gurgen Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 Last night I went to a concert of Djivan Gasparian here in Holland with my family.Arriving there I see a pamphlet with "Turkish Style" music on it. Guess who's on the cover among Turkish dancers and singers and other musicians, yep you guessed it, Djivan Gasparian. Of course the whole Armenian community was shocked. Not only does Djivan's music even come near Turkish style music, also a lot of the music he plays was written at the time of/for, the AG. After the concert he came out to thank the Armenians who came to see him and he was very upset, naturally. He said at first: "I never knew until today that I played Turkish music", semi-joking, but you could see he took it pretty seriously. Then I realised, we are all the same to them (to Westerners). What do you think of this outrage, offending a 70-year old hero of Armenian music in this way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 Probably It was ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 It shouldn't be tolerated! The concert organizers should have been more aware about the Armenians and our music. If none of the concert administration was Armenian than Gasparian's managers should have taken care of it from the beginning. Like Armat said it was ignorance, and we can't just assume that all Europeans are educated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 I don't understand. Was the pamphlet at fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted December 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 Gasparian told me that because of the bad organisation of the concert he had arrived only an hour earlier, so he had no time to change anything. Yes, the pamphlet said that Gasparian plays "Turkish style" music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 Then, in this case maybe it's Gasparian's management team's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted December 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 No it wasn't their fault, they had given his management the wrong time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 hero of Armenian music Jivan Gasparyan can someone tell me haw Jivan is a HERO of Armenian music ??? This is not anything new for Jivan, he has been working in turkey for some time now and has some recording’s that was don in turkey – ( can’t remember the name of the singer ) it was don this summer even has a Armenian song and melodies in this cd.Is he wrong ? I don’t know – I have mixed filling’s wan our music or musicians play in Turkish bands or music, but this me and no One should fallow me, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 hero of Armenian music Jivan Gasparyan can someone tell me haw Jivan is a HERO of Armenian music ??? MosjanHe is overrated artist and much publisized Peter Gabriel's LT of Christ tracks were atributed to him wrongly.He never played a single note on that recording.His Turkey concerts are just that making money.Nothing wrong with that.I am just not into him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyEpRoFiLe Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Mosjan He is overrated artist and much publisized Peter Gabriel's LT of Christ tracks were atributed to him wrongly.He never played a single note on that recording. His Turkey concerts are just that making money.Nothing wrong with that.I am just not into him. Actually, Vatche Hovsepian inspired Peter Gabriel for his Last Temptation CD, not Djivan. Djivan is however recognised by UNESCO as an ambassador of the instrument and therefore did take some of the credit for the album, even though he doesn't actually play in the score. In any matter, Djivan, like many other Armenian duduk virtuosos, is simply brilliant at what he does! It is quite amazing that an instrument so primitive and simplistic can produce such deep sensation of the mind an body (I know, I know, I just can't help getting sentimental when it comes to the duduk). So let's not criticise and let's just all enjoy our Armenian traditional instrumental music... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 i don't understand all this rage. do you care if it is Chinese or Korean music? or even if it's Dutch or Belgian? why should dutch do about Armenian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward demian Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 My son bought the Duduk an he masterred it's function in about two hours. Now he would like to progress but there isn't any sheet music. Can anyone help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted January 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 (edited) i don't understand all this rage. do you care if it is Chinese or Korean music? or even if it's Dutch or Belgian? why should dutch do about Armenian? I think the relations between Chinese people and Koreans are quite different than relations between Turks or Armenians. Are you saying you don't mind being called a Turk? Are you saying that Dutch people shouldn't have any common decency and educate themselves about matter before they blurt things out? I never call a Chinese a Korean if I'm not sure he's a Korean. Edited January 6, 2004 by gurgen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted January 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Davo jan I know there were pictures of other artists there but that doesn't mean he is one of them. They could have made a new pamphlet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted January 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyEpRoFiLe Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 My son bought the Duduk an he masterred it's function in about two hours. Now he would like to progress but there isn't any sheet music. Can anyone help? style_images/master/snapback.png my friend, i bought my first duduk in 1998, 6 years ago, and i still can't even pretend to say that i've "mastered" it... in fact, i now have a second better one and also a zurna, but i'm still an amateur by most standards, and I DO PLAY IT ALOT!!! the duduk and similar ancient Armenian woodwind instruments are very intricate and difficult to play due to the relatively large range of notes and harmonies that they can produce... just learning proper fingering technique requires tremendous dedication and lots of practice... but in the end, it's all worth it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 my friend, i bought my first duduk in 1998, 6 years ago, and i still can't even pretend to say that i've "mastered" it... in fact, i now have a second better one and also a zurna, but i'm still an amateur by most standards, and I DO PLAY IT ALOT!!! the duduk and similar ancient Armenian woodwind instruments are very intricate and difficult to play due to the relatively large range of notes and harmonies that they can produce... just learning proper fingering technique requires tremendous dedication and lots of practice... but in the end, it's all worth it!!! style_images/master/snapback.png but in the end, it's all worth it!!! - yes it is - even if you only play one song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyeclass Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 i have the video clip with him playing the duduk with the turkish artist i think its embarassing, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 i have the video clip with him playing the duduk with the turkish artist i think its embarassing, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$v style_images/master/snapback.png why is it? whats wrong playing with a Turkish musician? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyeclass Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 why is it? whats wrong playing with a Turkish musician? style_images/master/snapback.png looooool maybe u should wake up drink some coffe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomegranate World Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Hi There. Having some experience in dealing with Djivan Gasparian, I can safely say that as long as he receives a paycheck, he does not care what he plays or who he offends. And that, is unfortunate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatavlali Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 i have the video clip with him playing the duduk with the turkish artist i think its embarassing, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$v style_images/master/snapback.png if you had known anything about erkan ogur (the harmful life form who gasparian played with) you would really regret saying these words. ogur is an impartant musician who is probably the most specialized man ever on harput (or kharpoot or khadut) folk music. but probably you don't care about this. because he is a turk and this is enough to be evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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