared. He does not pull any punches in using the "G" word, "Turks", "murder", and "ethnic cleansing". One wonders where he learned Armenian history. Below the paragraph quoted from this; http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/entertainm..._melgibson.html Gibson added that there also are other examples of genocide. "The Turks murdered half of the Armenians in ethnic cleansing," he told Sawyer. "The Hutus got to the Tutsis. Or was it the other way around? I can't remember. And the Nazis killed Jews because they were Jews, in the Holocaust. OK? So, you know, I don't want to get into this comparative martyrdom stuff either. That's not what it's about." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Should be a groundbreaking movie without a doubt. I just hope people go and watch in peace and there is no violence or excessive picketing involved in it. I think it's a tour de force especially keeping the language in Aramiac and Latin. I'm very excited for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 (edited) Let me say that I'm not against this movie (I mean they made "Hercules" and "Jason and tha Argonauts" etc etc - other movies based on mythology...) - though it apears (from what I have read) that Gibson has taken a very narrow and not necessarily even accurate cut at the "story" - a cut that apears likely to generate soem backlash - we shall certainly see...anyway i also don't mind when I see (radical) christians getting a taste of their own medicine (boycots & charges of being anti- something or another)...but of course controversy is ussually good - no - regardless...)....speaking of...came accross this..of perhaps related interest... http://www.beholder.com/index_fl.htm For more explanation.... http://www.beholder.com/battle_begins.htm http://www.beholder.com/the_story.htm Edited February 18, 2004 by THOTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 though it apears (from what I have read) that Gibson has taken a very narrow and not necessarily even accurate cut at the "story" Is it same to assume from the quotation marks surrounding the word 'story' you don't believe Jesus ever existed or that his deeds were falsehood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Is it same to assume from the quotation marks surrounding the word 'story' you don't believe Jesus ever existed or that his deeds were falsehood? wasn't there - so don't know...and supposing a person of that name existed...maybe so - thoguh there seems to be precious little actua historical account (for one of such noteworthy deeds etc) and considering that those who wrote about him did so a generation later - also not knowing him - but through an oral history - and how much of the story is both clearly lifted from earlier myths of surounding cultures, and how much seems very politically motivated (factional rivalries and all) - well yes I'd say much of the stoy is in doubt...(and consider that I don't personally believe in miracles and life after death or divine beings or any of that sort of thing....etc etc) well yeah..but much of the basic messages are Ok...you know love thy neighbor, take care of the poor, that sort of thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Hmm...and certain doubts do exist... http://www.skeptical-christian.net/article...y_of_jesus.html and I could post a great many more of course...but I'll spare you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Ever since we got the earliest glimpse of this opus one thought has been twirling in my head. In so doing, Mel Gibson wether by design or inadvertently has denude Jesus' saga of much of the mythology that has pervaded throughout the ages. His graphic depiction of the Passion is a wide departure from similar depictions where Jesus is portrayed by Nordic looking actors and where the trials and tribulations don't even disturb a hair which is always pictured crowned with a halo. The brutal, gory, bloody and graphic nature of this movie brings Jesus down to earth as it may and once again decries "man's inhumanity towards man". Yes, I said "man". Wether Mel actually intnded it or not I think, by his humanizing, he will eventually cause an all new perspective and debate, which will eventually make Jesus a much more approachable and friendly "teacher" without all that unnecessary mythology that has "shroud"-ed Him and turned many a candidate away, be they individuals or groups of people, which brings to mind Jews and Moslems who would probably have subscribed to Jesus' faith and religion much more readily and with ease. As indicated above, a lot of people believe in Jesus' teachings but find it very hard to subscribe to the mythology that has been woven around him making Him an unattainably superhuman being (deity). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 (edited) In Mel Gibson's version Jesus does look Mediteranean. http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0335345/002.jpg plus there are two bulgarian actors - Hristo Jivkov as John of Zabedee and Hristo Shopov, the son of a very famous bulgarian actor Naum Shopov as Pontious Pilate. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0335345/ http://www.thepassionofthechrist.com/skip.html Edited February 19, 2004 by gamavor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 songs/music in the film - "Song Of Complaint" "Crucifixion" "Raising The Cross" "It Is Done" don by a duduk - played by Chris Bleth and Levon Minassian- and Pedro Eustache web page http://www.sonymusicstore.com/store/catalo...00850-92046-mov MOvses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axel Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 ...will eventually make Jesus a much more approachable and friendly "teacher" for the guy is not friendly enough as is... without all that unnecessary mythology that has "shroud"-ed Him and turned many a candidate away, be they individuals or groups of people, which brings to mind Jews and Moslems who would probably have subscribed to Jesus' faith and religion much more readily and with ease. Essentially remove what is the essence of christianism so that everyone may subscribe to what is left with "ease". Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. As indicated above, a lot of people believe in Jesus' teachings but find it very hard to subscribe to the mythology that has been woven around him making Him an unattainably superhuman being (deity). If people believe in Christ' "teachings", do they need Christ' deity to be denied in order to put them into practise? Negating the deity of Christ amounts to reducing Christianism to a mere human philosophy (thus a philosophy among others) which it is not. Arianism Encyclopædia Britannica Online A Christian heresy originating in early in the fourth century by the Alexandrian presbyter Arius. It affirmed that Christ is not truly divine but a created being. Arius' basic premise was the uniqueness of God, who is alone self-existent and immutable; the Son, who is not self-existent, cannot be God. Because the Godhead is unique, it cannot be shared or communicated, so the Son cannot be God. Because the Godhead is immutable, the Son, who is mutable, being represented in the Gospels as subject to growth and change, cannot be God. The Son must, therefore, be deemed a creature who has been called into existence out of nothing and has had a beginning. Moreover, the Son can have no direct knowledge of the Father since the Son is finite and of a different order of existence. According to its opponents, especially the bishop Athanasius, Arius' teaching reduced the Son to a demigod, reintroduced polytheism (since worship of the Son was not abandoned), and undermined the Christian concept of redemption since only he who was truly God could be deemed to have reconciled man to the Godhead. The controversy seemed to have been brought to an end by the Council of Nicaea (325 C.E.), which condemned Arius and his teaching and issued a creed to safeguard orthodox Christian belief. This creed states that the Son is homoousion to Patri ("of one substance with the Father"), thus declaring him to be all that the Father is: he is completely divine. In fact, however, this was only the beginning of a long-protracted dispute. (...) Arianism continued among some of the Germanic tribes to the end of the seventh century. In modern times some Unitarians are virtually Arians in that they are unwilling either to reduce Christ to a mere human being or to attribute to him a divine nature identical with that of the Father. The Christology of Jehovah's Witnesses, also, is a form of Arianism; they regard Arius as a forerunner of Charles Taze Russell, the founder of their movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Negating the deity of Christ amounts to reducing Christianism to a mere human philosophy (thus a philosophy among others) which it is not. ? So the claim...of course no more valid then any other claiming that theirs is the "true" religion...."living" god BS...and so much other propaganda...really nothing new.... ..onward Christian soldiers eh..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den_wolf Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 THOTH, I agree with you! That is exactly the problem with religions. Which is why we need proof rather than just word of mouth and claims that "this" or "that" is the right religion. In fact, there might be no God at all. That is exactly what I mean about basing one's thought processes or arguments on illogical premises. And of course, I would love to see the movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 songs/music in the film - "Song Of Complaint" "Crucifixion" "Raising The Cross" "It Is Done" don by a duduk - played by Chris Bleth and Levon Minassian- and Pedro Eustache web page http://www.sonymusicstore.com/store/catalo...00850-92046-mov MOvses omg!!!! i did hear that sweet duduk during the trailer!!! aaawwwww now i want to see it even more!! this is soooo cooool!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted February 24, 2004 Report Share Posted February 24, 2004 omg!!!! i did hear that sweet duduk during the trailer!!! aaawwwww now i want to see it even more!! this is soooo cooool!!!! Speaking of duduk, last night I was totally blown away. The History channel was airing a program about theft of antiquities, they were talking about the disaster in Iraq and others, when they they came to Egypt, I couldn't believe my ears, a female voice was singing Koun Eghir Balas in a very intelligible and beautifully melodic fashion, of course I could not help myself and sang along with her. I have no idea why, unless someone thought it was an exotic ancient song. I waited till the end to see if they would mention who and why it was sung, I could not see it mentioned escept that the program closed once again with Koun Eghir Balas, the whole first verse sung completely. Did any one else see it?? Do you guys/gals know the song?? WOW!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted February 24, 2004 Report Share Posted February 24, 2004 My boss at work said he saw a sneak preview last night and that is was a great/riveting piece of work. The anti-semitic fervor is undeserved he said. Of course that's his opinion, but he's a upstanding guy. I want to check this flick out even more, don't know if I'll go this week, I think the rush is going to be crazy. But I do plan to see this film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted February 24, 2004 Report Share Posted February 24, 2004 Bah you Amerikanskis are always ahead of us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted February 24, 2004 Report Share Posted February 24, 2004 Vordegh ek bro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted February 24, 2004 Report Share Posted February 24, 2004 The land of tulips, hookers and drugs... Yes, you can start feeling pity, I actually live in Holland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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