DominO123 Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 ... No, it is not evidences for an afterlife, I just have choosen that title to attract attention. I will show you why the question is not a human immagination, and as well, the answer is not that easy. Just to start with, I want you to answer a question, and I'd like others to answer it. Since people don't like my long posts, which when you end, you have forgotten what it was saying before(like Sasun told me). I will make those short and keep them simple. OK! Here goes with the question. Do you believe that someone could be transfered into a computer, or in another medium than his brain? I mean, with your conscience, and your 5 senses, your memory, and a virtual body etc... I want a simple answer, but if the answer is no! I want an explaination(a short one) why it is no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Right now? No. Will it maybe be possible in the future? Maybe. Right now, we already have artificial heart, artificial limbs, artificial eye. It will only be a matter of time until we come up with artificial brain. First step will be to communicate with existing brains. I don't think that is too impossible to imagine. What will come next, I have no idea. One thing is for sure though ... current "transistor-based" technologies are waaaay too simple to emulate a human brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Oh and how do I know there is a possibility we can make "artificial brain"? Since brain exists. If something exists, then there is a possibility we can make it (or something like it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Domino, go get a date Dude!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted August 12, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Right now? No. Will it maybe be possible in the future? Maybe. Right now, we already have artificial heart, artificial limbs, artificial eye. It will only be a matter of time until we come up with artificial brain. First step will be to communicate with existing brains. I don't think that is too impossible to imagine. What will come next, I have no idea. One thing is for sure though ... current "transistor-based" technologies are waaaay too simple to emulate a human brain. OK ! I suppose then, that you supposes that it is possible. My point is that, if we believe that everything, our consciencenous, and everything that goes with the "me" is the product of the brain, and there is nothing more than that... we are forced to accept that the "me" can be transfered in another medium, lets say a computer, because there no soul independent from the body. Consciencenous is a process, a kind of vibration of a perfect connection... while matter itself now, from the superstring theory, is believed to be just that, vibration... each particules is a vibration of some "sort." That would make of consciencenous, the vibration, of a vibration. Right? Now, lets forget the last paragraph above for now. If, there is nothing more than a process of matter, to creat consciencenous, than you as the you, are just a possibility over billions and billions of connections. All my point is centered on that. If you are an atheist or an agnostic like me, you are forced to believe that the Universe comes from nothingless, or that it has always existed, I accept one of those two choices as well. If the Universe came from nothingless, you are forced to recognise that it should be infinit numbers of Universe that would just puppop from nothingless like ours did, since nothingless has no limit, than the nonly value you could attach to the numbers of possible existing Universe would be infinit. Now, that would mean, that infinit numbers of Universe have existed, and other infinit will exist for ever, ever and ever, pupop and pupop from nothingless, from the inflationist theory(which is the only that explain how from nothingless there could be something). Now, what are the chances, that an identical Universe as ours has already existed? Sibce there has already been an infinit number, would that not mean 100 %. Now, what is the chances, that the same connections that makes you exist later in another Universe, and that in another medium, but with the same quantum states? Now, after you pass away, billions of years after, that happen, and for sure it will happen, considering that there will be infinity of Universes... what will happen back then? This answer is long, but I tried to write it as clear and as simple as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted August 12, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Domino, go get a date Dude!!! They never are interested with such a discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Domino, did you see my question in the other thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted August 12, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Domino, did you see my question in the other thread? Sasun, I answered to it. There is one thing I forgot to tell, is that in order that the general claim to be true, of every possibilities, you are forced to recognise that there is infinit number of Universes, if you believe in one, than you don't believe that the other Universes could exist, so you accept as the only Universe the one you are living in, and the transition of you from a Universe to another, as just a continuity in the same Universe. This answer is to be added to the one I have wrote on the other thread. Ah and, this thread is meant to suppose that the "soul"does not exist, it is the atheist vision of a possible life after death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted August 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Hmmmmm... I wonder why Seaphan stopped answering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Hmmmmm... I wonder why Seaphan stopped answering. What's the question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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