gamavor Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Yes, France did it and wiped the shame from Europe's forehead! Now, it is clear that denying the Genocide is rasist slur and therefore cannnot be protected by freedom of speech. Thus, Europe have sensed (finally) the danger;) http://tert.am/en/news/2011/12/22/billapproval/ The bill criminalizing the denial of the Armenian Genocide has received the the French National Assembly's approval. Under the legal act proposed by lawmaker Valerie Voyer, anyone on the territory of France denying the fact of the Armenian massacres in the Ottoman Empire in the WWI period will face one year in prison and a fine of 45,000 Euros. A similar bill adopted by the National Assembly on October 16, 2006 was never approved by the Senate. In May, 2011, the upper chamber of the French parliament rejected the proposal by a vote of 74 in favor and 196 against. Ankara has numerously slammed France over the bill, saying that its passage would have irrevocable consequences on the French-Turkish relations. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan recently said the initiative is against the Turkish state, Turkish nation and the Turkish community of France. In a letter to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, the Erdogan said the adoption of the bill would neghatively affect the political, economic and cultural relations between the two countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nvard Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 ayooooooooooooooI watched the whole voting process!!!!yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 The French Senate few minutes ago passed the LAW! Armenians celebrating in front of the Senate:))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) The French Senate few minutes ago passed the LAW! Armenians celebrating in front of the Senate:))) Congratulations!!!I feel so vindicated and gratified.If everything fails... notice how they sing in unison and on key. ԶԱՐԹԻՐ ԼԱՕ ՄՌՆԻՄ ՔԶԻ !!!! ԼԱՕ is a contraction of ԼԱ ՏՂՕ/ Լա Տօ /Ծօ Տղայ. Edited January 23, 2012 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nvard Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 mi kenac chexmenq? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Շնորհաւորում եմ,Կենացը խմենք եւ յետոյ ինքերս հարց տանք, ի՞նչ արեցին կամ կարողացան անել աշխարհի գերպետութիւնները, Ցիւրիխում, երբ կանգնեցին Դաւութօղլուի եւ Նալբանդեանի յետեւ: Ոչինչ: Ֆրանսիան եւ ողջ աշխարհը չեն կարող մեր նահատակների իրաւունքները տալ մեզ, չեն կարող Արեւմտահայաստան եւ Կիլիկիա տալ մեզ: Մեր ներկայի, մեր ողջ ու ապրող Հայաստանի Հանրապետութեան համար չկարողացան մի պարզ սահմանի բացում ապահովել... Մեր իրաւունքը միայն մեր բազուկներով կարող ենք ունենալ... սպասել, որ ընտրութեան ժամանակը մօտենայ եւ Ֆրանսիայում նման բան լինի՞... դա մեզ հետ (Արեւմտահայաստան, Ցեղասպանութիւն, Հայութիւն) կապ չունի, դա կապ ունի Ֆրանսիայի ներքին քաղաքական կեանքի հետ: Յուսամ սառը ցնցուղ չեղաւ: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Now that this thread under the catrgory of Internationl I can freely paticipate.From Groong;See what those sewer rats in stanbol are saying.Note below that they are using the G word without any qualifiers or quotation marks.Is this writer (Murat Yetkin) Armenian??Is the “donkey manure” hitting the fan and blowing in their faces?Highlights mine. US NEXT IN LINEby MURAT YETKİN Hurriyet Daily NewsJan 23 2012Turkey It is not hard to tell what is going to happen next; I mean afterthe Armenian debate in the French capital. It is the Armenian debate in the U.S. capital. It is almost an annual custom in Washington DC, like the cherryblossom festival, heralding the month of April. April 24 is the anniversary of a telegram by the Ottoman InteriorMinister, Talat PaÅ~_a who ordered the provincial governors andcommanders - especially in the Eastern region to which the TsaristRussian army was advancing - to forcibly deport the Armenianpopulation, because an Armenian faction was collaborating with theRussians; that was in 1915, in the middle of the World War I. Before and during that deportation campaign hundreds and thousandsof citizens of Turkey under the Ottoman Sultanate were killed ordied from neglect; not only Armenian Christians, Muslim Turks andKurds as well. But it is that unfortunate telegram which caused theArmenian community deported from the Ottoman Turkey to ask from theRepublican Turkey (who overthrew the Sultanate) to recognize thatgrand human disaster as a genocide and pay the dues. Turkish governments' attitude up until the ruling Justice andDevelopment Party (AK Parti) could be summarized as: "Turks didn'tdo it, Armenians did;" naive and could not convince most of thegovernments and parliaments who recognized the disaster as genocide. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan followed a different line, toacknowledge the human sufferings and trying to bridge political tieswith Armenia as a goodwill gesture, but could not go all the way up;if you ask to advisers in Ankara it is mainly because of seeking tofind a compromise from the opposite end. So almost every February or March for decades, the Armenian lobby,which is among the most active in U.S. Congress when it comes toaffairs with Turkey, finds a way to submit a bill to the House ofRepresentatives in order to mark April 24 as "Armenian genocide day." As of itself, it may only be a credibility blow to Turkish politics. But it is more than that; it has political and legal consequences. Itis a fact that the Supreme Court has turned down a federal court'sruling which said Turkey should compensate the losses of an insurancecompany's clients due to the acclaimed genocide; the Supreme Courtcannot make decisions contradictory to the state policies of the U.S.,said the Supreme Court judges. This is because it was President Barack Obama, like his predecessorswho stopped the process at the Senate level with the justification ofprotecting U.S. interests in the whole region where Turkey lies. Thisimportant ally has been supporting many U.S.-led internationaloperations from Afghanistan to Iraq, from Kosovo to Somalia after all,has been a "Plural democracy and free economy in a Muslim society"example for the Arab Spring and recently agreed to host a U.S.-operatedNATO radar site as a vital part of a global Missile Shield system towhich Iran and Russia react. This is election year in the U.S., the Israeli lobby is not likely tosupport Turkey against the Armenian and Greek ones and Obama mighthave a more difficult time this year than before, despite declaringErdogan among his best political friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 http://media.pn.am/media/set/1/540/big_cced2922f.jpg You can replace Erdogan with Clinton. It will still make sense:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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