Yervant1 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) The appointment of an Armenian as a chief adviser to Davutoglu seems like a double edged sword. I'm more inclined to believe that he will be used by the president. 13:49 25/10/2014 » TOPIC OF THE DAYArmenian journalist appointed chief advisor to Turkish Prime MinisterTurkish-Armenian journalist and writer Etyen Mahcupyan will serve as a chief advisor to Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu.Davutoglu offered the post to Mahcupyan last week, on the sidelines of a meeting of the intellectuals’ council. Mahcupyan accepted the offer, according to Sabah daily.Davutoglu stressed that Etyen Mahcupyan made an important contribution to Turkey’s democratization and the formation of civil society.It is noted that Mahcupyan will deal with the settlement of the Armenian issues.He headed Agos weekly for some time after Hrant Dink’s assassination, and gained wide public recognition. Source: Panorama.am Edited October 26, 2014 by Yervant1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onjig Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 I would think this is a way of gathering information for Orcish reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted October 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 ETYEN MAHcUPYAN'S APPOINTMENT NOT TO IMPROVE TURKEY'S POLICY TOWARD ARMENIA - EXPERT21:19 â~@¢ 28.10.14The appointment of Etyen Mahcupyan, former chief editor of the Agosnewspaper, as Senior Advisor to Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutogluwill not have any impact on Turkey's policy toward Armenia, expertin Turkic studies Hakob Chakryan told Tert.am."They adopted this policy back in 1991, and they are following it now.Five or six presidents have changed in Turkey since them, as well asgovernments, but the policy remains the same. So it would be wrongto hope for Turkey's better attitude to Armenia because he [EtyenMahcupyan] is an Armenian," the expert said.As to what is Turkey's real aim, he said:"The aim is to improve its international image. The European Uniondemands that Turkey respect ethnic and religious groups, includingnational minorities' rights. It is Turkey's step in an attempt tomeet the EU's demands and improve its rating."http://www.tert.am/en/news/2014/10/28/armenia-mahchupyan/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted November 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 MAHCHUPYAN'S APPOINTMENT: A NEW STEP IN GENOCIDE DENIAL POLICY?November 4, 2014BY ALINE OZINIAN>From CivilNetTurkish Sabah newspaper, which has come to be considered in recentyears as the mouthpiece of the ruling Justice and Development Party,announced the appointment of Etienne Mahchupyan as Chief Advisor toTurkey's Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu on October 25. Sabah "adorned"the news of the appointment with the fact that after Erdogan's"constructive" April 24 message this was yet another important step,this time taken by Davutoglu, toward the "normalization" of relationsbetween Turkey and Armenia (the term used in Armenia-Turkey protocols),by appointing an Armenian as his Chief Advisor.This appointment was regarded in Turkish press as an important stepwhich would assist Davutoglu in his policy on minorities and theimprovement of Turkey-Armenia relations. At the same time, Mahcupyandenies the Armenian-Turkish orientation of his appointment, giving awider role to his activities. Mahcupyan said that it was a compellingproposal which he gladly accepted. In the meantime, Turkish media isemphasizing his Armenian roots, underscoring that the AKP managedto bring even an Armenian to the position of chief advisor to thePrime Minister.Who is Etienne Mahchupyan?Mahchupyan's acquaintance with Davutoglu has an old, intellectualpast. They met when Davutoglu was a scholar, and those meetingscontinued even after Davutoglu became Minister of Foreign Affairs.Mahchupyan was part of the "Council of Wise Men" which was createdby the government to find a solution to the Kurdish question.After graduating from Turkey's prestigious Bogazici and Ankarauniversities, Mahchupyan also lectured at those universities. He wasengaged in his own business until 1996 and worked as consultant forother companies. In 1996 he ended his entrepreneurial life and madethe foray into politics, writing columns mainly in the democraticand left democratic-oriented media.Mahcupyan is also the author of numerous scientific papers, monographsand books mainly about the issues of Turkey's democratization andWestern orientation, liberal democracy, army-state relations, religionand democratization, Turkish-Kurdish relations and so on.Since 2001, Mahcupyan worked for the Gulenist Islamic-conservativedaily Zaman, putting forward the idea that the Islamists have thegreatest potential for the creation of a new Turkey.Mahcupyan was also one of Hrant Dink's best friends. In addition tobeing political comrades, they also spent their free time togethertravelling, making bets at the racetrack and passionately discussinganything related to football. Their possible nomination as AKP deputieswas even discussed at the time.Mahchupyan, who had frequently been writing for Agos, assumed thepost of Editor-in-Chief following Hrant's murder.Mahchupyan as AKP defender In 2010, resigning as Editor-in-Chief ofAgos, Mahchupyan went to work again in Zaman. In the early years ofAKP in power, some Democrats and Liberals, not sharing the party'sconservative and Islamic position, continued to support the party'spolicies. Mahcupyan who was considered an intellectual with leftDemocratic views, was among them.The party's slow and reluctant steps towards Turkey's democratization,which included finding a resolution to the Turkish-Kurdish conflict,caused the above mentioned political forces to stop supporting thegovernment. Immediately afterward, followers of the Gulen movementalso pulled back from pro-government positions.But working for the Gulenist newspaper, Mahchupyan sided with Erdoganand defended the AKP position during the Gulen-Erdogan conflict ofabout a year ago. This surprised the readers of the scholar, who washighly regarded by the Gulenists.As an appreciation of his new political views, he received aninvitation to collaborate from Aksam, the most pro-governmentnewspaper, which he accepted.Recently, Mahcupyan even defended Erdogan during the "Sorry, I've evenbeen called an Armenian" crisis. Shortly after that, in an interviewMahchupyan linked Erdogan's conduct to his father's. No matter howstrongly Mahchupyan's sharp turn and unconditional welcoming of allAKP steps were criticized by the Armenian community and Democraticcircles, he kept insisting, that the AKP was a chance to destroyKemalism and militarism and to create a "New Turkey" where Armeniansshould also be actively involved.Mahchupyan's appointment as a new step in Genocide denial policy Todaythe appointment of an Armenian to the position of Chief Advisor tothe Prime Minister is important indeed, regardless of whether thatArmenian considers himself an Armenian or not, whether he emphasizeshis ethnicity or Turkish citizenship, whether he highlights the honestcoverage and acceptance of historical issues of ethnic background orTurkey's democratization, or their coherence. It is hard to expectthat even such a talented intellectual as Mahchupyan will be prudentenough to avoid becoming an instrument in Turkey's anti-Armenian policyand will resign from the "high-ranking" position of Chief Advisor.Although Mahchupyan stressed that the offer of Chief Advisor did notclarify the possible areas of activity, it is obvious for everyonethat Turkey took this step on the threshold of 100th anniversaryof the Armenian Genocide in order to demonstrate to the world itsgenerosity and lack of problems with the Armenians. But AKP's trickfor the international community is not even perceived inside Turkeyby its own electorate and the supporters of those parties who portraythemselves to be democratic, who consider bestowing a high-rankingoffice to an Armenian as treason.It is possible that the government will explain Mahchupyan'sappointment to their supporters by the numerous examples of Armeniansholding high-ranking offices in the Ottoman Empire. This traditionwas continued by the Young Turks, a factor, which did not hinder themfrom implementing the Armenian Genocide.What we are witnessing is neither a development nor an attempt atdialogue, but rather the next step in a pointless diplomatic gamewith the Armenians, in which Armenia is unfortunately involved.The invitation to participate in the commemorations of the 100thanniversary of the Armenian Genocide issued personally to Erdogan andresembling a wedding invitation was presented by the Armenian side asthe next "brilliant" diplomatic solution, followed by trivial "proudand victorious" statement: "The ball is in the opponent's field."However, it is time to realize that the point of the game is notconstantly sending the ball to the opponent's field but scoring a goal.The same logic implies that the Armenian blow has ricocheted.Mahchupyan's appointment is one of the more important steps takenby Turkey as it prepares for the 100th anniversary of the ArmenianGenocide. Another blow, which can't be discounted in the nearfuture, might be the candidacy of Armenian Margar Esayan as Memberof Parliament.http://www.horizonweekly.ca/news/details/52179 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted November 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 ETIENNE MAHCHUPIAN SEEMS TO BE FAR FROM ARMENIANS' GRIEVES - OPINIONS11:26 * 05.11.14The recent statements made by Etienne Mahchupian, the newly-appointedsenior advisor to Turkey's prime minister, demonstrate that he isestranged from the common problems and grieves shared by the Armeniansworldwide, says an Armenian orientalist."The statements he has made since becoming a senior advisor to theTurkish premier, as well as the other statements made before giverise to many questions. He announced, for example, that Armenianand Diaspora are in conflicts over the recognition and the 100thanniversary of Genocide. This is definitely wrong, as being anArmenian, he is obliged to know that this is the kind of problem overwhich the Armenians cannot be split. And the same was later repeatedby the country's president, [Recep Tayyip] Erdogan," Ruben Safrastyan,Director of the National Academy's Institute of Oriental Studies,told Tert.am.Citing Ermenihaber.am, a Turkish-language news website covering thedevelopments in Armenia, the Armenian service of RFE/RL (Azatutyun)reported Mahchupian as saying recently that visiting Armenia on April24, 2015 is a gesture which requires numerous other new gestures. "Ifthose gestures are made, the situation may mature, and the presidentmay go to Armenia. But if we are realistic, I don't find it possible.As Armenia is expected to demonstrate an unusually tough stance in2015, Turkey will not make that gesture," he was quoted as saying.Mahchupian's approaches give ground to think that he is on the wrongtrack, Safrastyan said, addressing his remark. "Erdogan's [decision]whether or not to come to Armenia has nothing to do with Armenia'sposition. If he comes, he will do so to raise his country's honor alittle bit; that's not for Armenia," he noted.Turkologist Vahram Ter-Matevosyan had earlier told Tert.am thathe doesn't expect either positive or negative developments fromMahchupian's appointment. He warned against attempts of searchingfor hidden conspiracies behind the move or, on the contrary, gettingvery enthusiastic.Commenting on Mahchupian's recent statements, the expert said heknows that the Turkish political system would never allow someonewith pro-Armenian positions to be appointed to a senior discretionarygovernment post."That man's activities will be pro-Turkish, first of all; all the restis a matter of comment. He cannot do anything beyond that framework;he was appointed there for specific political activities. And hisactivities do not have to have anything in common with the Armenianfactor. Hence it is better to avoid great expectations not tobe disappointed later. This is a process which we must use as anopportunity," he added.As for Erdogan's possible visit to Armenia, the expert agreed thatit isn't reasonable to jump conclusions months before the Genocidecentennial. "Armenia adopted the tough rhetoric in 2010, so there'snothing new about it. And however tough Armenia's rhetoric, Turkeyis to blame for it. As to whether or not the viewpoint expressed isrealistic, I can add several factors to that, including the fact thatTurkey will be on the threshold of elections. So if there is a will,everything else is of secondary importance," he added.http://www.tert.am/en/news/2014/11/05/Armenia-sarfrastyan-comment/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Is Mahjoobian a fitting surname for him? To see what it means we will go here; Hijab http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=11844&page=1&&do=findComment&comment=176789 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Armenians were loyal millet (citizen) before, they are still loyal millet today! Mr. Mahcupyan is saying nothing personal, it's just a job. ADVISOR TO TURKEY'S PRIME MINISTER DOES NOT THINK ERDOGAN WILL VISIT ARMENIA ON 24 APRIL 2015by Marianna MkrtchyanARMINFOWednesday, November 5, 11:52One should not expect any progress in the Armenian-Turkish relationsin 2015, Etienne Mahcupyan, Advisor to Turkey's Prime Minister,says in an interview to Ermenihaber.He says that the bilateral relations may normalize after 2015only. He thinks that the tension will decline in 2016. When the eventsdedicated to the 100th anniversary are over, efforts will be directedtowards mutual understanding and this will have an impact on thepolicy as well. He says that the contacts between the two countries'societies are being enhanced and more and more new projects are beingimplemented. Ordinary citizens of Armenia are becoming more tolerant toTurks and the same is observed in Turkey. "But normalization cannothappen at once, because there is a Karabakh problem and there isAzeri oil. All these factors hinder the process", says Mahcupyan.When commenting on the possibility of Turkish President RecepErdogan's visit to Armenia on 24 April 2015, Mahcupyan points outthat Erdogan's possible visit to Armenia "is an important gesture,which demands numerous other gestures"."If these gestures are made, the situation may change and the Presidentmay visit Armenia", he says. Nevertheless, Mahcupyan adds that hedoes not consider Erdogan's visit realistic because in 2015 Armeniawill display rigidity in the matter of Armenian Cause.As regards the Armenian-Turkish relations, Mahcupyan says that thisissue is not a priority for official Ankara. "If we rank Turkey'stasks by their priority, the Armenian issue will be somewhere in themiddle of the rating", he says. Mahcupyan stresses that notwithstandinghis Armenian origin, he will not lobby this issue but will act as aTurkish official. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted November 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 TURKEY CREATING AN ILLUSION OF POSITIVE CHANGES AHEAD OF ARMENIAN GENOCIDE CENTENNIAL15:21, 10 Nov 2014Karen GhazaryanPublic Radio of ArmeniaTurkey is actively pretending to be changing and is taking illusionarysteps in preparation for the Armenian Genocide centennial in 2015,expert of Turkish studies Gevorg Petrosyan told reporters today.According to him, Armenian Etyen Mahcupyan's appointment as Adviserto the Turkish PM also fits into this framework."I think those are superficial steps and there have been no changeson a deeper level. The purpose is to create an illusion of positivechanges in Turkey ahead of 2015," the expert said.It's obvious that Turkey is doing everything possible to reach thetarget, and is even resorting to falsifications and disseminationof misinformation towards this end. An evidence of this was CharlesAznavour's imaginary interview to the Turkish press. This is anobvious demonstration of the Turkish propaganda ahead of 2015."This was a propaganda step, a manipulation attempt, a misinformationthat contained certain messages peculiar of the modern Turkishauthorities. Through such an "interview" Turkey tries to manipulate itsown society and create a positive image of Turkey on the internationalarena, and it partly succeeds in doing so," Petrosyan said.The refutation of this "interview" reached us, but didn't reach theworld, at large. This way of action is no news to us, and Turkey willcontinue to take similar steps in the future, he added.As for the anti-Armenian statements of Turkish officials, the expertsaid those are meant for domestic use to win votes.Referring to reinforcement of the Republicans' positions at the USCongress, Gevorg Petrosyan said "this weakens the Armenian lobby,as the number of pro-Armenian Congressmen decreases."The expert added that what Armenians need ahead of 2015 is legalaction, not just recognition, as the latter does not imply eliminationof genocide consequences or reparation."We should concentrate our efforts on solving the issue on thelegal level. I think spending our resources, time and attention oninternational recognition is not correct," he said.http://www.armradio.am/en/2014/11/10/turkey-creating-an-illusion-of-positive-changes-ahead-of-armenian-genocide-centennial/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 PRIME MINISTER'S ARMENIAN ADVISORDaily Sabah, TurkeyNov 12 2014Etyen Mahcupyan 12 November 2014, WednesdayA common view is shared among the Armenian diaspora and theintellectuals of the Armenian community nowadays: "It is a tacticalmove for Turkey's prime minister to appoint an Armenian as his chiefadvisor with the 100th anniversary of the 1915 incidents approaching.Moreover, it is obviously a move for the denial of the Armeniangenocide." Like many other aggrieved minority communities, a vastmajority of Armenians feel assured that the world revolves aroundtheir own issues. This view is also common among the Kurds. Theythink all the initiatives of the government are directly related tothem, regardless of what the government does. And they interpret thegovernment's actions accordingly. Consequently, Davutoglu's assigningof me as the chief advisor has drawn the attention of many Armeniansto my Armenian identity. What really matters for them is not theadvisor's political tendencies, but the fact that an Armenian wasappointed. One is naturally obliged to ask this question when lookingfrom this perspective: Why did the prime minister choose an Armenian?Then you have to answer it as part of the definitions of Armenianidentity. In this way, you inevitably make a remark that manipulatesArmenian identity. And most of the Armenian intellectuals in Turkeyare desperately wallowing around this vicious circle. As soon as youdefine the others based on what you have been subjected to, you canassume that all the deeds of the others are done for or against you.Giving prominence to the identity of an Armenian advisor also hasanother interesting outcome: If this advisor was really chosen for hisArmenian identity, then he is supposed to act like an Armenian and hisdeeds will be evaluated from a criteria that accords with his Armenianidentity. Those with this perspective are not even aware that they havea somewhat racist perspective since expecting me to unconditionallyact like an Armenian is not, in principle, different from a negativeimplementation conducted against me since I am Armenian.The fact is, one does not become more or less Armenian just becausehe is appointed as the chief advisor. Moreover, when my case isconsidered, it cannot be said that you are against a proper Armenian.In this case, we are talking about a man who has never consideredhimself as part of the community in social terms, and a man who hasnever stood out as an Armenian, with his identity defining him. Thematter comprises of contributing to the creation of a shared wisdomand influencing the government that, as much as possible, is workingamong a major reform process and is in a tangle of serious issuesthat are waiting to be resolved.Being an Armenian only refers to a trivial sphere within the overallmission. If we attempt to list the issues Turkey needs to resolve, theArmenian "issue" or "genocide" is only in the middle of the list. Andmy duty as chief advisor is giving advice to promote democratizationwhile paying the required amount of attention to each subject.Expecting me to pay more attention to that issue than it reallydeserves in terms of the current and future conditions of Turkeymight lead to disappointments.In the meeting where Davutoglu offered me this position, the word"Armenian" was not mentioned once and the prime minister did notimply that he would charge me with a specific duty. On the contrary,he focused on the general picture and needs of Turkey. For some,it might be hard to accept but this is the reality: There are manypeople in Turkey who are not trapped within their ethnic or religiousidentities and sometimes life can bring some of them together.http://www.dailysabah.com/columns/etyen-mahcupyan/2014/11/12/prime-ministers-armenian-advisor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted December 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Turkey PM is demanded to sack Armenian chief adviser00:04, 05.12.2014The recent statements by Etyen Mahcupyan, the Istanbul-Armenianjournalist and writer who was recently appointed as the Senior Advisorto the Prime Minister of Turkey, have caused discontent among the MPsof the country's ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP).The Office of the President of Turkey and the AKP deputies haveexpressed complaints to PM Ahmet Davutoglu and demanded that he sackMahcupyan, reported Sozcu daily of Turkey.The ruling party MPs were very concerned by the PM senior advisor'sstatements, according to which the people believe that AKP memberswere involved in the 2013 corruption scandal in Turkey.On December 17, 2013, simultaneous operations were conducted inseveral locations in Turkey, and it came to be called the GrandBribery Operation. AKP ministers' sons, businessmen, and officialswere detained during the operation and, subsequently, many of themwere arrested.Armenia News - NEWS.am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 WHY DAVUTOGLU'S ARMENIAN ADVISER ANGERED AKP DEPUTIESAl-MonitorDec 9 2014Author: Mustafa AkyolPosted December 8, 2014On Oct. 25, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu appointed anunexpected name as his "top adviser" in political matters: EtyenMahcupyan, a prominent public intellectual of Armenian descent.This was widely seen as a wise decision, because Mahcupyan, with hisnewspaper column and regular TV appearances, has been one of themost sophisticated defenders of the Justice and Development (AKP)government in the midst of many crude attempts. The inclusion of anArmenian voice in the top echelons of the Turkish government was alsoseen as a prudent decision on the eve of the centennial of the ethniccleansing of Armenians from Anatolia in 1915.Etyen Mahcupyan is one of the renowned "secular liberals" who supportedthe AKP government against the secular Kemalist establishment in thefirst decade of this century. (He always refused the term "liberal,"though, and declared himself a "democrat.") Many of those liberalsgradually became disappointed with what they saw as the AKP'sauthoritarian turn, and increasingly turned into critics, if notoutright opponents, in the last few years. However, Mahcupyan kept hissupport for the AKP solid. During the confrontation between the AKPand the Gulen movement, which was the definitive matter throughout2014, Mahcupyan solidly supported the AKP, despite the fact thathe was then a columnist for Zaman, the flagship paper of the Gulenmovement. No wonder he resigned from Zaman in June and moved on toAksam, one of the several pro-AKP newspapers.However, the very sophistication of Mahcupyan soon proved a bit toomuch for some AKP folks. Mahcupyan appeared on a TV show on CNNTurkNov. 25, and answered some tough questions about the government. Whenasked about corruption, he replied: "Corruption is not totallybaloney."He added: "But when [pro-AKP] people put this [corruption] onone side of the scale and what happened on Dec. 17-25 [corruptioninvestigations] on the other side, the latter proved more dangerousand corruption became mundane. They [pro-AKP people] did not wantto risk a coup for the sake of going after corruption. Quite thecontrary, they accepted living with corruption for a while toavert the coup threat. There were two evils and they had to choosethe lesser one. They made a rational choice, and it was clear thatthey would make this choice. Turkey is going through a very serioustransformation. It is not willing to risk what it has gained in thepast decade with one stroke."To some, this sounded like a realistic defense of the AKP position.However, to some AKP members, it sounded too realistic. Two deputiesfrom Ankara, Zelkif Kazdal and Fatih Sahin, wrote angry tweets againstMahcupyan. "No one has the right to cast any suspicions on the AKP andAKP governments," Kazdal said. Another AKP deputy, Mehmet Metiner, whois also a frequent media face for the party, also warned Mahcupyan,asking, "What logic does he serve?" Everybody, Metiner, argued, hadto "talk according to the requirements of their office." In return,Mahcupyan wrote a note to Metiner in his column in Aksam, implyingthat he will not "distort facts to comply with the official position."Metiner responded with fury, telling Mahcupyan to be "wise."In all this tit for tat, Mahcupyan deserves respect for not "distortingfacts," and openly acknowledging that Turkey's ruling party has abig problem with corruption. If he keeps on being this frank, he willprobably get more reaction from the more propagandist voices of theAKP, but also perhaps make a contribution to Turkey's shamelesslyMachiavellian political culture.However, I believe that Mahcupyan is also contributing to the sameMachiavellian culture on a different level: By arguing that "law"is not a value that transcends politics, and thus easily disregardinglaw for the sake of supporting the "correct" political project.This led Mahcupyan to two gross mistakes over the years. The first washis rigorous support for the "coup cases" against the military and itssecularist allies between 2008 and 2012. The so-called Ergenekon, or"Sledgehammer," cases put hundreds of officers along with dozens ofacademics and journalists in jail. More objective observers warnedthat these cases were turning into "witch hunts," but some Turkish"democrats," including Mahcupyan, insisted that they were alljustified, and had to go on "until the end."Their fundamental error was to care more about the political resultsof these "coup cases" rather than their legal contents. ("Thesecases are needed to save Turkey from military rule," they kepttelling us, disregarding the fact that some of the "evidence"looked too overblown.) Their belief in a political project (called"democratization") made them disregard the universal criteria of law,such as the presumption of innocence and the benefit of the doubt.Then, in the second round of the same drama, came the corruptioninvestigations of Dec. 17-25, 2013. For figures such as Mahcupyan,again, the key matter was not the legal content of the cases, buttheir probable political results. The investigations could have ledto the resignation of some AKP executives and led to a decline inthe party's votes. This, they said, amounts to a "coup," and thusthey supported the blocking of the cases by the government.In fact, Mahcupyan is aware of the meaning of his stances on thesematters, and that is probably why he wrote several articles arguingthat there is no such thing as "universal law." "Law does not havethe supra-political or nonpolitical role that is ascribed to it," heclaimed in one his recent pieces, targeting one of the assumptions of"liberal democracy." He also reminded that societies "turn their facesfrom law to politics in eras of critical transformation." Elsewhere,he defined Turkey's current "critical transformation" as a "people'srevolution." The underlying lesson was that we had to put politicsabove law, especially in such glorious moments.No one can say such arguments by Mahcupyan are dishonest or shallow.But I find them erroneous and dangerous, because they help justifythe hegemony of politics over values that I indeed consider as"supra-political" such as human rights, rules of justice and freedom.History teaches us that "revolutions" that disregard these values"temporarily," supposedly for the sake of a better future, endup rather creating a "permanent revolution." In the meantime, the"revolutionary" political power, unrestrained by any higher law, endsup creating a Leviathan that recognizes no rights other than its own.http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/12/turkey-davutoglu-armenian-adviser-corruption.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted December 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Turkish-Armenian official hints scenario of breaking border deadlock14:46 * 13.12.14An ethnic Armenian advisor to the Turkish premier has prompted apossible solution towards the opening of the closed interstate border.In an interview with the Russian radio channel Golos Rosssii, EtienneMahchupian said he thinks that package settlement remains the onlybest possible option. "The border between Turkey and Armenia will openonly in case of a package settlement, and that addresses both theTurkish-Armenian and the Armenian-Azerbaijani relations," he noted.Mahchupian said he doesn't expect Turkey to take any steps to satisfyArmenia's demands. Meantime he ruled out any concessions by thecountry.Recalling former Prime Minister (and incumbent President) Recep TayyipErdogan's condolence address issued ahead of the Genocide anniversaryin April, the advisor said he doesn't think that the country would gobeyond that threshold.Turkey closed its border with Armenia in 1993 to express solidaritywith Azerbaijan in the Nagorno-Karabakh land dispute.http://www.tert.am/en/news/2014/12/13/mahchupyan-border/1535220 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted December 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Spoken like a Loyal Millet!!!!!!!Mahcupyan: Turkey not to open border without Karabakh problem solutionThe Senior Advisor to Turkish Prime Minister Etienne Mahcupyan saidthe Turkey-Armenia border can open only in case of a packagesettlement, Argumeti.ru said.The matter concerns both the Turkish-Armenian and Azerbaijani-Armenianrelations, he noted.Mahcupyan said that April 24, 2015 is a very symbolic date and theapproach of this date increases radicalism in the Armenian societythat takes an uncompromising approach to this issue.The senior advisor said that he doesn't believe Turkey will take stepsin accordance with the demands of the Armenian side.Turkey's making concessions in the issues of the Armenian Genocide andopening of borders is impossible with such an approach of the Armenianside, Mahcupyan said.However, Turkey can take steps in this matter only a year later aftertensions ease, he added.13.12.14, 15:18http://www.aysor.am/en/news/2014/12/13/Mahcupyan-Turkey-not-to-open-border-without-Karabakh-problem-solution/884782 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted December 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 Spoken like a turk!TURKEY, ARMENIA SHOULD LEAVE GENOCIDE ROW 'TO COMING YEARS': ETYEN MAHCUPYAN10:52, 26 Dec 2014Turkey and Armenia should not expect to resolve a long-runningdispute over the mass killing of Armenians in World War I on the100th anniversary of the tragedy in 2015, a top adviser to the primeminister said, AFPreports.Etyen Mahcupyan, who is himself a member of Turkey's Armenian minority,told AFP in an interview that 2015 would be a "tough year" because ofthe anniversary and major breakthroughs would have to wait for later."I believe symbolic steps could be taken this year and a more emotionalrelationship could be established," said Mahcupyan, who is a senioradviser to Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu."But I believe more political or historical issues will be left tothe coming years and then it will be easier," he added.Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan offered an unprecedentedexpression of condolence for the massacres in April when he was stillprime minister, describing the killings as "our shared pain."But this went nowhere near far enough for Armenians, who want thedeaths of an estimated 1.5 million people recognized as a campaignof genocide ordered by the top security leadership of the OttomanEmpire from 1915-1916.Mahcupyan, one of very few Armenians to have held a government post,said the priority for the future should be establishing relationswith Armenia as well as the millions-strong diaspora, many of whomharbor a deep hatred of Turkey."I don't think we need to hurry 100 years on. What happens later onshould proceed more healthily," he said.Armenia will commemorate the 100th anniversary of the massacres onApril 24, the date when in 1915 hundreds of Armenians were roundedup and later massacred in Constantinople (now Istanbul) marking thestart of the killings.Pointing to the striking "rapprochement" in relations between Russiaand Turkey over the last months, Mahcupyan said Moscow could play arole "that facilitates this issue," he said.http://www.armradio.am/en/2014/12/26/turkey-armenia-should-leave-genocide-row-to-coming-years-etyen-mahcupyan/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Today's Zaman, TurkeyJan 6 2015Is Etyen Mahcupyan a national security threat?by JOOST LAGENDIJKJanuary 06, 2015, TuesdayWhether Turkey likes it or not, 2015 is going to be the year when thiscountry, the successor to the Ottoman Empire, will be faced again withthe question - more pertinent than ever before--of how it looks back atthe atrocities committed against the Ottoman Armenians in 1915.The rest of the world will be watching how Turkey will deal with theallegations of genocide placed at its feet by Armenians all over theworld, morally supported by global public opinion that believes Turkeyhas the responsibility to come up with a convincing answer. After 100years of denial and failed efforts to redefine the issue, Turkey willat least have to show it recognizes this unsolved problem and respondto it in a constructive and compassionate way.Many hope Turkey will continue where then-Prime Minister and currentPresident Recep Tayyip Erdogan ended last year when he extended hiscondolences for the Armenian losses in 1915. His actions were ahistoric first and, together with speeches from then-Foreign Ministerand current Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, seemed to indicate awillingness to initiate a new phase in currently frozenArmenian-Turkish relations and in dealing with the haunting disputesof the past.I am sure that from now until April 24, we will see a lot ofspeculation about what Turkey is planning to do in the run-up to andon the day of the centennial. Expectations are high that EtyenMahcupyan, one of the most well-known Turks of Armenian descent whohas been nominated to be adviser to Prime Minister Davutoglu, can playa positive role in that process.Against this background of cautious optimism, reading a recent articleexamining how Turkish textbooks deal with the Armenian genocide was analarming wake-up call, revealing the distance that still has to becovered. Taner Akcam, the Turkish historian who opened the eyes ofmany Turks to the horrors of 1915 and now works in the U.S., took aclose look at the history textbooks that are being used today inTurkish schools, prepared and approved by the Ministry of NationalEducation. His conclusions are both shocking and sad.Akcam cites many examples of blatant errors and obvious fabricationsthat are being used in the textbooks to paint a picture of Armeniansas the true aggressors and Turks as innocent victims. Incredibly,after all that has been published on this issue, history is stillbeing distorted and manipulated in order to legitimize the massacresthat took place. Akcam's conclusion is clear: "There is nothing newabout the New Turkey. Everything here is a repeat of what's been goingon for decades."On top of these historical falsifications, what is most upsetting isthe way today's Armenians, in Turkey and abroad, are presented as oneof the biggest national security threats to Turkey. Turkish historytextbooks convey the message that every Armenian is an enemy. In thewords of Akcam: "Even if we set aside for a minute the diaspora andArmenians in Armenia, it is clear that the government perceives asegment of its own citizens and their problems to be a threat againstnational security, and educates all of its citizens to engenderfeelings of hatred an enmity towards this one segment."How schizophrenic is a country in which students are indoctrinatedagainst Armenians, while at the same time Etyen Mahcupyan -- the mostvisible representative of that ethnic group-- is one of the mainadvisers to the prime minister?At the end of his article, Akcam makes an almost desperate call to hisreaders, one that I support wholeheartedly: "The Turkish government isgoing to put up smokescreens, claiming to be interested in makingamends, and claiming that Armenians are the ones who keep backingaway, etc. It is going to try to create the impression that it is theside willing to compromise and to find solutions. Please place thesetextbooks directly in front of them at each and every opportunity, andmake it clear to them that if they want to reclaim any kind ofintegrity on the subject they should first pull these books fromcirculation."http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist/joost-lagendijk/is-etyen-mahcupyan-a-national-security-threat_369067.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Turkey seeking to cause split within Armenian Diaspora18:13 * 29.01.15Turkey is seeking to cause a split within the Armenian Diaspora andshow it is not unanimous in objecting to relations with Turkey, expertin Turkic studies Arshak Shakaryan told Tert.am.He thus disagrees with Etyen Mahçupyan, Senior Advisor to the PrimeMinister of Turkey, who stated that Armenia is more willing toestablish relations with Turkey than the Armenian Disapora."Ninety percent of the Armenian Diaspora are against relations withTurkey. However, Turkey is able to find ten percent and work with themand promise something to them, claiming that they are representing theArmenian Diaspora," Mr Shakaryan said.As to the fact that Armenian-Turkish official is the one that made astatement, the expert believes that Etyen Mahçupyan was appointed tomake such statements."His statement has something in common with reality. However, itreflects the fundamental principles of Turkey's policy," Mr Shakaryansaid.Turkey has for a several years been seeking to establish relationswith the Armenian Diaspora, trying to present Armenian-Turkishrelations as Turkey-Armenians relations rather than Turkey-Armeniarelations."Numerous consulates hold meetings with diasporic Armenianorganizations, trying to draw then into a dialogue, discuss otherissues pertaining to Armenian-Turkish relations, including claims,hold cultural events thus showing the entire world thatArmenian-Turkish relations are not restricted to frozen Ankara-Yerevanrelations," the expert said.Turkey has come to realize that the Armenian side is locomotive in thematter of recognition of the Armenian Genocide, and an opportunity tocause a split within the Armenian Diaspora means slowing down theprocess of presenting demands.Although many Armenians are struggling for recognition of the ArmenianGenocide, they continue listening to Turkish music and watchingTurkish TV channels."Turkey is trying to make use of it. Davutoglu stated recently thatthe Armenian Diaspora are former citizens of the Ottoman Empire, andTurkey is even ready to consider the issue of granting Turkishcitizenship to some of them," Mr Shakaryan said.As regards the possibility of slight progress in Armenia-Turkeyrelations this year, he said that everything depends on Turkey."If Turkey makes just and reasonable steps, it will have moreopportunities for rapprochement."http://www.tert.am/en/news/2015/01/29/artak-shaqaryan/1573535 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Ruben Melkonyan. `It is strange for Etienne Mahchupian to comprehendthe counsel of April 24.'January 31 2015Advisor to Turkish prime minister Etienne Mahchupian, commenting onTurkish president Recep Tayyip ErdoÄ?an's invitation addressed toArmenia's President Serzh Sargsyan, had said that Armenians were alsokilled in this Battle, and attending the celebration incurs formArmenia's interests. In this respect, Aravot.am talked with RubenMelkonyan, who mentioned that one should understand EtienneMahchupian's political description to interpret his statements. `It isclear that Etienne Mahchupian was appointed an Advisor to TurkishPrime Minister due to this very description, a person who is Armeniaonly by the surname, and a person who openly announces that first ofall he is a citizen and official of Turkey and serves the interests ofTurkey. Naturally, Etienne Mahchupian's statement is a statement of anordinary Turkish official, which should incur from the interests ofthis state.' Mr. Menkonyan mentioned that Etienne Mahchupian supportsthe left-wing ideology for many years, whose national identity issubordinated. `It is probably strange for him to comprehend thecounsel of April 24, and whether it is possible for the Armenianofficial to attend an invented and fabricated celebration on April 24,the Centennial of the Dardanelles battle. Hence, I think that EtienneMahchupian's statement shows that he does not realize and is notfamiliar with the Armenian perceptions and approaches the issueone-sidedly ` from Turkish viewpoint.' The Turkologist believes thatthis is not the case when Armenia should make a move to meet Turkey,which will contribute to the establishment of relations between thetwo parties. `This is clearly the case when the Turkish authoritieshave invent a pretext to divert the international attention from theArmenian genocide issue. This is one more campaign trick indicatingtheir move to meet Armenia.'Ami CHICHAKYANRead more at: http://en.aravot.am/2015/01/31/168640/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Another Armenian being used for political reasons, not because Turkey is becoming a democracy! Just like in kindergarten, kids bring things to school for show and tell.ARMENIAN JOURNALIST TO BECOME TURKEY MP?16:44, 25.02.2015In parallel with the forthcoming parliamentary election in Turkey,the names of the MP candidates of the political parties are beingsketched out.In the coming election, the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP)has decided to nominate as MP candidate Istanbul Armenian journalistMarkar Esayan, who is a columnist in Yeni Safak daily, Aksam dailyof Turkey reported.If Esayan makes it to the AKP's passing list, he will be elected tothe Turkish parliament and also become the first Armenian MP of theparty in power.Turkey's next parliamentary election is slated for June 7.Armenia News - NEWS.am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 ANKARA MAYOR PRAISES MAHCUPYAN AFTER HAVING OFFENDED THE ARMENIANS17:00, 27 March, 2015YEREVAN, 27 MARCH, ARMENPRESS. Mayor of Ankara Melih Gökcek, whorecently stood out with his anti-Armenian statements, has expressedhis support to the Senior Advisor to Turkey's Prime Minister EtyenMahcupyan, who has declared that he considers himself an Ottoman. As"Armenpress" reports, Gökcek posted the following on his Twittermicroblog: "Here we have an Armenian who deserves to be crowned...Thegrandson of people who have been living in the Ottoman Empire forcenturies".Earlier, Etyen Mahcupyan, Senior Advisor to Turkey's Prime MInisterAhmet Davutoglu, had declared that even though he is Armenian, hefeels more like an Ottoman. The Prime Minister's Senior Advisor hadalso said he doesn't care that Armenians refer to him as a "traitor"."After all, all Armenians have different views. It's very likelythat there are also Armenians who call me a traitor, but that's notimportant," he added.http://armenpress.am/eng/news/799501/ankara-mayor-praises-mah%C3%A7upyan-after-having-offended-the-armenians.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Istanbul-Armenian singer replied to Etyen Mahçupyan's odd statement12:23, 28 March, 2015YEREVAN, 28 MARCH, ARMENPRESS. The recent statement of EtyenMahçupyan, advisor of the Prime Minister of Turkey, remain a topic ofdiscussion on the Internet. Mahçupyan said that although he isArmenian, but feels himself more as an Ottoman. As "Armenpress"reports that Istanbul-Armenian singer Hayko Cepkin reflected on thisissue in his micro blog on "Tweeter".He recalled the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's earlierwords, where he had said by offensive tone. "Sorry, but they even callme an Armenian". "It is possible that Recep Tayyip Erdogan made acomment "Excuse me for my expression Armenian" having example to EtyenMahçupyan. If he has been used as an example, it means that ingeneral I do not take the words on me", Cepkin has written.http://armenpress.am/eng/news/799564/istanbul-armenian-singer-replied-to-etyen-mah%C3%A7upyan%E2%80%99s-odd-statement.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I am not a nationalist, but what happened was genocide: Mahçupyan15:38, 28 March, 2015YEREVAN, 28 MARCH, ARMENPRESS. Senior Advisor to the Prime Minister ofTurkey, Istanbul-Armenian Etyen Mahçupyan, who is recently standingout with his anti-Armenian statements, has declared that he considersthe events of 1915 as Genocide. As "Armenpress" reports, citing theTurkish Haberler.com, this is what Mahçupyan talked about during aroundtable discussion on "Understanding Change: The Era of JDP inTurkey" in London.He reiterated the statement that he had made in Belgium, stating thateven though he is Armenian, he considers himself an Ottoman. "As Isaid yesterday, I feel more like an Ottoman than an Armenian. I am nota nationalist, but I use the term "Armenian Genocide" when touchingupon the topic of the genocide of 1915. I believe what happened wasgenocide since there is a clear formulation of genocide, and whathappened falls in line with that formulation. If you change theformulation, the events may not be considered as genocide. Many peoplemight not understand me. Genocide is not a historical formulation, buta legal term," Mahçupyan mentioned.On 27 March, Turkish presses reported that the Senior Advisor toTurkey's Prime Minister had said he did not care if the Armeniansreferred to him as a "traitor". "After all, each Armenian has adifferent view. It's very likely that there are Armenians who refer tome as a "traitor", but that does not matter," he added.http://armenpress.am/eng/news/799578/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Finally he saw the light, what was he thinking? Etyen Mahcupyan steps downThe first ever member of Turkey's Armenian community to hold the post of senior advisor to the Turkish prime minister has retired, an official told AFP Thursday, after he described the mass killings of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire as a "genocide."According to AFP, the official, who asked not to be named, denied any link between the departure of Etyen Mahcupyan and the looming 100th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide.Mahcupyan, 65, "has retired on the grounds of age," the official said, noting this was the age limit for all Turkish civil servants.Mahcupyan, who was appointed last year as senior advisor to Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, infuriated some within the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) this week when he qualified the mass killings of Armenians as a "genocide," AFP says. "If accepting that what happened in Bosnia and Africa were genocides, it is impossible not to call what happened to Armenians in 1915 genocide too," Mahcupyan said in an interview published this week. Source: Panorama.am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 ETYEN MAHCUPYAN DID HIS JOB - RUBEN MELKONYAN13:33 * 17.04.15http://www.tert.am/en/news/2015/04/17/ruben/1648813The appointment of Etyen Mahcupyan as chief advisor to Turkey's premierand his retirement is nothing, but a part of a "democratic" show madeby Turkey, expert in Turkic studies Ruben Melkonyan told Tert.am."Turkey has found itself is a rather serious situation after the Pope'sremark and the European Parliament's resolution. And pretending to bea tolerant state allowing people to organize academic comnferenceson the Armenian Genocide has actually proved to be a show. And thecurrent development in Turkey are the best evidence of that state'sthinking," Mr Melkonyan said.According to the Hurriyet newspaper, the reason for Mahcupyan leavinghis post is his age.His recent statement on the killings of Armenians in 1915 at the handsof the Ottoman Empire were a "genocide," evoked a strong reactionin Turkey.Asked if Mahcupyan used the term "genocide" because he was aware hewould retire for age reasons, Mr Melkonyan said:"Etyen Mahcupyan may have been involved in general tendency. Althoughhe hardly has any serious ties with the Armenians and cannot beconsidered an Armenian figure, he is an intellectual and cannot standaloof from international tendencies." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 MAHCUP, AMOT, EMBARASSMENTMay 22, 2015BY GAREN YEGPARIANEtyen Mahcupyan's "Compensation and territory" published May 12,2015 in the Turkish Daily Sabah is a mass of drivel that constitutesan affront to human decency and intellect. Please, feel free to readit in its entirety. I will just address the most flagrant fallacies.You might remember that Mahcupyan is an academic who worked at theArmenian newspaper "Agos", then moved to Gulenist circles, and finallyended up in AKP's (Erdoghan's party) orbit, even serving brieflyas an advisor to Prime Minister Davutoglu before his consciencefinally got in the way and he dared say "Genocide". Interestingly,his surname describes well the spirit underlying this horrible op-edpiece. While the root word, starting in Arabic means "veiled", as Ihave come to understand the word based on conversation and Turkishdictionaries, in practice it means: mousy, diffident, ashamed,embarrassed, timid... you get the idea.Hopefully, Etyen will see this piece and change his tune some."... a deeper perspective might suggest that a deliberate ambiguityis created and the complex psychology of the Armenians lies behind it."This strikes me as psychobabble deliberately used to distract thereader from the real and relatively simple principles undegirdingany solution to the Armenian Question."...it is difficult to believe that the demand for territory has anyhope of being realized."The flaw in the last sentence is painfully obvious, yet many peoplemake this or similar arguments, all the time.1- If we don't pursue a goal we are CERTAIN not to achieve it;2- No one would have believed, in 1980, the Soviet Union would collapsejust a decade, so arguing that territorial/frontier changes have nohope of being realized is vacuous."... territory does not change hands on the basis of consent in theworld of nation states."Really? How then are we to describe the land swap that occurredbetween Iran and Turkey in 1930's thanks to which pan-Turkist idealswere served by giving Trueky a direct border with Nakhichevan?"... as two member countries of the U.N., Turkey and Armenia mustrespect each other's territorial integrity."Fair enough, but the current border/frontier is ILLEGAL, Mahcupyanshould know this well. The LEGAL border/frontier is the one establishedby President Woodrow Wilson's Arbitral Award. Even a cursory reviewof Ara Papian's massive studies in this field makes it evident.On the other hand, such a demand has a weak historical basis in thatthe lands inhabited by Armenians in the past did not belong to them(with the exception of those that constituted individual properties),but to the Ottoman Empire.Really? Why is the Ottoman Empire the starting point? Why not theCilician, Pakradouni, Arshagouni, or any other ARMENIAN kingdom orprincipality? What about the human right of self determination? Whatabout the foundational concept legitimizing nation-states?"... until the Ottoman Empire collapsed, no soil was regarded asthe territory of any ethnic group... Later, "Turks" took possessionof those lands... we have to acknowledge that Turkish nationalism'sassertion to be the continuation of the empire is stronger than thatof the Armenians, as far as the transitivity between Ottomanism andTurkism is concerned.I'm happy to see that Mahcupyan at least affirms the CONTINUITY of thetwo Turkish states--Ottoman and Republican. But once again taking theOttoman Empire as the definitive starting point constitutes a flawedapproach. he should thus at least be able to understand why Ankarais TODAY accountable to the Armenian nation for past misdeeds. Also,it is not any portion of "Anatolia" that is in question, but theArmenian Plateau (or Highlands). This linguistic legerdemain helpsconfuse the uninformed. Asia Minor, which today's Turkey occupiesmuch of, is NOT synonymous with Anatolia. Rather, Anatolia and theArmenian Plateau are PARTS OF Asia Minor.The issue of compensation ... we deliberately want to leave itambiguous as well. Being content with the revival of Armenian heritagein Anatolia as compensation does not seem satisfactory enough orsignificant enough for the Armenian diaspora in that it is not veryclear to what extent Anatolia is their homeland... it would be ratherunethical to demand money in return for what was experienced. Whocan measure those sorrows and estimate a price for them? Thus,the world of "compensation" is being kept on the agenda. However,it will always remain futile.Wow, more fatuous Mahcupyanisms! What does "revival of Armenianheritage in Anatolia" mean? The goal is to return their as anation/people and have all stolen property returned to us. And whyis compensation for the property (real and movable) unethical? Itis simple:1- Real estate gets returned to descendants of the original owners2- Money similarly gets returned to descendants of the original owners3-The value of expropriated goods, too, gets returned to descendantsof the original owners, unless the original goods themselves canbe returned.4- When descendants do not exist, or at least cannot be found, theabove three are placed in a trust of some sor,t administered by theArmenian nation (exactly how remains to be determined since it mustNOT be a exclusively governmental entity).>From the Armenians' perspective, the triplet of recognition,compensation and territory constitutes a holy integration.FALSERecognition is the most important one and the necessary first steps,without which, the next steps are impossible.TOTALLY FALSE- each one stands on its own set of legal legs"... from Turkey's point of view, recognition is not possible beforedemands for compensation and territory become "realistic," ... noprogress has been made on this topic for many years, and this deadlockmight continue for centuries...What a great way to excuse Turkish unwillingness to do the right thing.Please, anyone who knows this Etyen Mahcupyan guy, please tell himto just be quiet and stop embarasing himself, offending Armenians,and making progress on the Armenian Question more difficult.http://asbarez.com/blog/archives/136316 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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