MosJan Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 EXTREMELY RARE ARMENIAN MANUSCRIPT BOOK OF NAREKATSI is on Ebay 30K http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXTREMELY-RARE-ARMENIAN-MANUSCRIPT-BOOK-OF-NAREKATSI-/221259837630?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item33841d30be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 skzbi hamar arajarkum em miyanal yev gnel iyn.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Item location: Valencia, California, United States Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 tesnes inchpes yev vorteghits e iyn dzerq bervel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 it's been on ebay 3 times now 0 bidsJul-16 Jul-27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 tesnes inchpes yev vorteghits e iyn dzerq bervelMay be looted! Who knows? I think an Armenian museum should get involved for the purchase or the church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 May be looted! Who knows? I think an Armenian museum should get involved for the purchase or the church.This is reminiscent of the times 1970-80? when artifacts and relics from the Jerusalem Comvent Sb. Hakob were being auctioned somewhere in Texas? At the time some said that they knew who the thief was. A high ranking clergy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 This is reminiscent of the times 1970-80? when artifacts and relics from the Jerusalem Comvent Sb. Hakob were being auctioned somewhere in Texas?At the time some said that they knew who the thief was. A high ranking clergy? Arpa correct me if i'm wrong , isn't Sb. Hakob in hands of Greeks ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) Arpa correct me if i'm wrong , isn't Sb. Hakob in hands of Greeks ?NO!! Look here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Quarter Are you thinking Sb. Harutiun? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_Holy_Sepulchre Edited August 9, 2013 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 yete chem sxalvum. Surb Hakob @ Kartsvats e Hay Taghuhu koghmits, ov galov yerusaghem vajarel e ir zarteghen@ yev karutsel iyn, ,iiyn yeghel e paytashen mi shinutyun, tariner ants Vratsiner@ kasharelov sultanin statsel en iravunq@ tnorinelu iyn, yev iyspes mi qani angam Hayer@ kasharel statsel en iravunq, vratsiner@ norist kasharel statsel en het, minchev yerkusn el hnaravorutyun chen unetsel pahelu.. tariner ants inch inch patjarov hrdeh e brnkvel yekeghetsum yev huyner@ qani vor inch patjarov mot en yeghel yev hangtsrel kjrak@ statsel en tnorinelu iravunq.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 yerevni te sxalvum em .. Surb Hakob yekeghetsin12rd darum e karutsvel.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Extremely rare Armenian manuscript book of Narekatsi put up for Internet auction16:50 - 10.08.13An extremely rare manuscript of Grigor Narekatsi, an Armenian monk,poet, mystical philosopher and theologian, has been put up for theeBay auction, the starting price being $30,000.Director of the Armenian Institute of Ancient Manuscripts(Matenadaran) Hrach Tamrazyan told Tert.am that the Armenian side isnow verifying the information.`We are always interested in such information and, if we can, acquirevaluable manuscripts. We have recently found two of Narekatsi'smanuscripts,' Tamrazyan said.The deadline for the sale of the ancient Armenian manuscript is August 26.http://www.tert.am/en/news/2013/08/10/narekaci/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) yerevni te sxalvum em .. Surb Hakob yekeghetsin12rd darum e karutsvel..Dear Mos, which Sb. Hakob are you talking about? See above that the talk is about the Sb. Hakob of Jerusalem. How and where did the Georgians/Vratsis come into the picture? Are you talking about the Sb. Hakob of Akori? See Akori under Culture http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=53490&do=findComment&comment=308446 PS. Do you read anything I write? That is since dolma? Edited August 13, 2013 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 HISTORICAL ARMENIAN CROSS VALUED AT $70,000 ON EBAY10:21 15.08.13A sacred cross that once belonged to the St. Karapet Monastery ofMush has been valued at 70.000 US Dollars on eBay.The sellers have described the item as a rare sample of Armenian cross.The sacred piece is offered for 2 380 000 Russian Rubles ($3,163,279.91) on the Russian bidding website Bay.ru. The cross,which is 38 cm long and weighs 488 grams, dates from 1761-1771.A manuscript by Grigor Narekatsi, a 10th century Armenian poet andtheologian, was recently auctioned online for a starting priceof $30,000. Director of the Matenadaran (repository of ancientManuscripts) Hrach Tamrazyan said in later comments to Tert.am thatthey were trying to verify the report, as well as the identity ofthe person who had placed the bid.http://www.tert.am/en/news/2013/08/15/surb-karapet/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 ARMENIAN MANUSCRIPTS STILL WAITING BUYER ON EBAY12:34 20.08.13The valuable manuscript by Grigor Narekatsi,which was earlier reportedto have been put up to an online auction, has not yet found its buyeron eBay.Speaking to Tert.am, Director of the Matenadaran (repository ofancient manuscript) Hrach Tamrazyan said they expect more news inthis connection in the nearest future.Asked whether their institution may buy the piece (offered for$30,000), Tamrazyan noted that they first need to consider the realvalue before making a decision."It is hard to form any idea judging by the pictures. We have to seemanuscript in its real form. And we'll make a decision afterwards,"he answered.Armenian News - Tert.am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 have you seen the seller's other listings? hope it's all legitimate dealings and not smuggled out stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 the book will be in Armenia ! in 15 days !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Ռուսաստանում Comedy Club Production (CCP) ընկերության գլխավոր սեփականատեր Արթուր Ջանիբեկյանը, իմանալով, որ eBay-ում վաճառքի է հանվել Նարեկացու ձեռագիրը, որի մեկնարկային գինը սահմանվել է 30,000 ԱՄՆ դոլար, անմիջապես կապվել է ձեռագրի սեփականատերերի հետ ու պայմանավորվել դադարեցնել աճուրդը: Եզակի գիրքն այժմ պատկանում է միայն Մատենադարանին, գրում է «Հրապարակ»-ը: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Great news!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 17:03 30/08/2013 » Culture Matenadaran acquired more than 1,500 manuscripts in past 5 yearsThanks to benefactors, Matenadaran - Mesrop Mashtots Institute of Ancient Manuscripts acquired more than 1,500 manuscripts in the past 5 years. “This is a good number, and it allows us to open a separate Matenadaran,” Hrachya Tamrazyan, director of the Institute, told Panorama.am.Hundreds of manuscripts are kept in foreign countries and Matenadaran works to acquire them, Tamrazyan added.‘Narek’ manuscript put up for auction on eBay has been bought by Russian Armenian Arthur Janibekyan and will be presented to Matenadaran in 10-15 days, Tamrazyan said. The manuscript’s starting price was USD 30,000. Source: Panorama.am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Ռուսաստանում Comedy Club Production (CCP) ընկերության գլխավոր սեփականատեր Արթուր Ջանիբեկյանը, իմանալով, որ eBay-ում վաճառքի է հանվել Նարեկացու ձեռագիրը, որի մեկնարկային գինը սահմանվել է 30,000 ԱՄՆ դոլար, անմիջապես կապվել է ձեռագրի սեփականատերերի հետ ու պայմանավորվել դադարեցնել աճուրդը: Եզակի գիրքն այժմ պատկանում է միայն Մատենադարանին, գրում է «Հրապարակ»-ը:So now, the case is closed? Will we ever know who placed it on eBay, is there a way to track down? Where did it come from? Where was it pilfered from, by whom? One last question. What is so special about this book, when there may be thousands of copies of Narek?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 eBay-auctioned Narekatsi manuscript to be gifted to Matenadaranhttp://media.pn.am/media/issue/169/322/photo/169322.jpgAugust 30, 2013 - 17:43 AMTPanARMENIAN.Net - Grigor Narekatsi’s manuscript, earlier auctioned at eBay, will be delivered to Matenadaran within 15 days, the director of the ancient manuscripts’ depository said.“The saved manuscript will be ceremoniously gifted to Matenadaran within 15 days,” Hrachya Tamrazyan told PanARMENIAN.NetEarlier, the owner of the Russian company Comedy Club Production Artur Janibekyan bought out Narekatsi’s manuscript auctioned at eBay for $ 30000 to be further gifted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Arpa it's an original. to my understanding.. not a copy you do have valid questions.. but we might never know.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) Arpa it's an original. to my understanding.. not a copy you do have valid questions.. but we might never know.. Original, like this? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/ArmenianStamps-235.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/ArmenianStamps-235.jpg If I remember correctly, that picture on eBay looked like 21st century neatly bound paperback book. I wish I could find that picture that has since been removed http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Grigor_Narekatsi_1.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Grigor_Narekatsi_1.jpg\ Edited August 30, 2013 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted September 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Arpa it's on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXTREMELY-RARE-ARMENIAN-MANUSCRIPT-BOOK-OF-NAREKATSI-/221259837630?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item33841d30be&nma=true&si=Ah%252FEGVesujti07p2CQo7o8cDBgE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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