Microsoft .NET

[Azat]

Does anyone here use .NET technology for development. This includes VB,NET, ASP.NET, C++.NET, C#(pronounced "C sharp") and few other odds and ends.

 

I recently installed it on my computer to do some parallel development on a messaging software that I have for auction companies.

 

Here is what my sample showed me.

Under Visual studio my app of only about 2k lines would compile to a small 186K app that users can easily download from the wed and install it on their PC. Including the overhead from Wise installed my download was still under 300K.

 

Under .NET my app compiled to about 300K, however for one to run my app they need to install the .NET Framework which is 40MG. What the hell is MS thinking?

 

I can see where ASP.NET may allow one to develop a much richer application but all the other languages are just as good in version 6 of Visual Studio.

 

I say .NOT to .NET

[Harut]

hmmm, actually it's getting quite good reviews here in our uni.

almost all the profs are recommending to get hold of one and start heading to .NET way. although, it's not yet tounght here.

 

oh, btw, if you're thinking about buying the whole package (the studio) there's no need to pay around $1000. just find a student that will buy for you. you can get hold of it for $95 if you're a student of some kind.

 

on the oder hand, don't even pay that $95. there are a lot of "good" site out there that already have them for download for FREE.

[Azat]

Hmmmmm, I know many are trying to move over to .NET and this the university profs will push it as well because they want you guys to be up on the technology, but I still think that the old version has many advantages for now.

 

Is it really 95 for the student version? Are there some limitations on it?

 

My client got me a copy as they are moving to .NET. I will just keep the software once the project is done.

 

BTW, How do you download a 4GB software off the net? The software comes on a DVD and there are 2 additional CD that contain some additional stuff.

[Sip]

I think it was fairly obvious from day one what Microsoft's strategy was with .NET ... they want to move EVERYTHING to .NET ... no more CD's to install from, no more disk, no more "personal copies" ... it'll all be "installed" and run from their servers as .NET applications ... EVERYTHING ... including Office and maybe even Windows itself.

 

It's really the only way they have any chance of fighting piracy and fattening their wallets. With the recent trends in bandwidth availability, it doesn't sound like such a far fetched plan either

 

Plus, there will no longer be any need for updates, patches, and service packs. On top of that, "version conflicts" will no longer be an issue. All software will be "centrally" managed on the Microsoft .NET servers.

 

So get used to .NET

 

Disclaimer: Most of this is my personal opinion and NOT fact I don't know too much about the inner workings of .NET either. I just know a very good friend who is currently working on executable compression technologies for Microsoft (most likely for .NET). It turns out you can compress program binaries very well since they are so regular. Details of this are of course trade secrets.

 

[ November 12, 2002, 11:46 PM: Message edited by: Sip ]

[Harut]

it's not a student version. it's the normal version. i don't recall what it is called, personal/professional edition. and it's without any limitations. but not everybody offers that deal. i can get the sites that have that deal if you want. actually they have that deal in our bookstore as well.

 

universityi t1-i jan@ sagh lini.

click download, lock the computer, go to lecture, come back at the end of the day.

 

bayts krrisner@ "sniffer"ner en "install" arel. miqich "extensive" download es anum accountd cancel en anum. piti gnas admini mot neroghutyun xndrelu.

 

[ November 12, 2002, 11:42 PM: Message edited by: Harut ]

[Guest Fadi]

The only thing I know about Microsoft .NET, is that when you install Windwows XP Pro, you get a poppuping on the bottom right, for several days, as an annoucement.

[Azat]

this is actually amazing to me, but here it is. A friend sent me this link http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/

 

it is an open source software called #Develop (SharpDevelop) and it allows you to basically do everything you can do with Visual Studio .NET.

 

here is the test from their site.

 

The Open Source Development Environment for .NET

 

#develop (short for SharpDevelop) is a free IDE for C# and VB.NET projects on Microsoft's .NET platform. It is open-source (GPL), and you can download both sourcecode and executables from this site. In addition, you can find the latest information and changes on #develop, as well as get in touch with the team in the forum.

 

We are going to add more content (and new releases) over the coming months, so sign up for our announcement list! Also, we want to invite you to participate in the forums, discussing SharpDevelop - its features, feature requests and of course bugs.