turks and their masonic allies

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always been for the christians

in the middle-east. the turks

and their masonic allies in my

area taught us in school to

respect non-christians as there are more of them and that christianity is all wet

and to speak out for the truth

as i did made me a non-person

in local society and my continually speaking out about

the muslims in bosnia getting

their just desserts also have

brought about another result:

my father needed more medical

attention and it was denied.

on may 26 of last year he died

and to all infidels i swear

fight to the death! the turks

did to your people the same

as the masons did to my area

by moving in scum from other

areas to maintain their numbers in their satanic synogues (temples) and as a

means to restrict our civil

liberies. but in the ways the

turks operated within the last

100 years the same has happened in my area. with the

collapase of the soviet union

things concerning armenia has

never been mentioned, i used

to enjoy the national geographic magazine, but i've

noticed a bias in favor of

muslims and communisim and

the articles on armenia was

like your people are on your

way out and the infidels would

occupy your homeland or what

mocsow was the only savior for

your people. 1991 has proven

otherwise, and our governmnt's

bias in favor of turkey isn't

any surprise as non-conformists are harrased ( i'm

not rasist, but christianity

first) as turkish atrocities

ARE condoned in the name of

containing the USSR,iraq,and

iran(an former ally that we

turned against us) but if

hating facism is your thing,

kemal ataturk should be considered in the same league

with mussolini and hitler

in terms of the state and how

to implement it and the turks

are fearful of what would

rightfully happen; PAYBACK

for so shall ye sow, so shall

ye reap, he that sows the wind, shall reap the whirlwind. and we know what the means "1915" to ALL of

them. I would like to request

that my name amd e-mail address be witheld as i've

recieved death threats with

regards to my positions on

this subject and others. if

you would like contact me as

to further visit i'd be delighted, but my troubles

with infidels of all kinds

are a disgrace to this country where my great grand

-parents came for better

oppertunities and your great

grandparents came for fear

of reprisal by the same type

of people that have secretly

ruled for at least 55 years

respectfully yours,

 

your fellow brother in

Christ,

MJ Thoma

 

p.s. This message has been moved here from our Guestbook. I notified the author about this and probably he'll come back for discussion.

Garo

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KESTON INSTITUTE, OXFORD, UK

______________________________________

 

KESTON NEWS SERVICE

Issue 6, Article 25, 27 June 2000

 

Immediate reporting on violations of religious liberty and on religion in

communist and post-communist lands.

______________________________________

 

Tuesday 27 June 2000

ARMENIA BACKTRACKS ON JEHOVAH'S WITNESS REGISTRATION

 

by Felix Corley, Keston News Service

 

Ahead of the expected vote in the Council of Europe's Parliamentary Assembly

tomorrow (28 June) on whether to admit Armenia to the organisation, there are

increasing indications from Yerevan that the Armenian authorities are bowing

to public pressure to refuse registration to the Jehovah's Witnesses. A series of

articles in the nationalist press bitterly criticised proposals that the Jehovah's

Witnesses might be registered. (One such article, in the Yerevan newspaper

Azg on 3 June, referred to Keston News Service's story of 31 May 2000

outlining Armenia's commitments to the Council of Europe to register `all'

religious groups, expressing horror at the idea.) A spokesman for the Foreign

Ministry told Keston from Yerevan that Armenia's undertakings do not commit

Armenia to registering the Jehovah's Witnesses, while an official of the

government's religious affairs committee told Keston that further changes were

needed to the Jehovah's Witnesses' statute before it could be considered. Amid

news that two more young Jehovah's Witnesses have recently been imprisoned

for refusing military service, a Jehovah's Witness representative in the

Caucasus now declares that the Armenian authorities have `no eagerness to go

forward'.

 

An official named SANTROSYAN of the legal department of the religious

affairs committee told Keston from Yerevan on 23 June that meetings with the

Jehovah's Witness representatives, headed by their Armenian leader HRACH

KESHISHYAN, were continuing to try to agree the wording of the group's

statute. `They must present a new statute which is in accordance with

Armenian law,' Santrosyan told Keston. Asked about reported remarks by

Armenia's foreign minister VARDAN OSKANIAN that the Jehovah's

Witnesses would never receive registration in Armenia (remarks supposedly

broadcast on Armenian television on 6 June but which the foreign ministry

denies he ever made), Santrosyan said he was not aware of any such remarks

but declared that the Foreign Ministry could not say that the group would never

be registered. He also rejected suggestions that widespread public opposition to

the Jehovah's Witnesses' registration would affect their registration application.

`The religious affairs committee does not take into account statements by

foreign ministry officials or by individuals - it only acts in accordance with the

law.' However, he declined to say that the Jehovah's Witnesses would receive

registration.

 

The acting chairman of the religious affairs committee, LEVON

MKRTCHYAN, speaking on the Hailyur news programme of Armenian

national television on 9 June, accused the Jehovah's Witnesses of violating

Armenian law in the charter they had submitted for registration as well as in

their activity. `In particular, preaching is carried out very publicly and in the

form of proselytism. We have cases, about one hundred complaints, when

religious preaching is carried out in schools, kindergartens and academies, and

there are complaints from residents of blocks of flats.' He claimed that there

had been cases of suicide and described the cases of members who refused

military service as `having mass character'. `And recently, after repeated

consideration, we - the board of the religious affairs committee - refused

registration of the Jehovah's Witnesses. But we continue discussing with them,

we ask them to change their charter into proper form and to respect the current

laws of Armenia.' The tone of the report in which Mkrtchyan appeared was

hostile to the Jehovah's Witnesses, noting with alarm that in seven years the

group's membership had risen from 100 to 18,000.

 

18 May Mkrtchyan wrote to Keshishyan to inform him that the registration

application of 18 April was refused because the group's charter `does not fulfil

some of the requirements' of the law on religion. Citing Article 16 of the 1992

law as amended in 1997, Mkrtchyan complained that the charter did not give

`information about praying places', and failed to spell out `features of the

activity' of the group. `It is desirable to mention more clearly the understanding

of the religious organisation of the Jehovah's Witnesses about the fulfilment of

civic duties.'

 

A succession of subsequent meetings at the religious affairs committee has

failed to resolve the differences. ARNO TUNGLER, the Jehovah's Witnesses'

representative for the Caucasus, told Keston from the Georgian capital Tbilisi

on 27 June that `nothing has changed'. Mkrtchyan has been `too busy' to meet

Jehovah's Witness representatives although he did pass on the message that

there would be no further written explanations of why registration had been

refused, Tungler told Keston. `The committee's legal department gives very

different explanations each time of why registration has been refused. They

sometimes say we must add something to our statute against proselytism, at

other times they say we must add something about military service. We never

get concrete words about what specific changes need to be made to meet their

requirements.'

 

Tungler told Keston that two further Jehovah's Witnesses have been sentenced

in recent weeks to terms of one year and two years' imprisonment respectively

on charges of refusing compulsory military service, bringing the total of

imprisoned Jehovah's Witness conscientious objectors to thirteen. Tungler

points out that the practice of sentencing conscientious objectors continues

despite the commitments to the Council of Europe to end the practice of

imprisoning conscientious objectors.

 

Despite Armenia's charm offensive in its bid to join the Council of Europe - as

part of which it made its commitments to `ensure that all churches, in particular

those referred to as ônon-traditionalö, may practise their religion without

discrimination', free all conscientious objectors from prison and introduce an

alternative service law - Armenian officials make little attempt to hide their

dislike of the Jehovah's Witnesses. In two separate interviews with Keston, on

16 June and 23 June, a spokesman for the Foreign Ministry, who declined to

have his name published, told Keston from Yerevan that Armenia's

commitments to the Council of Europe do not necessarily imply that all

religious groups must be registered, but that all religious groups should have

freedom of religion. `All religious groups - either traditional or non-traditional

- have the right to express themselves and to confess their faith. The problem

with the Jehovah's Witnesses is that they refuse to acknowledge the basic

principles of the Armenian constitution and laws.' The spokesman cited their

opposition to blood transfusions, calling this a `danger to society', claimed that

they encouraged suicide and accused them of organising `propaganda' in

schools without permission from parents. He denied that the refusal to register

the group or the continuing arrest and imprisonment violated Armenia's

Council of Europe commitments. `Armenia's portfolio with the Council of

Europe is filled. All the conditions are satisfied.' (END)

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