Guest Posted January 19, 2001 Report Share Posted January 19, 2001 Did someone read the book "Forty days of Musa Dað"? It's one of the best book I've read.I find very good page about Armenians from Mousaler who live in Anjar.It's about their life, heritage and history. You can find there some pictures from Mousaler 1915 and a lot of other information. www.mousaler.com Write me what you think about it and of course about book by F.Werffel.Best regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2001 Report Share Posted January 19, 2001 Hello Taguhi jan and Welcome to Hye-Fourm - I'm a Musalertsy My self and i love the web page that you have posted is one of my favorite Sits on the web , i think the guys are doing a super job ... 40ty days of Musa dagha is one of the best books about Musaler- and Musalertsy - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2001 Report Share Posted January 22, 2001 Barev MosJan jan,Maybe you will know?I heard that the people describe in the book by F.Werfell were true persons.Did you know something about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2001 Report Share Posted January 22, 2001 Taguhi, I have happened to know one of them. Her name was Manushak. She was an old lady when I was growing as a kid. At her age of over 70, when I knew her, she was a women of enormous physical strength. She could literally wrestle any man, and pin him down. She was able to raise wights of the order of 80kg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2001 Report Share Posted January 22, 2001 I would like to vizit Mousalere one day. I have some Arab friend who live in Turkey in this region. They call it Hatay. Maybe some day I will do this. One of this Arabs is a old man and he remember that his grandfather was talking about Armenians from Hatay and Mousalere. He told me olso that every year a lot of Armenians from Syria vizit their villages and that they have some Armenians brides there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2001 Report Share Posted January 22, 2001 It's apicture of Mousalere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2001 Report Share Posted January 29, 2001 Nice website. Anyone who visits the mountain should know that there is still an Armenian village, called Vakif (the musaler website spells it Vakef), at the foot of the Musa Dagh mountain. But the climate in Hatay at summertime is horrible - hot and very, very, very humid. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2001 Report Share Posted January 30, 2001 Belljan have you been there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2001 Report Share Posted January 30, 2001 It's a great adventure to vizit all this Armenian historical places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 For your info. this book has been 'transferred' to the screen too.There is a nice movie based on this book and I believe it is at least 15-20 year old.The movie is in English and it is quite nice and inspiring.You should try to locate it and watch it. BTW, the writer Franz Werffel is an Austrian who had withnessed the whole Mousa-Ler incidents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Kazza:Belljan have you been there?I tried to climb part of the way up the mountain in the summer of 1998. It was the warmest summer for decades - so perhaps the weather is not that bad normally! I didn't get much further than about 5 or 6 km beyond Vakif - it quickly became obvious that I did not have enough water with me (and I had about 4 litres - which should have been plenty). StevePS, I don't think Franz Werffel witnessed anything - he just heard of the story from newspaper reports, then talked to some of the survivors - but I'll check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Uh uh - 4 litres of water isn't nearly enough - don't underestimate the powers of dehydration! I have been on a lot of walks, and they say that you really should be an experienced walker and fit to even attempt to go up a mountain. But it is worth it - I can only IMAGINE the veiw...this is also important... I will be off there myself. Try again next year! Taguhi jan I have seen that website B4 (you wont beleive the amount of armenian websites I have surfed before coming to this one.) I liked it lots. I have seen another one, with photos of some of the men of that era with their families, perhaps it's on this website I don't know. I found it extremley fascinating to see old pictures of Armenians in Armenia, and important to me. Anyway Taguhi what did you enjoy about the book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Kazza:Uh uh - 4 litres of water isn't nearly enough - don't underestimate the powers of dehydration! Kazza, are you thinking about visiting the place this year? 4 litres is plenty for most parts of Turkey. (I am speaking from MANY years of experience here). You can figure using about 1 litre for every two hours of walking. And as long as you KNOW there is going to be water available at the end of your journey you can go without any for the last couple of hours. It is also important to always have salt with you - make that once a year visit to McDonalds to get some of their little salt packets! Actually, in Turkey unless you are walking in areas with no people at all (and I mean not even the occasional shepherd) you can often find springs of water to drink. But the land around Musa Dag appeared very dry to me - and the horrid humidity made walking very difficult. Its also not a very nice looking mountain - dirty grey coloured, not that high, very sprawling and lots of little valleys. But the view for the top might be nice! I think determination and a normal amount of commom sense is more important than experience - "experience" is often a dangerous thing because it makes you complacent. I walked alone over (and back over) the Katchkar mountains in NE Turkey, crossing several passes at more than 12,000 feet - before that I had never been near a proper mountain before.Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 it is always better to have too much water than too little, well, extra useful if you are a camel. But you are a cat so you wouldnt know about that.well yes, experience CAN make you complacent but obviously you've got to know what you are doing , do that when it comes to climbing the mountain you dont hurt yourself(by spraining anything as well as falling down), or get too tired. But without determination it is useless. Yes I 'd love to do a tour: Of Armeni, and the Ancient parts of Armeni in Turkey and Iran, to get a rreal bit of history. To me that wouldnt be justy any kind of walk you understand but a peice of ME, where I come from. [This message has been edited by Kazza (edited February 06, 2001).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2001 Report Share Posted February 7, 2001 I loved very much this book. It's very sad book but I thing every Armenian should read it. Unfortunatly I didn't see the film but I will try to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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