joseph parikian Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 YEREVAN, SEPTEMBER 3. ARMINFO. Representatives of the Kurdish community in Armenia continue their hunger-strike. Today, as part of the action, they went out into the street in front of the organization's office, performing a symbolic dance. Talking to ARMINFO, Head of the "Kurdistan" committee in Armenia Charkyashe Rash said that the dance symbolizes firmness of spirit. According to Rash, the hunger-strike was initially planned as a public action, in the street, in tents. However, the organizers applied to the Yerevan Municipality for permission too late. The next action, children's procession, is scheduled for September 14. Rash reported that the organizers have applied to the Yerevan Municipality for permission. He reported that a number of actions - rallies and processions - are expected to be held in the near future. About 30 people are taking part in the hunger-strike. On September 1, the Labor Party of Kurdistan (LPK) announced a completion of the truce with Turkey declared four years ago. At the first stage, the party intends to hold peaceful actions of protest, which are to last for three months. The principal demand is medical examination of the LPK leader Abdullah Ocalan by international specialists, as well as termination of violence against Kurdish population, in particular, in Iraqi Kurdistan. If the LPK's demands are rejected, the party intends to resume military operations...................................................................................................................... It looks like Turkey is going to have its own problems again with the " Mountain Turks " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Fasting is not a healthy way to lose weight. Just ask any decent doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caucasian Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Wrong month for fasting LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Fasting is not a healthy way to lose weight. Just ask any decent doctor. Actually it may help. I tried to limit my food and I was loosing some weight. Then in addition I tried to fast one day a month, I lost more weight. So I think it helps, but of course fasting everyday is not healthy. Perhaps 2 times a month is even better than just once. But fasting means different things to different people, I mean no food at all, just water (and maybe 1 coffee for brain starvation). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 (edited) Fasting is viewed by many as a way of cleansing the body, etc. However a number of clinical studies have demonstrated that depriving the body of essential elements even for a short perido of time is not a good idea. Small balanced meals several times a day seem to be the best alternative. Ocalan as you probably saw, lost a lot of weight in jail. You see Turkish jails are even good for your looks and over all health. As to the Armenian Kurds I can´t tell what they intend to achieve. If I remit to my late grandfather on these matters he would say: "nothing will probably be achieved by not eating or drinking except for losing weight or being thirsty", but he felt like that for a number of other things as well so, no conclusion, sorry. Edited September 4, 2003 by Boghos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 What in fact those Kurds are doing is advertising to the world the prevailing diet in Yerevan where the daily intake of food may consist of half a loaf of bread, if at all available, and a fistful of sunflower seeds.Those Kurds may do the world a favor if they could cause mass starvation and famine in the ruling ranks of Turkey, the military. That may seem impossible since those criminal murderers are well fed, thank you, by this taxpayer. If Kurds had brains they could be dangerous.Or they could do like the Vietnamese and immolate themselves in the heart of Anka/Istanbul.As the Armenian saying goes; Amuriyin knik dzedzel hesht e.Let's invent another saying; The cowardly dog barks from a distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caucasian Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 There is a similar Turkish sayings as the one above... Havlayan koepek isirmhaz - Barking dog doesn't bite Isiracak koepek dishinee goestermez - A dog that's gonna bite doesn't show his teeth I think Kurdis have a wrong calendar. Ramadan begins in November. Not in September... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 The English/American version is; Its bark is worse than its bark.Beware of the (sleeping)dog! If and when it wakes up, that is?ZZZZZZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Did you forget; Yatan itin kuyruguna basma!Don't step on the tail of a sleeping dog.The Turks may have stepped on the tail of this sleeping dog once too many times.Armenians may have been in what seemed to be a terminal coma.Watch out!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caucasian Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Arpa, where did you learn tha Turkish language? Parents??? And do you know what my avatar is??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellthecat Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 The English/American version is; Its bark is worse than its bark.Beware of the (sleeping)dog! If and when it wakes up, that is?ZZZZZZ Should be, "its bark is worse than its bite". But lets not get too carried away with this proverb thing , to quote a Scottish proverb - "Wise men make proverbs and fools repeat them". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caucasian Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Another sayin' about KurdsKuertten ewliya sokma avluya - Don't let a Kurdish mahatma(or saint) in the garden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph parikian Posted September 5, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Quoting Caucasian <(Another sayin' about KurdsKuertten ewliya sokma avluya - Don't let a Kurdish mahatma(or saint) in the garden)> But the Kurds are already in Turkeys " Avlu " my friend and sooner or later Turkey is going to feel the pain of their presence in their " Avlu " And since we are living in a diferent times i like to see how Tukey is going to deel with the Kurds if there is another uprisingWith Turkey serounded with all those hostile countries it will be intersting to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caucasian Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Do you know the song of Craig David with a Sting duet - RISE AND FALL??? Kurds in Turkey began to get hopeful for Kurdistan(or Kurdey) and you can see it in their forums clearly. I know they have been in TR's garden(but not in mine) for years but they are really hopeful. Can somebody please read my avatar??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted September 7, 2003 Report Share Posted September 7, 2003 Arpa, where did you learn tha Turkish language? Parents??? And do you know what my avatar is???I know many languages and those I don't I can always read with the help of dictionaries.As to your avatar, it is so small and fuzzy I could probably read it if it were larger. Can you transmit a larger and more clear picture of it?I can make part of the date which is one thousand three hundred and .. It is probably an Islamic date based on the Hijra calendar which is 642 years less than the common era. In other words you guys need another 642 years to catch up with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caucasian Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Sorry, my avatar is the old logo of Fenerbahce (until the alphabetic revolution in Turkey), and the date should be 1907-642. I'm searchin' for the Arabic logo right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellthecat Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Sorry, my avatar is the old logo of Fenerbahce (until the alphabetic revolution in Turkey), and the date should be 1907-642. I'm searchin' for the Arabic logo right now Huh! I thought it was going to be something interesting, something to do with the Caucasus perhaps, not just some old football team logo. I thought Fenerbahce were older than 1907, or maybe it was Galatasaray. By the way, is there some sort of different sectarian/ethnic base to the supporters of each of those teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caucasian Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 No but I can upload the flag of Kabarino-Balkar if you want. Besiktas : 19036alatasaray : 1905Fenerbahce : 1907 Ethnic base of supporters are various but the noticed thing is Kurds's love for 6alatasaray(and Ocalan, too). The cause is very simple. 6S's colours are yellow-red and the field is green. This combination is the colour of Kurds. I don't know about the supporters but I know Fenerbahce was founded by Greeks in Istanbul. But I'm not sure. Everyone speaks different about FB's non-Tyrkish founders. Besiktas was founded by Caucasian phaetoners in Dolmabahche. Most Turks call BJK as "drivers' team" because of this reason. The mascot of BJK is black eagle. Remember; eagle is counted as a power symbol in Caucasus. And 6alatasaray : Founded by Ali Sami Yen, a Jewish convert. And Frenchmen helped him found 6S. If you wondered why I did "6" instead of "G". Search "ALTI SIFIR" on the net. It's a humorized version of the name of GS. The game of 6th week in 6th November 2002 ended with 6-0. But it hadn't been good for FB. They spoiled themselves and got 1-4 from Panathinaikos and then, they had their worst season ever. But I'm hopeful. We transferred Christoph Daum as coach and Pierre van Hooijdonk as striker. He shooted 3 freekicks and scored 2, one came out of the post. We're going to play against 6alatasaray on 21st September in the Ataturk Olympic Stadium. I wait a freekick goal from PVH against 6S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Sorry, my avatar is the old logo of Fenerbahce (until the alphabetic revolution in Turkey), and the date should be 1907-642. I'm searchin' for the Arabic logo right nowNB. I lied, the converter is +/- 622 years, not 642. Now that we know what the logo is I can barely make it. The Arabic characters look like "sbor klb". Of course there is no P in Arabic and there are barely any vowels, one has to know the language to guess what the sound are supposed to be. STUPID!!! . As to the date, it is still not clear but it is something to do with 13.. (One thousand three hundred ..)One problem with that is Hijri to Gregorian cannot be exact as the Islamic year is shorter by appr. 10 days. Fenerbahce logo;http://www.fenerbahce.org/ History of Gregorian calendar. Note the dates of USA and Turkey.http://www.geocities.com/calendopaedia/gregory.htm Hijri calendar. Converter.http://www.rabiah.com/convert/ Lunar month;http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lunar%20month 1 lunar month = 29.53059 days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caucasian Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 The writing in Arabic doesn't contain the word of "sport". There may be the word "eedman" means training... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsuvan Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 (edited) I thought Fenerbahce were older than 1907, or maybe it was Galatasaray. By the way, is there some sort of different sectarian/ethnic base to the supporters of each of those teams? generally fenerbahce terraces have a nationalist atmosphere. besiktas terraces are famous with the supporter group "carsi". they use anarchists and socialists symbols in their logo. they are active in antiwar protests and many politic events. the interesting point of carsi for armenians is Alen Makarian; one of the founders and leaders of carsi. besiktas supporters nearly worship Alen. galatasaray terraces and supporters are not that important. Edited May 28, 2004 by marsuvan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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