Harut Posted August 15, 2001 Report Share Posted August 15, 2001 hey guys, you motivated me so much that now i want to move out myself.but i live only 15 mins away from my college.and now we're buying a house that is even closer to it. may be i should rent my neighbors house? what do you think??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted July 7, 2002 Report Share Posted July 7, 2002 quote:By ThothOne of my main regrets is that I didn't goof off more in my youth. Really. I always was working 1 or 2 jobs - taking massive amounts of credits - work work work - doing what was expected of me...etc I wish i would have taken some time off to backpack around the world or such - or spend some (more) time at our various national parks and just bum around - see places meet new people etc. So don't be afraid to trake a braeak - maybe right in the middle of your school program. And don't just rush into your major. As you take some time off and see the world a bit - talk to folks - find out what they do - etc - then you can decide what you may want to do with your life. There is plenty of time for study and work - don't be in such a rush all of the time (to just do school and work). (Did I mention how Armenians just love to give advice...LOL)? I wish you well.It's funny! Those who "goof-off" when they are young regret it, those who "work hard" regret it ... no one that I know of has been able to hit that perfect balance between work and play! I think I will always wonder "what if?" ... but I will never regret my past After all, if I had done anything differently in the past, I would NOT be the Sip I am today ... and that would trully suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted July 7, 2002 Report Share Posted July 7, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Sip:Interesting thread ... something that is probably on the minds of many Armenian families (some I know very personally). I am in BIG favor of staying home for as long as you are in school. Yes, I've had to put up with being looked down upon as "a 25 year-old who still lives at home" smilies/lol.gif in this rediculous US culture which seems to constantly adovcate: "Go very far away to college, drink, party, smoke, have sex, have fun, and try to study once in a while"!!! ... I know it is supposed to be shameful and not the "American" thing to do. But I don't regret a single second of it. your stell coll duudee Sure I may have missed all the "fun" and excitement of living alone smilies/rolleyes.gif but there are also BIG advantages to having a nice "home" to go to after class each day. A place where you can reflect and remember that you are in school to work hard ... to learn ... and to become a better person (not what the media, pop culture, and the others tell you). I have seen several of my friends move out of their supporting, loving, homes ... go into the strange world of University life in the US and simply get lost. Note, I am NOT saying this will happen to everyone ... I am just trying to share my experience which I think has been VERY positive staying at "home" while spending all my years at UCLA. i see the LOST ones most every day - yev havata iyn inch yes em tesnum - usanorneri kyanqi DARK orer@ - shater@ angam garapar chunen dra masin - patkeratsreq vor usanorneri kyanq@ misht chi vor VARDAGUYN e Also let me make it clear that ever since high school I have been pretty independent. I have paid for EVERYTHING I have needed. I have paid for my own cloths, car, insurance, school feels, toys, traveling, etc etc ... at some points I have had 2 or 3 jobs while at school ... I have worked hard (Ok I never paid rent and I did eat a lot of stuff out of the fridge which I didn't buy but you get the point ) Staying home has allowed me to travel extensively (due to the money I saved), have lukrative hobies and other activities (i.e. offroading) which are essential to coping with the stresses that pusuing a Ph.D. degree can entail and not to mention the fact that you often have access to the nice home-made meals!!!! lukrative hobies / oh we know Seaphan jan you and your hobies / i just got me a new one RC Chapperrrr / he he So staying at home does NOT mean not being independent. But it does mean having a good support structure in place for when the times get really hard (because they will!). Especially if you are going to chase education levels well beyond a 4-year BS, then don't be so hasty leaving home. support structure / you support your OJAX and your OJAX supports you - th ebest way to go In some cases you will have no choice ... if a very good university has accepted you but is far from home, your only choice may be to move. But if there is an alternative, I would not easily dismiss "staying home" as an option. independent i will be 33 in 20 days and i'm still in my HOUSE - i wll not have it any other way You'll have the rest of your life to be on your own man your Coll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted July 7, 2002 Report Share Posted July 7, 2002 Interesting thread ... something that is probably on the minds of many Armenian families (some I know very personally). I am in BIG favor of staying home for as long as you are in school. Yes, I've had to put up with being looked down upon as "a 25 year-old who still lives at home" in this rediculous US culture which seems to constantly adovcate: "Go very far away to college, drink, party, smoke, have sex, have fun, and try to study once in a while"!!! ... I know it is supposed to be shameful and not the "American" thing to do. But I don't regret a single second of it. Sure I may have missed all the "fun" and excitement of living alone but there are also BIG advantages to having a nice "home" to go to after class each day. A place where you can reflect and remember that you are in school to work hard ... to learn ... and to become a better person (not what the media, pop culture, and the others tell you). I have seen several of my friends move out of their supporting, loving, homes ... go into the strange world of University life in the US and simply get lost. Note, I am NOT saying this will happen to everyone ... I am just trying to share my experience which I think has been VERY positive staying at "home" while spending all my years at UCLA. Also let me make it clear that ever since high school I have been pretty independent. I have paid for EVERYTHING I have needed. I have paid for my own cloths, car, insurance, school feels, toys, traveling, etc etc ... at some points I have had 2 or 3 jobs while at school ... I have worked hard (Ok I never paid rent and I did eat a lot of stuff out of the fridge which I didn't buy but you get the point ) Staying home has allowed me to travel extensively (due to the money I saved), have lukrative hobies and other activities (i.e. offroading) which are essential to coping with the stresses that pusuing a Ph.D. degree can entail and not to mention the fact that you often have access to the nice home-made meals!!!! So staying at home does NOT mean not being independent. But it does mean having a good support structure in place for when the times get really hard (because they will!). Especially if you are going to chase education levels well beyond a 4-year BS, then don't be so hasty leaving home. In some cases you will have no choice ... if a very good university has accepted you but is far from home, your only choice may be to move. But if there is an alternative, I would not easily dismiss "staying home" as an option. You'll have the rest of your life to be on your own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted July 7, 2002 Report Share Posted July 7, 2002 Mos jan, first of all, still posting at 4:45 AM ?!!! Second of all ... RC CHOPPER?!!! Are you kidding me? Dude, pictures, details, info, anything ... I LOVE those things (I've never had one and have heard they are very hard to fly ... assuming I understood you correctly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armine Posted July 10, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Sip Jan, I have two major concerns with your reply. The first is the idea of independance, I did not deside to go to school in Irvine to be independant and away from home, I am not as "Americanized" as you precieve it. I am not running away from home or using school as a opportunty to get this so called idea of "freedom" from my parents or family. My reasons vary greatly from those I have written above. I am a very home based and raised child, if you would care to know why I choose to go to Irvine and more about my living arrangements I could provide you with details.The second factor which concerns me is that for some reason most of society and mostly the armenian community, which I love with all my heart for all its good and bad facets, thinks that people move away to live this party life. They think alll people do is get high, have sex, and everything and anything besides studying once month. NO that is not true, that is not the life for all university students. What hurts me the most is that people compare me to those kind of people yet all I do at school is study, not once have a gone to a frat party or engaged in activities that I should not be engaging in. It hurts me when people say that about students. YES it does exist but it does not apply to everyone. Everyone knows about this party life but no one wants to acknowlegde the time and work some students put in their studies. I wish some people can see the other side of being a university student, but of course not, to eveyone else I am a girl running away from something. I am not, I have nothing to run away from. I love my family and no one nor one thing can keep me away from them. I may be studing at Irvine during the week but I am in my HOME on the weekends, and spend my time with people who matter the most to me in my life.I did not go to Irvine to slack of and get freedome from anything. I have a very healthy and undertanding relationship with my family members, which include both my parents, my two older brothers, my beloved sister-in-law who is my true sister, my niece, and my parrot.Oh and for those who think I am "Americanized" because I choose to go to Irive for school, I just wish they knew me, you just have to talk to me once to know who I am and where I come from. I wish more people would care about that rather than judge me without any knowledge about me. I hate it when people include me in generalizations, I am not one who could be catogorized, no generalizations can be made about me. The reason why I am refering to myself is because I am the one who posted this topic before I began my freshman year at UCI. The one thing I wish is that I could get to where you are and have my phd one day. I may have never replied to any of your posts or written to you before but i do know who you are and respect you for it. I look up to you and hope that I can be in your shoes in seven years. ...take care Sip jan and thanks for the reply, if you have any questions let me know sweetheart.Armine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Dear Armo: all I have to say is that it is EXTREMELY cool that you have an attitude like that. I think you will do great and I can really see you have made a well thought-out decision I made the post above since I know there are people that think like us and live like us! It's just that the pop culture seems to always glorify (and highly exagerate) the "party" life at the University level and I have been shocked to talk to some younger students who think that's all that goes on in college ... of course if that's what they think, that's what they will do and it becomes sort of a "self-fullfiling prophecy"!!! One of my favorite examples is the Y2K scare ... if I come and say "oh, there will not be enough bread for everyone next week" ... well, everyone will naturally go and buy extra bread this week to last for next week. If everyone went and bought all that bread at the same time, of course there will be a shortage and we will not have enough bread in the store next week The prophecy came true! Anyway, sorry for the tangent but I really like that example !!! Just hoping that in case there are others that will read this thread ... those who are at or close to the critical time of making that decision. I want them to have the BIG picture. Moving away can be great ... but only if you have the correct attitude (note, I still don't know what is the correct attitude so I can only offer my perpective and nothing more). I have also lost a few friends who were great kids in highschool but went down the wrong path ... wasted some of their most potentially fruitfuil years all because they were interested in "instant gratifications". But I also have a friend that moved away from school and just got his MD from Vanderbilt (in Tennessee) and is starting his medical internship years in New York. Oh and I also realize that I have been mixing the "moving away" topic with "partying and being irresponsible" topic! Granted ... it's not very fair. But it seems to me that when one is on his or her own, surrounded by peers that have those kinds of "party" attitudes, it becomes exponentially more difficult to resist the temptations I know I wouldn't have been able to ... peer-pressure can be a very strong and devastating force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armine Posted July 14, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 Thank you for understanding Sip Jan. I appreciate the time you have taken to respond to the post. Also, thank you for clarifying everything. .. Armine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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