Yervant1 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) Only in Turkey you can be country's leader and an open RACIST and get away with it. They want to join Europe? I think not! ERDOGAN: EVEN WORSE, I APOLOGIZE, I WAS CALLED AN ARMENIANToday's Zaman, TurkeyAug 6 2014Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has sparked an outragein Turkey by saying he was, "even worse, called an Armenian" in whatmany condemned as "racist" remarks that include insults for minorities."I was called a Georgian. I apologize for this, but they even saidworse: They called me an Armenian," Erdogan said. "But I'm a Turk."Erdogan's apparently racist remarks sent chills across Turkey and litup social media accounts, many condemning him for insulting his ownArmenian citizens. This is not the first time Erdogan is "apologizing"for mentioning the name of a minority group in Turkey. In the past,he apologized for mentioning a "Greek" (Rum).Erdogan's remarks came during a debate about his controversialremarks last week, when he called on main opposition leader KemalKılıcdaroglu to acknowledge that he is an "Alevi" in what manyexperts argued was an attempt by the prime minister to bolster supportamong his mostly Sunni base. He said "I'm Sunni" and that no one,including Kılıcdaroglu, should hesitate in unveiling his or herown identity.http://www.todayszaman.com/newsDetail.action?newsId=354746 Edited December 5, 2015 by Yervant1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 In that non-language calling one an ermeni, or ones mother was ermeni is tantamount to calling one son of a whore, orusbi oghlu, just as in the Arabic Ibnil sharmuta. ebnil sharmuta Arabic and means Son of a whore You ebnil, abou, akhou Sharmuta! يا ابن الشرموطة (ya ibn alsharmoota) - you son of a whore It is like in the Armenian calling one ԲՈԶՈՐԴԻ- SOW, ՊՈՌՆԿՈՐԴԻ-SOW, ՔԱԾՈՐԴԻ- SOB Or better yet SSO- ՇՈՒՆ ՇԱՆՈՐԴԻ --- er -DOG-an, that dog face. http://www.stuckism.com/Dickinson/GoodBoy500.jpg http://www.stuckism.com/Dickinson/GoodBoy500.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) In that non-language calling one an ermeni, or ones mother was ermeni is tantamount to calling one son of a whore, orusbi oghlu, just as in the Arabic Ibnil sharmuta. ebnil sharmuta Arabic and means : Son of a whore You ebnil, abou, akhou Sharmuta! يا ابن لشرموط (ya ibn alsharmoota) - you son of a whore It is like in the Armenian calling one ԲՈԶՈՐԴԻ- SOW, ՊՈՌՆԿՈՐԴԻ-SOW, ՔԱԾՈՐԴԻ- SOB Or better yet SSO- ՇՈՒՆ ՇԱՆՈՐԴԻ --- er -DOG-an, that dog face. http://www.stuckism.com/Dickinson/GoodBoy500.jpg http://www.stuckism.com/Dickinson/GoodBoy500.jpg Edited August 6, 2014 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Mer Gamavor@ mi lav ban er asum jamanakin .. the best turk is ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Lest we think calling a furk ermeni, or having an ermeni mother Is a compliment, think again. Just like some of us take pride in our contributions to the ottoman culture and history. In that non-language calling one an ermeni, or ones mother was ermeni is the ultimate insult, is tantamount to calling one son of a whore, orusbi oghlu, just as in the Arabic Ibnil sharmuta. ebnil sharmuta Arabic and means : Son of a whore You ebnil, abou, akhou Sharmuta! يا ابن لشرموط (ya ibn alsharmoota) It is like in the Armenian calling one ԲՈԶՈՐԴԻ- SOW, ՊՈՌՆԿՈՐԴԻ-SOW, ՔԱԾՈՐԴԻ- SOBThis is not a new phenomenon. It goes back over a 100 years, when that butcher hamid was called ermeni bedros. Sadly, some of us fall for it, take to heart and spread it as the truth. Just like some will say that that DOG is of Georgian, Laz, even Hamshen or some other non-furk. See that dog (bedros) here and why he was called so. Here are some pictures of that SOT butcher. That garbage rumor was spread, just like now by his own ilk the young furks to embarrass him and start a revolution..They did. What did we get? The BIG G of 1915 followed by kakafurk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Abdul_Hamid_II_BNF_Gallica.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/No_3911_Page_162.,_Le_sultan_d'etron'e_Abdul-Hamid.jpg http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=53171 http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=26734 See the picture of that er-DOG-an above.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 ERDOGAN INSULTED BY HAVING BEEN CALLED "AN ARMENIAN"Wednesday 6 August 2014 12:23Photo: http://www.ruscur.ru/Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip ErdoganYerevan /Mediamax/. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan whois running for presidency made a statement which was condemned as anapparently racist remark both inside the country and abroad.Zaman newspaper reports that Erdogan said the following:http://www.todayszaman.com/anasayfa_erdogan-even-worse-i-apologize-i-was-called-an-armenian_354746.html"I was called a Georgian. I apologize for this, but they even saidworse: they called me an Armenian. But I'm a Turk."According to the newspaper, Erdogan's apparently racist remarks sentchills across Turkey and lit up social media accounts, many condemninghim for insulting his own Armenian citizens.http://www.mediamax.am/en/news/region/11185/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 ERDOGAN UNDER FIRE FOR 'ANTI-ARMENIAN SLUR'Wednesday, August 6th, 2014Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan at a campaign rally"...they said even uglier things: They called me an Armenian!" Erdogansays of his opposition.ISTANBUL (Agence France Presse)--Turkish Prime Minister -- andpresidential hopeful -- Recep Tayyip Erdogan sparked an outcryWednesday after using what critics said was a racist slur againstArmenians in a television interview.During a live interview on the private NTV channel late Tuesday,Erdogan complained that the opposition was carrying out a smearcampaign against him by claiming that he was from another ethnicorigin."They called me a Georgian. Pardon me for saying this, but they saideven uglier things: They called me an Armenian!" Erdogan said."As far as I have learned from my father and grandfather, I am a Turk,"he added.His comment that it was ugly to be called an Armenian drew angeron social media, further inflaming tensions days ahead of Sunday'spresidential election where Erdogan is hot favorite to become headof state."Excuse me, but please go and become the president of another country,"wrote prominent Turkish-Armenian columnist Hayko Bagdat in an angryresponse to Erdogan.Melda Onur, a lawmaker from the main opposition Republican People'sParty (CHP), asked: "Is there any ethnic group who could escapeErdogan's hate speech?"Critics accused Erdogan of playing the sectarian and the ethnic cardin the run-up to the presidential elections."Is it ugly to be an Armenian or is it a shame? Please explain now!"demanded Nevsin Mengu, an anchorwoman at the private CNN-Turktelevision.Turkey's Armenian minority -- the remnants of a much greater communitythat lived during the Ottoman Empire -- numbers around 70,000 people,most of them living in Istanbul.They often complain of being considered second-class citizens in acountry where "Armenian" is often considered a curse.http://asbarez.com/125689/erdogan-under-fire-for-anti-armenian-slur/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 OPPOSITION LAWMAKER SUES ERDOGAN OVER INCITING HATRED FOR ARMENIANSAugust 6, 2014 - 21:37 AMTPanARMENIAN.Net - An opposition lawmaker has filed a legal complaintagainst Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan accusing him ofinciting racial hatred for saying people had insulted him in the pastby claiming he was of Georgian or Armenian descent, the AssociatedPress reports.Hursit Gunes filed the criminal complaint with court officialsWednesday.In an interview on NTV television late Tuesday, Aug 5, ahead ofSunday's presidential elections in which he is a candidate, the primeminister said: "They have said so many things about me. Some said Iwas Georgian. One said -- begging your pardon -- even uglier things,that I was Armenian."Erdogan has also faced accusations that he is propagating sectariandivisions and engaging in rhetoric bordering on anti-Semitism bycomparing Israel to Hitler. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 ERDOGAN UNDER FIRE OVER 'UGLY TO BE CALLED ARMENIAN' JIBENaharNet, LebanonAug 6 2014Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Wednesday facedaccusations of racism days before he stands in presidential electionsafter saying in a television interview that it was ugly to be calledan Armenian.During a live interview on the private NTV channel late Tuesday,Erdogan complained that the opposition was carrying out a smearcampaign against him by claiming that he was from another ethnicorigin."They called me a Georgian. Pardon me for saying this, but they saideven uglier things: They called me an Armenian!" Erdogan said."As far as I have learned from my father and grandfather, I am a Turk,"he added.His comment that it was ugly to be called an Armenian drew angeron social media, further inflaming tensions days ahead of Sunday'spresidential election where Erdogan is hot favorite to become headof state."Excuse me, but please go and become the president of another country,"wrote prominent Turkish-Armenian columnist Hayko Bagdat in an angryresponse to Erdogan.Melda Onur, lawmaker from the Republican People's Party (CHP), asked:"Is there any ethnic group who could escape Erdogan's hate speech?"Even a senior lawmaker from the ultra right-wing Nationalist MovementParty (MHP) -- usually not a natural friend of Turkey's Armenians --came to their defense."We have news for Erdogan from the 21th century: Being an Armenianis not a crime, a fault, an ugly, an embarrassing or a sinful thing....But his words amount to hate crime according to our laws," TugrulTurkes said in a written statement.Critics accused Erdogan of playing the sectarian and the ethnic cardin the run-up to the presidential elections."Is it ugly to be an Armenian or is it a shame? Please explain now!"demanded Nevsin Mengu, an anchorwoman at the private CNN-Turktelevision.Hursit Gunes, academic and CHP lawmaker, filed a criminal complaintagainst Erdogan for "inciting hatred" and "racism", Milliyet newspaperreported.Turkey's Armenian minority -- the remnants of a much greater communitythat lived during the Ottoman Empire -- numbers around 70,000 people,most of them living in Istanbul.They often complain of being considered second-class citizens in acountry where "Armenian" is often considered a curse.Armenians say up to 1.5 million of their forebears were killedin a 1915-1916 genocide by Turkey's former Ottoman Empire. Turkeysays 500,000 died of fighting and starvation during World War I andcategorically rejects the term genocide.Erdogan in April expressed his condolences over the World War Imassacres of Armenians, which he called "our shared pain", but hisoverture was brushed aside by Yerevan.Erdogan's supporters are largely ethnic Turkish Sunni Muslims, whoare the overwhelming majority community in Turkey.During an election rally last weekend, the 61-year-old premier urgedthe CHP leader Kemal Kilicdaroglu to make clear he belongs to thecountry's minority Alevi community, an offshoot of Shia Islam."Kilicdaroglu, you can be an Alevi. I respect you. Don't be afraidto say it. I am Sunni and can say it without fear. There is no needto deceive people," he said.Aytun Ciray, lawmaker and the deputy head of the CHP, called Erdogana "very dangerous leader" with a "sick state of mind" and suggestedthat he showed symptoms of "Mad Leader Disease".Erdogan also said his presidential election rival Selahattin Demirtas-- who represents a Kurdish party -- was actually a Zaza, an ethnicgroup living in southeast Turkey who often consider themselvesas Kurds.The premier meanwhile has repeatedly called his other election rivalEkmeleddin Ihsanoglu -- the Egypt-born former head of the Organizationof Islamic Cooperation -- "the Egyptian"."Yes, Kilicdaroglu is an Alevi, Demirtas is a Zaza, Ihsanoglu isEyptian and you are a thief!", the left-leaning BirGun newspaperheadlined on Sunday, referring to the corruption allegations againstErdogan and his inner circle.http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/142122-erdogan-under-fire-for-anti-armenian-slur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 IS 'ARMENIAN' AN INSULT? TURKEY'S PRIME MINISTER SEEMS TO THINK SO.Washington PostAug 6 2014In a television interview Tuesday, Turkish Prime Minister andpresidential hopeful Recep Tayyip Erdogan complained that people hadquestioned his family background."I was called a Georgian. I apologize for this, but they even said[something] worse: They called me an Armenian," Erdogan said duringan interview with NTV, according to a translation from Today's Zamannewspaper. "But I'm a Turk."The comment immediately sparked outrage, with CNN-Turk asking onTwitter whether it was really so "ugly" to be an Armenian and othersaccusing Erdogan of racism:___ nevsin mengu @nevsinmengu FollowErmeni olmak cirkin mi, ayýp mý? Anlayamadýmhttp://m.hurriyet.com.tr/Haber?id=26950696 ...___Erdogan is known to be a skilled orator, and this may have been just aslip of the tongue, but the history between Armenians and Turks makehis comments especially ill-advised. In 1915, during the dying daysof the Ottoman Empire, soldiers slaughtered hundreds of thousandsof ethnic Armenians living in what is now Turkey. Armenians andhistorians alike refer to it as a genocide, though Turkey and, notably,the United States have officially refused to use that terminology.The Turkish prime minister is just days away from his bid to becomepresident and is facing considerable backlash after more than a decadeof authoritarian rule. And while his Justice and Development Party(known by its Turkish initials AKP) is known for its combinationof capitalism, nationalism and Islamist governance, it has madesignificant inroads among Turkey's minority communities.Erdogan enjoys good support in the Kurdish-dominated southeast of thecountry, for example, and the AKP has pushed policies that supportedKurdish linguistic and cultural rights. If Erdogan wants to becomepresident, this Kurdish support may well be vital. There are also signsthat Erdogan had hoped to reach out to Armenians before his election,with reports that Turkey might open the Alican border crossing betweenthe countries. Erdogan even took a tentative step toward acknowledgingTurkey's role in the mass killings of Armenians, offering condolencesfor the "inhumane" acts (his comments, while unprecedented, leftmany Armenian observers cold: One complained that Erdogan had used"euphemisms and the age-old 'everyone suffered' denialist refrain").Despite this, Erdogan has been criticized for repeatedly talkingabout ethnic and religious differences in what appears to be a bid toshore up his support among his Sunni Islam base. Earlier this week,he had called on his rivals to be clear about their backgrounds. "Iam a Sunni, Kemal [Kýlýcdaroglu of the Republican People's Party, orCHP] is an Alevi [a branch of Shiite Islam], Selahattin [Demirtas,presidential candidate of the Peoples' Democratic Party] is Zaza[a type of Kurdish people]," he said, according to Hurriyet DailyNews, later adding. "I respect Alevis. Just as I make my sect public,so should he."70,000 or so Armenians still call Turkey home, and many in thatcommunity felt marginalized or even threatened before the comments.Erdogan often uses "extremely aggressive and bellicose language whenreferring to the Armenians or Armenian issue," Richard Giragosian, anAmerican-born Armenian analyst, told Today's Zaman in July. Erdoganmay have made an unfortunate verbal slip on Tuesday, but to criticsit confirms their worst fears.Adam Taylor writes about foreign affairs for The Washington Post.http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/08/06/is-armenian-an-insult-turkeys-prime-minister-seems-to-think-so/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 CRIMINAL COMPLAINT FILED AGAINST ERDOÐAN FOR HIS RACIST ATTITUDES AGAINST GEORGIANS AND, PARTICULARLY, ARMENIANS10:20 07.08.2014Today's Zaman - Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoðan, who hasbeen criticized recently for emphasizing the religious and ethnicbackgrounds of his political rivals, has made potentially offensiveremarks concerning people of Georgian and Armenian descent.In televised remarks on Tuesday, Erdoðan repeated previous statementshe had made about the backgrounds of Republican People's Party (CHP)leader Kemal Kýlýcdaroðlu and Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP) leaderand presidential candidate Selahattin Demirtaþ. Erdoðan had earliersaid, "Kýlýcdaroðlu, you are an Alevi and I am Sunni. You shouldstate this openly. Demirtaþ, you are Zaza. Don't be worried aboutspeaking out about this." In response to a question posed during ajoint broadcast of Star TV and NTV regarding the negative reactionthese words have drawn, Erdoðan said: "Let all Turks in Turkey saythey are Turks and all Kurds say they are Kurds. What is wrong withthat? You wouldn't believe the things they have said about me. Theyhave said I am Georgian. ...they have said even uglier things --they have called me Armenian, but I am Turkish."Reactions to Erdoðan's words describing being Armenian as "uglier"than being Georgian has found rapid and angry backlash.CHP deputy Hurþit Guneþ filed a criminal complaint against Erdoðanon Wednesday. Guneþ announced his plan to take legal action onhis Twitter account, saying Erdoðan had violated Article 10 of theConstitution and Articles 122 and 216 of the Turkish Penal Code (TCK)against discrimination.In remarks to show his reaction, Guneþ said: "Look at this disgrace.Erdoðan said being Armenian is ugly on NTV. What a shame! Calling aperson Armenian, even if it is untrue, is not "ugly". Seeing this assuch is a low form of racism! Erdoðan doesn't hear what he says. Ifhe becomes president, Turkey will not have only chosen a tyrant, butat the same time a racist." He also appealed to Turkey's citizens ofArmenian descent not to be offended. "His mind isn't in the rightplace," he said, adding: "The world should know this is a racistperson. He has defined the claim that he is Armenian as 'ugly'slander. His name is Tayyip Erdoðan."He also said Erdoðan's mentality was what caused the death ofjournalist Hrant Dink, who was assassinated by an ultra-nationalistteenager in 2007.Shortly after announcing his intention on Twitter to file a criminalcomplaint, Hurþit Guneþ went to the Ankara Courthouse and did so.http://www.armradio.am/en/2014/08/07/criminal-complaint-filed-against-erdogan-for-his-racist-attitudes-against-georgians-and-particularly-armenians/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 ERDOGAN PLAYS TO BASE BY SLIGHTING ARMENIANSAl-MonitorAug 7 2014Author: Cengiz CandarPosted August 7, 2014Steven Cook, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations witha reputation for expertise on Turkey and Egypt, wrote an article forPolitico Aug. 5 headlined, "What a Turkey! Has the Turkish leaderlost his head?" The article discussed the alleged anti-Semitism ofthe Turkish prime minister, currently running for the presidency.Cook's article begins, "If Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoganwere an American politician, he would be an excellent candidate forone of Chris Cillizza's 'Worst Week in Washington' features. First,on Friday, July 19, a day after the State Department spokespersoncriticized him for his frequent invocation of the Nazis to describeIsrael's behavior, Erdogan asked, 'What do Americans know aboutHitler?' Given that almost 200,000 young Americans died fighting inEurope during WWII, quite a lot, actually."In the article, Cook refers to Richard Cohen's Washington Post columnabout "Erdogan's 'Hitler fetish,'" in which Cohen questioned whetherErdogan had lost his mind.Cook gave his personal opinion of Erdogan, writing, "Having anover-inflated sense of self comes with being a world leader, and he'shas been in the bubble for almost 12 years. And for all of Erdogan'sseeming public decomposition, there is actually a perfectly rationaland sane politician astutely advancing his agenda, which at the momentis focused on becoming Turkey's next president. ... When it comes toanti-Semitism, Erdogan is guilty as charged, but sadly so are largenumbers of Turks. It is true that Jews found refuge in Turkey duringthe Inquisition and have lived and prospered there ever since, butthat does not mean that anti-Semitism is alien to Turkish culture."Cook naturally couldn't have imagined that what Erdogan would go onto say about Armenians would dwarf his remarks about Israel. On thenight of Aug. 5 in a joint transmission by NTV and Star TV, he wasreminded that in an election rally, main opposition leader KemalKilicdaroglu had said that he is an Alevi, Kurdish presidentialcandidate Selahattin Demirtas had announced that he is a Zaza andthat Erdogan himself had cited his Sunnism. Erdogan blurted a reactionthat instantly generated a passionate public debate in Turkey.He said, "Let all Turks in Turkey say they are Turks and all Kurdssay they are Kurds. What is wrong with that? You wouldn't believe thethings they have said about me. They have said I am Georgian. Excuseme, but they have said even uglier things. They have called meArmenian, but I am Turkish."Turkish traditional and social media went wild next day with reportsof how on Aug. 11, 2003, in an official visit to neighboring Georgia,Erdogan had said, "I am also a Georgian. Our family is a Georgianfamily that emigrated from Batumi to Rize." Thus the source of theallegation that he was Georgian was Erdogan himself. Clearly, hedid not find any ethnic identity other than Turkish healthy for hiselectoral fortunes a few days before the vote.But it was not his denial of Georgian origin that triggered thepassionate public debate. It was the way he phrased the Armenianidentity. His remark, "Excuse me, but they have said even uglierthings. They have called me Armenian," was taken as an example ofhate speech and an unjustifiable insult to the Armenian identity,and the public erupted in exceptionally harsh reactions.On Aug. 6, a group of well-known Turkish-Armenian intellectuals andbusiness people cynically calling themselves "Excuse us, Armenians"issued an articulate statement that read, "For years we were forced toshout out that we are Turkish. But we never found it ugly. We foundit wrong. We were upset being persistently told who we are. ... Didwe have any enemies of Turks, any racists among us? Of course we did,as much as any other nation. But we didn't crown these racists."The statement ends with the following lines that would break the heartof any conscientious person: "As a people whose ancestry has beenpulverized, we continue to live quietly as a diaspora on our own land.Stop baiting us, enjoy your life. Continue to live your life untilthe day we Armenians, Greeks, Syriacs, Turks, Kurds, Circassians,Georgians, Alevis, Christians, Jews and Muslims, with our brethrenwho vote for you or not, prove that we can do better than you."Among the 17 signatories were the names of late journalist HrantDink's son Arat Dink, Agos editor-in-chief Rober Koptas and his closeassociate Karin Karakasli, as well as well-known Armenian names suchas Anna Turay, Aris Nalci, Garo Paylan, Hayko Bagdat and YetvartDanzikyan, publishers and business people such as Ardasez Margosyanand Nazar Buyum particularly stood out.The unforgettable symbol of Armenian identity in Turkey, Hrant Dink,was assassinated in 2007, and his funeral was at the time the greatestmass demonstration ever in Istanbul. His weekly Agos newspaper carrieda photo of Erdogan on its Aug. 7 front page, accompanied by headline,"May Allah Forgive You." The piece read, "So now this happened, too.Presidential candidate Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan did notfind it enough to declare he is a Turk but also announced he is notan Armenian, with a grimace of disgust."Perhaps all of us living in this country are very lucky. You neverget bored. There is always an opportunity to amuse ourselves with afurther beguiling diversion and our share of hatred narratives. ... Ofcourse, no ethnic identity is a cause of pride or shame by itself.Such generalizations can only be the product of a racist mindset. Weknow very well that in addition to the estimated 50,000 Armenians inTurkey, there are thousands of people of Armenian ancestry living inthis land. Our small number and the need for many to remain secretArmenians are the bitter heritage of the 1915 Armenian Genocide. Whatwe want to say it that there are so many other issues to ask forArmenians' forgiveness. But there is no one apologizing or asking forour forgiveness. To the contrary, the burden of discrimination getsheavier by the day. When the prime minister finds being an Armenianugly -- excuse us -- some people are ready to don their white berets[as ultranationalists] and threaten Agos with impunity. The holy Quransays people were divided into nations and tribes so that they can getto know each other. We wonder if the prime minister is aware of thevalues he is trampling on with his remarks. What else is there to say,except, may God forgive his transgressions."Cook concluded his article, "Erdogan will leave nothing to chance."This is not to excuse Erdogan's recent Jew-baiting or an entireprevious year of intimidating his opponents, cowing the press,restricting access to the Internet, purging the bureaucracy andbanning (unsuccessfully) social media. These are the tactics of atin-pot dictator, not a major NATO ally, but Erdogan does not care.Behind the bluster and thuggish politics is an effort to secure thedomestic political arena. To the extent that this approach playswell among voters in Kayseri, Trabzon and Erzurum, Erdogan will reapthe benefits."From afar, Erdogan certainly seems crazy, but he is more likelycrazy like a fox."One can substitute "recent Armenian-insulting" for "recent Jew-baiting"and Cook's judgment remains applicable.Erdogan, in terms of domestic politics, as a political mastermind, canbe elected president but his alleged anti-Semitism and his insultingremarks on the Armenian identity will haunt him all him all theway, particularly in 2015, the 100th anniversary of what Armeniancommunities all over the world remember and depict as a genocide.Turkey, thanks to the "great master" and "strong leader's" unscrupulousattitude and hate speech toward religious and ethnic minorities,appears destined to suffer constant headaches in the internationalarena.http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/08/candar-erdogan-ethnic-slur-armenians-insult-anti-semitism.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 A PROUD ARMENIAN...Hurriyet Daily News, TurkeyAug 8 2014by Yusuf KanliIt is just a joke. Has it ever happened? I have no idea. Mostprobably it was the product of a cheeky story teller. Once upon a timethere was a sultan. He had a very mighty army and it was the era ofconquest. Booty from war filled the treasury up to the top limit. Withplenty of cash, no social problems at home and no external threat, themighty sultan started to become bored. What should he do to entertainhimself? Many people who failed to entertain the sultan perished;heads rolled down the imperial palace. One day, the frustrated sultantold his clown "Tell me such a joke that the apology of which willbe worse than the joke!"The chief clown was a small guy with nice hair, as if he had animplant. He was so successful at his job that according to the talkof the town, he was hiding his immense treasure in shoeboxes.The task was a very serious one. His head was at risk. The clownthought about the issue extensively and eventually went back to thesultan's court with a bright idea. "My sultan," he said, "shall wewalk a little bit in the rose garden?"Viziers were in charge of state affairs. The war was over and hecould not yet concoct a reason to start a new war. The treasury wasfull anyhow. He was bored. "Let's go for a walk," he said and slowlyclimbed down the stairs to the palace's luxurious rose garden. Aftertouring the garden for a while, the sultan and the clown were returningand all of a sudden, the clown pinched the sultan's back."How dare you?" the sultan roared. "Is your head uneasy on yourshoulders?" With a large smile on his face the clown replied back"Sorry my sultan, I mistook you for the mother queen!" The sultanwas perplexed. He would yell at the clown, but he did exactly whathe ordered him to do: A joke the apology of which would be worse thanthe joke... The clown received a loaded bahsish...One of the presidential candidates was talking on television. Theinterviewer acting the role of a journalist, was asking the questionshe was given by the "Public Diplomacy Department," created as a preludeto moving a while later to a grotesque white palace, the "AK Saray"for the construction of which a forest was devastated.The candidate was complaining that his opponents were constantlyaccusing him of being arrogant. "They complain that I was arrogantbecause I called one an Alevi and the other a Yazidi ... Sowhat? They have been saying many things about me ... They claimed Iwas Georgian ...Some said something even far worse ... Sorry to say, but some even cameforth with an ugly claim that I was an Armenian ... From my grandfatherdown, we have been Turks ... That's what I was raised with..."Can it be "worse" for anyone to be a Greek, Armenian, Kurd or Turk?What relevance is there for nationality or ethnicity? For a civilizedmentality aware of the fact that in this open air brothel, wherethousands of ethnicities, cultures, belief groups came, settled anddissolved in the big melting pot, Anatolia, or left their residueand vanished for good or exterminated after being subjected to someunfortunate, shameful undertakings of the mentality that consideredbeing called an Armenian as something horrible.Turkey's Armenian community, the few remaining from one of the severalancestral peoples of this land, was hurt with the sultan's statementin the making. I feel as if I am a proud Armenian today.p.s. Vote on Sunday!August/08/2014http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/a-proud-armenian.aspx?pageID=449&nID=70122&NewsCatID=425 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 PARDON HIM, HE IS AN ARMENIANHurriyet Daily News, TurkeyAug 9 2014YILMAZ OZDÄ°LIt is the beginning of the 1990s.He is a doctor and a sculptor. On his way to holidays, he makesa stopover in Afyon and comes across a huge crowd of people. Theirconditions look poor, torn clothes, eyes swollen from crying... "Whatis wrong?" he asks. They are local farmers conducting a fallensoldier's funeral.The man looks at his three-year-old daughter, jumping up and downwith joy and then takes a look at the villagers... On one hand,there is his daughter who he wouldn't even exchange a single strandof her hair for anything, and on the other, there is a father who letgo of his son in order for him to fight for his country... He feelsashamed. He thinks to himself, "I need to do something, make thesekids immortal." He prepares a "Å~^ehit Agacı" (Martyr Tree) project.He plans on writing the names of the victims of terror on tags andhang those tags on a tree, thus enabling the souls of these heroesto teeter on the trees forever.He only had the chance to put his plan into action in 2003. He decidesto join the contest opened by the State Art and Sculptor Museum. Hecomes to Istanbul. He then goes to the neighborhood of Tahtakale toget the tags, asking where to find them and everybody points in thedirection of an Armenian craftsman.He finds this little store in the backstreets of the Egyptian Bazaar(Mısır carÅ~_ısı), goes in and starts telling him about hisplan. The Armenian craftsman listens and he points out one detail theman had not thought about, "The tags should never rust; our childrenshould shine until eternity."The tags shouldn't rust indeed; however, the shiny tags thecraftsman mentioned are the most expensive kind; 1 Turkish Lira,25 kuruÅ~_... "This is not trade, don't bother about the money,this is our duty for our country," says the Armenian craftsman.He gives the tags for 25 kuruÅ~_, one fifth of the actual price,thus having a loss, rather than making a profit. 3,000 tags... Hepromises to send them by next week and does as he promises.However, the sculptor ends up not being able to join the contest dueto some errands. He takes the tags to the basement in his house andthey remain there until the sculptor achieves his goal in 2009.At that time, Ankara's Kızılcahamam municipality was constructinga park under the name "Martyr Fatih Duru." He applies and the mayoraccepts his application immediately. A cedar tree is going to be used.However, there is a problem. Since the 1990s, the number of deathshas reached over 6,000 and the number of tags is 3,000.He needs to get more tags in time for the park's opening ceremony andbecause of this he prefers to arrange things from Ankara; however,the bad news is that he doesn't have the Armenian craftsman's contactdetails. He goes on the Internet and in order to complete the numberof tags, he contacts merchandizers who sell military materials. Herequests tags that don't rust and gets guaranteed by the merchandizersthat the tags they are selling are the king of all tags. There islimited time... He buys the new tags for 1 Lira, which he had gottenfor 25 kuruÅ~_ from the Armenian craftsman at the time.He writes down the names of the fallen soldiers, one by one, on thetags and hangs them on the cedar's leaves... They do the openingceremony on Republic Day. Our media rushes to the event, Turkeywatches with outpouring emotions and then it is forgotten.Then comes winter time. When the rain hits the cedar's leaves, 3,000of the tags shine, while the rest rust!The sculptor remembers the Armenian craftsman's words, "This is ourduty for our country, our children should shine until eternity."Crying, the sculptor changes the tags, the tags that were guaranteedto not rust by a Turkish merchandizer.You need to learn to be a human first.It is not origins that matters, it is knowing who robbed the wholenation that matters!August/09/2014http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/pardon-him-he-is-an-armenian.aspx?pageID=449&nID=70172&NewsCatID=504 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 ծուռ նստենք, ճիշտ խոսանք... մեզանից ո՞ր մեկին, կամ մեր պետական այրերից ո՞ր մեկին թուրք ասեին, որ չջղաինանար: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 We have a very good reason for getting upset when mistaken for a Turk! What is their reason? For stealing our lands? For raping us? For killing million and a half and counting? I guess they won't rest until we're fully wiped out of this world! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Yervant jan I would be also insulted if that dog was an Armenian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Likewise! Good to hear from you. How are you doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 IT WOULD BE INSULTING FOR ARMENIANS AS WELL, IF IT TURNED OUT THAT ERDOgAN IS ARMENIAN: ARMENIA'S PRESIDENT11:09, 11 August, 2014YEREVAN, AUGUST 11, ARMENPRESS. The President of the Republic ofArmenia Serzh Sargsyan does not see anything surprising in Turkey'sapproaches, as Turkey is the country which unequivocally supportsAzerbaijan. In an interview with "Armnews" TV company, the Presidentof the Republic of Armenia Serzh Sargsyan stated this in responseto the question, that today a person is being elected in Turkey,who, in his public speech, described as an insult the version abouthis Armenian origin. The President of the Republic of Armenia SerzhSargsyan answered:"But why does Turkey's attitude surprise you. Was there any casethat Turkey expressed impartial position? Turkey is the country,which unequivocally supports Azerbaijan. In any issue. And I willreally be surprised if Mr Erdogan would express condolences to theArmenian side as well."As for Erdogan's approach, Serzh Sargsyan also thinks that there isnothing surprising about it. "And I really think that it will beinsulting for Armenians as well, if it turned out that Erdogan isan Armenian.So in this case we also must not be surprised. It is another casethat people occupying such positions must be restrained. And theyare not restrained. Turkey's position is very clear and obvious forus. We made sure in it for several times, including the negotiationson the protocols. That is why we were very attentive that no point orprovision may limit us in Karabakh negotiations in those protocols. Soeverything is simple and clear here," the President noted.http://armenpress.am/eng/news/772190/it-would-be-insulting-for-armenians-as-well-if-it-turned-out-that-erdo%C4%9Fan-is-armenian-armenias.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 ARMENIAN FURKS, or FURKISH ARMENIANS? See what Pres. Sargisian said. It would be even more insulting if he in fact were Armenian.. Հայերու Համար Ալ Վիրաւորական Կըլլար, եթէ Պարզուէր, որ Էրտողանը Հայ է. Սերժ Սարգսեան 08/11/2014Posted in: Այլեւայլ Արմնիւզ-ին տուած հարցազրոյցի ժամանակ ՀՀ նախագահ Սերժ Սարգսեան պատասխանած է այն դիտարկման, որ այսօր Թուրքիոյ մէջ այսօր կընտրուի մէկը, որ հրապարակային իր ելոյթներու ժամանակ իր հայ ըլլալու վարկածը վիրաւորանք կը համարէ: Ես կարծում եմ՝ այստեղ էլ զարմանալի ոչինչ չկայ: Եւ իրօք կարծում եմ, որ հայերի համար էլ վիրաւորական կը լինէր, եթէ յանկարծ պարզուէր, որ Էրտողանը հայ է: Այնպէս որ՝ այստեղ էլ պէտք չէ զարմանալ: Այլ բան, որ այդպիսի դիրք զբաղեցնող մարդիկ պէտք է զուսպ լինեն: Իսկ նրանք զսպուածութիւն չունեն: Թուրքիայի դիրքորոշումը մեզ համար շատ պարզ է, ակնյայտ է: Մենք դրանում քանիցս համոզուել ենք: Այդ թւում նաեւ՝ արձանագրութիւնների բանակցութիւնների ժամանակ: Դրա համար մենք շատ ուշադիր էինք՝ յանկարծ այդ արձանագրութիւններում որեւէ կէտ, որեւէ դրոյթ չլինի, որ կարող է մեզ կաշկանդել ղարաբաղեան բանակցութիւններում: Այնպէս որ՝ այստեղ ամէն ինչ պարզ եւ յստակ է»:A quote from below. See what that er-DOG-an says. Erdoğan late Sunday stressed the importance of the "citizens of Turkey." "There are 'citizens of Turkey' before Muslims, Christians, Jews, Assyrians, Yazidis [living in Turkey]. There are 'citizens of Turkey' before Alevis and Sunnis. There are 'citizens of Turkey' before Turkish, Kurdish, Arab, Laz, Georgian, Bosnian, Circassian, Romani, Pomak, Greek and Armenian,"See also this where that other clownish dog dav-IT-oglu says that today-s so called Armenian Diaspora is in fact furkish . http://www.turkishnews.com/en/content/2014/04/30/armenians-should-thank-erdogan-for-not-recognizing-the-genocide/ One such Turkish plan is Davutoglus cynical statement that the Armenian Diaspora is also Turkeys Diaspora! There have been media reports that the Turkish government is preparing to grant citizenship to the descendants of former Ottoman subjects, including Armenians. Surprisingly, some naïve Armenians are fooled into thinking that this is a positive step! Just imagine settling in one of the towns of Turkish-occupied Western Armenia or Cilicia as a citizen of Turkey, and having your sons drafted into the Turkish military to defend the Turkish nation and take part in the invasion of Kessab or Aleppo or even Armenia! How about being jailed, under article 301 of the Turkish Penal Code, because you made the mistake of speaking about the Armenian Genocide to one of your Turkish neighbors!http://www.dailysabah.com/politics/2014/08/12/erdogan-lets-rise-above-rifts-build-a-new-future ERDOĞAN: LET'S RISE ABOVE RIFTS, BUILD A NEW FUTURE ==== Speaking of insults, calling an Armenian a furk. .Not an isolated case. See #4 here http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=56171&page=1&&do=findComment&comment=312267 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Typical furkish nationalist's response to freedom seekers demand, animal!TURKEY PRESIDENT'S "GANGSTER" FRIEND THREATENS TO SLAUGHTER SCHOLARS00:04, 15.01.2016Region:TurkeyTheme: PoliticsSedat Peker, who is a convicted Turkish criminal leader and also aclose associate of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, threatenedto kill those Turkish and foreign scholars who called for makingpeace with the Kurds.Peker announced that he will slaughter all the scholars andintellectuals who are urging Erdogan to peace."So called intellectuals, the bells will first ring for you," he said."We will spill your blood and take a shower with your blood."A total of 1,128 renowned scholars and intellectuals from Turkey andabroad had signed under a text urging to make peace with the Kurds,stop their massacre in eastern Turkey, and permit commissions toenter the conflict zones.http://news.am/eng/news/306300.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted January 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 The furks are at it again after what they did to Christians now wants to do to the Kurds! They will never change it's in their DNA.TURKISH JOURNALIST URGES TO DEPORT KURDS TO SYRIA AND IRAQ BY EXAMPLE OF ARMENIANS17:45, 18.01.2016Region:TurkeyTheme: PoliticsTurkish Haberlinks website journalist and media coordinator JanBiljan urged to deport the Kurds living in eastern Turkey to Syria,Iraq and Iran.The journalist enumerated the measures necessary for the solution ofthe Kurdish issue: according to him, Kurds living in eastern Turkeyshould be deprived of state healthcare projects, social aid, stateprojects and financial aid. Biljan urged to add the powers of thepolice and soldiers, prolong and expand the ban on going out to thestreet, close their entrance to the developed regions in Turkey anddeport them to Syria, Iraq and Iran.http://news.am/eng/news/306894.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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