Arpa Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 There are Kurds and then there other Kurds.In my response to that other one who claimed to be Kurdish, when I recommended he read Raffi and see the caricature of a Kurd it was because he fit the picture perfectly. During Raffi's times and after some Kurds were so smug in their belief that they being Moslem like the Turks could please their masters by doing some of the dirty work themselves expecting in the meantime to be rewarded besides the the immediate rewards of looting and plundering the Armenian. Things have changed since then but some still don't see the reality. Below some items by Kurds. Note why this writer uses the nickname Vartan. How I came up with the following was I was seraching as to how many of our cream of the crop of Istanbul were murdered. A short time ago some idiot that professed to be Kurdish claimed that the Armenians of Istanbul were not molested. ARMENIAN GENOCIDEHalis Yilmaz (9609728y@student.gla.ac.uk)Fri, 29 May 1998 01:27:37 +0000 ARMENIAN GENOCIDE===============================================THE FORGOTTEN GENOCIDE OF 1.5 MILLION ARMENIANS=============================================== During the night of April 24, 1915, the best of the Armeniannation--the cream of the Western Armenian intelligentsia, including195 writers, 165 painters, 55 composers and musicians includingGomidas Vartabed, 340 physician, pharmacists and dentists, 175teachers and professors, 170 lawyers, and 60 architects--were allarrested arbitrarily, without any warrants, and sent to exile inAnatolia where they were subsequently executed. This was the beginingof "Ermeni Soykirimi"(Armenian Genocide) and "ErmeniKatliami"(Armenian Massacres)--the kind of man,s inhumanity to man,never before seen on this earth from the dawn of civilization to date.The darkest curtian fell onto the Armenian nation; the angel of deathvisited every home--from Istanbul to Van, from Yozgat toErzurum(Garin), from Bardizag to Kayseri(Caesaria), fromSivas(Sebastia) to Munzur Mountains and the banks of the EuphratesRiver(Firat Nehri), from Pasinler to Bingol and the banks of TigritRiver..and to Deir Zor, Syrian desert, for their final journey andfinal destinity of death. Broken dreams, husbands separated from wives, children taken away fromtheir parents and their childhood robbed..Fathers and mothers werekilled ruthlessly; young maidens were raped, their innonence violated;priests were mocked and humiliated; sanctuaries and churches weredesecrated. The entire Armenian nation and Armenia was witnessing theholocaust, with many stories left untold. Fire, mass killings, rape,torture, kidnapping was everywhere. The rivers of Armeni--Euphrates,Tigris,Iris(Yesil Irmak), Murat Suyu, Djoroh,Arax--turned red withArmenianblood.The mountains of Armenia-Pontus,Taurus,Sephan,Nemrut,Haygagan Bar-- and the valleys too were filledwith corpses, yet human caravans continued to stream to theirdestination in the desert of Deir Zor to meet their God. Today we are witnessing in Kurdistan the same dark FASCIST forceswhich are suffocating the entire Kurdish nation and once againthreatening the Republic of Armenia.And again the civilized world,especially the civilized West, with all its dismay, in deep silenceand shame, is justifying Turkish agression against the Kurdish nationand not preventing the second genocide in the same region ofTurkish-Armenia and Kurdistan. Our demands to our adversaries are clear and precise: to recognize thecrimes and apologize; to not rewrite history; to have the courage toreconcile with their past. Then we will believe in peacefulcoexistence, convinced that they are for reconcilliation. WE SAY TOTHE TURK; DO NOT RAPE KURDISTAN,GIVE KURDS THEIR GOD-GIVEN RIGHT ANDFREEDOM. It is easier to defend the truth than lies and fabrications.;it is easier to give freedom than to take it away.After all,history isfull of the demises of evil empires and dictators, and the triumphs offreedom and democracy. DON'T FORGET 1.5 MILLON INNOCENT ARMENIANSDON'T LET THE TURKS TO RE-WRITE HISTORYWE DEMAND FROM OUR ENEMY: OUT OF ARMENIAOUT OF KURDISTANOUT OF CYPRUSLEAVE ARMENIANS,GREEKS,AND KURDS ALONE! VARTAN(HALIS YILMAZ) NOTE1:-----Vartan is my nick name.As you know that there is a ban on givingKurdish name in Turkey. Vartan was one of Armanian leaders duringArmenian Genocide in my town.He was killed by the Turks.Of course Iaccept that Kurds were used agains Armenian people during thattime.(It is a shame for the Kurds!) NOTE2 ----- To Fascist Turks(Oguz,Bayram,etc..) You can swear as much as to PKK. I am not thesupporter of any organisation. I refuse to belong to catlle.But I doknow that you belong it. I am a Kurdish Anarchist and human rigthdefender.I give my support to Armenians,Greeks, and Kurds.Because Theyare right.I am a human and I am supposed to be against any genocideand any fascism.I will reapeat again YOUR STATE is barbaric andfascist.My town had 40 villiges 4 years ago.It has got 4 now.36villiges were destroyed by your state,etc. You can criticize me asmuch as you like.You have my permission! But please ,don't insult me.I have no problem with any Turkish person.I like all of you. I am justagainst your state. Note3: ----- To my Kurdish friends in Turkishsociety, You should not be member of this orgainisation.It is full ofrasists. Note3:------To my Greek,Armenian and other European friends,Give your support to Amnesty International(I work for it).Do care about human rights.Do not leave Armenians,Greeks and Kurdsalone. We need your support.Do not let Turkish army to kill innocentchildren. Do not holiday in Turkey. HALIS YILMAZ http://www.araf.net/arafiyan/bilkent/03/0613.html Kurdish poetry;http://welat.50megs.com/ Kurds I can't talk because I don't know my languageI'd like to tell you about my self but I don't know my historyI have no education because there are no schoolsI don't have a brother, he was a politician, he got killed No I'm sorry, no friends either, they are all in prison I don't have a village because it's burned downI don't have a house because tanks destroyed itI couldn't stay in my land because mines cover itI have no sister, she was a journalist, she just disappeared No I'm sorry, no relatives either, they fled from the war I don't know any songs, they are bannedI can't dance, it's forbiddenI can't tell you any stories because no one ever told me anyI don't have parents, they were hanged No, I'm sorry, no country either, it has been stolen S.W.Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 Nice post Arpa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 "We shall not rewrite history" and "Kurds were used against Armenians" do not go together, unless the person in question "admits" that Kurds are brainless dweebs to be directed and told around... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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