Yervant1 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 ARMENIAN-CANADIAN CONSERVATIVE ASSOCIATION LAUNCHEDNovember 26, 2014 - 12:39 AMTPanARMENIAN.Net - The Armenian-Canadian Conservative Association(ACCA) was launched last weekend with attendees includingMinister Jason Kenney, Costas Menegakis the federal ParliamentarySecretary, five Members of Parliament, two candidates for thenext parliamentary elections, civil society organizations, ethniccommunity representatives, and various representatives of localArmenian community organizations.After welcoming the guests and ACCA members, master of the ceremoniesand member of the board Diran Tutunjian made a brief introduction ofthe Association's purpose and philosophy.He said: "The Armenian-Canadian Conservative Association is apan-Armenian association established to work with all Canadians tobuild a stronger Canada, and to make sure our values and our goals,such as equality, justice, freedom of speech, thought, and religionare reflected in our relationships with one another."Hon. Kenney, in turn, talked about the current concerns of Canadians,next year's federal elections, economic prosperity, the steadfast standof the government about the challenges Canadians and the civilizedworld face vis-a-vis religious extremism, the fate of Middle Eastminorities, and his admiration of the Canadian-Armenian community.He emphasized that the Canadian-Armenian community and the ConservativeParty many priorities such as strong family values, a firm belief inthe rule of law, in democracy, free enterprise, free speech, tolerance,and humanism. Thus cooperation between both sides to uphold and promotethese cherished values and the traditions is a natural development,said Hon. Kenney. He also praised the Canadian-Armenian community'sstrong work ethic and entrepreneurial spirit. He touched upon thelong history of the Armenian people and its resilience to surviveunder harsh conditions.Hon. Kenney also talked about his recent trip to Armenia, hisimpressions of the country and its people, and his visit to Khor Virabwhere the founder of the Armenian Church, St. Gregory the Illuminator,was imprisoned in the 4th century because of his Christian faith.Finally, Minister Kenney talked about his co-sponsorship of theArmenian Genocide recognition resolution in the House of Commonsin 2004 and Prime Minister Stephen Harper's principled stand andmoral fortitude in making Armenian Genocide recognition Canadiangovernment policy.http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/185211/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 Armenian Canadian Conservative AssociationToronto, OntarioContact: Sevan HajinianEmail: sevan@armenianconservative.caThe Armenian Nation is an idea that transcends bordersDear Friends and Colleagues,I would like to bring to your attention the below YouTube link of the Hon.Jason Kenney's speech at the launch of the Armenian Canadian ConservativeAssociation in Toronto on Nov. 22, 2014.The Canadian-Armenian community is privileged and fortunate to call aprincipled and brave leader such as the Hon. Jason Kenney a friend of ourcommunity.To listen and watch the entire speech, please visit the link belowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX87R1GA28wThe Launch of the Armenian Canadian Conservative Association in Toronto onNov. 22, 2014Published on Dec 20, 2014`The Armenian Nation is not just the four-million people living within theborders of the Republic of Armenia. The Armenian Nation is an idea thattranscends borders. The Armenian Nation is a spirit of tenacity, ofsurvival, of overcoming adversity, of fidelity-- fidelity to your faith andto your ancestors.`To be Armenian throughout history has meant to make a choice. To make achoice to overcome very often waves of persecution and violence anddislocation, but to maintain that fidelity at an incredibly high price.`To be Armenian means never to forget. Not just 1915 but never to forgetthat yours was the first Christian Nation. Never to forget what that meantduring all of those years in Anatolia, in the Middle East, and in theworld-wide Diaspora."Hon. Jason Kenney, Canada's Minister of Employment and Social Developmentand Minister for Multiculturalism, during his keynote speech at the launchof the Armenian Canadian Conservative Association in Toronto on Nov. 22,2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 ARMENIAN CANADIAN CONSERVATIVE ASSOCIATION MEMBERS MEET WITH PRIME MINISTER HARPERMarch 4, 2015Scarborough, ONToday, members of the Armenian Canadian Conservative Association(ACCA) met with Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper shortly afterhe announced upcoming changes to legislation affecting Canada'sjustice system.The Prime Minister was accompanied by the Honorable Peter MacKay,Minister of Justice, and Ms. Roxanne James, the Parliamentary Secretaryto the Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness.Approximately twenty ACCA members were present, led by their ChairVatche Demirdjian and Vice-Chair Sevan Hajinian, who reiterated to thePrime Minister the organization's support for Canada's ConservativeGovernment and its governing principles.After Prime Minister Harper congratulated ACCA members for the foundingof their organization, Ms. Hajinian provided the Prime Minister witha copy of her book, The Armenian Genocide Denied.For further information, media representatives may contact:Armenian Canadian Conservative Associationacca@armenianconservative.ca416-317-8972 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 PRESS RELEASEArmenian Canadian Conservative AssociationToronto, OntarioContact: Sevan HajinianEmail: sevan@armenianconservative.caCanadian-Armenians Exercise Their Democratic RightsToronto - August 5, 2015 - Yesterday, the Honorable Jason Kenney joinedover 50 members and supporters of the Armenian Canadian ConservativeAssociation of Toronto (ACCA) for a successful fundraising reception at theresidence of Mr. and Mrs. Van and Silva Lapoyan.The special reception raised funds in support of the Conservative Party ofCanada's re-election effort and featured a keynote speech by Mr. Kenney, aproven friend of the Armenian community who has been voted the `bestoverall' and `hardest working' MP by Maclean's Magazine annual survey ofparliamentarians. He spoke about the important choice facing Canadians inthis election, highlighted the proven leadership of the Right HonourableStephen Harper, and recognized the important contributions made by Canada'sArmenian community.Federal Conservative candidates John Carmichael (Don Valley West), JoeDaniel (Don Valley North), Costas Menegakis (Aurora - Oak Ridges - RichmondHill), Brad Butt (Mississauga - Streetsville), Peter Kent (Thornhill),Corneliu Chisu (Pickering - Uxbridge) were also there to meet prominentArmenian community members and respond to their questions.Mr. Aris Babikian introduced the Honourable Jason Kenney and thanked theConservative Party of Canada for its strong, principled andconsistent support of the people of Armenia and of the Armenian communityin Canada. He expressed particular gratitude for Canada's Conservativegovernment's recognition of the Armenian Genocide, and for reaffirming thatrecognition this year by way of Motion M-587, which was introduced byConservative MP Brad Butt and supported by the Government. He informed theattends that the evening successfully raised $25,000.Mr. Kenney thanked Mr. and Mrs. Lapoyan for hosting the event and welcomedthe support of the attendees. In thanking the members of Armenian communityfor their support he said: `Our Conservative Party will continue to stand,firmly, on the right side of the history concerning the historical realityof the Armenian Genocide despite all political pressures.'He also reinforced the importance of values: `We want a country wherefreedom of conscience is deeply respected, but where we also share basicvalues, such as a belief in human dignity, equality of opportunity, and therule of law. We want a Canada where we can celebrate our different culturaltraditions, but not at the expense of sharing common Canadian traditions.We want a Canada where we are loyal to Canada's historically groundedvalues. Integration that ensures that new Canadians know, own, and identifywith our country's history, symbols, and institutions.'Mr. Kenney emphasised specifically Canada's record of solidarity with, andsupport for persecuted ethnic and religious minorities of the Middle East -noting that the Conservative Party is the only Party willing to stand up tothe genocidal Daesh (ISIL).Saro Khatchadourian then relayed a message from the Honourable GaryGoodyear, who passed on his greetings and well wishes for a successfulreception.During the evening Mr. Roubik Galstanian, representative of the DefenceMinister of the Republic of Armenia in Europe, who flew from Paris, France,expressed his gratitude to Canada's Conservative government for itssteadfast support of Armenia and Armenian issues.Mr. Vatche Demirdjian, President of the ACCA expressed his appreciation toMr. Kenney and his many colleagues for their presence, which helped makethe evening a great success. He emphasised that their participationtonight was a testament to the Conservative Party of Canada's specialrelationship with the Armenian community, and called on all CanadianArmenians to help re-elect a Conservative government on October 19. Hefurther expressed his gratitude to the host of the evening Mr. and Mrs.Lapoyan and the benefactors of the evening.Contact:Sevan Hajinian, Mrs.416 317 8972Sevan.hajinian@hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 CONFUSION, FRICTION IN TORONTOEditorial, 16 August 2015Late last year a group of Toronto Armenians--led mostly by ArmenianRevolutionary Federation (ARF) members--announced that they planned toestablish a group called the Armenian Canadian Conservative Association(ACCA). The leaders of the putative organization said their aim wasto create an Armenian association to enhance the Canadian Armeniancommunity's bilateral relations with the Conservative Party.They explained that both share common social and economic values. Theaim of the ACCA was also to work with other Canadians to build astronger country, to encourage the participation of the CanadianArmenian community in the political process, to propel CanadianArmenians to run for public office, and finally to encourage Armenianyouth become active and productive members of society. The ACCAinvited all Armenians to join the association.According to the ACCA, initially ARF representatives had a positivereaction to the initiative and expressed no serious concerns. However,a week or so after the incipient association's spokesman had metARF representatives to explain their intentions, the latter said theARF had to study the issue because the idea hadn't matured yet...theARF hadn't given the green light and that it needed more informationabout the process, structure, and control of the association.The ACCA alleged that the Toronto branch of the ARF had rejected theproject because a "handful of people, who control the Toronto ARF,don't want others to get involved in Canadian political activitiesand are afraid of losing their long-time monopolistic control of theToronto Armenian Centre and the ARF." The ACCA also accused the ARFof nepotism. It said that a "family compact" of 50 or so interrelatedfamilies ran everything. Certain ARF members then insinuated thatthe ringleaders of the ACCA had a private agenda and hoped to benefitfrom a cozy relationship with the ruling Conservative Party.Two days before the November inaugural meeting of the ACCA, theToronto ARF issued a circular to its members warning them not toattend the meeting. Members attending would be subject to disciplinaryaction said the email which was sent to 240 people. However, someARF members did attend the meeting which the ACCA described as a"great success." The ACCA says that it now has 100 members.Following the launch of the ACCA, seven ARF members, who had joinedthe new group, were disciplined with two- to four-month "sentences"which banned them from attending/voting at ARF meetings.Since its establishment, the ACCA has had a successful fundraiser($25,000 raised at an August gathering) which was attended by a seniorfederal minister and six members of parliament. The association tookyoung people on a day trip to Parliament Hill in Ottawa to meet MPs.Association leaders have also met Prime Minister Stephen Harper atleast thrice. The ACCA says it could have done more and enrolled moremembers had it not been for the opposition from the ARF.The Canadian ARF's rules, which are based on the traditional ARFrules, say: "A member of the ARF can't belong to a different politicalorganization or secret fraternity (Õ¸O~BÕÕ¿) without the approvalof the regional supreme body" (rule 107).The ACCA says that the rule is rarely, if ever, observed, and addsthat members can be active in other political parties without negativerepercussions. They allege that personal animosity and fear of losing"monopoly control of the ARF" is the impetus for the hostility towardsthe ACCA. The ACCA says the rule applies only to ARF members electedto political positions in an outside party. In such an instance,the politician becomes a non-active member for the duration of hisor her tenure. The ACCA also points to the existence of an ArmenianDemocratic Party and Armenian Republican Party in the U.S. and deniesthat these two organizations are controlled by the ARF.Throughout the conflict, the ARF of Toronto has played it close to thevest. Its print and electronic media have not commented on the issue.The silence has helped infest the controversy with rumor and innuendo.A Keghart.com request to the ARF for its side of the story has goneunanswered. A group which is the strongest and most effective Diasporapolitical group owes Armenian Canadians an explanation regarding itsdecisions in this divisive affair. It should also grab the opportunityto demonstrate that it's a democratic and transparent organizationwhich in not secretly controlled by cabal, as ACCA alleges.In recent years the ARF has been embroiled in damaging internalconflicts in Lebanon, France, Argentina, and Australia, to name a few.The Toronto quarrel is the latest addition to the list.Armenians--whether ARF or non-ARF members--have the right to askwhether there's something rotten in the party which has worked forso long and so diligently to preserve Armenian interests and identity.http://www.keghart.com/Editorial-Friction-Toronto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 CANADIAN PM MEETS SYRIAN ARMENIAN REFUGEESAugust 20, 2015 10:57Yerevan/Mediamax/. During a campaign stop on August 10 at St. Mark'sCoptic Church in Markham, near Toronto, Prime Minister Harper privatelymet a newly-arrived Syrian-Armenian refugee family.Armenian Canadian Conservative Association told Mediamax that the PMhas talked to Syrian Armenian Leon (Levon) Danayan, his wife MaydaMoumjian and children Benjamin and Rachel who moved to Canada inJune 2015.During his meeting with Canada's Prime Minister, Danayan presenteda giant thank-you card to the PM on behalf of some 100 Syrian- andIraqi-Armenian refugees who expressed their "heartfelt gratitude" tothe Prime Minister and "the Canadian government's private sponsorshipprogram."Following the meeting, the PM stated that a re-elected Conservativegovernment will provide a new three-year, USD9-million program tosupport persecuted religious minorities in the Middle East. Harper'splan includes continued assistance to Iraqi and Syrian refugee whocontinue to face religious persecution and genocide.The plan includes a commitment to accept an additional 10,000 refugeesfrom the region over the next four years."Strong democratic societies, such as Canada, respect religiousdiversity. Re-elected government will continue backing freedom ofreligion and defending religious minorities considering it one ofthe cornerstones of Canada's foreign policy", said the PM.- See more at:http://www.mediamax.am/en/news/foreignpolicy/15146/#sthash.kkNr5jgJ.dpuf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted September 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 CANADA'S CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT TO OPEN TRADE AND CONSULAR OFFICE IN YEREVAN09:39, 09 Sep 2015Siranush GhazanchyanA re-elected Conservative government would strengthen ties withArmenia by opening trade and consular office in Yerevan, announcedMinister of National Defense and Multiculturalism Hon. Jason Kenneyat the Armenian Community Centre. Some 150 Armenians in attendancewelcomed the minister's announcement with rousing applause."The pledge to open a trade and consular office demonstratesthe Conservative government's ongoing commitment to strengthencommercial and social ties with Armenia," said Mr. Kenney and added:"Canada-Armenia trade is increasing rapidly and this new office willhelp spur even more growth. That's good news for the economies ofboth of our countries."The minister pointed: "This past year, under the Harper ConservativeGovernment, trade between Canada and Armenia totaled nearly $120million, a 1,700 percent increase compared to 2005. Canadian importsfrom Armenia have tripled and Canadian exports to Armenia haveincreased 6,000 percent since 2005. A new trade office would furtherCanada's growing trade ties with Armenia by supporting Canadiancompanies doing business in Armenia, supporting export development,providing and enhancing economic relations between both countries."Mr. Kenney also touched upon the plight of Syrian Armenian andother religious minorities who are being persecuted and face ethniccleansing at the hands of ISIS terrorists. He mentioned that in thelast five years the Canadian Government, under the leadership of PrimeMinister Harper, resettled over 25,000 Syrian and Iraqi refugees. Hesaid that Canada is not trying to empty Christians from the MiddleEast and Mesopotamia but would try to help people who have fled theregion by providing a safe haven for them in Canada.At the end of the gathering Mr. Kenney met 50 newly-arrived Syrian-and Iraqi- Armenian refugees. The refugees were settled in Canadathrough the Government's generous private refugee sponsorship program.Vatche Demirdjian, president of Armenian Canadian ConservativeAssociation, said he highly valued and appreciated the ConservativeParty initiative in establishing a trade and consular office inYerevan. "This is a dream come true for the Canadian-Armeniancommunity. We have waited for a long time for this positive decision.The Conservative Party, Prime Minister Harper, Minister Kenney and theCanadian Armenian community should be proud of this announcement," hesaid. He congratulated the Canadian-Armenian community for "this greatsuccess." Demirdjian added: "So many of our community organizations,including the ACCA, have worked diligently to make this day become areality." He then appealed to Canadian-Armenians to return the favorto the Conservative Party and its candidates by voting and helpingparty candidates.http://www.armradio.am/en/2015/09/09/canadas-conservative-government-to-open-trade-and-consular-office-in-yereva/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 While Harper goes national, Kenney goes localLondon Community News, Ontario, CanadaOct 14 2015TORONTO -- Largely away from the spotlight of Stephen Harper's nationalcampaign, Jason Kenney is running another one.While Harper is focused on turning Canadians off the Liberals'economic policies, Kenney is going after something else -- the powerof the Justin Trudeau brand.And he's doing it not in the warehouses or plants where Harper holdshis events, but in banquet halls, along buffet lines and on stagewith Bollywood stars as part of the ongoing Conservative effort tocapture and retain the so-called ethnic vote.Some of Kenney's appearances are directly tied to the election, likeroundtables with the ethnic press or work alongside local candidatesfrom coast to coast. Others are more in line with his long-standingapproach to increasing support for the Tories among new Canadiancommunities -- half the battle is just showing up.A look at his social media feeds provides a snapshot -- a TaiwaneseOpera festival in Surrey, B.C., an India Canada Association ofSaskatchewan supper night in Regina, a Filipino dance group performancein Hamilton, Ont.Twice in the last week, Kenney has appeared alongside Indian popstar Mika Singh at the artist's appearances in Toronto and Vancouver,and taken the stage to raucous applause and singing a few verses ofa hit pop song.His connections to the South Asian community have even inspired aBollywood-style Conservative campaign song, likely to be blastedover the loudspeakers at Harper's campaign event in Brampton, Ont.,later Wednesday.In an interview after an appearance with Harper at Chinese Mid-AutumnFestival celebrations in Richmond Hill, Ont., in September -- wherea massive poster of Kenney's face greeted event goers at the door --his voice was hoarse, bags under his eyes.He's been going non-stop since the campaign began, he said, becausedespite all the inroads the Conservatives have made, demographics andshifting immigration patterns provide new opportunities for outreach."We're not going to retain every vote we have in the last electionbut I think we're doing very well," he said.He's doing more, however, than just showing up.Kenney has made several campaign promises in recent weeks that appearnowhere in the official Conservative campaign platform.To the Sri Lankans, Kenney promised a promise to expand Canada'shigh commission to the city of Jaffna, a provincial capital in thatcountry whose population is mostly Tamil. The Tamil diaspora in Canadais among the largest in the world.To Iranians, Kenney promised to make it easier for them to accessconsular services from Ottawa, as opposed to having to travel toWashington, D.C. Canada expelled Iranian diplomats from Ottawa in2012, leaving the Iranian diaspora without access to services likepassports or other government documents.To the Armenian community, a pledge to opening trade and consularoffice in Yerevan, the country's capital.Armenian Canadians should "return the favour to the Conservativeparty and its candidates by voting and helping party candidates,"the head of the Armenian Canadian Conservative Association reportedlysaid, according to a post about the announcement on the HyeForum,an Armenian community website.While not speaking specifically about those promises, Kenney saidthe Conservatives have their eye on getting diaspora communities moreinvolved in foreign policy."Think tanks, foreign policy commentators say that Canada's diversityis in principle a great strength for foreign and economic ties aroundthe world and we have never really done that in a systematic way,"he said."So we've been trying to develop ways to more formally engage thelarge diaspora communities who are new Canadians to deepen ties withcountries of origin."The Conservatives have come under considerable fire, however, forhow closely they appear to link foreign policy to diaspora politics.Since 2006, under the Conservatives, 1.6 million people became Canadiancitizens, Kenney pointed out."There are new communities that have developed in large part sinceour government came to office and so that's an advantage we did nothave in the past."Those Canadians are looking for change just like everyone else, saidLiberal John McCallum, and they are not responding well to what hecalls the Conservatives' divisive -- and often entirely misleading-- approach.A recent set of ads appearing in the Chinese and Punjabi press askedreaders whether Trudeau's values -- described as being about puttingbrothels in communities, allowing marijuana to be sold in cornerstores and allowing drug injection sites in local neighbourhoods --none of those things are in the Liberal platform, McCallum said."It's wrong, on principle, and it's a sign of desperation."By Stephanie Levitz, The Canadian Presshttp://www.londoncommunitynews.com/news-story/5959431-while-harper-goes-national-kenney-goes-local/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yervant1 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 "SUCCESSFUL YEAR": ARM. CANADIAN CONSERVATIVE ASSOCIATIONStaff, March 2016With a successful year under its belt, the Armenian CanadianConservative Association (ACCA) held its first general annual meetingin Toronto on March 10 to celebrate its maiden year, elect a newboard and plan its next 12 months."I am pleased to say that within the brief time of its existencethe ACCA has made many inroads and achieved great success," saidthe Chairman Vatche Demirdjian. "Our politician friends and variouscommunity organizations have highly praised the association's uniqueand creative plans. We are confident that with your support we willbe able to break new ground to further advance the cause of ourassociation with the Conservative Party of Canada and the Armeniancommunity," he added.Demirdjian said that a paramount goal of the association is to attractyoung people so that they may become active in politics and productivemembers of Canadian civil society.In its mission statement the ACCA has deplored the local politicalsituation before its founding when the Armenian political arena hadbeen "monopolized by a handful of individuals."The core mission of the ACCA is to support family values and promotefiscal responsibility in addition to advancing Armenian interests.According to an ACCA new release, since its inception in Nov. 2014,it has increased its membership by nearly 35%.In the past year the Toronto-based political association has attendedat least three gatherings where the prime minister of Canada mademajor policy statements. During last October's federal electionsthe ACCA assisted 17 Conservative Party candidates, including suchpolitical heavyweights as MPs Peter Kent, Harold Albrecht, and BradButt. And in the weeks leading to the federal elections, the ACCAorganized two fundraisers which netted $35,000. Minister of NationalDefense Jason Kenny was a keynote speaker at one of the fundraisers.In the past six months ACCA members have also helped Syrian-Armenianrefugees settle in Toronto. Members have located accommodation for thenewcomers and provided them with access to free furniture, employmentadvice and information about various federal and provincial services.Looking forward, the association sees a busy 18 months as theConservative Party of Canada prepares to elect a new leader. Theassociation will also participate in the campaign to elect OfficialOpposition leader Patrick Brown as premier of Ontario.The general annual meeting was attended by Cozette Giannini, adviser tothe office of the opposition leader. She extended Mr. Brown's greetingsand well-wishes to the association. The meeting was also attended byformer MP Joe Daniel, Majed el Shafie, founder and president of OneFree World International, and other political dignitaries.The speakers praised the association's contributions and the value theyhave brought to enrich Toronto, the Armenian community's politicalactivities and the humanitarian contribution to the resettlement ofSyrian-Armenian refugees.Elected--by acclamation--to the board were Salpy Azadian, RazmigHairabedian, Meghri Hajinian, Sevan Hajinian, Arbi Haroutunian, PatilImasdounian, Vartan Kasbarian, Saro Khachadourian, and Mike Shahinian.Outgoing vice-chair Sevan Hajinian acted as master of ceremonies ofthe meeting.Following the meeting, a reception was held to celebrate a successfulyear and to welcome Armenians from Syria to Toronto.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.keghart.com_Keghart-2DACCA-2DReport-2D2016&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=QU84QvLC_z_ccsbOGwl66tWF7xWDiSHExPdmzFSe6IQ&s=57h1MmSvXOninGsSvFrEPaA7jUxSPkFmlEy1qyN9Nzc&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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