hunny Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Why is it that Armenians name their kids Movses?? I've never heard a Muslim name his kid Christos/Christian... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teutonic Knight Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Why is it that Armenians name their kids Movses?? I've never heard a Muslim name his kid Christos/Christian... I wouldn't say it's a very popular name.Certainly it's rare to come by a guy with that name.I don't think it's that bad considering there was Movses Khorenatsi.There aren't any Moshes or shit like that...well except a certain hagarag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Not only Armenians!!! 90% of the names in the Western world come from the Bible, although some of them are pre-Bible. 1. John - Hovhaness/Johaness - Joan/Ivan2. George -Kevork/Gevork - Georgy/Georg3. Peter -Petros/Bedros -Petros/Petr4. Steven- Stepan/Stepanos -Stepanos/Stefan5. Paul -Boghos/Pogos -Pavel/Pavle6. David -Tavit/Davit -David and many many more.....but I'm lazy right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 I don't understand either (Spanir indz Movses!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 ... Spanir indz Movses!Movses e mi kitch zbaghvats a esor. Yes karogh em sksem ... inke heto ke verchatsni gortse Why parents name their kids Movses? Because it sure beats naming them Trexhayrevopolos. I can ask you a similar question ... why does the hunter close one eye before shootting? Because if he closed both eyes, he wouldn't see the pray. But on a serious note, I guess the biblical thing is a big reason for it. I also have relatives that decided to name their kids Alpha, Beta, and Omega. I don't see any muslims doing that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Bark Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Why is it that Armenians name their kids Movses?? I've never heard a Muslim name his kid Christos/Christian...Well, at least in Turkey the name "Isa" (meaning Jesus) is used. So there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 I remember Isa from Farsi ... is "Musa" supposed to be Moses? I seem to distinctly recall Isa and Musa being mentioned a few times there in Iran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Mohammed-Isa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Mohammed-Isa? no Nairi Isa=Ismail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 ... Isa=Ismail I'm pretty sure that in Iran at least they say "Isah e Maseeh" when referring to Jesus. They call Christians "Maseehy". So Isah is most likely Jesus (as TB pointed out) and I'm guessing it because of the ancient letters (ala Indiana Jones when he couldn't spell God and almost got his head chopped off) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Seapan, TB/you can be right it was just a guess in my part however ( maybe Arpa knows better then all of us) my family is also from Iran and I recall many Armenians had/have Isagul/Isagulian names, I know GUL or XUL means TSUL in Farsi, my guees was as I have come across many last names which was changes ( or forsed to be changed) like Tereterian/Qeshishian, Dagbashian/Sarian mi qutse jishte inchpes asats TB-in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 here is a web site, take a look Sip http://www.bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled/ip2.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Seapan, TB/you can be right it was just a guess in my part however ( maybe Arpa knows better then all of us) my family is also from Iran and I recall many Armenians had/have Isagul/Isagulian names, I know GUL or XUL means TSUL in Farsi, my guees was as I have come across many last names which was changes ( or forsed to be changed) like Tereterian/Qeshishian, Dagbashian/Sarian mi qutse jishte inchpes asats TB-in How did you know I was already researching?'Isa is not Ismael simply beacuse Isa in fact in the Arabic begins with the guttaural 'u, for which reason I had spelled it as "eesa". Yes Moslems do invoke all three prophets as "Eesa Musa Mohammed" and they do acknowledge all three as prophets, mind you, not gods. That may be the main reasonwhy those embraced Islam did so because thwy had a problem with Jesus deity. I do too. Only if we were only rid Christianity of all that excess mythology and that stupod theology it would be so much easier to gain converts.See below; http://armenians.com/forum/index.php?showt...t=0entry58028 "'eesa massih" is from the Arabic, at least it is Semitic, it is translitarated from the Hebrw/Aramaic Yeshua, and the "massih" , even though at this point may be interpreted to mean savior, cleanser (as in the Arabic "imsah" means to wipe to clean) it is nevertheless the transliterated form of Messiah. In the Srmenian Messiah is loosely interpreted are "prkich". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Why is it that Armenians name their kids Movses?? I've never heard a Muslim name his kid Christos/Christian...This is an interesting question.Armenians don't name their children Hisus either.Why?Whereas Jews have millions of Moses's and the Moslems have at least a billion of Mohammeds and other variations, Christians don't name their children Hisus, well, except the Hispanics where every other boy's name is Jesus, pronounced Hesus and many have names or surames od DeJesus.Not to forget that Greeks use the name of Christos/Xristos/Xristo as well as personal name for boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Why parents name their kids Movses? Because it sure beats naming them Trexhayrevopolos. I have a better one.I met this Armenian kid in Watertown and the poor kid's name is Khaghak.I can only imagine the costant ridicule he has to endure.I am not even sure it is Armenian.That is why I named my kid Arvan (real Armenian name)stayed clear of Jews and the bible and Koran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teutonic Knight Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Why parents name their kids Movses? Because it sure beats naming them Trexhayrevopolos. I have a better one.I met this Armenian kid in Watertown and the poor kid's name is Khaghak.I can only imagine the costant ridicule he has to endure.I am not even sure it is Armenian.That is why I named my kid Arvan (real Armenian name)stayed clear of Jews and the bible and Koran Khaghak?Not Armenian? Sure sounds a lot like city. Arvan is a superior name, good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 (edited) I have a better one.I met this Armenian kid in Watertown and the poor kid's name is Khaghak.I can only imagine the costant ridicule he has to endure.I am not even sure it is Armenian. That is why I named my kid Arvan (real Armenian name)stayed clear of Jews and the bible and Koran I just saw this post. I am assuming that the name was misspelled, it meant to be Khazhak. Look here. ԽԱԺԱԿ հայ. խաժ /կապտականաչ/ և ակն /աչք/ բառերից. նշանակում է “խաժ աչքեր ունեցող”, “կապուտաչյա” /ինչպես՝ Սևակ, Ցոլակ/: Անցյալում բավական տարածված էր և այժմ էլ գործածական է: Սրանից էլ Խաժակյան ազգանունը: For those who can't see the ArmFont or can't read it. "Khazhak; Armenian. from khazh to mean Kaptakanach, i.e. bluish green...." Just as Sevak that means black-eye Khazghak means blue-eyed. I dare say that khazh actually means hazel (color), also note the similarity in spelling and pronunciation of "haz"(el) and "khazh". Not to forget that Abp. Khazhak Barsamian is the Primate of the Eastern Diocese. The above Arm. text is from here; http://armenian.name/index.php?a=list&d=5&p=1&w1=%D4%BD Edited January 30, 2004 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 (edited) I can't find it now. Sometime ago I read somewhere that the name Movses/Moses is in fact Egyptian and it does mean Egyptian. The story goes that as an infant he was placed in a basket and left in the marshes to be discovered by the Egyptian princess who named him Moses. What I read some time ago says that the name in its original Egyptian form is actually Ms[r], which in time turned into Moses/Moshe. Obviously a hellenized form ending in -es. We know that natives of Egypt call their country Misr which apparently comes from antiquity, from ancient Egypt. It is also believed that the name Egypt is from the Greek via Latin and that it was named so based on the Greek interpretaion of Hi-ku-Ptah which is was what the Egyptians called their city of Memphis. And yes, in Arabic and other Semitic languages it is Musa. Not to confuse with the name of that Armenian mountain Musa Ler which is based on the Armenian word "musa" to mean muse. :clap: Edited January 30, 2004 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 My name is 'Harisa'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 My name is 'Harisa'. The mask is ripped away. Now we know what you look like. http://www.lebanon.at/gallery/details.php?image_id=49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nvard Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 There's no wonder why the Muslim have the names that may seem Christian.The story of Koran is actually the same as the Bible's.The difference is that the Bible is over on Jesus and Koran continues to Muhammed. So the names are the same. Ibrahim-Abraham Isa-Jesus Musa-Movses, Moses Noah-Nuh, Nuhim. Solomon-Suleiman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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