Rubo Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 ANKARA, Turkey (AP) - Turkey's parliament abolished the death penalty and legalized education and broadcasts in Kurdish on Saturday, moves aimed at improving the country's chances for joining the European Union. Parliament sounded more like a soccer stadium than a legislative body during a marathon debate that began Friday, with pro-EU legislators and nationalists opposed to the reforms shouting at each other through the night. Finally, Saturday morning, legislators voted in a show of hands in favor of the reforms. I wished we also abolished Armenia’s death penalty. Armenia does want closer relations with EU and therefore death penalty is a sore issue. In my opinion death penalty does not belong in civilized country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 I also agree mainly because, especially in the US, it costs a lot more to kill them than to put them in prison for life. With all the appeals, court costs, lawyers, and the rest of the theatrics, it's sometimes just easier to let the bastards rot away in prison where there will be raped on a daily basis than to kill them and get it over with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koko Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 I have heard Armenia doesn't have death penalty!W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAS Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 Ruben, isk inch e nshanakum ... "civilized country"? Che vor yeghel en yev der kan shat tarber "civilization"? SAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubo Posted August 5, 2002 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 “the deputies left a legal loophole that allows for death sentences to be passed on five jailed gunmen who staged a bloody attack on the assembly in October 1999. “ While it is true that Armenia abolished death penalty it has left a loophole in legislation. My concern is that this very loophole could also be used on other “special cases”. Sas jan good question that I can expand more but can you be more specific? I had EU countries in mind as civilized in terms of human rights. Yes there were, many civilizations before but none that had abolished death penalty until modern times. The latest on this issue By Emil Danielyan A senior Italian diplomat urged Armenia to fulfill its membership commitments to the Council of Europe on Monday, four days after its parliament approved legislation allowing for the execution of criminal convicts under certain circumstances. The Italian ambassador in Yerevan, Paolo Andrea Trabalza, told Prime Minister Andranik Markarian that respecting those obligations is essential for Armenia’s “rapid and unimpeded integration into the European family,” according to Markarian’s press office. It was not clear whether Italy and other major European nations are unhappy with the way Yerevan is meeting the specific conditions for its hard-won membership in the Council of Europe. Armenia undertook to formally abolish the death penalty and enact a set of other legislative measures designed to promote its democratization when it was admitted into the Strasbourg-based organization in January 2001. A new Criminal Code approved by the Armenian parliament on Thursday replaces capital punishment with life imprisonment. However, the deputies left a legal loophole that allows for death sentences to be passed on five jailed gunmen who staged a bloody attack on the assembly in October 1999. The special clause stipulates that those individuals who committed serious crimes before the code’s entry into force could be sentenced to death. It appears to contradict Protocol No. 6 to the European Convention on Human Rights which bans the death penalty in all cases except war, imminent threat of war or "exceptional circumstances." The protocol’s ratification is one of Armenia’s main Council of Europe obligations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAS Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 quote: Sas jan good question that I can expand more but can you be more specific? I had EU countries in mind as civilized in terms of human rights. Yes there were, many civilizations before but none that had abolished death penalty until modern times.Ruben, kartsem Norvegiayi parlamentum qnnarkvum e orenqi naxagits ( guce arden @ndunel en ) hasarakakan vayrerum SEX-ov zbaghvelu masin: Yev inch, vorpeszi "modern times"-ic het chmnanq menq el darnanq ... shun? Haf, haf... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubo Posted August 5, 2002 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 Sas, I see where you are headed. Armenia does not have to become copycat country emulating the best and worst from EU countries. I personally believe Armenians are either Europeans nor Asiatic but unique bland of two. It reflects well in our Architecture, music and literature. I spent some time in Greece and really loved the Greek openness and conservatism at the same time. It is possible to be progressive and yet be balanced as far as society norms are concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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