MosJan Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 ԳԵՐՄԱՆԻԱՆ ԵՎ ԳԱՂՏՆԻ ՑԵՂԱՍՊԱՆՈՒԹՅՈՒՆԸ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/photograph-links-germans-to-1915-armenia-genocide-8219537.html Photograph links Germans to 1915 Armenia genocideRobert FiskSunday, 21 October 2012 [summary: Newly discovered picture shows Kaiser's officers at scene ofTurkish atrocity. The photograph is available at the link above.] The photograph - never published before - was apparently taken in thesummer of 1915. Human skulls are scattered over the earth. They areall that remain of a handful of Armenians slaughtered by the OttomanTurks during the First World War. Behind the skulls, posing for thecamera, are three Turkish officers in tall, soft hats and a man, onthe far right, who is dressed in Kurdish clothes. But the two othermen are Germans, both dressed in the military flat caps, belts andtunics of the Kaiserreichsheer, the Imperial German Army. It is anatrocity snapshot - just like those pictures the Nazis took of theirsoldiers posing before Jewish Holocaust victims a quarter of a centurylater. Did the Germans participate in the mass killing of Christian Armeniansin 1915? This is not the first photograph of its kind; yet hithertothe Germans have been largely absolved of crimes against humanityduring the first holocaust of the 20th century. German diplomats inTurkish provinces during the First World War recorded the forceddeportations and mass killing of a million and a half Armeniancivilians with both horror and denunciation of the Ottoman Turks,calling the Turkish militia-killers "scum". German parliamentarianscondemned the slaughter in the Reichstag. Indeed, a German army medical officer, Armin Wegner, risked his lifeto take harrowing photographs of dying and dead Armenians during thegenocide. In 1933, Wegner pleaded with Hitler on behalf of GermanJews, asking what would become of Germany if he continued hispersecution. He was arrested and tortured by the Gestapo and is todayrecognised at the Yad Vashem Jewish Holocaust memorial in Israel; someof his ashes are buried at the Armenian Genocide Museum in thecapital, Yerevan. It is this same Armenian institution and its energetic director, HaykDemoyan, which discovered this latest photograph. It was found withother pictures of Turks standing beside skulls, the photographsattached to a long-lost survivor's testimony. All appear to have beentaken at a location identified as "Yerznka" - the town of Erzinjan,many of whose inhabitants were murdered on the road to Erzerum.Erzinjan was briefly captured by Russian General Nikolai Yudenich fromthe Turkish 3rd Army in June of 1916, and Armenians fighting on theRussian side were able to gather much photographic and documentaryevidence of the genocide against their people the previous year.Russian newspapers - also archived at the Yerevan museum - printedgraphic photographs of the killing fields. Then the Russians wereforced to withdraw. Wegner took many photographs at the end of the deportation trail inwhat is now northern Syria, where tens of thousands of Armenians diedof cholera and dysentery in primitive concentration camps. However,the museum in Yerevan has recently uncovered more photos taken inRakka and Ras al-Ayn, apparently in secret by Armenian survivors. Onepicture - captioned in Armenian, "A caravan of Armenian refugees atRas al-Ayn" - shows tents and refugees. The photograph seems to havebeen shot from a balcony overlooking the camp. Another, captioned in German "Armenian camp in Rakka", may have beentaken by one of Wegner's military colleagues, showing a number of menand women among drab-looking tents. Alas, almost all those Armenianswho survived the 1915 death marches to Ras al-Ayn and Rakka wereexecuted the following year when the Turkish-Ottoman genocide caughtup with them. Some German consuls spoke out against Turkey. The Armenian-Americanhistorian Peter Balakian has described how a German Protestantpetition to Berlin protested that "since the end of May, thedeportation of the entire Armenian population from all the AnatolianVilayets [governorates] and Cilicia in the Arabian steppes south ofthe Baghdad-Berlin railway had been ordered". As the Deutsche Bank wasfunding the railway, its officials were appalled to see its rollingstock packed with Armenian male deportees and transported to places ofexecution. Furthermore, Professor Balakian and other historians havetraced how some of the German witnesses to the Armenian holocaustplayed a role in the Nazi regime. Konstantin Freiherr von Neurath, for example, was attached to theTurkish 4th Army in 1915 with instructions to monitor "operations"against the Armenians; he later became Hitler's foreign minister and"Protector of Bohemia and Moravia" during Reinhard Heydrich's terrorin Czechoslovakia. Friedrich Werner von der Schulenburg was consul atErzerum from 1915-16 and later Hitler's ambassador to Moscow. Rudolf Hoess was a German army captain in Turkey in 1916; from1940-43, he was commandant of the Auschwitz extermination camp andthen deputy inspector of concentration camps at SS headquarters. Hewas convicted and hanged by the Poles at Auschwitz in 1947. We may never know, however, the identity of the two officers standing so nonchalantly beside the skulls of Erzinjan..http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8219561.ece/ALTERNATES/w460/photographlinks.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 EXPOSITION ON ARMENIAN GENOCIDE TO MAKE PART OF BERLIN CONSTANT EXHIBITION news.amOctober 22, 2012 | 21:29 BERLIN. - The theme of the Armenian Genocide will become one ofthe constant exhibitions in Berlin, Germany. The realization of theprogram will start in 2016 when the capital city will open the CentreAgainst Expulsions. A Foundation Centre Against Expulsions has beenoperating since 2000 in solidarity for the victims of genocides andforced relocations. Head of the center and German MP Erika Steinbachincluded also the exhibition on the Armenian Genocide. In additionshe speaks up for the recognition of the genocide both in German andTurkish parliaments. To note, both the foundation and the scientific council are for theexposition on the Armenian Genocide to make part of the constantexhibition. The initiative brings forth protest of the left wing party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Գերմանիայի Հանրային ռադիոն նոյեմբերի 13-ին առանձին հողորդում է հեռարձակել Հայոց ցեղասպանության մասին: Հաղորդման մեջ ներկայացվել է թուրք լրագրող Հասան Ջեմալի գիրքը, որը պատմում է Ցեղասպանության մասին: Հաղորդման մեջ մասնավորապես նշվում է. «Հայոց ցեղասպանությունը երկար ժամանակ տաբու է եղել Թուրքիայում: Այդ տաբուով է մեծացել նաեւ լրագրող Հասան Ջեմալը, ով Ցեղասպանության մասին իր անձնական մոտեցումներն ու հարցադրումներն ընդգրկել է «1915. Հայոց ցեղասպանություն» խորագրով գիրքում: Հատկանշական է գրքի կազմի վրայի լուսանկարը, որտեղ հեղինակը սպիտակ մեխակներ է դնում Երեւանում գտնվող Ցեղասպանության զոհերի հիշատակն անմահացնող կրակի մոտ: Հասան Ջեմալը հինգ տարի առաջ Աբդուլլա Գյուլի հետ ժամանել էր Հայաստան: Այդ պատմական այցը տեղի է ունեցել երկու երկների միջեւ ֆուտբոլային փոխադարձ խաղերի ժամանակ»: Գրքի բովանդակության հակիրճ ներկայացումից հետ հաղորդման մեջ նշվում է, որ Ջեմալի ընկերն էր հայազգի լրագրող Հրանտ Դինքը, ով գնդակահարվեց Ստամբուլ փողոցում միայն այն բանի համար, որ հայ էր, պայքարում էր պատմական արդարության համար եւ փորձում հաշտության եզրեր գտնել հայերի ու թուրքերի միջեւ: «Թուրքական զինվորական ղեկավարության կողմից Ցեղասպանության ծրագրավորման ու իրականացման մասին ամեն ինչ ասվել ու գրվել է, միայն թուրքական ծայրահեղ ազգայնական շրջանակներն են դեռ կասկածի տակ դնում պատմական փաստերը», նշված է եղել ռադիոհաղորդման մեջ: http://news.am/arm/news/128497.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Ralf Wieland: Germany shares responsibility for Armenian Genocide12:53, 28.02.2015During the First World War Germany as an ally was well aware of theYoung Turks' plans and shared responsibility for a genocideperpetrated against Armenians in the Ottoman Empire, chairman of thestate parliament of Berlin Ralf Wieland said.The state parliament of Berlin organized a commemoration eventdedicated to the centennial of the Armenian Genocide.The speakers called on Turkey to recognize the Genocide in order toprevent repetition of similar crimes against humanity.President the state parliament of Berlin touched upon the role ofGermany: "During the First World War, Kaiser's German,y as an ally,knew about the plans of the Young Turk government, and shared withthem the responsibility for perpetrating a genocide against theArmenians in the Ottoman Empire. The German side was aware, however,prevention of the crime was not in the interests of the country".http://news.am/eng/news/254802.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 DEUTSCHE WELLE: ARMENIAN GENOCIDE - GERMAN GUILT?11:21, 06 Mar 2015Siranush GhazanchyanWitness or accomplice? At a congress in Berlin, historians have beendebating Germany's role in the genocide of Armenians 100 years ago.New findings show that Germany's complicity is greater than previouslyassumed.(Deutsche Welle) - In the German Reichstag on September 29, 1916,the diplomat Gottlieb von Jagow had to give parliament an account ofthe terrible events in Turkey, then the Ottoman Empire.It was about mass displacement and executions taking place in theeastern region of Anatolia. The German Empire was a colonial powerthere at the time and also an ally of the Ottoman government, whichhad previously initiated a mass persecution of Christian Armeniansbefore the onset of World War I. "We did everything we could," statedJagow in defense of Germany's passivity.This silent acquiescence toward the mass murders has been the subjectof the International Historians Congress in Berlin.Historians see the German Empire's involvement in the deportationof Armenians as a proven fact. However, the part the Germans playedis still not clear. Were they mere witnesses, or were they actuallyaccomplices?Depending on estimates, 300,000 to 1.5 million Armenians were murderedby the Turks. and refer to it as genocide. Yet in modern-day Turkey,the state that replaced the Ottoman Empire, the human suffering ofthat era is still officially seen as "a war-related dislocation andsecurity measure." The number of victims is still a matter of disputein Turkey, making reconciliation between Turkey and Armenia difficult.Germany knew and turned a blind eyeArmenians view the Germans as accomplices, says historian Ashot HayruniThe 160 historians in Berlin were focused on Germany's complicity inthe Armenians' suffering. According to the Armenian historian AshotHayruni from the State University of Yerevan, the Germans are seenas accomplices because of their silence and cold indifference.The German government just stood by and watched as the youngTurkish government expelled Armenians from Turkey to the deserts ofMesopotamia, a region now in modern-day Iraq, Kuwait and Syria. AndGermans claimed that they did not want to interfere, even though theywere very well-informed.Historian Christin Pschichholz from the University of Potsam hasno doubts. After having read files at the German Foreign Ministry,she concludes that, "the German government had extensive informationabout the destructive policies regarding the Armenian populationin the Ottoman Empire. Death marches, executions and forced labor:German diplomats painstakingly took note of everything happeningaround them at that time.Historical witnesses were quite aware of the atrocities, as illustratedby a dispatch sent on July 7, 1915 by the German Ambassador inConstantinople (now Istanbul) to the Imperial Chancellor. It said,"it is the declared intention of the government [meaning the Turkishgovernment] to destroy the Armenian race in the Turkish Empire."A German military mission was posted to the Ottoman Empire at thetime of the genocideHistorian Rolf Holsfeld at Lepsiushaus, a highly regarded researchinstitute in Potsdam, says, "the statement that genocide took placeon Ottoman territory in 1915 and 1916 has been officially known tothe German government for over 100 years. "The way Germany handles the subject of the Armenian genocide doesnot directly reflect on Germany's complicity at that time. Germangovernment officials have always avoided using the word genocide whenspeaking of Armenia. Instead, they speak of massacre and dislocation.In February 2015, the Linkspartei, German's far-left party, askedparliament about the use of terms regarding the persecuted Armeniansin Turkey and the government decided to continue using the sameterminology. The reason given was that it did not want to jeopardizeTurkish-Armenian reconciliation. The German government's policy:categorizations should be left to academia.Armenia, together with more than 20 other countries, and the majorityof the historians at the Berlin convention have classified the eventsas genocide, in accordance with the UN Genocide Convention of 1948.About a year ago, the former Premier and now President of Turkey, RecepTayyip Erdogan, broke the decade-old silence of Turkish officials onthis subject. He apologized to the victims and their descendants andspoke of the "inhuman consequences" of the Armenians' expulsion. Hedid not speak of genocide.Inglorious rolePresident Erdogan apologized in the name of present-day TurkeyFormer East German civil rights activist and former member ofparliament for the Social Democrats, Markus Meckel, was in theBundestag when the Armenian issue was first discussed 10 years ago.Even then, no resolution regarding Turkey could be adopted if itcontained the word genocide. After a great deal of discussion, anensuing paper stated that the Germans apologized for the "ingloriousrole" of the German Empire. It was not possible to say more. Even incommunism, said Meckel, history was defined by politics.Yet Germany could send an important political signal by recognizingthe suffering of the Armenian people as genocide. He says, "Anyonewho does not use this term is basically giving the suffering and thecatastrophe a lesser meaning."Historian Ashot Hayruni from the State University of Yerevan thinksit is the German government's obligation and says, "It is importantthat the German government adopts a decision in which the genocideis recognized and condemned as such."To Yerevan with a small German delegationHistorical photograph of Armenian refugeesAccording to DW sources, the German parliament plans to remember thevictims of the Armenian genocide with a debate. But there is littlecause to believe that anything will change in an argument aboutremembrance culture.Quite the contrary: now there is a dispute as to who will representGermany at the main memorial service in Armenia on the 100thanniversary of the genocide on April 24 this year. The expulsion of theethnic group began at Istanbul's Haydarpasa station on April 24, 2015.Until now, the German Foreign Ministry claims that it is still checkingto see who will officially represent Germany in the Armenian capital.Insiders are expecting that Germany's reticence on this issue willbe underscored by the absence of high-level politicians. It ispossible that only the German ambassador will attend the service,whereas France will be represented by the president himself, FrancoisHollande. Historian Jurgen Gottschlich has called this 'scandalous.'http://www.armradio.am/en/2015/03/06/deutsche-welle-armenian-genocide-german-guilt/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 ARMENIAN GENOCIDE AND THE GERMAN "AMNESIA"14:23, 09.03.2015Cornelius Janzen, who hosts the "Culture Hour" program on theGerman-language 3Sat satellite TV, presented a video recently, andentitled "Germans and the Armenian Genocide."The maker of this video states that the political archives of theGerman MFA contains hundreds of documents that attest to the systematicslaughter of Armenians and the German Empire's role in this tragedy.Dr. Rolf Hosfeld, the scientific managing director of the House ofLepsius Organization (Lepsiushaus), and Jurgen Gottschlich, a foreigncorrespondent for German daily Die Tageszeitung in Turkey, also wereguests of this program.Gottschlich expressed a conviction that the German Empire's role inthe Armenian Genocide was more than a mere observer. He has studiedthe Turkish and the German archives, and come to the conclusion thatGermany had provided an active political support in the carrying outof this genocide, and so as to fulfill its own military objectives.And as per Hosfeld, the aforementioned events had unrolled in thecontext of military thinking, and with the desire to win the FirstWorld War at any cost. He believes that Germany has tolerated theArmenian Genocide. Hosfeld also criticizes Germany's current positionon this matter, and accuses it of "amnesia."http://news.am/eng/news/256082.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Swedish newspaper: Germany doesn't want to remember about its role inArmenian Genocide14:48, 06.09.2015Germany doesn't want to acknowledge its own role in the ArmenianGenocide, the Swedish newspaper Politiken writes.For a long time, Germany didn't want to acknowledge the ArmenianGenocide, since it didn't want to spoil its relations with Turkey. Andperhaps it also didn't want to remember about its own role andliabilities, the article reads.`Germany was Turkey's ally in the World War I. The German officersserved in the Ottoman military police; [German] diplomats andpolitical functionaries travelled throughout the country. Some of themobserved the deportations, while others took part in them. Stillothers wrote home, urging Germany to interfere.Reich Chancellor Theobald von Bethmann Hollweg said: `Our only aim isto keep Turkey on our side until the end of the war, no matter whetheras a result Armenians do perish or not.'Debates rise about the fact why Germany hasn't so far acknowledged thehappening as a Genocide, like France, for instance. For fear ofspoiling relations or because of reluctance to remember about its ownrole? Discussions have revived more then ever,' the article reads.http://news.am/eng/news/284856.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 JUSTIFYING GENOCIDE: GERMANY AND THE ARMENIANS FROM BISMARCK TO HITLER HARDCOVER- JANUARY 4, 2016by Stefan Ihrig (Author)The Armenian Genocide and the Nazi Holocaust are often thought tobe separated by a large distance in time and space. But Stefan Ihrigshows that they were much more connected than previously thought.Bismarck and then Wilhelm II staked their foreign policy on closerelations with a stable Ottoman Empire. To the extent that theArmenians were restless under Ottoman rule, they were a problemfor Germany too. From the 1890s onward Germany became accustomed toexcusing violence against Armenians, even accepting it as a foreignpolicy necessity. For many Germans, the Armenians represented anexplicitly racial problem and despite the Armenians' Christianity,Germans portrayed them as the "Jews of the Orient."As Stefan Ihrig reveals in this first comprehensive study of thesubject, many Germans before World War I sympathized with the Ottomans'longstanding repression of the Armenians and would go on to defendvigorously the Turks' wartime program of extermination. After the war,in what Ihrig terms the "great genocide debate," German nationalistsfirst denied and then justified genocide in sweeping terms. The Nazistoo came to see genocide as justifiable: in their version of history,the Armenian Genocide had made possible the astonishing rise of theNew Turkey.Ihrig is careful to note that this connection does not imply theArmenian Genocide somehow caused the Holocaust, nor does it makeGermans any less culpable. But no history of the twentieth centuryshould ignore the deep, direct, and disturbing connections betweenthese two crimes.http://www.amazon.com/Justifying-Genocide-Germany-Armenians-Bismarck/dp/0674504798/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 ARMENIANS WERE THE "JEWS OF THE ORIENT" IN GERMAN DISCOURSEby MassisPost January 12, 2016, 1:04 pm 0 CommentsHistorian Stefan IhrigBy Vartan EstukyanAgosHistorian Stefan Ihrig authored another important book titled as"Justfiying Genocide" that is published by Harvard University Press.In this book, Ihrig discussed the Germans' view of the Armeniansfrom Bismarck to Hitler and we talked to him about the backgroundand the factors that led to this historical attitude of Germanstoward Armenians.How was the view of Germany toward Armenians during the Bismarck era?Which factors had shaped that view?Armenians were not much of a topic for most Germans in the Bismarckyears. The Armenians really made an entry on the international stagewith the Congress of Berlin in 1878. In the years after, Germany underBismarck followed a kind of dual policy toward the Ottoman Empire:to use it as a deflector of tensions from the center of Europe and togradually get Germany closer to the Ottomans as a possible partner. Inall this, Armenians were something of an irritation -but also anopportunity for Germany. An opportunity because Bismarck's Germanyused the Armenian topic to endear itself to Abdulhamid by eitherstanding by him or by being silent and not speaking out for Armenians.It is known that under the reign of Abdulhamid II, Ottoman Empirehad developed close relations with Germany. What kind of a standdid Germany take towards 1894 and 1895-96 Armenian massacres in theOttoman Empire?The trend started under Bismarck continued afterwards: Germany usedthe Armenian topic to build up its standing with the Ottoman rulers.But, again, the topic was problematic. The 1890s massacres were achallenge for Germany in as far as fellow Christians were in need ofprotection and intervention, yet official Germany stood by Abdulhamidthroughout the process, silently, almost like an accomplice. Thoughbehind closed doors, the outrage was loud and clear.In public Germany, something of a conflict between pro-Ottoman andpro-Armenian papers and activists started and it continued untilthe massacres had ended. One side wanted to raise awareness aboutArmenian suffering, while the other side either denied the extent ofthe violence or offered justifications for why the Ottoman state had tokeep down Armenians. The pro-Ottoman side was the stronger one, aidedby newspapers that were in the government's pocket. The interestingthing here is that Armenians were almost never really discussed asfellow Christians. Already in the 1890s, the racial dimension wasbecoming more and more important than any religious aspect.When German Emperor William II traveled to Istanbul in 1898, thisnecessitated a new look at what had happened to Armenians in theyears before. This led to the productions of not only justificationsfor the German silence on the matter and support for the Ottomans,but also very distinct justifications for why the Armenians had tobe massacred the way it had happened. The most shameful, but mostimportant and commercially successful justification for violenceagainst Armenians was a book by Friedrich Naumann, in which he -animportant imperial thinker, liberal politician and Protestant pastor-justified why Germany had to be silent and even fully justifiedmassacring Armenians. His and others' justificationalist discourseswere bad precedents for future developments.It is told that Germany did not prevent the genocide, because theyneeded Ottomans more than Armenians. However, as explained in the book,the Armenian enmity in Germany had strong historical roots. What doyou think about that issue?The historical roots of Germany's stance on the Armenian topic duringWorld War I go back to the late 19th century. Germany as a state anda society had become used to the Armenians being "expendable" at thealtar of imperial policies; Germany had become used to justifyingthe violence against Armenians. Thus, it was not really a questionof "enmity", but rather very sophisticated indifference based on afoundation of justifications for why violence against Armenians couldbe understood as "justifiable" -ranging from realpolitik to racialperceptions. During World War I, holding on to Ottomans as allies wasof vital importance and Armenians again were seen as expendable. Itis well documented how German diplomats knew about the genocide inprogress and how the official Ottoman propaganda was believed atfirst. For some part of 1915, the matter was seen as a military one.Then, in the summer, the German embassy in Istanbul fully realizedthat the annihilation of Armenians was planned and in progress. Butdue to the alleged interests of the war, this never translated intoanything but very shy protests. Germany -once more, like in the 1890s-became something of an "enabler" of Ottoman violence against Armenians;only now, on a much larger and more horrifying scale.You wrote that Germany whitewashed the traces of the Armenian Genocidepursuant to the World War I. In that context, is it possible to saythat they were still sharing the same destiny?Already once the German embassy realized that what its consuls inAnatolia were witnessing was "the annihilation of a people", in thesummer of 1915, the German Foreign Office became afraid that whatwas happening to Armenians would be used against Germany after thewar had ended. Entente propaganda at the time alleged that Germany wasbehind the Armenian Genocide. As a reaction, the German Foreign Office,already during the war, began to develop an official line and also toproduce documents showing that it had not only tried to stop genocidein progress but had helped individual Armenians as well. After WorldWar I, the German Foreign Office continued to try to "control thestory", but failed. In the summer of 1919, the German Foreign Officepublished documents on the Armenian Genocide which were meant topositively influence world opinion in relation to Germany's allegedco-conspiracy in the genocide. This publication, however, in factkick-started a large genocide debate in Germany. This genocide debatewould reach its high-point when Talât *****'s assassin stood trialin Berlin and it continued until the Treaty of Lausanne was signed.In the race hierarchy of the Nazis, Armenians were seen as'quasi-Jews'. What is the reason of that?The Nazi view of Armenians was based on the views that had developedat the end of the 19th century in racial anthropology and also inpopular discourse about Armenians. German anti-Armenianism was like acarbon-copy of Central European modern, racial Antisemitism. In racialanthropology and popular racial books, Armenians were portrayed aseither racially related or equivalent to, or even "worse" than theJews. The Nazis merely took previously existing discourses about therace of the Armenians -the "Jews of the Orient" as they had oftenbeen called since the late 19th century in German discourse.It is known that the Nazis could update their race hierarchy as'occasions required', like in the case of Arabs. Did they see theArmenians as 'weak ally' against the Soviets?Despite the Nazi racial views on Armenians -which are documented forHitler himself for the 1920s and the 1930s as well- the Nazis did nottranslate this into active persecution of Armenians in Nazi-conqueredEurope. Armenians presented one of these cases in which the Naziscould set aside their essentialist racial worldview for immediatepolitical and military gains, for a moment at least. Though, ofcourse, it remains unclear what would have happened to German racialanti-Armenianism once the German armies would have been victoriousagainst the Soviet Union.The book prefaces with an anecdote on the famous 'Forty Days in theMusa Dagh' of Franz Werfel. You said that Werfel had written that bookto warn the Jews against their upcoming fate. How could Werfel andEuropean Jews have established an interrelation between the Unionistsand the Nazis? What is its historical and political background?When Werfel wrote his famous "The Forty Days of Musa Dagh", it wasmainly as a warning to Germany against Hitler. He wrote that Armenianswere his "stand-in Jews". For Werfel, it was obvious that the readersof the book would see the parallels between the genocidal politics ofone regime and those of the one that was dawning upon Germany. Themain reason why he expected that was the great genocide debate thathad taken place in Germany around the Armenian Genocide in the early1920s. Probably one of the greatest genocide debates in history beforethe Holocaust. People in Weimar Germany knew very, very well aboutthe Armenian Genocide. During this great genocide debate, the Germanpress had debated motivations and intent for genocide; the executionand ramifications; as well as, shockingly, possible justifications forGenocide for many years. And, importantly, discussing the violenceagainst Armenians and debating the Armenian topic had always alsomeant -to some extent- talking about Jews. Through the racial viewsof German justificationalism and German anti-Armenianism, there hadbeen always a connection to the Jews and the alleged "Jewish Question."Werfel was already on a lecture tour in the winter of 1932/33 inGermany reading from his unfinished manuscript, again to warn Germanyagainst Hitler. He read the chapter in which the German pro-Armenianactivist, Johannes Lepsius, meets Enver ***** in 1915 and tries toget him to stop the genocide in progress. As a newspaper review fromthat winter told: it was clear to the audience in Werfel's readingthat Lepsius was not so much speaking to Enver, but rather to theaudience, to Germany. Werfel was too slow in finishing his grandwarning against Hitler. The novel was only published in late 1933,only to be banned shortly after its publication. Werfel's was mainlya German and a Jewish story. Only due to its timing, it has beenremembered mainly as an Armenian story.http://massispost.com/2016/01/armenians-were-the-jews-of-the-orient-in-german-discourse/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/24/how-the-armenian-genocide-shaped-the-holocaust.htmlThe Daily Beast: Stefan IhrigHISTORY LESSON 01.24.16 12:15 AM ETHow the Armenian Genocide Shaped the HolocaustNowhere was the debate over what was going on in Turkey to the Armeniansmore heated than Germany'and the conclusions drawn would change history.One day in the winter of 1941, as he `walked through the streets of theWarsaw Ghetto,' Hermann Wygoda, `Ghetto smuggler,' tried to make senseof what was happening to him and the people around him: `I wonderedwhether God knew what was going on beneath Him on this troubled earth.The only analogy I could find in history was perhaps the pogrom of theJews in Alexandria at the time of the Roman governor Flaccus ... or themassacre of the Armenians by the Turks during World War I.'Wygoda was not the only one seeing this parallel. The German SocialDemocrats in exile reported continuously on the situation in Germany intheir `Germany reports'. In February 1939 they warned, `At this momentin Germany the unstoppable extermination of a minority is taking placeby way of the brutal means of murder, of torment to the degree ofabsurdity, of plunder, of assault, and of starvation. What happened tothe Armenians during the [world war] in Turkey is now being committedagainst the Jews, [but] slower and more systemically.'We could also mention the famous German-Jewish writer Franz Werfel whoin 1932/1933 wrote his most well-known novel about the ArmenianGenocide, his Forty Days of Musa Dagh, mainly to warn Germany aboutHitler. The book was later extremely popular in the Nazi-imposed ghettosof Eastern Europe.There seems to be something obvious connecting both great genocides ofthe 20th century. Yet, in its hundredth year, the Armenian Genocide isstill a peripheral object in the violent history of the 20th century.Most of the new grand histories of World War I marginalize the topic, ifthey mention it at all. It seems as if the topic is an exclusivelypartisan affair of the Armenian diaspora and a few confused others (likeme). But the Armenian Genocide is an integral part of the history ofhumanity's darkest century. There can be no doubt that it is animportant part of the prehistory of the Holocaust, even if history bookssuggest that the two genocides were separated by a great distance intime and space.Mainstream history writing has not only been reluctant to discuss theArmenian Genocide at all, but even more so to even think about thepossible connections. The alleged and imagined controversy over thefactuality of the Armenian Genocide'or more correctly the denialistcampaign sponsored by Turkey'have contributed to this impression of agreat distance separating this genocide from the Holocaust.Many problems surround the topic and Turkish denialism is but one ofthem. Claims to the uniqueness of the Holocaust and a lack of Nazisources referring directly to the Armenians are others.In fact the sentence attributed to Hitler, and the most famous Naziquote on the matter, apparently epitomizes just that: `Who, after all,speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?' But this issomething of a dead end, if not a distraction from the deeperconnections between the two genocides. For one, it is not entirely clearwhether he said it or not. Some sources of the meeting have it, othersdon't (which, however, does not have to signify that he did not say it).Also, it means something different than some understand it. It is moreabout the fact that nations at war can commit horrible atrocities andget away with it.The relationship between the Armenian Genocide and the Holocaust isapparent in two periods of history. The first is the debate that ragedin Germany regarding the slaughter of Armenians by its ally the OttomanEmpire in the early 1920s. The debate came down in favor of genocide,and by the time the Nazis came to power, violence against the Armenianshad been understood and even outright justified, already for decades.The second period is when the Nazis were in power and looked to thepost-ethnic cleansing Turkey as a role model.Strangely enough, not only does Germany connect the two genocides in itsown history very closely, it is also Germany that offers some historicalclarity on the debate of whether it was a genocide or not.It has been claimed that interwar Germany did not `come to terms' withthe Armenian Genocide and that this somehow made the Holocaust possible.However, the opposite is true: Germany not only came to terms with it,but probably had the greatest genocide debate up to that point in humanhistory. It was rather that the outcome of this genocide debate wasparticularly problematic: it had ended in justifications of genocide andeven with calls for the expulsion of Jews from Germany. And despite adrawn-out debate there had been a marked failure to produce a deeperreligious, humanist, or philosophical analysis, appreciation, andcondemnation of what genocide meant. While most of the politicalspectrum had found solace in the fact that this had been an `Asianthing,' only the political extremes on both ends of the spectrum,radical Socialists, and Nazis realized that this was potentially also a`European thing.'To understand all this one has to take a look at Germany's very ownArmenian history. Germany was not only an ally of the Ottoman Empireduring World War I'at the time the genocide was committed'but had been aquasi-ally as early as the 1890s. And already since Bismarck's times ithad often acted as the Ottomans' European shield when it came to theArmenians. In the 1890s when tens of thousands of Armenians were killedin the Hamidian massacres (1894-1896), this was also a `problem' forGermany, but also an opportunity to further ingratiate itself with theOttomans (economic concessions were the immediate results). But it wasproblematic mainly vis-Ã-vis its own public at home. Pro-Armenianactivists and papers were raising awareness of what had happened in theOttoman Empire and the pro-Ottoman elites were disquieted; the resultwas a propaganda war between both sides waged in the German newspapers.The pro-Ottoman (and anti-Armenian) side seemed to be winning, but themassacres simply did not come to an end. During the last massacres (in1896) a series of essays reporting on the atrocities of the last yearswas published in Germany and for a moment pro-Armenian sentiment seemedto have carried the day.But then, merely two years later, the German Emperor Wilhelm IItravelled to Istanbul. This obvious show of friendship with the `bloody'sultan necessitated a revisiting of the Armenian massacres in Germanyand produced discourses that not only justified the violence against theArmenians but also the German government's silence and continued supportfor the Ottomans. The preeminent German liberal thinker, imperialist,and Protestant pastor Friedrich Naumann even went one step further andargued for an ethic-free German foreign policy, devoted solely tonational self-interest. This was a dynamic that would play out two moretimes in German history, during the genocide as well as after World WarI in a great German genocide debate (1919-1923).During World War I Germany, now officially an ally of the Ottomans,again acted as a shield for violent Ottoman policies vis-Ã-vis theArmenians. However, now this violence reached unprecedented, genocidalheights. While official Germany continued to back their Ottoman ally andeven continued to spew violent anti-Armenian propaganda andjustifications for whatever was actually happening to the Armenians,behind closed doors Germany started to become anxious. Official Germanynow feared that what was happening in Anatolia and Mesopotamia would beused against Germany after the war. And so already in the summer of 1919the German Foreign Office published a collection of documents from itsinternal correspondence on the Armenian Genocide. It was meant to showthe world that Germany was innocent of the charge of co-conspiracy inthe murder of the Armenians, but it inadvertently kick-started agenocide debate in Germany that would continue for almost four years.The publication of this documental record of the Armenian Genocide, withall its gory details, provoked an outcry and condemnations in theliberal and left press in Germany, including attacks on Germany'swartime leaders. At this point large sections of the press alreadyacknowledged what we, today, would term `genocide' and what they called`annihilation of a nation' or `murder of the Armenian people.' But thenfollowed a long year of backlash in which nationalist and formerlypro-Ottoman papers minimized what had happened, focused on the allegedArmenian wartime stab in the back, and justified what the Young Turkleadership had done as `military necessities.'The debate could have ended here, but then, in March 1921, Talt *****,former Ottoman Grand Vizier and Minister of the Interior as well as thewidely perceived author of the genocide, was assassinated in a crowdedBerlin shopping street. Three months later the assassin stood trial inBerlin and was acquitted by a jury ` the trial had been completelyturned around and focused rather on the Armenian Genocide and Talt*****'s role in it than on the actual assassination.Not only shocked by the outcome of the trial but also by all theevidence and testimony produced in the Berlin court, the German pressagain focused on the Armenian Genocide in depth. Discussing the trial,the German papers reproduced a horrifying liturgy of genocidalsuffering. Now the whole German press landscape, including the formerlydenialist papers, came to accept the charge of `genocide' against theYoung Turk leadership. Again, the debate did not come to an end here,another backlash followed. Nationalist papers again offeredjustifications, but now for what even they understood as genocide. Andthis after the German genocide debate had already gone on since 1919 andafter it had included all the ingredients needed for a true genocidedebate: detailed elaborations on the scope, intent for, andramifications of this `murder of a people.' And it was on this note thatthe debate simmered for another two years until the Treaty of Lausannewas signed (establishing modern Turkey).All this would perhaps not be that important, had Germany not beenmerely ten years before Hitler's rise to power: A genocide debate hadnot only taken place, but had ended in justifications for genocide. Eventhen, the true saliency of the topic lay in the racial and national viewof the Armenians held by many of the German commentators: they were seenas the (true) `Jews of the Orient,' either as equivalent to the Jews ofEurope or even `worse.' This German anti-Armenianism was as old asGermany's tradition of excusing violence against the Armenians(especially since the 1890s) and was a carbon copy of modern, racialAnti-Semitism. In this logic, it had been no surprise that in 1922, whenanother two Young Turks were assassinated in Berlin, the nationalistpress connected the Armenian assassins to the German Jewish question.Consciously confusing the two categories, the (hyper-)nationalist presscalled for an `ethnic surgeon' to cut out what was eating away atGermany's flesh.So, who was still talking about the Armenians in the Third Reich?Surprisingly, almost nobody. The Nazis were remarkably silent on thetopic, but were very vocal on what had followed the Armenian Genocide.The rise of the New Turkey and all the accomplishments of Mustafa KemalAtatürk were important ingredients in the Nazi political imagination. Inthe German interwar and Nazi discourses on the New Turkey, one finds achilling propagation of what a post-genocidal country, one cleansed ofits minorities, could achieve: To the Nazis, the New Turkey wassomething of a post-genocidal wonderland, something that Germany wouldhave to emulate. The Nazis were discussing the Turkish model already inthe early 1920s. A German-Jewish newspaper reader and critic ofAnti-Semitism, Siegfried Lichtenstaedter, understood the `Turkishlessons' formulated in Nazi articles (in 1923 and 1924) to mean that theJews of Germany and Austria should be, and had to be, killed and theirproperty given to `Aryans.' He wrote this in his 1926 book Anti-Semitica.In the end it does not matter how important we find the possibleinfluences exerted from the Armenian Genocide on the Nazis'they surelydid not need to learn their murderous business from others. What theydid learn was that there were many people, even in an open pluralisticsociety who would ignore, rationalize, or even outright justifygenocidal violence. Even the Churches did not significantly intervenefor fellow Christians. To paraphrase the impression of a Jewish readerof Werfel's book in the ghettos during World War II: If nobody wouldsave Christians, who would intervene for the Jews? And if Germannationalists could find it in themselves to justify the genocide ofChristians and were not met with much opposition in the German public,who would speak out for the Jews?There are no easy and automatic casual connections from one genocide tothe next, but the Armenian Genocide and its close proximity to theHolocaust illustrate the importance and the pitfalls of how we come toterms with the past. They also illustrate that we are far from done withstruggling to understand the tragic 20th century. This is why theArmenian Genocide finally needs to take its place, and be allowed totake its place, in the bloody history of the 20th century, not onlygenerally in world history, but specifically in European and German history.Stefan Ihrig is the author of Justifying Genocide: Germany and theArmenians from Bismarck to Hitler published by Harvard University Press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 BUNDESTAG TO HOST DISCUSSION ON ARMENIAN GENOCIDE RECOGNITIONFebruary 19, 2016 - 16:14 AMTPanARMENIAN.Net - The issue of Germany's recognition of the ArmenianGenocide will be discussed on February 24, Ermenihaber.am reportsciting Turkish media.According to sources, draft resolutions on the massacres wereintroduced to Bundestag by the Left Party and the Alliance '90/TheGreens. The discussions are set to last 38 minutes.To remind, the German Bundestag had characterized the massacres ofArmenians in the Ottoman Empire as genocide. In order to create acomprehensive text, the German authorities and the opposition hadagreed to transfer the issue to the Foreign Relations and HumanRights Committee.Bundestag Speaker Norbert Lamert, German President Joachim Gauck,as well as Alliance '90/The Greens' co-chairman Cem Ozdemir have atvarious points spoken out on Germany's own share in the slaughter of1.5 million Armenians.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.panarmenian.net_eng_news_206442_&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=NnUL05NefHHx2iT5M20QRK7oOe36DaCh9NGPOW2orSw&s=j7X-Inlp0qmrMfLFesbUZsaUcrQeI3pp4Ax25JVZpks&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Irish TimesFeb 20 2016Justifying Genocide by Stefan Ihrig review: Germany's first taste of genocideAs this gripping, readable study of the Armenian genocide makes clear,Germany long before the Nazis had come to terms with `Völkermord'Lawrence DouglasOn the eve of the Nazi invasion of Poland that began the second WorldWar, Hitler allegedly quipped, `Who, after all, speaks today of theannihilation of the Armenians?' Today, the question has lost itsrhetorical ring ` indeed, a great many people speak of thatannihilation.2015 marked the 100th anniversary of the 20th century's firstgenocide, the killing of perhaps one million Armenians by OttomanTurks. The centenary witnessed an outpouring of books and mediaattention devoted to the mass killing. Turkey's official refusal toaccept responsibility for the atrocities ` and even to acknowledgetheir commission ` continues to make for political turmoil at home andto earn the nation opprobrium abroad.Now comes Stefan Ihrig's fascinating and highly readable account,Justifying Genocide: Germany and the Armenians from Bismarck toHitler, which suggests that Hitler was wrong even at the time.Ihrig, a scholar at the Van Leer Institute in Jerusalem, demonstratesthat the mass killings of Armenians hardly had to wait the better partof a century to seep into the public's consciousness. Far from a crimelong concealed in secrecy, rumour and denial, the genocide was widelyknown and reported on from the time of its commission ` particularlyin Germany, the nation that would soon build aggressively on theTurkish precedent.Germany and Turkey were allies during the first World War, with theOttoman-German alliance ratified on August 2nd, 1914, shortly afterthe outbreak of hostilities in Europe. German diplomats stationed inTurkey knew about the `deportations' of the Armenians from the get-go,and communicated much of what they knew to officials back home.Johannes Lepsius, a Protestant German missionary, published aremarkably detailed account called Report on the Situation of theArmenian People in Turkey, some 20,000 copies of which weredistributed to Protestant vicarages in 1916. Lepsius also lectured toGerman parliamentarians in the Reichstag about the atrocities. AsIhrig observes, `no other government was as well informed about thegenocide in progress as the German government, except of course, forthe Ottoman government itself'.Novel coinageAt first blush, Ihrig's claim might look anachronistic. After all, theword `genocide' did not come into existence until 1944, when RaphaelLemkin, a Polish Jewish adviser to the US war department, introducedthe novel coinage to describe the Nazis' treatment of Jews in occupiedEurope.It is one thing, then, to claim that German officials were aware ofcrimes committed against Ottoman Armenians, and another to say thatthey were aware of the genocidal character of these crimes. Yet Ihrigconvincingly demonstrates that German reports of the day used `fullyfledged `genocide language'', describing the carnage as tantamount to`extermination' and the `annihilation' of a people.Reports even spoke of Völkermord ` `people murder', that anticipatedLemkin's neologism. German officials recognised that Turkishatrocities represented nothing short of a co-ordinated effort todestroy the Armenian people.Admittedly, the average German might have known far less, thanks bothto wartime press censorship and the natural incredulity that greetsreports of stupefying atrocity. But even this changed dramatically inthe postwar years.On March 15th, 1921, in the middle of a crowded street in Berlin,Talt *****, the former Ottoman Grand Vizier and a leading architectof the atrocities, was gunned down by an Armenian student. Seized bythe police, the student, Soghomon Tehlirian, insisted that the victim,and not the assassin, was the true murderer.The trial, staged in Berlin, only lasted a couple of days but stillwas `one of the most spectacular' of the 20th century. The defendantopenly acknowledged that he had committed the act but denied hisguilt. `I have killed a man, but a murderer I was not [sic].' Thisdefence turned matters on their head: `in the end it was the OttomanEmpire and the victim, Talt *****, who were on trial'.Shocking acquittalTestifying on his own behalf, Tehlirian insisted he had been plaguedby images of his slain mother and graphically described the massacreof his family (an incident that historians now know the assassin didnot himself witness). The missionary Lepsius also testified for thedefence, describing Talt's role in organising the mass `deportations'of Armenians. (In a communique, Talt had cynically described thedestination of the deportations as `oblivion'.)The brief trial ended in Tehlirian's shocking acquittal; it is unclearwhether the jury believed the killing was justified or that trauma hadrendered the defendant less than fully responsible for his actions.In any case, the trial was extensively reported in German newspapers,so claims of public ignorance about the genocide were no longercredible by the early years of the Weimar Republic. And yet knowledgedid not necessarily mean condemnation. Rather, Tehlirian's trialsparked a passionate debate within Germany, not about whether thereports of atrocity were true, but whether the atrocities themselveswere justified.Notably, a great many German newspapers, particularly those on thepolitical right, lined up against the Armenians. This was partly acase of nationalist publications defending the actions of an ally. Butthe nature of the defence was chilling, especially when read throughthe filter of German history to come.The killings, German pundits opined, took place during wartime, andwere largely provoked by the Armenians themselves, who constituted, soit was claimed, a fifth column of backstabbers prepared to sabotagethe Turks. Armenians were disparaged as a people without a homelandand any sense of national loyalty: clannish, greedy, shifty andcommitted only to their own power.While it may seem odd that a European nation should ally itself with aMuslim majority against a Christian minority, Ihrig reminds us thatArmenians were viewed less in religious than in racial terms, asconstituting a distinct, and decidedly less savoury type of human.If all this sounds disturbingly familiar, it is hardly coincidence.Ihrig brilliantly lays bare the `confluence' between Germananti-Semitic and anti-Armenian stereotypes. Jews and Armenians weretreated as `Semitic cousins', with the latter playing the role of`quasi-` or even `über-Jews'.To his credit, Ihrig generally avoids drawing any straight line fromGerman debates about the Armenian genocide to the Holocaust. The Naziswere not, he concludes, simple imitators of the Young Turks. ButTurkey had introduced extermination as a way in which a modern nationstate could `solve' problems posed by an unwelcome minority.In spirited fashion, Germany had debated the merits of this solution.And in the decades preceding their own, more ambitious campaign ofgenocide, many right- wing Germans had responded with understanding ifnot outright approval.Lawrence Douglas teaches at Amherst College, US. He is the author mostrecently of The Right Wrong Man: John Demjanjuk and the Last GreatNazi War Crimes Trialhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.irishtimes.com_culture_books_justifying-2Dgenocide-2Dby-2Dstefan-2Dihrig-2Dreview-2Dgermany-2Ds-2Dfirst-2Dtaste-2Dof-2Dgenocide-2D1.2538511&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=Mj7aoaoeA5QazMOoUKjTFC3ywd9aFlfyL-WQxm2L9iM&s=GK98E2y1HmSKf6JAGqZIZIV3lojLSOWSMBDcYVUIdaA&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 ARMENIAN GENOCIDE TO BE COMMEMORATED AT GERMAN BUNDESTAG12:41, 22 Feb 2016Siranush GhazanchyanThe Armenian Genocide will be commemorated at the German Bundestag.Two factions - the Alliance 90 and the Greens will make mention ofthe Armenian genocide 100 years ago.Forty- minutes are provided for the commemoration scheduled forFebruary 25, according to Bundestag's official webpage.The Greens want the Bundestag to adopt a resolution to recognize theTurkish genocide of about one million Armenians this week.The governing coalition of the CDU and SPD were unwilling to submit tothe Bundestag a joint application, although that had been negotiatedin November of the SPD, the CDU and the Greens, Green Party ChairmanCem Ozdemir told the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung. He said "theabsence of a statement is a dowry to Erdogan."https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.faz.net_aktuell_politik_voelkermord-2Dgruene-2Dzwingen-2Dbundestag-2Dzu-2Darmenien-2Ddebatte-2D14081608.html&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=zFIVWTZPD2QAofoN6vdxsxCBXvXH7y4r-dsBp6xUThw&s=KXrfK2glazr6dz-y4WiOa3vGsGmFBZ4oxwesO9c67IY&e=https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.armradio.am_en_2016_02_22_armenian-2Dgenocide-2Dto-2Dbe-2Dcommemorated-2Dat-2Dgerman-2Dbundestag_&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=zFIVWTZPD2QAofoN6vdxsxCBXvXH7y4r-dsBp6xUThw&s=BpMETAfUGLeZh5F6voTui7DhOcRxli33gboZakXhrV0&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 TO VOTE OR NOT TO VOTE: BUNDESTAG TO HOLD A DEBATE ON ARMENIAN GENOCIDE17:34, 22 Feb 2016Siranush GhazanchyanThe German Bundestag is set to hold a debate on the Armenian Genocideon February 25. The Alliance 90/The Greens faction will make mention ofthe Armenian Genocide 100 years ago. Forty-five minutes are allocatedfor the report."There will be a statement followed by a debate," Cem Ozdemir,President of the Greens Party said in an exclusive interview withPublic Radio of Armenia.According to him, the Greens will present a statement, which has thesame emphasis as the draft bill debated with the ruling coalition backin November 2015. Although the parties had reached some common ground,the bill was later prevented by the coalition."Obviously, the political motives are more important for the coalitionthan joint recognition," Mr. Ozdemir said."We want the debate to be followed by voting. However, this is stilluncertain, as we don't know what the disposition of the rulingcoalition is. If no voting follows, the bill will again be sentback to the Commission, where it is doomed to share the fate of anearlier motion submitted on April 24, 2015. It will remain pending,as the ruling coalition is not interested in raising the issue again,"President of the Greens Party said.He added that the debate scheduled for February 25 is of greatsignificance, considering that no other events commemorating thegenocide of Armenians or other ethnic minorities is envisaged in theBundestag this year.The German Bundestag held heated debated on the Armenian Genocide onApril 24, 2015, a day after German President Joachim Gauck used theword "genocide" to describe the events of 1915.While the Greens and the Left Party supported the term 'genocide,' thefederal government and the coalition parties had certain reservations.A single joint resolution is still being worked out. It's unclearwhether the final text will include the word "genocide" or not. It'salso hard to predict when the Bundestag will hold a final voting onthe bill.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.armradio.am_en_2016_02_22_to-2Dvote-2Dor-2Dnot-2Dto-2Dvote-2Dbundestag-2Dto-2Dhold-2Da-2Ddebate-2Don-2Darmenian-2Dgenocide_&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=_aHAGwjMlwfwF1MWabP4lIQ5e3XccviDE38KYmRLbkI&s=CoWRDrUwrhvRBzzTGqVAD0qlXjdjfFgS0mHr9b1H2H0&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 TESSA HOFMANN: BEHAVIOR OF GERMAN AUTHORITIES IN RELATION TO ARMENIAN GENOCIDE IS THE SAME AS IT WAS IN 1915February 24, 2016,YEREVAN ( Armenpress) -- Behavior of German authorities in relationto Armenian Genocide is the same as it was in 1915. Renowned genocidescholar Tessa Hofmann remarked in an interview with Armenpress.Although this topic is on the agenda of the German Parliament for thisThursday, Hofmann highly doubts that the issue will be discussed. Sheexplains her opinion by the relations between Turkey and Germany,which are currently mostly focused on the refugee crisis."In this situation our Foreign Office will do everything possible notto disturb the relations with Ankara - comparable to the situationin 1915, when official Germany sacrificed all human and humanitariancriteria for the sake of Ottoman-German military alliance. Neither theOttoman genocide, nor the ongoing fight against the Kurds in Turkey(with all its 'collateral damage' to the Kurdish civic population)will change this, I am afraid. And the critics of such 'realpolitical'attitudes in this country are not numerous and influential enough tostop it. And even if the possibility of a parliamentary debate onthe Armenian genocide is discussed next Thursday, there is littlechance that the oppositional 'Green' Party gains enough supportamong the ruling coalition of conservatives and Social-Democrats",Tessa Hofmann said.The Armenian Genocide issue will be discussed at the German Bundestagon February 25, paying tribute and honoring the victims of the crimethat took place 100 years ago.The discussion was initiated by the Bundestag "Alliance'90 / TheGreens" party, the co-president of which is Cem Ozdemir, who isTurkish by nationality. The discussion will last 45 minutes."Alliance '90 / The Greens" and its co-president have repeatedlycondemned the Armenian Genocide, urging Turkey to recognize thehistorical facts and come to terms with the reality.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__armenpress.am_eng_news_837050_tessa-2Dhofmann-2D-2Dbehavior-2Dof-2Dgerman-2Dauthorities-2Din-2Drelation-2Dto-2Darmenian-2Dgenocide-2Dis-2Dthe-2Dsame-2Das-2Dit-2Dwas.html&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=s6-zG5oidcZG4CuLQrz6i4WF0o2sbnuLmw5fuTUxvwY&s=TJuWqhWBP0n-YeB3JlMi0hgHwg3W82XKw9TqXYbn_9M&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 The same BS continuous!BUNDESTAG TO VOTE ON NEW ARMENIAN GENOCIDE BILL BEFORE APRIL 2420:39, 25 Feb 2016Siranush GhazanchyanThe German Bundestag held a debate on the Armenian Genocide today butdid not vote on the bill proposed by the Alliance 90/The Greens. Theruling coalition said it's not the proper time to adopt the bill andproposed to continue the discussions in the coming weeks to preparea new finalized document until April 24, 2016.Chairman of the Alliance 90/The Greens Cem Ozdemir agreed to withdrawhis bill on condition that the new document to be agreed beforeApril 24 clearly mentions the events of 1915 as genocide, acceptsGermany's role in the massacre and contributes to the normalizationof the Armenian-Turkish relations.The issue was brought to the agenda by the Alliance 90/The Greens,which has always urged to describe the events of 1915 as 'genocide.'Addressing the Bundestag today, Ozdemir said "the authorities haveno common stance on the issue out of the fear to irritate Erdogan. "Idon't understand why we cannot vote for this bill. We should do thatfor the simple reason of clearing our conscience," he said."Turkey is distorting its own history, while our goal is to establishthe truth. A clear message on the part of Germany could change a lot,"Ozdemir said.Klaus Brähmig of CDU/CSU said, in turn, that "the current Turkishauthorities are not responsible for their ancestors, but can takesteps to improve relations with Armenia.""Today we need no reports criticizing Turkey. Instead, we need stepsthat will contribute to the settlement of the migrants' issue. Judgingfrom our own history, we can say that no matter how actively we inviteTurkey to assess their own past, their people must be ready for it. Itwill happen, when there is no pressure from the outside. Therefore,we cannot vote in favor of this resolution," he said.The bill debated today noted that "the German Bundestag bows to thevictims of forced displacement and massacre of the Armenians andAramaeans, Assyrians and other Christian minorities of the OttomanEmpire, which began 100 years ago. It deplored the actions of thethen Turkish government, almost full annihilation of the Armeniansin the Ottoman Empire.The resolution noted that "the fate of the Armenians stands asexemplary in the history of mass exterminations, ethnic cleansing,deportations and yes, genocide, which marked the 20th century insuch a terrible way." German President Joachim Gauck used the samewording as he addressed a commemoration ceremony on the eve of the100th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide.The bill stated that "An honest appraisal of history is the mostimportant basis for reconciliation."The bill also referred to the German role in the Armenian Genocide,noting that "today's German authorities are obliged to contributeto the resumption of the Armenian-Turkish relations, opening of theshared border."Unlike the resolution adopted by the Bundestag in 2005, the billconsidered today clearly described the events as "genocide."https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.armradio.am_en_2016_02_25_bundestag-2Dto-2Dvote-2Don-2Dnew-2Darmenian-2Dgenocide-2Dbill-2Dbefore-2Dapril-2D24_&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=UtHwYiDAZe0lAKYv64t2PoSv0Z9cbAvy4gZTXr_UWxU&s=ZZJzqVrBAnqsKh6s5KsWbP_qR6H69TDhyE0sJ0MewFk&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Cowards!TAGESSCHAU: FREEZING ARMENIAN GENOCIDE RESOLUTION FOR FEAR OF ENRAGING TURKEY IS COWARDICE20:56, 25.02.2016Region:World News, Armenia, TurkeyTheme: Politics, AnalyticsOur only goal is to keep Turkey by our side until the end of the war,regardless of whether Armenians perish in the process or not. Thissentence made by Germany in the years of WWI is timely after more than100 years. This sentence became more important than Bundestag's callto Turkey to acknowledge the crimes of the Ottoman Empire, MichaelHeussen writes in his article in the German newpaper Tagesschau.According to the article, the German Parliament almost said "yes"to acknowledging the Armenian pogroms of 1915 as a genocide, butGermany is still afraid of enraging Turkey, especially consideringthat the latter has promised to stop the migrant flow in its country."Berlin still doesn't want to lose its ally in Bosporus. Turkey is astate partner; therefore Berlin also keeps silent about the crimes,which are currently taking place in eastern Turkey. This was alsothe case in 1915, and nothing has changed up to now. To the call tostop the crimes against Armenians in the years of WWI, Chancellor ofGermany Theobald von Bethmann Hollweg responded: "Our only goal isto keep Turkey by our side until the end of the war, regardless ofwhether Armenians perish in the process or not.," the author writes.Michael Heussen notes that today Turkey continues to persecute theKurds, while the West keeps silent. "At the moment, Turkey is themost important country for the West in terms of stopping the refugees.Therefore, it wouldn't be constructive to enrage the Turks by aBundestag resolution or official recognition of the Armenian pogromsas a "genocide": this is what politicians think," the author writes,excoriating this standpoint.According to the author, this opinion is an absolute cowardice."Genocide is a genocide, regardless of who committed it. Genocidemust be called by its name. Not only for the Armenians, who havebeen waiting so long for the acknowledgement of the crime committedagainst their ancestors, but also for preventing such crimes. Thus,it's more important than ever for the Bundestag to officially callon Turkey to finally recognize the crime committed by the Ottomans,"the author concludes.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.tagesschau.de_kommentar_armenien-2Dbundestag-2Dvoelkermord-2Dkommentar-2Dheussen-2D101.html&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=71hL-ESZNZbJ9yOfppbSmM5AwfmNRS9Gq11lJazFqWI&s=6hgv7djU7LIIGam9ZJyeDqflsMhzdtLuGjHfJHpJiZ8&e=https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__news.am_eng_news_313769.html&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=71hL-ESZNZbJ9yOfppbSmM5AwfmNRS9Gq11lJazFqWI&s=EcRcLL7qJbqTZm7ZxSnRHVsW_EALhAFYlxJIWXvao0k&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 At the end, the truth will prevail!CEM OZDEMIR IS SURE: BUNDESTAG WILL RECOGNIZE THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDEFebruary 26, 2016 14:22Yerevan /Mediamax/. Armenian National Assembly Deputy SpeakerEduard Sharmazanov, who is in Berlin with a working visit, met withCo-Chairman of the German political party Alliance '90/The Greens,Cem Ozdemir.According to the National Assembly press service, the meeting took partwithin international conference titled "Genocide of the Christiannations in Ottoman and Kemalist Turkey" at Humboldt Universityof Berlin.Eduard Sharmazanov highly appreciated Cem Ozdemir's principal approachtowards recognition of the Armenian Genocide.The two sides attached importance to the necessity of recognitionof the Armenian Genocide by both Bundestag and the internationalcommunity.The parties stated that the discussions on the issue of ArmenianGenocide by German Parliament reiterated that "the condemnation ofthe Armenian Genocide by Bundestag is inevitable".It should be recalled that Cem Ozdemir initiated the discussion ofresolution on recognizing the Armenian Genocide by the Bundestag.- See more at:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mediamax.am_en_news_foreignpolicy_17065_-23sthash.DpbzImrQ.dpuf&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=s_oP1pAbd0-QsspIiM2QbjSlZcQIIBUv5UP-_8kjbU8&s=oGCkA-AgS9Zdz4CnXxZy9K7gijgY4dH0J5IPCgLeQDk&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 ARMENIA MASSACRE: TOO MUCH REGARD FOR TURKEY?Deutsche Welle, GermanyFeb 26 2016The timing is provocative: Just two weeks before the EU-Turkeysummit, the Green Party is putting before parliament a resolutionwhich describes the massacre of the Armenian people 100 years agoas genocide.For the governing coalition, the timing of the Greens' resolutioncouldn't be worse. Because of the refugee crisis, the government istrying to avoid being too hard on Turkey and referring to the massmurder of Armenians a century ago as "genocide."The government is under pressure to noticeably reduce the number ofrefugees coming to Germany. In Chancellor Angela Merkel's strategy,Turkey has a special role as the most significant transit countryfor migrants.On March 7, important negotiations with Ankara at the EU-Turkeysummit are set to take place. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoganis considered to be an irritable negotiating partner and Germany doesnot want to get his back up.According to Armenian accounts, some 1.5 million members of theArmenian minority community were killed between April 1915 and 1917 atthe hands of their Ottoman rulers in what is present-day Turkey. Forits part, Turkey maintains that between 300,000 and 500,000 Armenianswere killed, and that just as many Turks died during the same period.Ankara speaks of an atmosphere of civil war and famine. To this day,the Turkish government reacts with hostility whenever the term genocideis used to describe the killings.Everyone on the same pageA church mass in the Armenian capital Yerivan commemorated the genocidein April 2015The governing coalition takes the same view on the issue as theGreens. At a parliamentary debate in April 2015, parliamentarians wereunanimous in their opinion that the massacre of the Armenian people acentury ago was genocide. German President Joachim Gauck and BundestagPresident Norbert Lammert both used the term to describe the killings.But what was missing was the passing of a parliamentary resolutionthat included the term "genocide." In October, the CDU/CSU, SPD, andthe Green Party finally agreed on its adoption. But the resolutionwas brought before parliament as being solely from the Greens. Thedraft text says that the fate of the murdered Armenians "stands asan example of the mass extermination, ethnic cleansing, expulsion,and even genocide that has so terribly marked the history of the 20thcentury." The text also refers to the "uniqueness of the Holocaust"as well as the "inglorious role of the German Reich" in the massacreof the Armenian people.Criticism from the GreensGreen Party leader Cem Ozdemir has accused the governing coalitionof deferring too much to Turkey and pulling back from the commonresolution.Green chairman Cem Ozdemir says the German government is avoidingthe issue"The resolution consciously stops short of asking the federalgovernment to recognize the genocide in order not to make a big dealof this now," Ozdemir told DW. "You could have easily said, well it'sthe parliament, it's not the government."CDU member of parliament Christoph Bergner clearly stated hisopinion during the debate in April. "I really doubt that we canpresent ourselves in a convincing way and take a clear positionin this discussion if we shy away from using the term 'genocide',"Bergner said. Despite this, he's against the Greens' resolution. "Ourobjections refer to the process, not the content," Bergner told DW."When you're in negotiations with a partner, you try not to burdenthose negotiations," he said with regard to Turkey. He accuses theGreens of using the genocide issue for a partisan maneuver.'There is never going to be a right time'The right resolution at the wrong time? Ozdemir rejects that idea."There's never going to be a right time for this issue. It's beenthe wrong time for a hundred years now. It's just an excuse."Even though it's likely that the resolution from the Greens will fail,Bergner says that doesn't mean the discussion about the Armeniangenocide is over. "I hope that we'll find a better time during thiscoalition to agree on a formulation."https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.dw.com_en_armenia-2Dmassacre-2Dtoo-2Dmuch-2Dregard-2Dfor-2Dturkey_a-2D19076133&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=m32p6hEOI6uO-hgll3OFKJB1MPYhKBtyvt126PpMi7w&s=Tby6l196iUXOTaKT9bZv1wEhx1rkbwFPwkOifLjnDX0&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 BUNDESTAG HAS ALL BASES TO CONDEMN THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE OVER THIS YEAR: SHARMAZANOV21:28, 3 March, 2016YEREVAN, MARCH 3, ARMENPRESS. The discussions of the draft condemningthe Armenian Genocide in Germany's Bundestag indicated that all thefactions accept that massacres of Armenians in Ottoman Turkey, in 1915is genocide and it must be condemned, Vice President of the ArmenianNational Assembly (NA) Eduard Sharmazanov said after the executivebody session of the Republican Party of Armenia (RPA). "There wereno speeches to put the Armenian Genocide under suspicion. Afterthe discussion I met with the author of the draft Cem Ozdemir andVice-President of the German Bundestag Edelgard Bulmahn after a day.They both stated that they are ready to do everything possible forthe Bundestag to condemn the Armenian Genocide," Sharmazanov said,"Armenpress" reports.Sharmazanov added that most of Germany's ruling coalitionrepresentatives expressed the need for recognition and condemnationof the Armenian Genocide. "I believe that there are all the bases forGermany's Bundestag to condemn the Armenian Genocide during 2016,"Sharmazanov concluded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 Joschka Fischer believes that Bundestag will recognize Armenian GenocideApril 6, 2016 18:10http://www.groong.com/news/attachments/msg569012/pngQoB1yMUfGj.pngFormer German Foreign Minister Joschka FischerPhoto: REUTERSYerevan/Mediamax/. Former German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer that Bundestag will adopt a resolution recognizing the Armenian Genocide .“Relations between Europe and Turkey have long been characterized by a deep contradiction. History, too, has divided the two sides, as the dispute over recognition of the Armenian genocide during World War I attests”, says Fisher, in his article “Realism for Europe and Turkey”, written for Project Syndicate.“Relations could deteriorate further this spring, when Germany’s Bundestag votes on a resolution calling for the mass murder of Armenians in 1915 to be categorized as genocide. The motion will most likely be adopted by a large cross-party majority, aggravating tensions with Erdoğan’s government”, noted the German politician.- See more at: http://www.mediamax.am/en/news/karabakh/17584/#sthash.6XD5hJzr.dpuf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 The date is set for genocide motion in Bundestag04.13.2016 NEWSIt is declared that the motion for recognizing the Armenian Genocidewill be voted on June in Bundestag.According to DW Turkish's report, Christian Democratic Union ofGermany (CDU) First Secretary Michael Grosse-Brömer stated that themotion about the Armenian Genocide will be voted most probably on June2.Common motionGreen Party co-chair Cem Özdemir spoke to AFP: “We would like thismotion to be brought to Bundestag sooner. However, there is somethingmore important than the date, which is the fact that all politicalparties will speak the same.”Özdemir also said, “Finally, there will be clear and explicitstatement in Bundestag. Yes, the name of the crime committed againstArmenians in Ottoman era is genocide. Moreover, Germany is alsoresponsible for it.Özdemir: no turning backChristian Democratic Union declared the date of the voting and CemÖzdemir also commented on this: “Christian Democratic Union keeps itspromise. There is no turning back now.”Green Party brought the motion to the parliament on February, but thevoting was postponed, since coalition parties Christian DemocraticUnion of Germany (CDU) and Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD)demanded a common motion.Bundestag discussed a motion on April for the first time, but therewas no voting. While the government avoided using the term “genocide”,President Joachim Gauck and President of Bundestag Norbert Lammertopenly expressed the genocide.Recently, Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan, during the meeting withChancellor Angela Merkel, asked her whether the motion will be broughtto the parliament and Merkel said that it will.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.agos.com.tr_en_article_15001_the-2Ddate-2Dis-2Dset-2Dfor-2Dgenocide-2Dmotion-2Din-2Dbundestag&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=p93Tb90YlntoaPVqw-ntFzrbtDYq8yaNzHVKqxOfDKw&s=_8gIn9Nouo60xVcbSQfJXVJpfSRNi3kkKEt5DIBFbd4&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Bundestag CDU/CSU faction head: What happened with Armenians 100 years ago should be considered Genocide in Germany 13:20, 16 April, 2016 YEREVAN, APRIL 16, ARMENPRESS. The atrocities and persecutions against Armenians in the Ottoman Empire 100 years ago should be considered as Genocide in Germany. This was stated by head of Bundestag CDU/CSU faction Volker Kauder during an interview with Passauer Neue. “The draft resolution on the Armenian Genocide will be discussed in the German Bundestag on June 2. What happened 100 years ago should be considered Genocide,”Armenpress” reports Kauder saying. The Passauer Neue noted that after June 2, the German-Turkish relations may rapidly deteriorate. As a prerequisite to this, the Passauer Neue notes German President Joachim Gauck’s position, who called the events of 1915 Genocide. Bundestag President Norbert Lammert also clearly used the Genocide phrase while speaking on the issue. The discussions in the Bundestag on the adoption of the Armenian Genocide resolution on February 25, 2016 did not lead to voting. Alliance '90/The Greens party, which initiated the adoption of the resolution, recalled the draft for further processing because of contradicting positions. http://armenpress.am/eng/news/843785/bundestag-cdu/csu-faction-head-what-happened-with-armenians-100-years-ago-should-be-considered-genocide.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Genocide debate puts Germany in tough spot with TurkeyApril 24, 2016Last April 24, on the 100th anniversary of what Armenians call theGreat Crime, the Bundestag postponed voting on a similar resolution toclassify the mass killings as genocide. Yet the accompanying debateclearly showed that parliamentarians from all factions in parliamentviewed the massacre as such.(Deutsche Welle) - As Armenia commemorates 101 years since the GreatCrime, Germany is still not sure whether "genocide" is officially theright word. A scheduled early-June debate in the Bundestag couldcomplicate relations with Turkey.April 24 commemorates the 101st anniversary of the events that manyhistorians and a couple of dozen nations commonly refer to as theArmenian Genocide. And, if a plan agreed to by the ruling ChristianDemocrats (CDU) and their Bavarian sister party, the Christian SocialUnion, comes to fruition, Germany could also do so soon. Or at thevery least discuss doing so - once again.The decision by the governing coalition, which includes the SocialDemocrats, was forced when the opposition Greens introduced aresolution in February to recognize the massacre, deportation andstarvation of up to 1.5 million Armenians during the dying days of theOttoman Empire as "genocide."The Greens ultimately pulled the measure after the governing coalitionagreed to work on a joint resolution. That was good timing forChancellor Angela Merkel and her EU counterparts ahead of March'scritical summit to seal a controversial deal on refugees anddeportations with Turkey.The Bundestag will likely take up the debate on June 2 - just beforethe summer parliamentary recess - according to an agreement reached inApril between the Greens and the government.The Great CrimeAs the successor state to the Ottoman Empire, Turkey officially deniesthat the events that started in 1915 amounted to genocide and haslashed out at countries that have officially recognized the term.WhenFrance formally called the displacements and killings genocide in2011, Turkey temporarily recalled its ambassador; it did the samething to Austria last year. Were Germany to formally adopt the term,Turkey could pull its ambassador from Berlin and throw the EUmigration deal into doubt.Last April 24, on the 100th anniversary of what Armenians call theGreat Crime, the Bundestag postponed voting on a similar resolution toclassify the mass killings as genocide. Yet the accompanying debateclearly showed that parliamentarians from all factions in parliamentviewed the massacre as such.German President Joachim Gauck and CDU Bundestag President NorbertLammert both used the term to describe the cleansing of ethnicArmenians from eastern Anatolia. The draft resolution also recognizedGermany's role in the killings as an Ottoman ally in World War I andcalled for a rapprochement between Turkey and Armenia.Avoiding Turkey's wrathFor strategic reasons, the governing coalition opted not to vote onthe resolution last April, and again in October, in order to avoid aconfrontation with Turkey at a time when large numbers of displacedpeople were transiting the country en route to Germany and theEuropean Union.The fact that Germany and the EU have now signed a pact with Turkey onrefugees - a deal that officials in Ankara have repeatedly threatenedto withdraw from - puts additional pressure on Merkel's government.Given Germany's need for Turkey's cooperation with refugees anddeportations, it is unclear how or if a vote in June would proceed.Backing out could set up Merkel forfurther criticism that she iskowtowing to Turkey.Turkey officially refers to what happened as the "Events of 1915" anddenies that the massacres and deportations amounted to genocide. Theofficial line is that ethnic Armenians represented a fifth columnbacked by Russia during World War I, and that the mass deportation andaccompanying Armenian deaths were not premeditated or intentional - akey requirement in the legal definition of genocide.Officials in Turkey put the number of Armenians who died at around500,000, while Armenia puts the number at about 1.5 million out of aprewar population of some 2 million. Turkish officials also point outthat hundreds of thousands of Muslims died from combat, starvation,cold and disease in eastern Anatolia during the war. Armenians havedocumented systematic mass murder, organized banditry, raping ofwomen, pillaging of property and other atrocities.Nearly 30 countries have formally recognized the massacres asgenocide. Keen to avoid irking a key ally, the United States hasavoided using the term, although more than 40 US state legislatureshave passed genocide resolutions.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.dw.com_en_genocide-2Ddebate-2Dputs-2Dgermany-2Din-2Dtough-2Dspot-2Dwith-2Dturkey_a-2D19210270&d=CwIBaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=napG3Z5ZsRA2ecaXegA9mcHo7L3k2V7v-bUtEBr1hZc&s=KrPm3pl3RJf_Dp4Mg3Lrl_R297IfCQ-gRq93RDy45fA&e=https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.horizonweekly.ca_news_details_85074&d=CwIBaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=napG3Z5ZsRA2ecaXegA9mcHo7L3k2V7v-bUtEBr1hZc&s=2xZsfa9yo-P_pXtXWBYhUxc1fiq2mBN0IOpnXyWSRV0&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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