Anoushik Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 What an interesting discussion. How has this thread slipped my attention! Too much info to process at midnight the this caught my eyes. Aida Sargsyan is not bad, not bad at all. Are you joking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 i understand your criticism...But When you put next to them...Hamlet Gevorgyan (i have nothing agaist)...Who sings..."Jeyran" "Ghurban" "Aziz", and its easy to mix his song because the music is so similar... And Nune who sings gusanakan erger...Just sings the "great songs"... Drinking is not degrading his music...And whats wrong with singing about his city... Well It's not Armenian in character in the least. Hamlet's chosen genre is centered around the Gyumri/Alexandropol gusakan tradition, and that is perhaps why his songs sound similar in improvisation. Yet at least he is sourcing from something that is Armenian. Nune is a lounge singer who turned instant star because she sang the standard national folk repertoire that the diaspora was missing. This was the case because everywhere you could only hear Tatul, Aram Assatryan, and others copying foreign songs and singing them very very badly. Nune's timing was good, and she struck it rich for a while. No one was doing what she did at the time. What is Ruben Hakhverdian's contribution? To me nothing. His late father was a good literary critic and professor of literature. I have his papa's books here, and enjoy his insight in our "literatura," but Rubo sounds like an Armenian version of Leonard Cohen, and quite frankly that is good for a niche crowd, but does not make him a folk hero. Same with Arthus M. That's what bothers me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 What an interesting discussion. How has this thread slipped my attention! Too much info to process at midnight the this caught my eyes. Are you joking? Ur es e Anushik Jan...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 I described Meschian as I see and hear him. He sings with self-importance and arrogance. He is backed by good poets, but his music is flat, his singing style is ridiculously irritating and goatlike. Ruben Hakhverdian is a drunk who is the Leonard Cohen replica for Armenians. He is a poet of mediocre caliber whose focus is his local Yerevan neighborhood, nostalgia, nostalgia, yet more nostalgia, but he is not a great artist. We need more. We need strong stuff. Georgians are putting out good stuff. We are not. Hgop jan et du mer M@shchyani hastseyines aum et amen@ ?? lav eli Hagop du Mshchyanin ches jaanachum, barekam im yete Haxverdyani hastseyin aseyir "He sings with self-importance and arrogance" dziyn cheyi hani, sakayn Artur@ barekam im na Urish mard e, n@ra n@mannner 1000000000 mek en tsnvum ari hamadziynvi te che shvinerit vra 3 hat avel tsak kanem Maestro Mshchyanin ban chases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Hgop jan et du mer M@shchyani hastseyines aum et amen@ ?? lav eli Hagop du Mshchyanin ches jaanachum, barekam im yete Haxverdyani hastseyin aseyir "He sings with self-importance and arrogance" dziyn cheyi hani, sakayn Artur@ barekam im na Urish mard e, n@ra n@mannner 1000000000 mek en tsnvum ari hamadziynvi te che shvinerit vra 3 hat avel tsak kanem Maestro Mshchyanin ban chases Ya--- Meschyanin yes chem sirum, tsavt tanem. Im hamar edzi nman e yerkum. hargum em ir dern u dirke, bayts sahmanapakum em ir dern ir dirke vortegh vor petk e lini. Inke lavn e ir massai hamar, bayts ink@ bavararogh@, hpartutyan ararka chi. Norith nayi sa Vratschikneri arats@ u haskatsi vorteghits em galis--- http://www.hamovhotov.com/videos/?p=682 Meshyani genre-@ Shat a otaratsats im hamar, u shegum e ketits. Լաւ է, հայերենովս գրեմ-- Արթուրը ձեր սրտում իր տեղը միշտ թող ունենայ, բայց ես երբեք չեմ սիրելու այդ մոտեցումն ու վոճը, որ ինձ համար ոչ հայկական երեվոյթ է: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Ya--- Meschyanin yes chem sirum, tsavt tanem. Im hamar edzi nman e yerkum. hargum em ir dern u dirke, bayts sahmanapakum em ir dern ir dirke vortegh vor petk e lini. Inke lavn e ir massai hamar, bayts ink@ bavararogh@, hpartutyan ararka chi. Norith nayi sa Vratschikneri arats@ u haskatsi vorteghits em galis--- http://www.hamovhotov.com/videos/?p=682 Meshyani genre-@ Shat a otaratsats im hamar, u shegum e ketits. Լաւ է, հայերենովս գրեմ-- Արթուրը ձեր սրտում իր տեղը միշտ թող ունենայ, բայց ես երբեք չեմ սիրելու այդ մոտեցումն ու վոճը, որ ինձ համար ոչ հայկական երեվոյթ է: du dranst es havanel ?? iy axper jan vonstvar te teenage mutant ninja turtles linen et sev hagatsner@ gone du lav gites or drants arvesti 60~70 tokos@ mer dzerqi gortsna aper Hagop jan - aper jan Mshchyan@ na Azgagrakan arvesti nerakyatsutsich chi Barekam im , du pit Yerevan metsatsats lineyir, 1970 es kohgm vor mshchyan lseytir yev apreyir n@ranov.... Hagop jan yek jisht hamematutyun anenq.... Artur@ yergum e Qaraqayin / Shanson / qaraqakan yerger, iyo iyo qaraqakan, jamanakn na el er KGB xoshoratsuytsi tak... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 du dranst es havanel ?? iy axper jan vonstvar te teenage mutant ninja turtles linen et sev hagatsner@ Hagop jan - aper jan Mshchyan@ na Azgagrakan arvesti nerakyatsutsich chi Barekam im , du pit Yerevan metsatsats lineyir, 1970 es kohgm vor mshchyan lseytir yev apreyir n@ranov.... Hagop jan yek jisht hamematutyun anenq.... LOL Yes el ed em pordzum asem...Bayc chaem karoghanum chisht bare@ gtnel...Lriv tarber janreri baner e estegh irar hamemtvum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) You claim to be a musician, but when you favor Aida Sargsyan over Artur Meschian then you have completely discredited yourself. Edit: Spelling. Also while I'm at it, my reply is directed to Hagopn Edited November 2, 2007 by anoushik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Hagop z@gushatsir 2<>0 ogut Anushiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 du dranst es havanel ?? iy axper jan vonstvar te teenage mutant ninja turtles linen et sev hagatsner@ Hagop jan - aper jan Mshchyan@ na Azgagrakan arvesti nerakyatsutsich chi Barekam im , du pit Yerevan metsatsats lineyir, 1970 es kohgm vor mshchyan lseytir yev apreyir n@ranov.... Hagop jan yek jisht hamematutyun anenq.... Հասկանում եմ, ու համաձայնվում եմ նրան թէ Արթուրի իսկական արժեքն ինչ է: Բայց, աղբեր, մի ասա սրանք, Վրացիք, լաւ գործ չեն արել, լաւ աղբեր ջան: Առաձնային մակարտակի վրայ են: Մենք չենք ներկայացնում մեզ ոնց որ իրենք են անում: Եւ գիտե՞ս ովքեր են երգում: Կախեթեիա-ի երգչախումբը, որոնց դիմագծերից արդեն հասկացվում է սրանց ՀԱՅ ծագում ունենալը: Առասպել են նկարել երգով, աղբեր ջան, ու հայկական մշակոյթն էլ մխրճել են եջը իրենց անունի տակ: Մանացածը որ շատ են աստղացվում, շեղում են: Ներկայացվում են որպես «ագային արվեստ», իհակառակա քո ասածին, ու վնաս է բերում դա: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Hagop jan hamperi axper jan hamperi qihc mnat s 2 milyon el havaqem tes te inch Azgagrakan Pari yev Gortsiqneri Ansambl em himmnelu che katak@ mek koghm amen inch ir jamanak@ uni, hamperi lav e linelu heto el inchu ches handipum ?? mi mi bajak Tey k@xmenq arvestits k@xosenq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 You claim to be a musician, but when you favor Aida Sargsyan over Artur Meschian then you have completely discredited yourself. Edit: Spelling. Also while I'm at it, my reply is directed to Hagopn Dear friend, you misunderstand me. I don't compare Aida Sargsyan's personality, intellect, poetry, or any other facet of Aida Sargsyan to Arthur Meschian. I compare the presentation of her songs in the very well made videoclips, and her choice of repertiore, which is Armenian folk. Yes, it is Armenian folk. Her video director is a phenomenal talent named Hrand Movsesyan, and his work in our folk genre is amazingly rich and siverse. Yet, he does not get attention or the budget because he chooses to gto the folk route for the most part. Arthur Meschian was not necessarily compared in any term except his choice of a genre. His style of singing is irrelevant and weak, but his focus and the niche audience he has have earned him respect and success. Of course, this was mainly done with help from a phenomenal poet named Mushegh Ishkhan in the heyday of the Arakyalner. This is where he got his hot spot, his limelight, with Mushegh Ishkhan at his side, and after that he has maintained a loyal following but has not gained popularity. Intellectually, I wouldn't dare compare Arthus Meschian with Aida. They are worlds apart, with Artur clearly on the elite side, but, yet again I say, Artur is himself, but he is not Armenian culture or civilization. He is at most a very political moment thanks to his poet friends who were indeed good poets. My critique is in or lack of presentation of Armenian culture. It is aimed at the fact that Armenians have an incredibly rich reservoire of culture, but they do not present it to the world with enough competence and beauty. This is a civilization that, in my opinion, goes back at least 4700 years of advanced development, but the best we can do is what we have now? Nonsense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Hagop jan hamperi axper jan hamperi qihc mnat s 2 milyon el havaqem tes te inch Azgagrakan Pari yev Gortsiqneri Ansambl em himmnelu che katak@ mek koghm amen inch ir jamanak@ uni, hamperi lav e linelu heto el inchu ches handipum ?? mi mi bajak Tey k@xmenq arvestits k@xosenq աստված 200 միլիոն Եվրո տայ, աղբե՜ր Հավատա ամեն որ փորձում եմ ձեւ գտնել որ գամ, բայց չի ստացվում: Հիմա օրինակ գրում եմ ու server upgradeներ եմ անում-- նրա համար է որ գրելու հավես ունեմ մի քանի որ: Մի վախեցի, կանգնելու եմ շուտով:-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 HAgop de gna mi you tube yev haykakan Pares search ara tesnem hesa yerexeqs qnits helnelu en / es Zurna d@holi dzenist / et jamana el dzerqitsts ches prtsni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 LOL Yes el ed em pordzum asem...Bayc chaem karoghanum chisht bare@ gtnel...Lriv tarber janreri baner e estegh irar hamemtvum... This is misleading. I am not comparing artists to each other who happen to be in different genres. I am comparing the value of the work of some in national culture, versus others. Contrary to subsequent responses I get from these forums, ruben, Arthur, etc are falsely represented in our media outlets as «զտարյուն հայկական» բլա բլա: For example, another Rubenoid/Arthuroid guitar "chansonist" named Armen Movsisyan was only recently presented to television audiences as «զտարյուն հայկանա արվեստի ներկայացուցիչ» եըայլն: I agree with you that the works of these singers, Arthur M, Ruben H, and so on are not intended to be Armenian artforms. They are their own individual choice of genre, their own chosen manner of preseneting their poetry, their պատրանք, in Rubo's case a local Yerevan nostalgic yearning kind of deal, and in Artur an outdated political moment that he keeps on trying to revive. This works for a small minority to have their moment of poetry, of inspiration, of politically atavistic moments, but they are only ever going to reach their niche audeinces. Aida is a folk singer. She was not so folksy, and later she discovered (after talking to me and musician friends), that she needs to change her ways--- She did, and she became somewhat of a success, but, again, her contribution is at least minimal in the folk genre. I don't consider her as "phenomenal," and, as I have said, I don't compare her to Arthur at the personality, talent, or individual level. That would be folly. I compare them only in terms of their genres and the degree of relevance to the quest of presenting ARMENIAN culture to the world. Personally, I wouldn't present Aida to the world, but I would most definitely present the man who directs and produces her videos, Hrand Movsesyan. He is really good, really good, and as the matter of fact Hrand M's work was the focus and reason I brought Aida to the table. ironically, it was not necessarily Aida herself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 I don't compare Aida Sargsyan's personality, intellect, poetry, or any other facet of Aida Sargsyan to Arthur Meschian. I compare the presentation of her songs in the very well made videoclips, and her choice of repertiore, which is Armenian folk. Yes, it is Armenian folk. Her video director is a phenomenal talent named Hrand Movsesyan, and his work in our folk genre is amazingly rich and siverse. Yet, he does not get attention or the budget because he chooses to gto the folk route for the most part. It never did occur to me that you were comparing them in ways other then their music. But now that you also brought in videoclips of Aida Sargsyan I have to say that I have objections about that as well. As soon as I read "Aida Sargsyan" today in this forum "Lorke" popped in my head. And it's still there after forty minutes! And no, it's not good! My dislike of "Lorke" is not the song itself but the annoying voice of Sargsyan. That's why it's irritating having her voice stuck in my head for close to an hour. I better go listen to Norah Jones soon to remedy myself. And about the music videos, I don't like it either. Even if her genre is folk, what's 50's Soviet peasant clothing got to do with modern Armenian life? Why the constant confusion of time periods that we see in virtually all Armenian music videos and not only in Sargsyans? And confusion of costumes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Hagop jan Iy Par@ espesa linum http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcykRzdUqbA Vayelir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 ... I compare them only in terms of their genres and the degree of relevance to the quest of presenting ARMENIAN culture to the world. I'm all for presenting Armenian culture to the world! I agree with you, we really need to do that. But please, don't present Armenian culture as comprising of old, parrav villagers or Kurds who are still leading backward lives and haven't caught up with any technology yet. Because that's what those music videos show. Can you show me a music video where we get to see young, modern Armenian people? We are not a dead people, people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) Hagop jan Iy Par@ espesa linum http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcykRzdUqbA Vayelir I've seen this before and love this video. Now this is showing our culture, in a manner that makes complete sense, but not when videos of supposed Armenian folk songs show old people wearing grandma clothing of the 50's with their hair wrapped, sitting in a corner street in a village with goats in the background. Edited November 2, 2007 by anoushik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) Hagop jan Iy Par@ espesa linum http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcykRzdUqbA Vayelir լաւ, արդեն գիտեմ ինձ չես սիրելու Սկսեմնրանով որ մշակումը սինթեզային եֆեկտների և զուռնայի վրա է նստած: պարային րիթմ չի հնչում: Չկա: Կորել է սինթեզի տակ: Ինձնից աւել քոչարի սիրող ու պարող քիչ կճարես, բայց սրա տակ ես չեմ կարա պարել: Ոչ թե չեմ ուզենա; Չեմ կարա, քանի որ ինձ չի տանում այնտեղ, որտեղ պարն է ուզում տանել: Աւելորդ սինկոպներ են դրել, ու խեղդել են շարժումը «զարմացնելու» միտումով: Զուռնաները մի տեղ սաստիկ ձեւի ծուր նոտա են պահել, ու երկար են պահել: Նկարահանումը չոր, դեղնած, թարամած խոտի վրա է, քարքարոտ մի փոքր բլուրի ստորոտում: Ոչ հիացնող է, ոչ ներշնչանքի պատճառ: Պարողների նկարահանումը ֆոկուսից դուրս է շատ ժամանակ: Չարժումները ու պարը անհասկանալի, ազդեցությունը թույլ: Ես սա չեի ներկայացնոի ածշխարհին: Հետ գնում եմ վրացկանին, տեսնում եմ հստակ սցենար, հստակ նկարահանում, հստակ երգեցողութիւն, հստակ ձայնագրություն, ւ այլն: Իհարկե ես նախընտրում եմ քոչարի: Ես ազգայնամօլ մարդ եմ-- բայց ես ուզում եմ որ վրացիներից լավ անենք: Ու գիտեմ որ կարող ենք անել, բայց դեռ չենք արել: Կնեերես, աղբերս, բայց դա է իմ կարծիքը: Պար սիրում եմ; Պարողներին սիրում եմ: Գործը չսրիեցի: Նպատակը շատ սիրեցի: Edited November 2, 2007 by hagopn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 I'm all for presenting Armenian culture to the world! I agree with you, we really need to do that. But please, don't present Armenian culture as comprising of old, parrav villagers or Kurds who are still leading backward lives and haven't caught up with any technology yet. Because that's what those music videos show. Can you show me a music video where we get to see young, modern Armenian people? We are not a dead people, people! Thank you for your input. It is valuable because you are young and energetic, and you are right. Youth, energy, vitality, this is what brings about culture, but also tradition, wisdom, heroism, memory, respect, color, beauty, land, people, nature... These are all our culture, and we have a damn good one. My main point of concern is the lack production quality, quality, and more quality. To see my point, (in case you have not) look at this video as it is intended to be a preseentation of a legend, a folk tale, a story where children are opening a Heroic story of warrior, beautiful princesses, and so on http://www.hamovhotov.com/videos/?p=682 All jokes aside, if you want dancing girls and young men jumping around, there are lots and lots of those videos, but they are cheap pop videos. If you are, however, asking for a fresh, vibrant genuinly ARMENIAN cultural presentation, then, yes, that's what I want too. That is precisely the reason I started with the Kohar critique. You are right, very correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 It never did occur to me that you were comparing them in ways other then their music. But now that you also brought in videoclips of Aida Sargsyan I have to say that I have objections about that as well. As soon as I read "Aida Sargsyan" today in this forum "Lorke" popped in my head. And it's still there after forty minutes! And no, it's not good! My dislike of "Lorke" is not the song itself but the annoying voice of Sargsyan. That's why it's irritating having her voice stuck in my head for close to an hour. I better go listen to Norah Jones soon to remedy myself. And about the music videos, I don't like it either. Even if her genre is folk, what's 50's Soviet peasant clothing got to do with modern Armenian life? Why the constant confusion of time periods that we see in virtually all Armenian music videos and not only in Sargsyans? And confusion of costumes? Ah, we are in violent agreement on the tone of her voice--- My wifes make me shut the volume and watch her video with minimm volume--- LOL. The confusion of times and costume.... HMMMM. -- Well, that is an interesting angle. Sure, the scene is a rustic one, one that attempts to take you back in time, showing a young couple in courtship, then in the next song in engagement, then in the next song in a wedding, and then the lullaby shows the same couple with a baby in a swaddle being lulled to sleep. I personally understand his intent, and I like his skills in cinematography. You don't agree with the chosen setting. You are certainly entitled to want a more modern setting. He has another video that is about a contemporary couple in the city, in ann urban setting, and the singer, Aida, reminisces her own love in the past.. It's a mini movie or a sort, and it works for me. The song is nice as well, slow "estrada" style of Artem Ayvazyan sort. I personally like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 լաւ, արդեն գիտեմ ինձ չես սիրելու Սկսեմնրանով որ մշակումը սինթեզային եֆեկտների և զուռնայի վրա է նստած: պարային րիթմ չի հնչում: Չկա: Կորել է սինթեզի տակ: Ինձնից աւել քոչարի սիրող ու պարող քիչ կճարես, բայց սրա տակ ես չեմ կարա պարել: Ոչ թե չեմ ուզենա; Չեմ կարա, քանի որ ինձ չի տանում այնտեղ, որտեղ պարն է ուզում տանել: Աւելորդ սինկոպներ են դրել, ու խեղդել են շարժումը «զարմացնելու» միտումով: Զուռնաները մի տեղ սաստիկ ձեւի ծուր նոտա են պահել, ու երկար են պահել: Նկարահանումը չոր, դեղնած, թարամած խոտի վրա է, քարքարոտ մի փոքր բլուրի ստորոտում: Ոչ հիացնող է, ոչ ներշնչանքի պատճառ: Պարողների նկարահանումը ֆոկուսից դուրս է շատ ժամանակ: Չարժումները ու պարը անհասկանալի, ազդեցությունը թույլ: Ես սա չեի ներկայացնոի ածշխարհին: Հետ գնում եմ վրացկանին, տեսնում եմ հստակ սցենար, հստակ նկարահանում, հստակ երգեցողութիւն, հստակ ձայնագրություն, ւ այլն: Իհարկե ես նախընտրում եմ քոչարի: Ես ազգայնամօլ մարդ եմ-- բայց ես ուզում եմ որ վրացիներից լավ անենք: Ու գիտեմ որ կարող ենք անել, բայց դեռ չենք արել: Կնեերես, աղբերս, բայց դա է իմ կարծիքը: Պար սիրում եմ; Պարողներին սիրում եմ: Գործը չսրիեցի: Նպատակը շատ սիրեցի: Hagop jan & yes amen@ du grum es vratsakan par@ goveluts heto ?? aper mi hat et vratsakan@ norits nayi voch ritm ka voch el et yerg@ b@rnuma / hamapatasxanuam et pari het - yergi ritm@ et pari hamar chi / da remixsa incha chem haskanum. yete im post arats pari mej Ardi Gortsiqner kayin, v@ratsakanum hamarya te amen inch@ Ardi gortsiqavorum er, axper jan mi hat ushadir nayi im qochariin el ban chases Parets Sasunn, u voghj ashxar@ hiatsav, Parets Sasunn, u voght ashxar@ haskatsav, Vor yerb nazum en aghjiknern u kranum - Sasna dzorits jur en berum, art qaghanum Yerb votqi tak tghaneri hoghn e tndum Hotaghner@ Sasna sarum gayl en xeghdum Yerb xrnvum - kartses amprop payti sarum - Ayd vosoxn e nrants gyuher@ *****rum Yerb mianum - berd en darnum shinvats qarits - Ayd vosoxin yet en qshum Andok sarits. Isk yerb dzerq@ dzerqin zarkum, tsap en talis - Mahvan vihits depi kyanqi ap en galis... Parets Sasunn, u voghj ashxar@ hiatsav, Parets Sasunn, u voght ashxar@ haskatsav, Vor par che sa, ayl mi yerkri qaj patmutyun, Ur partutyunn angam uni hpartutyun, Yev chi haghti vochinch ayn hin joghovrdin, Vor ays janqov, U ays kamqov Parel giti... Haskatsan u asin i lur voghj ashxari, -Halal e qez, Sasun, pari... Pari, Du der yeraz unes katarelu, Vrej unes patmutyunits der hanelu. Pari, Gazpan der qo dzerqin e karotum, Sasna hogh@ var u harki e karotum: Pari, Minchev voghj hayerin du ambares, Yev ays par@ Masis leran lanjin pares... Gevorg Emin 1957 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 (edited) Hagop jan & yes amen@ du grum es vratsakan par@ goveluts heto ?? aper mi hat et vratsakan@ norits nayi voch ritm ka voch el et yerg@ b@rnuma / hamapatasxanuam et pari het - yergi ritm@ et pari hamar chi / da remixsa incha chem haskanum. yete im post arats pari mej Ardi Gortsiqner kayin, v@ratsakanum hamarya te amen inch@ Ardi gortsiqavorum er, axper jan mi hat ushadir nayi im qochariin el ban chases Մովսես, աղբեր, մի հարվածով ամեն ծիտ չեմ կարող սպաննել: Remix չէ, բայց արդիականացվւած րիթմով է: Հաջողում է, քանի որ երգի հետ, այո, բռնում է: Սա առանց րիթմի ու գործիքավորմամբ, ա կապելլա երգեցողություն է որի վրա, այս անգամ, ճիշտ արագութեամբ ու ճաշակով րիթմ են դրել: Իմ նախընտրած վոճը չէ, իհարկե, բայց աշխատում է: Խայտառակ ոչ մի բան չկա, ու երգը խեղտդող ոչ մի բան չկա: Ամեն ինչ արդիական չէ: Իրենք իրենց տղամարտկանց ակապելլա, արանց գործիքավորմամբ, երգի վոճը արդեն մատուցել են աշխարհին: դա այս տեսահոլովակի մեջ չի կորել: Ընդհակարակը՝ լավ է ներկայացվել: Ավելորդ սինթեզային ձայներ, ժխոր ու աղմուկ չկա: Իրանց րիթմիկ գործերն են լավ ձեվով ներկայացնում: Անում են, աղբեր, անում են: Ես իրենց մշակոթային արմատը հայկականից ցաձր եմ համարում, իրականում: Իրենց երգացանկը, իրենց շարադրանքը, անհամամետատելիօրեն ավելի թւոյլ է, բայց իրենք վաճառում են իրենցը լավ ձեվի: Թեմա ունի, եւ սցենար. Հարուստ ներկայացում, լերնային սցենարի վրայ, ու հաջողեել են առասպելական վիճակ ստեղծելու գործում: Ինջեւից է, շատ լավ նայվում է, ու համաշխարհային մակարտակի վրա է: Edited November 3, 2007 by hagopn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 Hagop, ba es mekin inch kases barekam? de parzapes mez hayen asum menq mez voch mekits chenq geradasum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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