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Erdogan’s policy on Syria counterproductive
Aug 25, 2013

By Prof. Rodney Shakespeare

 

Turkey’s policy is being smashed apart. It has no depth, no vision, no principle and no morality. It is not just a case of muddle or a failure of cynical opportunism. Rather, it is something which is completely inexplicable without there having been some sort of big bribe (probably of the “We will make you the regional big-wig” variety) for Erdogan, the Prime Minister.

Turkey had a clear, simple policy - be friends with all neighbors. It was a very sensible policy and, as a result, Turkey was able to build its economic and political strength and was increasingly being recognized as a regional leader. (Remember the deal arranged between Turkey, Brazil and Iran over 20% uranium enrichment which made Obama look like a fool, as he is?)

Importantly, Turkey was also seen as a successful example of how Islam and politics can integrate in a modern way.

But now look what has happened! History has many examples of countries, led by incompetent prime ministers, shooting themselves in the foot. However, in the case of Turkey, it’s an instance of shooting itself in both feet.....

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The Defeat of Turkish foreign policy on the Arab World

 

‘Turkey will never rule Arab World’ – Egypt’s FM
August 23, 2013
http://rt.com/news/egypt-fahmy-minister-interview-865/

 

A non-Arab state, like Turkey, can’t rule the Arab World, Egypt’s interim foreign minister, Nabil Fahmy, told RT Arabic in an exclusive interview, calling Ankara’s ambitions to restore the Ottoman Empire groundless due to failed relations with neighbors.
....Fahmy criticized Turkey and the Islamist government of prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan for their backing of the Muslin Brotherhood rule in Egypt.

 

Erdogan’s Justice and Development Party (AKP) “is afraid that if the ideas of political Islam will fail in the region, it’ll has [have] a negative impact on its own position within Turkey,” he explained.

 

The minister also believes that the Turkish plan to recreate the Ottoman Empire of 1299-1923 and take the leading position in the Arab World has no grounds in it.

 

“A non-Arab state can’t head the Arab Islamic world,” Fahmy said, adding that Turkish foreign policy, which was previously highly appreciated, is now “suffering a defeat”.

 

“It’s clear that Turkey currently has bad relations with all of its neighboring countries,” he stressed. "Thus, Turkey can’t become the head of the Islamic World at the present stage because of its failed foreign policy and lack of capacity to play a leading role in the region.”

 

The cooling of relations between the two countries recently led to cancellation of joint military drills, but Fahmy noted that “in the long term, neither Egypt nor Turkey are interested in their relationship being spoiled.”
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Turkey no longer plays as mediator in Middle East : Bill Jones
Aug 25, 2013
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/08/23/320106/turkey-no-longer-a-mediator-in-me/

 

Press TV has conducted an interview with Bill Jones, from the Executive Intelligence Review, about Turkey’s current foreign policy. What follows is an approximate transcription of the interview.

Press TV: The Turkish Prime Minister has come out strongly against the coup that happened in Egypt and one of the things that the Turkish Prime Minister has said he has linked Israel to the coup in Egypt.

Of course they backtracked a little bit from that but do you think that this is going to affect the ties between Turkey and the US?

And I say that because we are looking at the reaction by the US and they have come out pretty strong saying, strongly condemning Erdogan’s remarks, they used words like “offensive, unsubstantiated and wrong” to describe these accusations?

 

Jones: Well I think that certainly will affect the US-Turkey relations. Mind you that there was a divided opinion; we are working with a dividing government even within the same administration with regard to the whole situation in Egypt.

Obama had given his implicit and also in many respects explicit support when President Morsi was elected and then Morsi started moving in the direction of not bringing in other parties but in making a rather hard line Islamist regime and then there was some concern on the US side of what was going on.
And when all the demonstrations came up of course there were people who felt that maybe this Morsi administration was not the best thing and therefore when there was this move on the part of the defense officials, the army in Egypt, they kind of looked the other way trying to get a negotiated solution but not condemning outright.

But of course there is difference in opinion between on one hand state and the DOD (the Department of Defense) and on the other hand the National Security advisors, people like Miss Rice and now Ms Power at the United Nations something of the killer angels I call them of the Obama regime who probably want a much tougher line on Egypt.

So there is not unity of purpose with regard to this but there has been a reaction against Turkey because there is that disunity within the US government to President Mohamed [Morsi] and I don't think it will destroy relations with Turkey but it's going to be an annoying moment for him.

 

Press TV: Let’s look at the report card Bill Jones, I mean our guest there talked about it a little bit when it comes to initiating his foreign policy with the motto “zero problems with neighbors” obviously that it is not working.

But let’s look at what has happened regarding Egypt. They are not engaged with Egypt right now because of what has happened, distanced themselves from the Arab neighbors, they are not engaged with the Israeli-Palestinian process, peace process, are they?

And of course we know how they are in regards to Syria which has turned out pretty much into a less than positive relationship with Iran. So it has just paid off the directives in the direction that Prime Minister Erdogan has taken Turkey?

 

Jones: I think not. I think Turkey has suffered a lot in the change in policy that they had. They played a major role as a mediator in variety of crisis in the Middle East. They were on their way to becoming a major player in the region but I think this has really undermined them in a very significant way.

The Syrian operation of course which they have been given full support of, has created a tinderbox in the entire region which could light a fire, which would be hard for anybody to put out.

Turkey has already suffered I think significantly economically. They were one of the most prosperous countries in the region. I think they suffered incredibly because of that and I think whatever the goals of Mr. Erdogan in shifting policy in this way, I think it has discredited Turkey as any kind of a mediator in the conflict.

They have become a party to the conflicts instead of a mediator in the conflicts and I think they will suffer themselves also in terms of Syrian operation, the Kurdish unrest is going to become worse as a result to this and I see no upsides to the direction that the Turkish government has taken recently.

 

Press TV: And aside from that Bill Jones, it is kind of ironic that Turkey as a whole when the so-called Arab Spring started was said to be this role model and of course Turkey and Prime Minister Erdogan they have promoted democracy in the Arab region and then what happened, they hit a brick wall when it came down to the protests that happened inside Turkey, these protests breaking on their own country which then drew condemnations almost immediately from two of the areas that Turkey wants to warm up to, at least be really accepted and that’s what, the United States and the European Union?

 

Jones: Yes it is clear that the Turkish model no longer stands as a model of collaboration, cooperation among people of different political views and religious views which it was at one point.

The fact that they supported the Morsi regime at a point in time when there was increasing public dissent with that regime and I personally believe that the country was indeed headed towards civil war and then when the military stepped in, I think it was also somewhat blatantly but at a point in time where they believe that there would have been clashes and civil war in Egypt, so in one sense that was saved up.

 

The situation is still very tenuous and still very uncertain but why Turkey would want to directly get embroiled is still something of mystery to me because it has been very detrimental to their own position in the world and I think they've obviously made a lot of enemies or caused a lot of dissent and concern from including the United States which has been a very strong ally of Turkey.

I don't think it's irreparable damage but it is a very situation of turmoil existing in the area thanks to the attitude taken by Turkey and at the moment I think the relations are going to remain for a time rather chilly until a lot of this clears up.
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Turkish foreign policy with the zero problems with its neighbors is over: Turkey does not have now ambassadors, in addition to Armenia, also in Israel, Egypt, and in Syria.
"The problem is Prime Minister Erdogan is considering Hamas, Egypt and the Syrian issue [plus Armenia's war with Azers] as a Turkish domestic issue and this is very dangerous in the long run.

Turkey’s foreign policy on Syria a failure: Huseyn Bagci
25 Aug 2013
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/08/23/320065/turkey-foreign-policy-on-syria-a-failure/

 

Press TV has conducted an interview with Huseyn Bagci, a professor at the Middle East University in Ankara, to discuss Turkey’s current stance on the developments unfolding in Syria.

Press TV: It’s been two years, let’s do a reality check here. Why did Turkey decide to go for regime change in neighboring country Syria? This for the first time, the foreign policy, did they get in return what they wanted? Has this gamble paid off for them?

 

Bagci: I think the foreign policy in Syria has been [a matter of] miscalculation, in your question you put rightly what went wrong.

Turkey was supporting the Syrian reform process in the last 10 years and just after this Arab Spring, the Turkish-Syrian relations crumbled down and probably after Libya’s event, Turkey was thinking that Turkey should be in front, ahead of these developments and was thinking that the Syrian regime would collapse immediately, which was a mistake, and I think in the last three years we can only speak about the failure of Turkish foreign policy in the Syrian case to be realistic.

On the other hand, Turkey was trying to have a type of policy, the values in general, should be applied and Turkey was supporting the opposition forces in Syria, which created a lot of problems for Turkey now domestically, not only more than 400,000 Syrians fled to Turkey, but also the Turkish border which is more than 900 kilometers, is very difficult to control and Turkey is experiencing very unprecedented, I will say, developments in the long run. So, in Turkish domestic politics, the government is strongly criticized for the Syrian policy.

There is still no support for the government’s policy in Syria and now with all these developments in Egypt also, Turkey is more and more, getting along, if you want, in the region. Also, left not only by some Arab countries like Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Jordan, etc., but also by the United States of America, because of these Israeli accusations by the Turkish Prime Minister [Recep Tayyip Erdogan] behind the Egyptian advance, Turkey is there. I think suddenly Turkey was the rising star in the Middle East in the last 10 years, but now this rising star is getting in a lot of trouble and we can only say that the loneliness of Turkey is the reality of today.

 

Press TV: I’m going to ask you a very simple question. Who needs who more? Turkey needs the United States more or the United States needs Turkey more?

 

Bagci: In this case, Turkey needs the United States more. You have been talking about a possible shift in Turkish foreign policy. I mean, a shift into what? To what direction? With the European Union, Turkey is going to have more difficulties. There is a lot of credibility. With the Arab countries Turkey is also having different policies in the case of Egypt. With Israel, Turkey is in a way, in conflict with the United States of America.

If Turkey is entering into a conflict with the United States, Turkey is going to do a big mistake. I would not suggest to the government to go into confrontation with the United States of America.

Turkey cannot look to the north, to Russia. So Turkey will only look inward and this is not good for Turkey. Turkey should be a global player, not an inward-looking country closing herself outside and being in conflict with all the neighboring countries. This is not healthy.

The US is a strategic partner of Turkey. Of course the United States of America needs Turkey for certain policies in a regional and global sense, but America is the leader of the world at the moment and part of the United Nations Security Council. So there cannot be any decision taken against the will of the United States of America.

 

Press TV: Let me ask you this. What was wrong with zero problems with neighbors? What was wrong with that foreign policy? I mean, Turkey was known to be a somewhat, before what happened to Syria, kind of like a mediator. You know, bridging the gap between the East and the West. We noticed that in particular when it came to Iran and the Tehran nuclear deal, Turkey was an active player on that and the United States and the West was looking to Turkey. What was wrong with that stance of zero problems with neighbors?

 

Bagci: I would say it is the Arab Spring responsible for this. The Arab Spring created such an environment that Turkey had to change the direction and hoping that those Arab countries would democratize themselves, but that was not totally the case.

So, Turkey had in the entire last decade, very good relations with the entire Arab leaders, authoritarian Arab leaders. And about the policies, zero problems with neighboring countries, was good on the paper but not good on the field after the Arab Spring.

I think the Turkish foreign policy with the zero problems will not function anymore and this is the biggest disappointment of my dear colleague Turkish Foreign Minister Mr. Ahmet Davutoglu.

 

Press TV: Do you think Turkey is in the process of reversing its foreign policy direction or backtracking a little bit and trying to make sure that it is going to keep its borders with its neighbors more cordial in the way it deals with it?

 

Bagci: I think it will depend on whether Turkish prime minister Erdogan is going to choose the policy of confrontation with Israel and the United States of America. It would be very difficult in order to include Saudi Arabia. If Turkey is going to have three countries as potential enemies or not partners, then it will have some difficulties. I think the US is still global player, Turkey is really supporting [ousted Egyptian President Mohamed] Morsi and Ikhwan [Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood] and this is the Turkish prime minister was calling back the Turkish ambassador. Now we do not have any ambassador in Egypt. Turkey does not have three ambassadors in Israel, Egypt, and in Syria. And those three countries have been the countries where Turkey had been negotiating, mediating, just a couple of years ago.

So, Turkey is now in a really, foreign policy turbulence. I think Tayyip Erdogan’s insistence to continue to have this policy in Egypt to support Morsi is fine from an ethical point of view, from the moral point of view, but is not acceptable from a realistic point of view. It is an Egyptian problem and Turkey cannot change the regime. Turkey cannot intervene there. Turkey is overextending and showing overself-confidence in the region. And I think this is not good for Turkish prime minister.

The Turkish prime minister is now alone. I underline this so nobody is supporting him. Even Hamas was talking the neutrality in the case of Egypt. Turkey is the only country among the Islamic conference. This is something wrong. There is no explanation of Tayyip Erdogan’s foreign policy insisting on this mistake. The Egyptian’s democracy is not a Turkish problem. It should not be a domestic problem for Turkey. The problem is Prime Minister Erdogan is considering Hamas, Egypt and the Syrian issue as a Turkish domestic issue and this is very dangerous in the long run.

 

Press TV: I need to ask you this, because there are some questions surrounding it. You know there was a press conference that Prime Minister Erdogan had with [uS President] Barack Obama outside the White House lawn. This is going back a month or two months ago. I remember distinctly when Erdogan was talking about relationship between Turkey and the United States, and there’s some analysts who have come out and said Turkey went there with one of the primary goals being that it wanted the US to intervene in Syria and there was so much talk about this no-fly zone happening. Do you think that there were false promises given by the United States, even up to this day, that we are going to go in, let’s say through a no-fly zone and that’s why Erdogan is sticking his neck out and his country’s neck out for the situation in Syria?

 

Bagci: Yes, I think you’re right. And your analysis is also right. The prime minister was speaking just two days ago in a way that why then did the West want us to get involved in Syria. That means he considers himself now manipulated, speculated, and even betrayed, if you want, by the United States of America.

This is also the anger of the Turkish prime minister in his recent statements towards the US. But America is not interested to intervene in Syria because it costs a lot... They have Afghanistan and Iraq experience and even in American public there would be no yes for any new involvement in Syria, because China, Iran, and Russia are supporting, backing, of course, Syria, including India I would say, many people forget about India who is also silent on this. Why Bashar al-Assad is supported is this. Because Bashar al-Assad is representing now the fight of the secular forces in the Middle East against the radical Islamists.

With the developments in Egypt, there is a general tendency in the West to think that the radical Islamists do not have any interest to live in a democratic country, but they want to establish a state of religion, a Sharia state. So, the West is changing the position now, because democracy is the product, the social product of the West and they are interested that the democracy is suffering under this radical movements and exactly for this reason General el-Sisi in Egypt and Bashar al-Assad in Syria are supported also by these non-Western civilizations, India, China, even I could include here Russia. So, Bashar al-Assad is getting stronger in the United Nations they will be no support against him and the United States of America will not intervene in the Middle East because of this. I can say President Barack Obama cannot dare to intervene there.
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Those supporting radical Islamists and their revolution are USA, France, England and Israel, in addition to Turkey under Erdogan. While Russia, China, India and other non-Western civilizations, and now Egypt and Syria under Assad, are fighting those radical Islamists. Russia and the rest of the non-Western countries are rightly thinking that the West is committing suicide, and they are on the wrong-path of self-destruction, a self-destruction that can materialize in the coming years if not in the next decade. The wisdom of the East would have triumphed over the stupidity of the West. While the West self-destruct the East rises, this is the point of view of the East in regard to the west and its 100% correct one not only of POV but where the affairs of the world are heading. The Western leaders have made holes in their own ship of the West, and the world will laugh at them while watching how the West goes underwater not to rise ever again.

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How Turkey Went From 'Zero Problems' to Zero Friends
By Piotr Zalewski
http://www.foreignpolicy.com
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Posted GMT 8-22-2013 18:38:27
http://www.aina.org/news/20130822133827.htm
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Not so long ago, Turkey seemed to have found the elusive formula for
foreign policy success. Its newly-adopted philosophy, "zero problems
with neighbors," won praise both at home and abroad as Ankara
reengaged with the Middle East following a half century of
estrangement. It expanded business and trade links with Arab states,
as well as Iran, lifted visa restrictions with neighboring countries,
and even helped mediate some of the region's toughest disputes,
brokering talks between Syria and Israel, Fatah and Hamas, and
Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Just a few years later, in the wake of the Arab Spring and its
aftermath, that once-reliable formula is starting to look like
alchemy. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has now burned his
bridges with the military regime in Egypt, squabbled with Gulf
monarchies for refusing to stand by deposed Egyptian President Mohamed
Morsy, and started a war of words with Israel for having a hand in the
coup that removed Morsy from power.

For a fleeting moment, Egypt was the centerpiece of Turkey's foreign
policy in the Arab world. When Erdogan visited Cairo in September
2011, after the revolution that toppled Hosni Mubarak, he arrived to a
hero's welcome, feted not only as the first major world leader to call
on him to step down but as a regional power broker. That has now all
changed: Turkey and Egypt pulled their ambassadors from each country
amidst the dispute, and Erdogan publicly slammed the new government in
Cairo. "Either Bashar [al-Assad] or [Egyptian army chief Abdel Fattah
al-Sisi], there is no difference between them," he said last week. "I
am saying that state terrorism is currently underway in Egypt."

This week, Erdogan dragged Israel into the dispute, saying that Israel
was "behind" the coup in Cairo. The evidence for this perfidy, his
office would later confirm, was a 2011 video of former Israeli Foreign
Minister Tzipi Livni and French philosopher Bernard-Henri Levy
discussing the Arab Spring.

Former Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman shot back at Erdogan
on Wednesday, saying that "everyone who hears [Erdogan's] hateful
words and incitement understands beyond a doubt that he follows in the
footsteps of Goebbels." Not to be outdone, an Egyptian government
spokesman slammed Erdogan as a "Western agent."

Such disputes have left Turkey watchers wondering if Erdogan's
bombastic approach is undermining his effectiveness. "Turkey did the
right thing" by deploring the Egyptian coup, a former high-ranking
Turkish diplomat told me, but found itself "on the wrong side of the
international community."

Ankara should have thrown its weight around well before the Muslim
Brotherhood was ousted from power, the diplomat added. "Turkey put too
much emphasis on the success story of democracy in Egypt and did not
see properly the wrong things that were being done by the Morsy
regime."

The truth of the matter is that it was always only a matter of time
before Turkey's heralded "zero problems" policy foundered. Having zero
problems meant keeping your nose out of other countries' domestic
affairs, and even cozying up to regional strongmen. That was possible
so long as the regional status quo held: Turkey kept mum on
post-election violence in Iran in 2009, for instance, and nurtured an
alliance with Syria's Assad before the bloody revolt in that country.
And in Libya, Erdogan had been only too happy to ignore Muammar
al-Qaddafi's dismal human rights record, if that was the price to pay
for Turkish businessmen to ink construction deals with his regime.

By blowing the regional status quo into oblivion, the Arab Spring
forced Turkey out of this policy of non-interference. Ankara has
struggled with the notion that it could not bend the region to its
will: In Libya, before it ended up helping unseat Qaddafi, Turkey
argued that the West had no business intervening against him. In
Syria, it has broken completely with Assad, embroiling itself in a
conflict that shows no sign of ending. And in Egypt, of course, it is
setting itself on a collision course with the most populous state in
the Arab world.

The extent to which Turkey has since ditched its softly-softly
approach to the region has been surprising. One of the commandments of
"zero problems" was what Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu referred to
as "equidistance" -- that is, the refusal to take sides in regional
disputes. This was always something of a myth, particularly when it
came to the Israeli-Palestine dispute, where the government seldom
missed a chance to bolster its regional and Islamic credentials by
slighting the Israelis. But in the wake of the Arab Spring,
equidistance appears to have gone into the gutter.

It's not only in Egypt where Turkey is now seen as a partisan actor,
rather than a neutral problem-solver. In Iraq, it has openly defied
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's government, accusing it of fomenting
sectarian strife and going behind its back to negotiate oil deals with
the Kurdish Regional Government, which administers the country's
north. In Syria, it has lent unqualified support to the anti-regime
rebels, letting them operate freely on its soil, turning a blind eye
to their atrocities, and reportedly criticizing the United States for
branding the al Qaeda-linked Jabhat al-Nusra a terrorist group.

The former Turkish diplomat said that Ankara was right to support the
demise of President Bashar al-Assad's regime, but deplored the
ham-fisted way that it went about it. "Turkey was right to side with
the people against the dictator, but it could have stopped there," he
said. "By burning all bridges with the regime, Turkey lost its
leverage with Assad." And when the international community, wary as
the rebels' ranks swelled with jihadists, shied away from lending
further support, "Turkey, to use a football term, found itself
offside."

Erdogan is struggling with a new array of foreign policy challenges in
other parts of the world, too. Turkey's image in the West took a
beating this summer with the protests in Gezi Park. Erdogan's decision
to put down the demonstrations with riot police, tear gas and water
cannons undermined his relationship with the European Union: In late
June, in the midst of the post-Gezi crackdown, Brussels decided to
postpone a new round of accession talks with Ankara until October.
Erdogan himself, meanwhile, has come under scathing criticism in the
American press.

Turkey has done virtually nothing to undo the damage. Instead,
officials have accused Western countries of orchestrating the protests
and various "dark forces" -- including what Erdogan cryptically calls
the international "interest rate lobby" -- of bankrolling them. The
prime minister's new top advisor, Yigit Bulut, has no qualms about
calling the European Union "a loser headed for a wholesale collapse"
while Egemen Bagis, the very minister responsible for the accession
talks, quipped, "If we have to, we could tell them, 'Get lost'."

While Turkey's foreign policy struggles in the Middle East may have
been inevitable, its isolation elsewhere seems self-inflicted. Today,
the country risks returning to the mindset of the 1990s, when tensions
abounded with Arab and European countries, conspiracy theories
poisoned the political debate, and Turks -- convinced they were a
country under siege -- repeated faithfully, "The Turk has no friend
but the Turk." Erdogan, it seems, has taken his country from "zero
problems" to international headaches as far as the eye can see.

By Piotr Zalewski
http://www.foreignpolicy.com

[man]

Turkey To Join USA, England & France if they Attack Syria

 

Isaiah 17 "Behold Damascus is about to be removed from being a city and will become a fallen ruin."

 

The West is not buying Assad's claim that his forces did not used chemical weapons; so presently Obama is consulting with allies of England and France before he decides on how to punish Assad and his army. Military chiefs from the United States and its European and Middle Eastern allies, Saudi Arabia and Turkey, are meeting in Jordan, the headquarter of land attack, for what could be a council of war, should they decide to punish Assad, who has denied using chemical weapons and blamed rebels for staging such attacks. Turkey said it would join any international coalition in its attack on Syria. The United States has started a naval buildup in the region to be ready for Obama's decision; cruise missiles are lunched from naval ships. US already withdrew its troops from Iraq and the conflict in Afghanistan is winding down, so another war on the Syria, Iran, Lebanon & Jordanian fronts is not out of reach of United States. What this is all boiling to? The whole region will be turned into an infierno of fire and destruction so that the antichrist will appear as a savior in that region restoring peace. After the infierno the survivors go through there and Damascus ceases to be city and completely deserted (see Isaiah 17) --all the people of the region will bow their knees before the antichrist worshiping him, the peacemaker, and take willingly take his mark of computerized ID number on their hoofs. Come to Jesus NOW if you want to be saved!

 

Isaiah 17 "Behold Damascus is about to be removed from being a city and will become a fallen ruin." Needless to say Jordan also will be partially destroyed.

[man]

If there is to be punishment for Syria by the American army - there are other ways to punish Syria a country that is half-destroyed already by arms and armaments. Economic and freezing bank accounts are options, why shed more blood when already streams of blood have and are being shed in Syria.
Many American military leaders are also uncertain of a military punishment attack upon Syria because of the rapid decay of the anti-Syria coalition: Without the British the operation presents itself differently. Nato’s lukewarm support has also caused the American military to wonder. Simply relying on France seems to many to be too little. And Turkey is already viewed with suspicion by the U.S. military. President Erdogan is not at all trusted, because by many U.S. elites the AKP is considered an Islamist movement that pursues its own agenda which is to invade Europe in order to convert them to Islam.

Of course one of those agendas is to extend the Turkish shores borders with Greece to 12 miles (currently it is 6 miles), claims like this will result of Greece calling its ambassador from Turkey. And Turkey has plans to annex upper northern Syria and Latakia of the Alawite people as the sunny Muslim Turks hate the Alawites who belong to Shiite branch of Islam, this to resettle back more than half-million Syrian who fled into Turkey from the war into Syrian north under Turkey's control and occupation. This Turkey's expansion into Syria will upset Russia forcing Putin to recall the Russian ambassador from Turkey. The circle of ALL PROBLEMS WITH TURKEY'S NEIGHBORS WOULD BE COMPLETED: No Ambassadors in Armenia, Syria, Egypt, Greece, and Russia ---countries bordering Turkey from south, east, west and north.

[MosJan]

 

The circle of ALL PROBLEMS WITH TURKEY'S NEIGHBORS WOULD BE COMPLETED: No Ambassadors in Armenia, Syria, Egypt, Greece, and Russia ---countries bordering Turkey from south, east, west and

i guess turks are trying to make new neighbors.. by attacking syria

[man]

Turkey doers not care who her neighbors are as long as Turkey gets FREE her big share of the gas & oil discovered at E Medi sea, and for that reason Turkey will extend its shores to 12 miles:

http://youtu.be/ZG4ITsCtZ2U

 

http://i0.wp.com/blog.curry.com/images/2012/02/07/syria-turkey.jpg?zoom=1.5&resize=520%2C325

[man]

Syria, Turkey and Israel are the final chess pieces of a move to cut Russia’s lucrative lock in Natural Gas and Oil that it supplies to Europe. If this connection is cut in any way it will bring severe consequences to the Russian economy as well as Russia’s natural gas company Gazprom. This is a move that the US and Europe stands to gain from.This is about the transport of gas & oil from the Levetian basin in the Mediterranean right off the coast of Syria, Lebanon and Israel and from Israel, Syria and Turkey into Europe, so Europe would no longer be in need to gas from Russia.

In addition to the Levethian basin there is another natural gas pipeline planned from Libya to Egypt to Nabucco in Turkey (the Nabucco deal was signed in 2009 by Turkey and some European nations but it never got off the planing stage); it would have crossed Turkey into Austria bypassing Russia. Qatar, as well as Saudi Arabia, had a plan for a feeder pipeline into Nabucco line at a point of its running through Syria. So we see a near future where a five headed gas monster going from the Middle East into Europe: a line from Leviathan basin, another from Libya & Egypt, and another from Qatar & Saudi Arabia; with the intermediary Turkey as its six ugly head of this monster. Europe would have for centuries a guaranteed gas supply, more cheaper than the Russian gas; and Europe would no longer be under the blackmail of Russians when it comes to gas. The gas sword brandished by Russia over Europe would have been eliminated and the fear of dying from freezing in winter in Europe would have evaporated.

It is natural that Russia is standing in the way of this six-headed monster (if Turkey is included), and so far Syria has remained faithful to Russia in spite of Syria being almost totally destroyed; Assad is supporting Russia and Russian interests in the region in defiance...let us say --against all odds.

Russia is about to lose the entire European region to Middle Eastern, north African and Caspian Energy interests. The solution for Russia would be to look for alternate customers than the Europeans like China and India, however in order for that policy to be successful Russia has to drastically reduce its very high gas prices, case in point is the poor country of Armenia now dependent on Russia for gas and hardly can afford the high prices required by Russia. If Russia refuses to lower its prices then China & India can buy their gas from countries bordering south of Russia which are rich in gas like Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan and others. The gas should not be so expensive, for example we see Qatar burning millions cubic of gas each day without use only to get to the oil located under the gas. So gas is a byproduct and most want to get rid of it, why inflate its price so much as Russia is doing? Is Russia ready to go to war against the West and the Middle East, a big war like WW3, just so it can keep its gas pipelines with highly priced gas INTACT to Europe?

[man]

TURKEY, CANADA, S ARABIA and FRANCE TO JOIN THE USA PUSH FOR ATTACK ON SYRIA

 

In a special report from DEBKAfile (from Israel) on September 7, it is stating that "US Air Force will target Syria’s air force, ballistic missiles and sections of its air defenses" if Obama orders an attack on Syria where now in that country the government has the upper hand over so-called "rebels" who were fighting Assad's regime.

According to DEBKAfile (debka.com, article 23257) which has connection with Israeli military, if Syria is attacked Obama will order the American military "to take down Bashar Assad’s air force, destroy his air bases and knock out his ground-to-ground ballistic missiles, using giant B-52 bombers and B-2 stealth bombers. Some of the bombers will fly in directly from the US; others from the Al Udeid base in Qatar. F-22 Raptor fighter-bombers are also scheduled to take part in the US air offensive....These air raids could moreover be conducted from afar without American aircraft coming within range of Syrian air defense batteries" this would be possible if those US planes fly too high in the sky or fire their missiles without even crossing the Syrian borders. There is no mention by DEBKAfile of cruise missiles being fired from the sea by American ships and submarines from some 1000 miles far from the Syrian borders. According to DEBK the American forces, if they attack, they "will also target the Syrian army’s 4th and Republican Guard divisions, protectors of the Assad presidency and regime". But without doubt the "taking down the ballistic missiles, which may be used as the vehicles for delivering the poison gases both within Syria and beyond its borders" --like into Israel, Turkey & Jordan-- is certain.

According to DEBKA this expanded new attack-plan of Obama "would go a lot further than a deterrent warning to the Syrian regime and would seriously downgrade the regime's military and strategic capabilities." Obama is ready to act without a UN mandate and even if US Congress withheld its support for war against Syria.

Putin said at the 20-economic summit in San Petersburg: "US only can attack a sovereign country --first if in self-defense (which is not the case here) and second only if it has mandate from UN to attack....and another politician added "or else the attackers would be outlaws themselves".

A report by RT news writes Putin saying at the G20 summit "The alleged chemical weapons use in Syria is a provocation carried out by the rebels to attract a foreign-led strike".

"There was no 50/50 split of opinion on the notion of a military strike against the Syrian President Bashar Assad, Putin stressed refuting earlier assumptions.

"Only Turkey, Canada, Saudi Arabia and France joined the US push for intervention, he said, adding that the UK Prime Minister’s position was not supported by his citizens.

"Russia, China, India, Indonesia, Argentina, Brazil, South Africa and Italy were among the major world’s economies clearly opposed to military intervention" Putin said.

If a poll is taken of the general world population now, %99 only will vote "No" for war, the 1% who will vote "Yes" would be mostly the Islamists. With Obama's war on Syria people of third world countries, which already hate USA, will start hating tenfold more and at the end US will lose total PR face.
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Vladimir Putin is in war with Islamist extermists in southern Russia, and China with Chinese Islamists in western China, while Obama would be crushing the regime of Assad by force so that Islamists will take over Syria and then liberate Muslim southern Russian lands from Kremlin of Moscow and western China lands from Beking. So after all, Syria and Assad may not be the problem at all, but destabilizing Russia & China by Islamists from the Middle East may be the real goal. And this would bring humanity closer to WW3 if not this year or the next then in a mere decade, in 11 or 12 years only.

[man]

For every evil act of war and terror, God will cast them out and strike them stone dead

Tuesday, August 27th, 2013

 

My dearly beloved daughter,

the world is about to endure terrible wars and hatred will spread and infect many nations. Unrest and division will be present in most countries and people will know then that times have changed beyond belief.

 

A deep unsettling anxiety will be felt and people will find it difficult to know whom to trust. This is how Satan infests God’s children, as he pits one against the other. Only those who believe in the True God will find comfort, for they will know that their faith and love for Me will keep them strong.

 

You must pray hard, so that the deceit that has fallen, which is the cause of many wars, will be exposed for what it is – an attempt to cause deep division and hatred in order to control. My Father will punish the oppressors, as they cause havoc and pain upon the innocents. They may kill and maim many, but they will be struck down by My Father, for their wickedness.

 

Those who believe that they can create war and fool the world will not get much time to boast of their wicked activities. Their fate is sealed. Intervention by the Hand of God will be seen in every part of the world. For every evil act of war and terror, God will cast them out and strike them stone dead.

 

War created by the hand of man destroys life of the flesh. Punishment by My Father stops the life of the soul from being given the Gift of salvation.

Your Jesus

[man]

No wonder Turkey wants to topple Assad..

 

Two Europeans who were abducted and held hostage for several months in Syria were released recently --Belgian teacher Pierre Piccinin and Italian journalist Domenico Quiric. La Stampa journalist, Domenico, believes that radical Islamic groups operating in Syria to topple Assad “want to create a caliphate and extend it to the entire Middle East and North Africa.”

http://rt.com/news/chemical-weapons-rebels-captives-632/

[man]

WHEN TURKEY PLAYS WITH FIRE!

 

"There are no moderate Syrian rebels. There isn’t even a Syrian rebellion; only M B men in Turkey who act as gatekeepers for Qatari and Turkish weapons flowing to thousands and thousands of fighters, drifting in and out of gangs, killing their way across Syria..There is no Free Syrian Army. There is no Syrian opposition. There are just groups of fighters carving out territory, seizing homes, oil depots and bakeries, raping women, killing Christians, and behaving exactly the way that armed gangs with heavy firepower and no law to restrain them do" Daniel Greenfield

The Myth of the Moderate Syrian Rebels
September 9, 2013 By Daniel Greenfield
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/there-are-no-moderate-syrian-rebels/

The moderate Syrian rebels, like the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy, are a myth; an imaginary character used to tell soothing stories to children. Unfortunately the storytellers think that we’re the children.

The Syrian Civil War is a religious war. It’s not a war over democracy or freedom. It’s a conflict between two totalitarian systems, one loosely based on a mixture of Islam and Socialism, and the other more rigidly based on Islam. Both are brutal and merciless to anyone who doesn’t belong. Both have their death squads and extensive corruption on the inside.

Both are evil.

It’s also an ethnic conflict being played out between Iran and the Arab world. And it even has elements of Ottoman revivalism on the Turkish side of the border where its Islamist rulers dream of reclaiming an empire.

None of that is a recipe for moderation. There are no moderates in a religious war. There are no moderates in an ethnic conflict. There are no moderates among those who would start such a war or those who intend to finish it.

Neither side is seeking freedom. Both are seeking absolute supremacy.

The Syrian opposition that we hear about on the evening news and in the columns of newspapers is an elaborate Potemkin village masterminded by the Muslim Brotherhood, Turkey and Qatar to convince Americans and Europeans that the rebels have a governmental structure and are ready to take power.

The Syrian National Council (full abbreviation SNCORF) is a bunch of names and letters peopled by ambitious men. It commands less of Syria than it does of Washington and Brussels. If it tried to give anyone an order in Aleppo, there would be laughter. But it keeps getting away with giving orders in D.C.

The Holy Roman Empire was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire and the Free Syrian Army is neither free, nor Syrian, nor an army. It’s a grab bag of guerrilla fighters, many of them foreign Islamists, who expect to receive American weapons and money and are occasionally willing to play along with the pretense that there is some kind of united army of national liberation for America to aid.

The political structures built up in Turkey and Qatar are fictional. The official leaders lead nothing. General Salim Idris commands nothing. All the organizations with Syria in their name are good for little except fooling Westerners into giving them weapons to funnel to the various rebel brigades, in exchange for promises of future influence and business deals, and plotting to take over the country afterward.

The only commanders who matter are the ones on the ground. And not only are they Islamists, but they are also far less housebroken than Idris. They’re the sort that casually kill prisoners and eat their lungs. They wouldn’t make a very convincing case for democracy and freedom in Washington, D.C.

The actual fighters have few allegiances except to wealth and religion. Some fight for pay, others fight for Jihad. Many for both. None resemble the mythical brigades of free officers fighting for a secular Syria that some senators still believe in.

Even the brigades and their names are smoke on a battlefield. Fighters move from one brigade to another. Brigades move from one association and alliance to another.

The boundaries between the Free Syrian Army and the Al-Nusra Front are not hard and fast. Some Islamist brigades play on both teams. Identifications are a matter of convenience. The vast majority of fighters, whatever associations they may have, are fighting to impose a Sunni Islamist system on Syria.

General Idris originally refused to cut ties with the Al-Nusra Front. After enough pressure and promises from Washington, he went along with the charade, but the actual commanders on the ground didn’t. FSA forces continued conducting joint operations with the Al-Nusra Front and recently four out of five front commanders signed a letter demanding to work with the Al-Qaeda group.

The letter is another attempt to pressure Washington D.C. into providing weapons and air support. The Syrian opposition leaders have insisted that the only possible way that we would be able to “moderate” the rebels and marginalize Al Qaeda was by backing them to the hilt. In reality, the various brigades that are compatible will go on working together regardless of what D.C. does.

And none of them are our friends.

The “Al-Aqsa Islamic Brigades,” an FSA-allied group, was caught sticking a photoshopped image of Washington, D.C. burning at the hands of Syrian rebel fighters on its Facebook page. An analyst was quoted as wondering why a group affiliated with “the generally pro-Western Free Syrian Army” would do such a thing.

“It raises the unfortunate but inescapable fact that not every group within the Free Syrian Army is closely aligned with U.S. interests in the region,” he said.

More accurately, not a single group within the FSA is either pro-American or aligned with US interests.

Why would they be? An Islamic brigade has as its goal the replacement of Western political and judicial systems with Islamic ones through armed force. And the majority of the FSA consists of Islamic brigades. Islamists with that goal tend to think of Western political and judicial systems as idolatry and heresy. To the Salafi, idolaters and heretics have less right to live than sheep in a butcher shop.

As reporters tried to learn more about the “Al-Aqsa Islamic Brigades,” they found a maze of splinter groups and alliances with the Al-Nusra Front that revealed that all the artificial structural overlays imposed by Western experts on bands of Eastern fighters don’t actually matter in the real world.

There is no Free Syrian Army. There is no Syrian opposition. There are just groups of fighters carving out territory, seizing homes, oil depots and bakeries, raping women, killing Christians, and behaving exactly the way that armed gangs with heavy firepower and no law to restrain them do.

There are no moderate Syrian rebels. There isn’t even a Syrian rebellion; only Muslim Brotherhood men in Turkey who act as gatekeepers for Qatari and Turkish weapons flowing to thousands and thousands of fighters, drifting in and out of gangs, killing their way across Syria the way that their distant ancestors might have during the original conquests of Islam.

Islam is their identity. It is a far more significant identity than the names of the brigades and alliances that they occasionally align with. It is their law, in the same way that the Pirate Code was the law of the buccaneers and the Thieves Law was the code of the Russian criminal. It dispenses rough justice and enables them to split the loot while remaining devout men who after every rape bow to Mecca.

What is happening in Syria is not a war between two sides. It’s Afghanistan. It’s Libya. It’s the collapse of a country into warring bands. The only difference is that this collapse has been carefully orchestrated.

Slaughter in Syria will go on with the unrestrained savagery that can only be carried out by men who believe that other men are subhuman. It will go on with knives, with machine guns and with nerve gas. It will go on whether we bomb Assad or write him a sternly worded letter.

It will go on because there are no moderates in a religious war. Only the killers and the killed.

Freedom Center pamphlets now available on Kindle: Click here.
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/there-are-no-moderate-syrian-rebels/

[man]

In an article written by Susanne Posel in September 11, 2013 we read the following that gives some details about Turkey's involvement with Arab countries:

 

"In 2011, governments of Iraq, Iran and Syria signed a $10 billion accord to build a natural gas pipeline that would fuel income to the Middle Eastern nations.

 

Syria is expected to purchase “20 million to 25 million cubic meters a day of Iranian gas” daily.

 

The pipeline “length is more than 1,500 kilometers and will run from Assalouyeh to Damascus while passing through Iraq”, then Tehran, Lebanon and out to the Mediterranean Sea; eventually becoming a servicer to Europe, Southeast Asia and other nations.

 

Because the Israeli government has discovered Leviathan Field, this may prove to be a 'game changer' which would propel Israel to become the 3rd largest provider of natural gas in the Middle East.

 

Before the creation of the Iraq, Iranian and Syrian pipeline, 'Qatar proposed a gas pipeline from the Gulf to Turkey in a sign the emirate is considering a further expansion of exports from the world’s biggest gasfield after it finishes an ambitious program to more than double its capacity to produce liquefied natural gas (LNG).'

 

Part of the scheme, according to Turkey, is to strategically move the Nabucco pipeline project to 'transport Central Asian and Middle Eastern gas to Europe, bypassing Russia.'

 

In this way, Qatar and Turkey would join efforts and share in the spoils.

 

Europe would rely on Qatar for natural gas instead of Russia.

 

However, Assad rejected the pipeline prosed by Qatar in favor for the deal with Iraq and Iran." Susanne Posel

Edited September 12, 2013 by man

[man]

Assad: "Soon Islamist terrorists will turn on Turkey," an act which peace loving Turks may decide to convert to Christianity in mass..

Turkey will pay for harboring ‘terrorists’ – Assad
October 05, 2013

Syrian President Bashar Assad said that Turkey will pay a “heavy price” for harboring and backing “terrorists” in order to oust him, warning that soon enough the terrorists will turn on Turkey.

Assad referred to Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan as "bigoted" and accused Turkey of aiding terrorists by allowing them to cross into Syria, Reuters reported, citing an interview with Turkey’s Halk TV.

"It is not possible to put terrorism in your pocket and use it as a card because it is like a scorpion which won't hesitate to sting you at the first opportunity," Assad said. "In the near future, these terrorists will have an impact on Turkey and Turkey will pay a heavy price for it."

Turkey is home to about two million refugees [actually less than a million, Lebanon has more refugees than Turkey] who have fled Syria since the country’s unrest began in March 2011. Turkey is also one of the biggest supporters of Syrian opposition forces. The country plays a key geopolitical role in the conflict, as it shares a 900-kilometer border with Syria.

Assad claimed that Erdogan has a sectarian agenda, since his AK Party has origins in conservative Islamist politics. "Before the crisis, Erdogan had never mentioned reforms or democracy, he was never interested in these issues ... Erdogan only wanted the Muslim Brotherhood to return to Syria, that was his main and core aim," Assad said.

More: http://rt.com/news/assad-turkey-harboring-terrorists-753/

[man]

October 3, 2013
Global Fund for Community Engagement and Resilience
by Ryan Mauro
Ryan Mauro is the ClarionProject.org’s National Security Analyst, a fellow with the Clarion Project and is frequently interviewed on top-tier TV stations as an expert on counterterrorism and Islamic extremism

http://m.clarionproject.org/analysis/us-taxpayers-pay-spread-turkish-qatar-islamism

Millions of American taxpayer dollars will be spent promoting the Muslim Brotherhood brand of Islamism to counter the Al-Qaeda brand of Islamism. The U.S. is teaming up with the Islamism-promoting governments of Turkey and Qatar to try to influence Muslim youth in a more positive direction.

The U.S. and the Islamist government of Turkey have announced a $200 million fund for programs that will supposedly promote non-violence among Muslims in terrorist hotspots like Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen.

The total is to be raised over 10 years, with the U.S. provided $2-3 million (at first), along with Turkey, Canada, various European countries and “private sources.” The only other Muslim country mentioned as a partner besides Turkey is Qatar.

As the sole Muslim participants in the fund, Turkey and Qatar will be the ones crafting the Islamic message against Al-Qaeda.

The fund, called the Global Fund for Community Engagement and Resilience, will bolster Muslim local programs like vocational training, social networks and new school curriculums.

The thinking behind this fund is the same flawed thinking that upholds the Muslim Brotherhood as the moderate, democratic, non-violent alternative to Al-Qaeda. This logic was articulated by Director of National Intelligence James Clapper in testimony on January 31, 2012—testimony that came after his previous embarrassingly inaccurate explanation of the Brotherhood:

“Al-Qaeda probably will find it difficult to compete for local support with groups like the Muslim Brotherhood that participate in the political process, provide social services and advocate religious values. Non-violent, pro-democracy demonstrations challenge Al-Qaeda’s violent jihadist ideology and might yield increased political power for secular or moderate Islamist parties.”

If you believe that the Brotherhood’s Political Islam is the solution to Al-Qaeda’s Political Islam (as does the Obama administration), then your natural ideological allies would be Turkey and Qatar.

The tiny Gulf nation of Qatar is subsidizing the Muslim Brotherhood and acts like a bank for the Islamist cause. Al-Jazeera is based there, as is the Muslim Brotherhood’s spiritual leader Yousef al-Qaradawi.

Turkey’s Prime Minister Erdogan was dubbed the "King of the Islamists" in a Clarion Project analysis in March. His government sided with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and he says Hamas isn’t a terrorist group. Erdogan has been implementing Sharia law in Turkey incrementally using the Islamist doctrine of "gradualism."

A backlash against the Sharia agenda of Erdogan contributed to the huge protests Erdogan faced over the summer. The protests are ongoing, but are not being covered by the Western media.

Turkey’s neo-Ottoman ideology is promoted even in the U.S. through the Fethullah Gulen charter school network, the Turkish government’s embrace of Native American tribes, and Turkey’s direct involvement in the construction of Ottoman-themed mosques, like the $100 million mega-mosque being built in Maryland.

Instead of making alliances with Turkey and Qatar, the U.S. should instead look to Muslim leaders like Jordanian King Abdullah II, an adversary of the Muslim Brotherhood. He has marginalized the Brotherhood opposition that threatened his reign by embracing liberal critics.

We should listen to what King Abdullah had to say about Turkey under Erdogan. He pointed out that Erdogan “once said that democracy for him is a bus ride. 'Once I get to my stop, I'm getting off'."

Abdullah was referring to a statement Erdogan made in the 1990s before he took power. He said democracy is “a train that takes you to your destination, and then you get off.”

Jordan’s King has also said that style and patience is the only difference between Erdogan and former Egyptian President Morsi, who was overthrown in an anti-Muslim Brotherhood revolution. He said, "Instead of the Turkish model -- taking six or seven years being an Erdogan --- Morsi wanted to do it overnight.”

Unfortunately, America’s strategy will either create more Al-Qaeda recruits by expanding the overall Islamist following, or -- if it works as intended -- will hurt Al-Qaeda but strengthen the other Islamist movements.

[man]

July 8, 2013
World’s ‘Most Dangerous Islamist’ - Alive, Well, and Living in Pennsylvania
by Dr. Paul L. Williams
(Paul Williams is the author of The Day of Islam: The Annihilation of America and the Western World. He is a frequent guest on such national news networks as ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, MSNBC, and NPR. Visit his website at http://thelastcrusade.org/)

This is only a condensation, the full article of Paul Williams is at:
http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/07/worlds-most-dangerous-islamist-alive-well-and-living-in-pennsylvania/#Fsl30X9w0DP2oi2S.99

His name is Fethullah Gulen and he resides not in the wilds of southern Turkey – but the mountains of Northeastern Pennsylvania.

The Saylorsburg property consists of a massive chalet surrounded by numerous out buildings, including recreational centers, dormitories, cabins for visiting foreign dignitaries, a helicopter pad, and firing ranges. Sentries stand guard at the gates to the estate to turn away all curiosity seekers.

Gulen fled Turkey in 1998 to avoid prosecution on charges that he was attempting to undermine Turkey's secular government with the objective of establishing an Islamic government.

Gulen, according to the Middle East Quarterly, was a student and follower of Sheikh Sa'id-i Kurdi (1878-1960), also known as Sa'id-i Nursi, the founder of the Islamist Nur (light) movement. After Turkey's war of independence, Kurdi demanded, in an address to the new parliament, that the new republic be based on Islamic principles. He turned against Ataturk and his reforms and against the new modern, secular, Western republic.

Turkey is now ruled by the Justice and Democratic Party (Adalet ve Kalkinma, AKP)- - a party under the Gulen's control. Abdullah Gul, Turkey's first Islamist President, is a Gulen disciple along with Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Yusuf Ziya Ozcan, the head of Turkey's Council of Higher Education.

Under the AKP, Turkey has transformed from a secular state into an Islamic country with 85,000 active mosques – one for every 350- citizens – the highest number per capita in the world, 90,000 imams, more imams than teachers and physicians – and thousands of state-run Islamic schools.

Gulen's tentacles stretch throughout Turkey since his followers, known as Fethullahists, have gained control of the country's media outlets, its financial institutions and banks, and its business organizations.

This individual has toppled the secular government of Turkey and established madrassahs [Muslim schools] throughout the world. His schools indoctrinate children in the tenets of radical Islam and prepare adolescents for the Islamization of the world. More than 90 of these madrassahs have been established as charter schools throughout the United States. They are funded by American taxpayers. One of these charter schools – Tarek ibn Zayed Academy (TiZA) in Minnesota – is so radically Islamic and subversive in nature that the Minnesota Department of Education issued two citations against it and the American Civil Liberties Union is suing it. Dozens of his universities, including the Faith University in Istanbul, train young men to become lawyers, accountants, and political leaders so that they can take an active part in the restoration of the Ottoman Empire and the Islamization of the Western World. This individual has amassed a fortune – over $30 billion – for the creation of a universal caliphate.

In his public statements, Gulen espouses a liberal version of Sunni/Hanafi Islam and promotes the Muslim notion of hizmet – altruistic service to the common good. Publicly Gulen has condemned terrorism and called for interfaith dialogue. He has met with Pope John Paul II, the Greek Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomeos, and Israeli Sephardic Head Rabbi Eliyahu Bakshi-Doron.

However, the real goal of Fethullahists, the followers of Fethullah Gulen, are:

1) the Islamization of Turkish nationality and the Turification of Islam in order to bring about a universal caliphate ruled by Islamic law
2) the restoration of the Ottoman Empire and the Islamization of the Western World

In private, Gulen has stated that "in order to reach the ideal Muslim society 'every method and path is acceptable, [including] lying to people.'"

In a sermon that was aired on Turkish television, Gulen said:

You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers … until the conditions are ripe, they [the followers] must continue like this. If they do something prematurely, the world will crush our heads, and Muslims will suffer everywhere, like in the tragedies in Algeria, like in 1982 [in] Syria … like in the yearly disasters and tragedies in Egypt. The time is not yet right. You must wait for the time when you are complete and conditions are ripe, until we can shoulder the entire world and carry it … You must wait until such time as you have gotten all the state power, until you have brought to your side all the power of the constitutional institutions in Turkey … Until that time, any step taken would be too early—like breaking an egg without waiting the full forty days for it to hatch. It would be like killing the chick inside. The work to be done is [in] confronting the world. Now, I have expressed my feelings and thoughts to you all—in confidence … trusting your loyalty and secrecy. I know that when you leave here—[just] as you discard your empty juice boxes, you must discard the thoughts and the feelings that I expressed here.

Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/07/worlds-most-dangerous-islamist-alive-well-and-living-in-pennsylvania/#Fsl30X9w0DP2oi2S.99
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Several countries have outlawed the establishment of Gulen schools and cemaats (communities) within their borders – including Russia and Uzbekistan. Even the Netherlands, a nation that embraces pluralism and tolerance, has opted to cut funding to the Gulen schools because of their imminent threat to the social order.

Bill Gates Funds Gulen Islamist Movement
by PAUL L. WILLIAMS, PHD May 25, 2010

Read more: Family Security Matters http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.6307/pub_detail.asp#ixzz2kl3DjIRD
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The Fethullah Gulen movement, which seeks to restore the Ottoman Empire, has found a friend and benefactor in Bill Gates of Microsoft fame. Mr. Gates is ranked the third wealthiest person on planet earth.

In 2007, through the Texas High School Project, the Gates Foundation shelled out $10,550,000 to the Cosmos Foundation, a Gulen enterprise that operates 25 publicly funded charter schools in Texas.

The Internal Revenue Service Form 990 for Cosmos shows that the Cosmos Foundation received $41,570,721 from taxpayers.

At present, there are 85 Gulan madrassahs (Islamic schools) in the United States, and all operate with public funding.

At the Gulen schools, students are indoctrinated in Turkish culture, language, and religion so that they may be of service in making Fethullah Gulan’s dream of a universal caliphate a reality. The madrassahs sponsor Turkish clubs, Turkish language societies, Turkish dance groups, and annual trips to Istanbul.

According to Stephen Schwartz of the Center for Islamic Pluralism, the 85 Gulen schools advance and promote Islamic beliefs; present the Ottoman Empire, which lasted from 1299 to 1923, as a golden age; and serve to rewrite history by denying the Armenian holocaust under the Turks during World War I.

Many of the teachers at these schools are Turkish émigrés with questionable credentials. Some possess H-1B non immigrant visas which should only be granted to individuals who possess “highly specialized knowledge in a field of human endeavor.” The female faculty members appear in their classrooms wearing hijabs and traditional Islamic attire.

Critics can’t understand why the schools are staffed with imported elementary and secondary school teachers when thousands of trained and certified American educators are begging for teaching positions. But are the schools really subversive?

Rachel Sharon-Krespin writes: “His (Gulen’s) followers target youth in the eighth through twelfth grades, mentor and indoctrinate them in the ışıkevi, educate them in the Fethullah schools, and prepare them for future careers in legal, political, and educational professions in order to create the ruling classes of the future Islamist, Turkish state.”

Even more telling is a comment from Nurettin Veren, Gulen’s right hand man for 35 years, who said: “These schools are like shop windows. Recruitment and Islamization are carried out through nigh classes."

The use of the Islamic practice of taqiyya or deception to mask the true nature of the schools has been upheld by Gulen himself. In a 1999 sermon, the Turkish paasha offered the following advice to his followers:

You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers … until the conditions are ripe, they [the followers] must continue like this. If they do something prematurely, the world will crush our heads, and Muslims will suffer everywhere, like in the tragedies in Algeria, like in 1982 [in] Syria … like in the yearly disasters and tragedies in Egypt. The time is not yet right. You must wait for the time when you are complete and conditions are ripe, until we can shoulder the entire world and carry it … You must wait until such time as you have gotten all the state power, until you have brought to your side all the power of the constitutional institutions in Turkey … Until that time, any step taken would be too early—like breaking an egg without waiting the full forty days for it to hatch. It would be like killing the chick inside. The work to be done is [in] confronting the world. Now, I have expressed my feelings and thoughts to you all -in confidence … trusting your loyalty and secrecy. I know that when you leave here - [just] as you discard your empty juice boxes, you must discard the thoughts and the feelings that I expressed here.

Fethullah Gulen has been called the “most dangerous Islamist” in the world. He has amassed a fortune – thanks, in part, to the CIA – of $25 billion. This money has been used to transform the secular government of Turkey into an Islamic Republic under the Justice and Democratic Party (Adalet ve Kalkinma, AKP) – a party under the Gulen’s control.

Abdullah Gul, Turkey’s first Islamist President, is a Gulen disciple along with Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, and Yusuf Ziya Ozcan, the head of Turkey’s Council of Higher Education. Under the AKP, Turkey has transformed from a secular state into an Islamic country with 85,000 active mosques – one for every 350 citizens – the highest number per capita in the world, 90,000 imams, more imams than teachers and physicians – - and thousands of state-run Islamic schools.

Despite the rhetoric of European Union accession, Turkey has transferred its alliance from Europe and the United States to Russia and Iran. It has moved toward friendship with Hamas, Hezbollah, and Syria and created a pervasive anti-Christian, anti-Jewish, and anti-America animus throughout the populace.

Gulen has also established thousands of schools throughout central Asia and Europe. Because of their subversive nature, these schools have been outlawed in Russia and Uzbekistan. Even the Netherlands, a nation that embraces pluralism and tolerance, has opted to cut funding to the Gulen schools because of their imminent threat to the social order.

FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Paul L. Williams, Ph.D., is the author of The Day of Islam: The Annihilation of America and the Western World, The Al Qaeda Connection, and other best-selling books. He is a frequent guest on such national news networks as ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, MSNBC, and NPR. Visit his website at http://thelastcrusade.org/.

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[man]

"As in the sixteenth century … we will once again make the Balkans, the Caucasus, and the Middle East, together with Turkey , the center of world politics in the future. That is the goal of Turkish foreign policy and we will achieve it." Foreign Minister Ahmet Davotoglu

 

SO FAR TURKEY HAS BECOME THE CLOWN OF THE MIDDLE EAST

It will end up in flames during World War III

 

Deceiving 'Window of Opportunity '

'Arab Idol' No More
Backpedaling too late

 

Syria, Egypt Reveal Erdogan's 'Hidden Agenda'
By Nicola Nasser
http://en.ammonnews.net
Nov-23-2013
http://www.aina.org/news/20131123122501.htm

Quoted by Hillel Fradkin and Lewis Libby, writing in last March/April edition of www.worldaffairsjournal.org, the goal of Erdogan's AKP ruling party for 2023, as proclaimed by its recent Fourth General Congress, is: "A great nation, a great power." Erdogan urged the youth of Turkey to look not only to 2023, but to 2071 as well when Turkey "will reach the level of our Ottoman and Seljuk ancestors by the year 2071" as he said in December last year.

"2071 will mark one thousand years since the Battle of Manzikert (1071)," when the Seljuk Turks defeated the Byzantine Empire and heralded the advent of the Ottoman one, according to Fradkin and Libby.

Some six months ago, Davotoglu felt so confident and optimistic to assess that "it was now finally possible to revise the order imposed" by the British -- French Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916 to divide the Arab legacy of the Ottoman Empire between them.

Davotoglu knows very well that Pan-Arabs have been ever since struggling unsuccessfully so far to unite as a nation and discard the legacy of the Sykes-Picot Agreement, but not to recur to the Ottoman status quo ante, but he knows as well that Islamist political movements like the Muslim Brotherhood International (MBI) and the Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami (Islamic Party of Liberation) were originally founded in Egypt and Palestine respectively in response to the collapse of the Ottoman Islamic caliphate. [this may explain was Erdogan became a member of Muslim Brotherhood before being elected PM]

However, Erdogan's Islamist credentials cannot be excluded as simply a sham; his background, his practices in office since 2002 as well as his regional policies since the eruption of the Syrian conflict less than three years ago all reveal that he does believe in his version of Islam per se as the right tool to pursue his Ottoman not so-"hidden agenda."

Erdogan obviously is seeking to recruit Muslims as merely "soldiers" who will fight not for Islam per se, but for his neo-Ottomanism ambitions. Early enough in December 1997, he was given a 10-month prison sentence for voicing a poem that read: "The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers;" the poem was considered a violation of Kemalism by the secular judiciary.

Deceiving 'Window of Opportunity '

However, Erdogan's Machiavellianism finds no contradiction between his Islamist outreach and his promotion of the "Turkish model," which sells what is termed as the "moderate" Sunni Islam within the context of Ataturk's secular and liberal state as both an alternative to the conservative tribal-religious states in the Arabian Peninsula and to the sectarian rival of the conservative Shiite theocracy in Iran.

He perceived in the latest US withdrawal of focus from the Middle East towards the Pacific Ocean a resulting regional power vacuum providing him with an historic window of opportunity to fill the perceived vacuum. [Actually US was pushed out of the Middle East and is in the proccess of being pushed out after the fiasco of the "Arab Spring" while Russia is getting stronger steadily in the Middle East]

"Weakening of Europe and the US' waning influence in the Middle East" were seen by the leadership of Erdogan's ruling party "as a new chance to establish Turkey as an influential player in the region," Günter Seufert wrote in the German Stiftung Wissenschaft und Politik (SWP) on last October 14.

The US and Israel, in earnest to recruit Turkey against Iran, nurtured Erdogan's illusion of regional leadership. He deluded himself with the unrealistic belief that Turkey could stand up to and sidestep the rising stars of the emerging Russian international polar, the emerging Iranian regional polar and the traditional regional players of Egypt and Saudi Arabia , let alone Iraq and Syria should they survive their current internal strife.

For sure, his allies in the Muslim Brotherhood International (MBI) and his thinly veiled Machiavellian logistical support of al-Qaeda -- linked terrorist organizations are not and will not be a counter balance.

He first focused his Arab outreach on promoting the "Turkish model," especially during the early months of the so-called "Arab Spring," as the example he hoped will be followed by the revolting masses, which would have positioned him in the place of the regional mentor and leader.

But while the eruption of the Syrian conflict compelled him to reveal his Islamist "hidden agenda" and his alliance with the MBI, the removal of MBI last July from power in Egypt with all its geopolitical weight, supported by the other regional Arab heavy weight of Saudi Arabia, took him off guard and dispelled his ambitions for regional leadership, but more importantly revealed more his neo-Ottoman "hidden agenda" and pushed him to drop all the secular and liberal pretensions of his "Turkish model" rhetoric.

'Arab Idol' No More

Erdogan and his foreign policy engineer Davotoglu tried as well to exploit the Arab and Muslim adoption of the Palestine Question as the central item on their foreign policy agendas.

However, in interviews with ResearchTurkey, CNN Turk and other media outlets, Abdullatif Sener, a founder of Erdogan's AKP party who served as deputy prime minister and minister of finance in successive AKP governments for about seven years before he broke out with Erdogan in 2008, highlighted Erdogan's Machiavellianism and questioned the sincerity and credibility of his Islamic, Palestinian and Arab public posturing.

"Erdogan acts without considering religion even at some basic issues but he hands down sharp religious messages … I consider the AK Party not as an Islamic party but as a party which collect votes by using Islamic discourses," Sener said, adding that, "the role in Middle East was assigned to him" and "the strongest logistic support" to Islamists who have "been carrying out terrorist activities" in Syria "is provided by Turkey" of Erdogan.

In an interview with CNN Turk, Sener dropped a bombshell when he pointed out that the AKP's spat with Israel was "controlled." During the diplomatic boycott of Israel many tenders were granted to Israeli companies and Turkey has agreed to grant partner status to Israel in NATO: "If the concern of the AKP is to confront Israel then why do they serve to the benefit of Israel ?" In another interview he said that the NATO radar systems installed in Malatya are there to protect Israel against Iran .

Sener argued that the biggest winner of the collapse of the Syrian government of President Bashar al-Assad would be Israel because it will weaken Lebanon 's Hizbullah and Iran , yet Erdogan's Turkey is the most ardent supporter of a regime change in Syria , he said.

Erdogan's Syrian policy was the death knell to his strategy of "Zero Problems with Neighbors;" the bloody terrorist swamp of the Syrian conflict has drowned it in its quicksand.

Liz Sly's story in the Washington Post on this November 17 highlighted how his Syrian policies "have gone awry" and counterproductive by "putting al-Qaeda on NATO's (Turkish) borders for the first time."

With his MBI alliance, he alienated Egypt , Saudi Arabia and the UAE, in addition to the other Arab heavy weights of Syria , Iraq and Algeria and was left with "zero friends" in the region.

According to Günter Seufert, Turkey 's overall foreign policy, not only with regards to Syria , "has hit the brick wall" because the leadership of Erdogan's ruling party "has viewed global political shifts through an ideologically (i.e. Islamist) tinted lens."

Backpedaling too late

Now it seems Erdogan's " Turkey is already carefully backpedaling" on its foreign policy," said Seufert. It "wants to reconnect" with Iran and " Washington 's request to end support for radical groups in Syria did not fall on deaf Turkish ears."

"Reconnecting" with Iran and its Iraqi ruling sectarian brethren will alienate further the Saudis who could not tolerate similar reconnection by their historical and strategic US ally and who were already furious over Erdogan's alliance with the Qatari financed and US sponsored Muslim Brotherhood and did not hesitate to publicly risk a rift with their US ally over the removal of the MBI from power in Egypt five months ago.

Within this context came Davotoglu's recent visit to Baghdad , which "highlighted the need for great cooperation between Turkey and Iraq against the Sunni-Shiite conflict," according to www.turkishweekly.net on this November 13. Moreover, he "personally" wanted "to spend the month of Muharram every year in (the Iraqi Shiite holy places of) Karbala and Najaf with our (Shiite) brothers there."

Within the same "backpedaling" context came Erdogan's playing the host last week to the president of the Iraqi Kurdistan Regional Government, Massoud Barzani, not in Ankara , but in Diyarbakir , which Turkish Kurds cherish as their capital in the same way Iraqi Kurds cherish Kirkuk .

However, on the same day of Barzani's visit Erdogan ruled out the possibility of granting Turkish Kurds their universal right of self-determination when he announced "Islamic brotherhood" as the solution for the Kurdish ethnic conflict in Turkey , while his deputy, Bulent Arinc, announced that "a general amnesty" for Kurdish detainees "is not on today's agenda." Three days earlier, on this November 15, Turkish President Abdullah Gul said, "Turkey cannot permit (the) fait accompli" of declaring a Kurdish provisional self-rule along its southern borders in Syria which his prime minister's counterproductive policies created together with an al-Qaeda-dominated northeastern strip of Syrian land.

Erdogan's neo-Ottomanism charged by his Islamist sectarian ideology as a tool has backfired to alienate both Sunni and Shiite regional environment, the Syrian, Iraqi, Egyptian, Emirati, Saudi and Lebanese Arabs, Kurds, Armenians, Israelis and Iranians as well as Turkish and regional liberals and secularists. His foreign policy is in shambles with a heavy economic price as shown by the recent 13.2% devaluation of the Turkish lira against the US dollar.

"Backpedaling" might be too late to get Erdogan and his party through the upcoming local elections next March and the presidential elections which will follow in August next year.

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"Among other things, the two camps [that of Erdogan and that of Gulen] are at odds over how to deal with the Kurds. Turkish intelligence chief Hakan Fidan led secret peace negotiations on the behalf of the prime minister with the Kurdish separatist Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK). Gülen, however, called on the Turkish military in a video message to attack Kurdish separatists: "Locate them, surround them, smash their units, let fire rain down on their houses, cover their wailing with still more cries of pain," he said.'"

 

Year 2014 is crucial for Turkey, as Erdogan's term as prime minister expires and new parliamentary elections will be made. There is now ongoing war going between Erdogen and Gulen, how Armenia will be affected if Gulen movement wins and takes power in Turkey --I can not tell; but here is what Gulen, the cult leader, said about the Kurds: "Locate them, surround them, smash their units, let fire rain down on their houses, cover their wailing with still more cries of pain".

 

 

A Brother's Vengeance: The Preacher Who Could Topple Erdogan

By Maximilian Popp

January 09, 2014

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/turkey-erdogan-sees-power-threatened-by-muslim-cleric-guelen-a-942296.html

Fethullah Gülen, who is believed to be 72, lives in exile in Pennsylvania. He fled Turkey in 1999 when the government, which was secular at the time, accused him of attempting to Islamize the country. His some 8 million supporters run schools, media companies, hospitals and an insurance company in 140 countries, including Germany. It is the "most powerful Islamist grouping" in Turkey, according to US State Department diplomatic cables made public by WikiLeaks in 2010. The network "controls major business, trade, and publishing activities, has deeply penetrated the political scene -- including AKP at high levels."

 

Gülen got his start as an imam in Ederne and Izmir, and soon persuaded pious businessmen to make donations. With this he financed schools, and his supporters founded student housing known as "houses of light," which are a fundamental part of the organization. Keles lived in one of these facilities, which often offer free accommodation in exchange for loyalty. Dropouts say the tone inside is militaristic; residents study Gülen's writings and sermons under a provost's supervision.

 

The community recruits new supporters in its schools and tutoring centers, training them as "soldiers of light." Their task, whether they become businessmen, politicians or judges, is to spread Gülen's vision of Islam.

 

But despite the fact that it's a huge organization, the Gülen movement has no address and no headquarters. Fethullah Gülen alone determines its structure and path, while the cleric's trusted "brothers" are in charge of its most important businesses. Among these is Zaman, Turkey's highest-circulation newspaper, along with Bank Aysa, the country's largest.

 

Infiltrating the Turkish Government

More than two years ago, Gülen urged his followers to infiltrate the Turkish state in a sermon that was captured on video. "You have to penetrate the arteries of the system without being noticed," he said. You have to wait for the right moment, until you have seized the entire power of the state." Gülen says the video has been manipulated.

 

When AKP assumed power in 2002, the prime minister saw an ally in the Gülen organizations. He promoted the movement by appointing members to important positions in law enforcement and the judiciary. Together, Erdogan and Gülen ousted the military, which until then had acted as guardian of the secular state.

 

The five-year trial against the "Ergenekon" network, the most spectacular and controversial case in the Turkish judicial system's recent history, has led to the arrest of generals, but also hundreds of politicians, lawyers and journalists, for their involvement in an alleged coup attempt. Crimes could be proven for individual defendants. Often, however, the allegations turned out to be fabricated. Critics say that, with Erdogan's permission, the Gülen movement manipulated the trial to eliminate political rivals in the government and civil society. The prime minister's chief adviser admitted two weeks ago that forces within the judiciary conspired at the time against the military. The general staff now wants to bring the case back to court.

 

A high-ranking former party member asserts that numerous state officials acted on the orders of the Gülen brothers: "They were our students. We trained them and supported them. When these grateful children take office, they continue to serve Gülen."

Critical journalists were also persecuted. The reporter Nedim Sener, for instance, reported on the machinations of the Gülen community, as did his colleague Ahmet Sik. In March 2011, the two were arrested. They were not released until the following year.

 

'They Want Influence and Money'

Sener says he doesn't doubt the seriousness of the corruption allegations -- but the motives of the investigators has to be questioned. These are hardly neutral jurists at work, but rather Gülen followers. "The community is not governed by rule of law and democracy," says Sener. "They want influence and money."

 

Because it's not just about ideology; it's also about wealth. By opening schools abroad, the Gülen movement has developed new markets for Turkish businesses. The Calic Group, for instance, which is run by Erdogan's son-in-law, benefited from the group's connections to the former Turkmen dictator Saparmurat Niyazov.

 

But the alliance between Erdogan and Gülen began to crumble after the parliamentary elections of 2011. Erdogan said he could no longer rely on the movement. Gülen followers, for their part, were disturbed by the prime minister's increasingly authoritarian governing style. "Erdogan became a burden for us," says Keles.

 

Among other things, the two camps are at odds over how to deal with the Kurds. Turkish intelligence chief Hakan Fidan led secret peace negotiations on the behalf of the prime minister with the Kurdish separatist Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK). Gülen, however, called on the Turkish military in a video message to attack Kurdish separatists: "Locate them, surround them, smash their units, let fire rain down on their houses, cover their wailing with still more cries of pain," he said.

 

The Conflict Escalates

In February 2012 state prosecutors attempted to apprehend Erdogan's intelligence chief. The prime minister prevented Fidan's arrest -- and transferred police powers to intelligence. The media attacked Erdogan's actions with the same vehemence they once reserved for the opposition. In summer 2013 Gülen criticized Erdogan for his brutal handling of the Gezi protesters.

 

But only after Erdogan threatened to close the tutoring centers did the conflict escalate. Lawmaker Sukur, a former soccer player and national hero, announced his resignation from the AKP: "As a supporter of the movement, I take the hostilities against Gülen personally," he said. Afterward, the daily newspaper Zaman called him a "hero with a lion's heart" and interpreted his resignation as a "final warning."

 

 

The corruption scandal shook the country just a day later. The prime minister is still trying to dismiss the allegations as conspiracy, speaking of a "second war of independence." He announced he would take action against Gülen's supporters. More than 500 police officers have already been transferred. Erdogan is expected to present a list with the names of 2,000 more alleged Gülen followers within the state apparatus.

 

Gülen supporter Keles says the movement is prepared to fight to the "bitter end." Ilhan Cihaner, the opposition politician and Gülen opponent, expects further revelations in the coming weeks. He says the group possesses enough compromising documents to topple Erdogan: "The conflict is far from over."