Armenian Royalty

[Harut]

if you're into TRUE Armenian Kingdom and faith, then why do you love Mexico more than Armenia?

just wondering.

[lovemexico]

Greetings,

I'm not the Armenian King nor do have a "faith". I'm absolutely certain

about my religious beliefs which I have never presented on this message

board. I was simply creating a topic of discussion for these royals. I'm

not involved with them personally, but I am very interested in them.

As for "lovemexico", I never stated that I love mexico more than Armenia.

Why you would make such a cold statement is beyond me. I use "lovemexico"

since it is where I go for vacation with my wife.

 

As for Armenia, I plan on a vacation as well next March when I've saved more

money.

 

Sincerely,

Harry

[lovemexico]

(I have just received this kind e-mail from a fellow named Hourig Hanryon who

represents the King. Anyone who wants to write him should do so directly.

I am happy to hear from and a bit stunned that here offering me a free holiday. Signed, Harry)

 

 

 

From: "Hourig Hanryon" | This is spam | Add to Address Book

To: lovemexico@yahoo.com

CC: king@castletower.org

Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003

 

 

Dear Sir Harry,

 

I am writing you after being perfectly stunned that you should care

so deeply and love Armenia so much that you would create a category on

that

message board and actually give information about our King.

 

Please let me thank you with all our hearts for being so intelligent

and patient. Thus far, you have had two people come on and write

absolute nonsense, rather than engage in useful conversation about the

subject. Is this serious? That one person was a communist and the other

someone accusing you of loving Mexico rather than Armenia?

I was surprised that so few people understand the importance of our old

religion and the original culture that it represents.

 

We did not ask you to go on this message board, but now that you've

done so the King wishes to meet with you and pay for a month's vacation to

Armenia for

a reward. He has decided that people who promote Him should be richly

rewarded.

 

My position in the House of Ber is Grand Diplomat where I act as

Ambassador to the Republic of Armenia, the President of Armenia and the

persons of parliament.

Also, part of my task is to write persons like yourself and gains

various friendships when people has proved on their own to be Our friend.

 

Right now, I am stationed in Los Angeles but I could be transferred to

England within the next few months depending on others who might be

appointed. The entire point is to have representatives in various parts of

the world for the King.

 

We have never tried to announce ourselves in the manner you have done

on a message board. We were surprised and amazed that you would take

such interest.

I understand that you are a mystic who has views sympathetic with Ours.

 

Be assured, that such activity is always greeted with zeal on our part.

We are trying to revive and awaken, world wide, the old Armenian

religion that has been so gravely neglected by the world.

 

The King will meet with you and you will be given your vacation to

Armenia

without you having to save money. In fact, we will give expense money

as well and if your wive wishes to go as well, we will front the bill.

 

Write me at:

hourigthestrong@diplomats.com

 

And I look forward to meeting a man like yourself who seems worthy of

the title of Knight. Thank you for your kind consideration.

 

I leave it up to you whether you include this letter on that message

board. Feel

free to do so if you think it will do any good.

 

Sincerely,

Hourig Hanryon

Grand Diplomat to the King

[Harut]

wow, i'm touched. i've been noticed by the Grand Diplomat to the King!!!

who knows, maybe i'll work in the Palace one day, as a king or otherwise.

 

as for my comments, i wasn't accusing, i was just wondering.

[lovemexico]

(I've just written Hourig turning down the free holiday. I feel more clean to do this without

reward. I presenting another article by the King for all intelligent readers to look at. This is

at the end of all the other articles so its meant to be read last. I do agree that our ancestors were

stronger and I enjoyed this article, and the passion that leaps out you in its lines. My question is the

same. How long will all this take and how many Armenians have gone back to the Gods as a consequence of the efforts of these royals? It seems like such an impossible task that would take many years.

I realize that there is a lot of laughter and hostility on this message board at the thought of someone

professing to be a prophet of the Gods, but I'm convinced, as well that many will agree with this King,

at least enough to do these ceremonies. I consider all this worthy of careful observation by Armenians who

have noted the change in Armenia since the Communists had a hold on us, and one sure way to release

ourselve from there brainwashing is to attempt to achieve an understanding of our past. Signed, Harry)

 

 

 

The Future of Armenia

 

 

 

"Verily, I gazed upon my city and no long doth the Priestess of Vanatur guard the Temple of Anahit upon the birth of the child of the city. My anger was beyond the ages of ages. I called upon Ar to give me an oracle. Now I know, that of the many few are chosen, of the few many are chosen. So what is to become of our House? So I traveled to the Great Mountain in the Sacred Cave Temple of immortality, and drank of the Jugs of Ara Geghetsik and traveled downward regenerated and young to make plans of a nation that is not seen by the multitudes."

 

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law

 

By the time you've finished all these articles, you will have well understood my standing on all major issues, whether they are political, social, religious or philosophical. I have decided, that I must speak, and share my views to assist those Armenians to understand how I have chosen to view subjects that are of utmost importance.

 

By the time you've finished meditating on my conclusions you may very well be confused on how I, a King now apart from the multitudes of Armenia can have even a scrap of hope that anyone will, change the path of their present spiritual aspirations, and return to the Gods, leaving the sickness of Christian dogma behind.

 

After all, you'll mutter, this lineage of Kings opposed, and opposes the coming of Christianity and all its dogma. How can this King think that after all these years he can turn the tables and convince anyone that King Ber the Bold in 937 A.D. wasn't simply a brainless, madman seeping with jealous venom.

 

Well, you must understand that for centuries Armenians worshiped the Gods, Ar, Tir and consecrated in accordance with the will of the Hierarchy of the ancient Priesthood. Along comes a religion that restricts the basic freedom of the individual, and calls everything we call holy dirty and improper. They called our Gods devils, and told us unless we accept this savior we are all doomed to hell.

 

Our objections are ignored, and we are to either sell out or be tortured, imprisoned, mutilated or banished. Are we to give up our sacred traditions to a foreign religion that has nothing to do with Ar or Armenian, our Gods and culture? The majority of Armenia has done so. Look at you! Look at yourselves. Are you proud of what you were? Does the history of Armenia stir you? Do you see the ancient Kings before the Christian occupation and feel a sense of joy that they, after all, lived, fought and died for their culture.

 

How would these ancient Kings who believed in the Gods see the President of the Republic of Armenia and his Parliament today? Wouldn't they spit on the ground, or cry tears of pain for the way things turned out?

 

Yes, I know that you think you've won. You have 5,000 churches throughout Armenia where the Temple of Our Gods should be. Yes, I know that you think I cannot bring all this tradition back. Perhaps you even think I'll give up, fail of a heir, or even worse try to invade Armenia and take it all back by force.

 

I state here that you haven't won. You have lost everything that is dear to your ancestors. You live as though Christianity was a part of the culture of Armenia. Well, it is not. Christianity will always be the religion that came to Armenia and was rejected by its true aristocracy. We know Christianity for what it is. It is a religion that has failed its people. Child abuse, insane persecution, burning hatred for all other religious paths, bribes, secret murders, insane hypocritical priests who constantly molest boys, and above all the lack of the Priestess creating extreme unbalance in the Temple has been the norm for over sixteen hundred years.

 

No, you haven't won. If anything, the average Armenian is weaker and more prone to be conquered by invading countries. The 1.4 million massacre of innocent Armenians still hasn't been avenged. What is the Christian Armenian to do? Forgive the Turks for these murders? I call upon Armenians to return to its strength before this vampire church took away your moral courage. The moral courage of our ancestors can only be admired. It is conspicuously absent from the modern Armenian who cannot get it back any other way than those very traditions that we once held dear. Forgive your enemies, perhaps, but only after you have defeated them. The Muslim heathen Turks are weak fools pissing away their lives in the delusion of their false glories. In the past, we pushed back the Caliphate in his attempt to conquer us, tomorrow we cut out their hearts and hold it before their face before they have time to die. In the long run, you must not permit yourselves to be lied to nor conned by the surrounding countries that eye Armenia as a possible target for easy invasion.

 

Does this Christian faith that you have so naively embraced gear you toward defeat rather than moral courage, honor, strength, the basic joys of existence and true equality? Well, then discard it and return to the noble beauty of our Gods. For Armenia is a land locked country, and we must be ready for the next invasion of heathens. They will come again, no doubt. If you do not possess the proper spirit to strike back only disaster will occur.

 

With these articles that you have just read, you are given the second chance to become real men again, and prepare yourselves for the inevitable invasions that are to come. You must become the type of Armenian that is fearless. Fear is the mind killer, for in the heart of a coward virtue cannot live.

 

How then, with all my traditional beliefs and what not, do I view the Republic of Armenia whose adherents I have so few? Well, contrary to common suspicion I do not hate the Republic of Armenia nor hold the present President in any scorn. I have studied the Republic of Armenia very carefully to see how its strange Government could be aligned to the Kingdom of Armenia. Several minor adjustments and my Royal House is in complete union with there attempt at a Government. Certainly, the first adjustment is for the President and its Parliament to understand Us, so they will understand that my goals are not inconsistent with any real perceptions of civilization. I need not approach nor speak to my servants, the Republic of Armenia, for the overall body of this Republic has separated church from Republic sufficiently for my Spiritual Work for Armenia not to be in contradiction to there Government.

 

If anything, the Republic of Armenia is an excellent talisman of transition for the House of Ber. Remember that the Kingdom of Armenia exists whether the Republic of Armenia is defeated by its enemies or not. In fact, if the Republic of Armenia is defeated by Turkey or Iran our Royal House would work in harmony with what was left of the Republic to assure the destruction of any heathen occupation. It is to the Republic of Armenia's credit that they have tried to separate church from Republic for it places the House of Ber in a position where mutual exchange and understanding with both bodies is at last possible. I have written the present President of Armenia several times to inform him of Our Work. Of course, these letters are private and personal, so it may be many years before they are revealed, for historical purposes to the public.

 

It is true, that I completely accept and follow the Book of the Law whose author is Aiwass, the Minister of Hoor-paar-kraat. It has proven to be a true guide toward a true elite Kingdom. This Book holds all the mystical secrets of the Royal House and is completely consistent with the type of human being that lives in most pragmatic sense of word, a true elite. In fact, a Government cannot be defeated by those who accept the Book of the Law, for it is a expression of true religious vigour and a monument to the future of the strength of humanity. How curious is this descendant of King Ber the Bold, you may remark, who has studied everything from Karl Jung to Aleister Crowley and has cleanly returned the Armenian Traditions. Every politician should expand there minds to the literature not only of modern mysticism but extend even further to understand the fundamentals of psychology. Certainly, these two subjects are greatly underestimated by would-be politicians who would forget too easily that such an understanding leads one to much more humane conclusions in the decisions of common law.

 

No doubt, it seems such a disappointment that a country that is the cradle of civilization could of permitted itself the absence of those very traditions and Gods that made Armenian unique and powerful. What has Armenia become? Would thou permit the invaders to give us a weak and stupid religion that makes us sheep rather than mighty lions?

 

I appeal to the good sense of the Armenian people. Stop lying to yourselves about who you are and what your true roots are. Are you going to stand still for this invading religion called Christianity to drain your strength and create the type of citizen that permits genocide without absolute revenge?

 

It not too late to rekindle the old flames and raise the sword of valor for a glorious future. I have given you the ceremonies of our ancient Gods to fire those very flames that Christianity attempted to destroy.

 

Those who are truly attuned the music of our strength can now sing sublime songs to our great culture.

 

Long hast thou dwelt in the darkness. Quit the night and seek the day.

 

Love is the law, love under will

[lovemexico]

(A careful study of this next article by this King shows a dramatic change in style from

much of his previous articles. It was written, it seems to me, to inspire interest in the

return of the spirit of our ancient ancestors. Once again, his words leap out of the page

way in a unique and delightful way. Note the interesting descriptions of the attributes of these

Gods implying much spiritual communication with them on the King's part. I really enjoyed

this piece of writing. Enjoy!! Signed, Harry)

 

 

 

 

The Spirit of Ancient Armenia

 

Written by David Bersson

 

How many still remember the battle of King Haik when he aimed his mighty bow and it whistled forth into Bal. Ah, drink the spirit of that glorious event.

Did not our mighty warriors chant Haik in joy at the slaying of this enemy. Did not the enemy cry in dismay, “the Armenians have won, they have slain our King”.

Oh the joy of that vengeful arrow as it pieced the heathen skin of Bal.

What joy and feasting honored that day, where our King gave a perfect example of what it like to be a race of conquerers emerging victorious against our clumsy enemy.

 

Or how many still relish the times when the Goddess Astghik manifested her lust into the body of the Priestess and the woman screamed with penetrating, carefree delights at the orgy and the wine? Verily, before the times of the dead man's restriction upon the multitudes upon Her worship, the freedom of the embrace was considered holy and sacred, free from shame and guilt. Does it all come back to you now? Let us awaken to the spirit of our ancestors before the shackles of shame were wrapped upon the people of the village. Would thou be like the Muslim would would wrap there females in 400 yards of garment veiling there vices in virtuous words?

Let us dance naked before the statue of Astghik and drink the wine of lust, forever freeing ourselves from such restrictions. Let the sex orgies return and let us learn self-discipline in the face of that ancient demon called jealousy.

 

Let us also remember the awakening of Ar in our Temples who awakened the light of his immortality in our souls, and inspired us to the greater spirit passions of introspection. Let us return to His worship and once again bring the light of the Sun into our souls so that we go forth to war and common deed with clarity and clean spirit. Return to the Temple of Ar and light His four torches in the four quarters, for He awaits His people to enlighten them with the flame of his primal fire.

 

Nor can we forget Tir, our beloved God of Wisdom who will teach us to turn the energy of spiritual aspiration into the complex inspiration of insight. Tir awaits you, as well to place flowers of perfection on His altar for inspiration is infinite and He shall inspire with a new life and a new wisdom.

 

How many still escort the pregnant female of our villages to the Temple of Anahit and give her to the Priestesses within to consecrate the new child as a new child of the Gods? Place, I say, the wreath of flowers on the doorway of the Temple of Anahit and

bless the child in Her name. Let us return to our beloved Anahit whose joy at the birth of our children creates wonder and miracle in the village.

 

Oh, our wondrous God, Vahagan, who strengthens our soul at every manifestation cannot be neglected. He, our God of metal and fire, is the pepper spice upon the roasted rabbit meat that gives us that edge in times of stress and ordeal. Invoke Him when the soul is weary and depressed. and His ancient force makes us resist the most terrifying of times. Hail be to Vahagan who gives us a soul that cannot be penetrated by the demon owls of the night.

 

Let us not the forget the Goddess Vanatur, who conquered the universe by the force of the polite word, and teach our children Her wisdom by giving them the equation of good manners, so that they grow to adulthood pure in their exchange with others and every ready to solve the problems of life by diplomacy and intelligent understanding of all who surround them in life. Verily, invoke Vanatur who will teach the purity of civilized exchange and self-control.

 

Remember, my servants, that every of our Gods represents a school of thought that is completely pragmatic for use in daily life. Let these forces flow through your being as you recite their ceremony, so that you will be uplifted in the strength of their glory.

 

Let no heathen fool tell you that our Gods are devils. They are the very forces of nature that you have brought forth into your being. Be like our Gods, and awaken them, for they are strong and good.

 

Then you shall be as your ancestors were, almighty and upright, glorious and joyful, alive and vigorous, blessed be the Name of Our God throughout the ages.

 

I, prophet of the Gods, your beloved King have spoken, and I have spent my soul into blazing torments that melt and hiss as they lick, I am one hell of a Holy King.

[lovemexico]

(I am copying and pasting the follow e-mail from Hourig Hanryon

informing us of great interest in the essay on King T'drat. I agree

that historians should pay more attention and write of the 300 years

of Pagan Wars in Armenia so terribly neglected up to now.

Also, the e-mail includes the address of a commentary on the bottom

which I have just read with interest. His theory that King T'drat converted

as a consequence of insanity is new to me. The Church tells us King T'drat

converted as a consequence of becoming suddenly sane. Very amusing.

I think any shrink would agree that one doesn't become sane in a day

and his theory holds some water. Nicely put. Signed, Harry.)

 

 

From: "Hourig Hanryon" | This is spam | Add to Address Book

To: lovemexico@yahoo.com

Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003

Subject: Nice to hear from you, Harry

 

 

Dear Harry

Very nice to hear from you again. Yes, the response from the King

T'drat essay was excellent and our King is very busy carefully answering

questions.

 

No, we have never been able to trace any lineage to King T'drat to King

Ber, and I doubt we'll ever find anything. Interesting question.

 

The response to the King T'rat essay has stimulated so much interest

King David has written a short commentary at the bottom.

http://www.castletower.org/trdat.html

 

I have a question for you. How long have you have you been associated

with Bailey and the LIL? How old is this fellow?

 

Let's hope that this essay stimulates some interest with Armenian

historians to cover more carefully the 300 year Pagan Wars, so grossly

neglected up to now.

 

Feel free to copy and paste this e-mail to that message board.

 

One more item. I'm leaving for England and I won't be available to

answer any more of your letters for several weeks. Write me again at that

time.

 

Cordially,

Hourig

[lovemexico]

(I have decided to print the commentary right on the message board for

the convenience of all to observe. I think these observations should be

studied by all those who are interested in this serious transition that

is of sublime interest in Armenian Royalty. Signed, Harry)

 

 

 

 

As for Grigor, all evidence indicates he was a spy for the Church whose

main mission was to convert, observe and report on the progress of the

conversion of the House of T'drat. Grigor had already secretly murdered

King T'drat's father, more than likely as an act of sabotage under the orders

of the Church fathers, and had his eye on King T'drat. The Church fathers had

to have promised him an important position in the Hierarchy of the Church if he

were to somehow convert King T'drat and his royal family.

When King T'drat found out he would not pay homage to the Goddess Anahit,

Grigor was put in a prison pit for 13 years. Now, I think that King T'drat was

too compassionate to Grigor. Grigor was a Church spy and had converted to Christianity, cleverly placing himself into a friendly position in the Court.

Clearly, Grigor was a dangerous spy that should of executed as an example of all traitors. His attempt to place himself in a friendly position in King T'drat's Royal Court must of attracted the attention of King T'drat's sister who eventually convinced

T'drat to release him. Releasing this dangerous spy was the worst decision possible, for he had been in prison for 13 years, and in his hatred and revenge for King

T'drat he was to reconnect himself with his Church fathers and complete his mission to destroy or convert the House of T'drat.

Now Grigor was in an excellent position to put his Church masters into power, for King T'drat's mental state was disturbed enough to go along with any plans that evil

Grigor would conceive.

[lovemexico]

(Here is Anahit, the Goddess of Birth for those who are interested

in Her image.)

 

 

 

 

http://www.castletower.org/images/anahit-faces.jpg

[lovemexico]

(King David of the House of Ber of the Kingdom of Armenia has personally requested

I post this amazing "Oracle of Ar" which he claims is a true spiriual message for Armenians.

I've never read anything like it. What all this means for Armenia I can't say except to be

baffled at the entire affair. Oh well, here it is. Signed, Harry)

---------------------------------------

The Sacred Oracle of Ar given to King David of the House of Ber of

the Kingdom of Armenia

 

 

1.Beware of the Cult of the dead man, for they have eaten of the dung of Aralez

and have poisoned our Nation with weak prayers. Enter not there Temples for

they have no hereafter but Our Judgment.

 

2.We have given you the Golden Hammer of Vahagan. With this Hammer

shalt thou strike three times upon the silver Bell of Astghik calling upon the

multitudes to free themselves of the restrictions that the dead man's word

hath poisoned the embrace of the world. Astghik hath moved the hand of the poet and the maker of music to inspire the nations of the world to return to joy and beauty with the sacred embrace. Long ago, a man who held a cup in his hands saw

Astghik in Her splendour. Verily, his descendant shall be inspired by Tir to move the world to Her eternal flashes of divine light.

 

3.I am alive. I am Ar who speaks these words and the Company of Heaven

clusters to exalt the Throne of the Sun God. The Priesthood of Khem are our

friends and you are the King who shalt arise as a Prophet of the Gods.

 

4.Of the many few are chosen, of the few many are chosen.

 

5. Our Priesthood is established in the supernals, you will manifest it with purity upon the material planes. I command you to return Our Ceremonies to the world.

Let only the secret Visions of the Gods be hidden, for they are personal and do not

apply to every Worshiper. For the Visions cannot be dogmatic, and the winds & storms of Nar are peculiar to the needs of the Priesthood. For the Priestess of Astghik may see Ar as the cruel sun who strikes the heathen without mercy but the warrior will relish in revenge. Mix not the planes nor the schools of thought of the Priesthood lest thou be devoured by the dogs of reason. Verily, the bloody sacrifice is forbidden is the Temple of Astghik.

 

6.Vanatur conquered the universe by the force of the polite word. Teach your children Her equation but do not neglect the wand and the sword.

 

7.The Path toward immortality is to become of us.

 

8.We did not create the universe. We became Gods, once men, and reestablished the

Hallways of Aspiration to meet the Divine Rite of our will. Yet, to manifest Our Work to humanity Our House in Heaven must be identical in symbol to the House on earth. Once again, We command you to adjust the symbol of Our Nation so the House and the Mansion manifest on earth Our Divine Force.

 

9.The Flag of Our Nation is blown proudly by the Winds of Nar. Our Seal manifests the primal energy of the Lion and the Hawk. It is forbidden to use the sheep or the owl in the symbols of Our Nation. Keep the purity of Our Priesthood and the Divine Force shall manifest into thy being.

 

10.Now go forth into the world as Our chosen prophet of the Gods, and King, for Thy lineage is of the House of Ber and I, Ar, am your Guardian in the here and hereafter.

 

11.You will given a way to reach the multitudes, and when you have done what We have Commanded a Priestess will be given you that shalt become your chosen Queen. Blessed be the Nation of Armenia and the Kings who have fought for Our Cult. We shall arise again and the Priestess shall once again chant the words that uplift humanity to the spiritual heights unknown.

 

12. This Oracle is at an end. Strike three times upon the silver bell and

We shall recreate the Universe for you.

 

 

 

(I am giving this Oracle to Armenia and the world to observe and understand.

It has taken a long time for me to follow out these commands to my satisfaction,

An incredible weight has been lifted off my shoulders by going along with that

inner voice who spoke and took directions that surprised and shocked me.

“What's this, I'm supposed to come out in the open with all this?” was my initial reaction. After all, I was brought up to keep the Worship secret, a habit passed down that was evoked purely for survival. My purely human reaction was

overseen, I suppose by the Divine Force invoked by the Holy Task itself.

I give this Oracle to all Armenians to study and observe, and be assured that

being this prophet of the Gods and King is not pleasing to my ego. If anything,

I am endangered my life and position, and found hostility and scorn by coming out in the open. Yet although a part of me grumbles that I have been clumsy and paranoid with all this, another part of me, a higher self, rejoices that I did, after all, obey the Commands of Ar and give Armenia back the Gods that the Cult of the Dead Man took away from them. What will come of all this? I cannot say.

I will state I'm relieved the worst is over and I feel I can now live my own life.

If people go to the Gods, I have given them everything they need. If not, who am I to save these people? I'm much to busy enjoying my life to soil it with any noises of conversion. So you have now this Divine Oracle of Ar, you have the Ceremonies of the Gods and what not, and if you don't feel you need to believe any of this, I certainly can't be troubled by this. “Come unto to me”, is a foolish word. For it is I that go. Sincerely, King David of the House of Ber of the Kingdom of Armenia.)

[lovemexico]

(I just noticed I missed this Call to Vanatur and thought it

might be of interest who are following the information

presented on this message board. Signed, Harry)

 

 

 

 

 

A Call to the Armenian Goddess, Vanatur.

 

 

Hear Me, O my sacred stately Goddess whose communication is pure and honest, let me awaken to an understanding of civilized exchange.

 

Let Thy presence be near, O Vanatur for the moment when strangers approach my courtyard, and send me a sign on how communication shall be invoked.

 

Vanatur, Vanatur, Vanatur, show us the way of unity in the Priesthood of the Gods. Vanatur, Vanatur, Vanatur, show us which stranger shall be sprinkled by the consecrated waters. O Vanatur, let my words flow with grace, and my heart be worthy of the company of elite.

 

Grace and Glory be to Vanatur, and inspire me to teach my children thy sacred equation, the chivalry of spirit in communication that conquers all, with the polite gesture. Hear me, Vanatur, lift up my soul to the pinnacles of civilization, and inspire me with the rapture of good will among the many.

 

Protect me, O Vanatur from the sly lies of false friends, and the cowardice of the professional soldier who would dare not fight.

 

Protect me, O my Goddess Vanatur from the breaker of pacts.

 

Teach me, Teach me, O Vanatur to uplift my House with the spirit of valor and community of spirit in my court.

 

Hear me, Vanatur, let me conquer the universe by the force of the polite word, and achieve order in my House.

 

Blessed be the Holy Name of Vanatur, Queen of the alliance of spirit.

[Harut]

why aren't all this retuals in English and not in Armenian?

[lovemexico]

I don't know Harut, perhaps a smart fellow like yourself should

translate them. I'm a second generation Armenian living in

L.A. and I don't know Granpa's tongue. The Armenian tongue

gets lost in just two generations, perhaps one which is sad.

 

Oh well, I'm sure someone will someday come along and

translate all this.

 

Sincerely,

Harry

[TimeForChange]

Hey lovemexico,

 

I have to admit that I haven`t read all your stuff. I suggest you get back in the real world and hire an Armenian teacher to teach your kids Armenian. If you haven`t got any, too bad.

[lovemexico]

Greetings

I see no point in your response. What possible difference could it make

to you what language my children know?

 

If you haven't read all the "stuff" as you call it how can you profess

to know what my real world is?

 

Anyway, all is going in accordance to the plans of the King.

He's not planning on spreading in any manner you conceive.

Rather, his growth with the commanded Priesthood starts in

English speaking countries first. Perhaps the entire idea is to make

sure the Priesthood is stable before the next phase of the operation.

 

I am, of course, spectualing to a certain extent, since only the King

knows the real plans he has for the future of Armenia.

 

My real purpose, is not to be a spokesman for these royals, but to

present everything to Armenians who will understand what he has

been given. I think the Oracle deserves great understanding and spiritual

insight.

 

Keep in mind, that I exist within my own mansions, and my interest is not

any conversion in any sense.

 

I have studied the Oracle, and what he has presented and see no other

avenues that future Armenians will take. It simply a matter of time before

the Royals are accepted by the true elite that exist within the body of Armenian

citizenship. You cannot alter the changes that have occurred since he was made prophet.

 

I'm no longer surprised by the would be prentenious camp and remarks on this

message board. All this is perfectly normal when a new Government body is promoting

issues that have been overdo for observation.

 

By the way, I writing the Diplomant and the King, and I'll try to present more material

as time goes on.

 

Let me thank all those who have shown compassion and love privately to me, for attempting

to bring deeper understanding to our ancestors will.

 

May the spirit of Vanatur awaken within your souls to clean the spirit of its savage tendencies, and may you one day see the Light that Ar has given to all who would enter His hallways of

Initiation.

 

That will be all for the moment.

 

Cordially,

Harry

[bold+brave]

Hey Harry,

I've just read all this stuff and I'm astounded by how it all

fits together. If this Oracle is real, Armenia will be changed forever.

 

Please do not be depressed by any of the people who are making negative remarks +

stop your posts. A lot of us want to know what's happening. I have

no anger at these Royals. They want the Gods back for Armenia, which

may seem nuts at first glance. I think some careful thought should go

to all this.

 

I'm for anything that improves the welfare and general happiness of

Armenia. These Ceremonies are something what our ancestor did, so

what's the harm? These Gods been around for a long time.

 

I'll collecting these Ceremonies and printing them out. So far I've got

7 of them. I really like the style of the Invocation of Tir and Ar. This is

some well written stuff.

 

Still going on that holiday to Armenia in March? I'm on the West Coast like

you and know the expenses are high. Hope you have a good time with your

wife.

 

Igor

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... I'm on the West Coast like you and know the expenses are high.

What an ODD sort of statement! Is it "code" for something? Like "the eagle is flying" or "the squirrels have collected the nuts in chicago"

 

Welcome to the board Igor ;)

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thanks for welcoming me to this board. Are you saying my English isn't perfect?

LOL.

 

You people sure are hard to please.

 

Oh well, I've nothing to say about my terrible English. But the subject matter

presented is otherwise cool by me. Is there any place on the web which gives

Armenians detailed mythology of the Gods?

 

I tried to do a search engine run on it and couldn't find much at all.

 

See ya,

Igor

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No problem with English as most of us around here are no where close to being English experts (note I said "most" which includes me as well).

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Hmmm, I think I like you. You don't make me so bad, after all. LOL