EZ Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 Who would be interested to ocasionally meet at the ICC to play some online chess? (There is also correspondence (e-mail) chess for which I have a very nice program but it's not as exciting as online chess of course. ) Elly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 I play at www.instantchess.com Its pretty good, quick chess, but you only get 64 free games, after you goto either sign up (for a fee) or keep playing bonus games . My nick there is 'onslaught', if ur ever around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 You can check out some of my games here . Though I have been playin pretty crap latelly. And this is quick chess so stupid mistakes are very common Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Posted December 5, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 No need to apologize up front. I suck at it myself. But whatever the results, it's good brain gymnastics and it's the only game I like to play. I tried the instantchess, but I need to download this JAVA plugin first and I'm not sure if I want to. Temporarily I'm on this prehistoric computer that only has the ICC chess software installed. I do not want to overburdain this granny. So if you want to meet me at ICC instead send me a pms to set a date and time so you slaughter me. Actually, I'm sure that more people here play chess and I know a free chess program that connects you through ICQ to play realtime games with each other. So even a little private forum chessclub would be possible. Is that an idea? I could ask the creator of the program (who stopped developping it at some point) for permission to improve and adjust it a little with the garantee that it won't be used for commercial purposes. Maybe one of the programmers on the forum would like to take the job on as a challenge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 try pogo.com My nick is GamavorBG. Toooo many gamavors out there:-)))) which is basically very healthy for the humanity! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Posted December 6, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2002 quote:Originally posted by gamavor:try pogo.com My nick is GamavorBG. Toooo many gamavors out there:-)))) which is basically very healthy for the humanity!I forgot what gamavor means, gamavor. I tried to look it up, but it's not easy to find something in my Armenian dictionary, what type of "k" should I search for? Maybe if I find it I would be able to understand your joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted December 6, 2002 Report Share Posted December 6, 2002 Gamavor means hereditary complainer unsatisfied with the current state of affairs who want to rule over disobeying masses of people. Kind of Don Qihote without clear agenda who is very conceded and picky (aesthetic) when it comes to women, knowing pretty well that nothing good will come out of that. Gamavor is a person who still ponders over the question "Why my chess rating cannot go over 1600"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Posted December 6, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2002 I'm still gonna check your description of the gamavor myself, with Armenians you never know whether they are joking or not But so you went up to almost 1600. That's half a grandmasters level. Not bad for a gamavor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Posted December 7, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 Let me explain what I had in mind... I'm not in need to find chess partners. I have been a member of the ICC for some years now and I expect to be for many more. Through ICC I can play chess with it's 35.000 members (and many anonymous guests) of all levels from all over the world, including (grand)masters, take lessons from them, watch and analyse games, chat, etc. It was through this ICC, so through chess, that I came in contact with 'the Armenian'. Armenia and chess seem to be each others loyal partners. A long time ago, somewhere on internet I read in a Dutch text: "Armenia is a chess country". I am convinced, still, that titled Armenian players could also have the function of being some sort of ambassadors for Armenia, if... Well, I would be interested, but I'm not Armenian and my chess sucks. I was thinking of chess as a mean for forum members who share this interest to meet in a different way. The Hye Forum is an internet community. The members may not ever see or meet each other in real life. They meet on the forum and talk, fight or joke. So why not add "play" to that. Chess in this case would be very appropriate I think. I already mentioned a free program, called Buddy Chess, that will list and connect other online Buddy Chessers who are using ICQ. A while ago I tried it out with a friend and it worked. If you would like to test it, you'll find it somewhere on the ECtool site. (Sorry, the old computer I'm using at the moment doesn't let me get to the exact location.) Andres Valverde from Spain started developing (free) correspondence chess program(s) years ago because, as a chess lover, he wanted to make it possible for anyone to play chess over internet for free. His Buddy Chess is such a program for online (realtime) chess. Unfortunately Andres Valverde does not have the intention to put anymore time into developing Buddy Chess further. ECTool is a very nice correspondence chess program by Andres Valverde. The moves you make on the chess board will automatically be put into PGN-format so you can e-mail it. Incoming moves will also be translated automatically into moves on your board when you open a game. And the program has options to run tournaments, which makes it suitable for the purpose I had in mind here. I hope some of you chess lovers will care to check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted December 7, 2002 Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 Elly jan, kamavor (East Armenian), and gamavor (West Armenian) is a voluntary worker, vrijwilliger. In war time, a kamavor is a voluntary fighter/soldier. Sorry for ruining your joke Gamavor (jan)! Edit: it's the hard "k" you should look for btw (the one that looks like a 4). [ December 07, 2002, 05:53 AM: Message edited by: nairi ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Posted December 7, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Accelerated:I play at www.instantchess.com Its pretty good, quick chess, but you only get 64 free games, after you goto either sign up (for a fee) or keep playing bonus games . My nick there is 'onslaught', if ur ever around.I was on instantchess and tried to see if you are there, but it doesn't show a player list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Posted December 7, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 quote:Originally posted by gamavor:[QB]try pogo.com QB]I signed up there, but I don't have time to check all those rooms to find you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Posted December 7, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 quote:Originally posted by nairi:Elly jan, kamavor (East Armenian), and gamavor (West Armenian) is a voluntary worker, vrijwilliger. In war time, a kamavor is a voluntary fighter/soldier. Sorry for ruining your joke Gamavor (jan)! Edit: it's the hard "k" you should look for btw (the one that looks like a 4).Thanks Nairi. Oh, I think that 4 is a medium hard "k". In my book the K as in "qez" is said to be the hardest. Inch pind sovorel Hayeren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted December 7, 2002 Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 Did someone say that non-Armenians were not interested in learning Armenian? You're probably the 80th Dutch person I know of who's learning Armenian, and the list keeps growing (Azat and Sip, don't even dare!)! quote:Oh, I think that 4 is a medium hard "k". In my book the K as in "qez" is said to be the hardest. I guess it depends on how you define hard. Is your book West Armenian by any chance? Because in East Armenian "q" is soft/aspirated, like the English "k/c", whereas the 15th letter of the alphabet (4) is more like the Dutch "k". Is there another "k" that I don't know about?? quote:Inch pind sovorel Hayeren.You mean "djvar" "Pind" means "solid" or "hard", but not "difficult". I only hope that you don't think Hollanderen is a hesht lezoo to learn! Btw, did you choose your new nickname consciously, or do you have no idea what it means in Armenian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted December 7, 2002 Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 quote:Originally posted by nairi:... and the list keeps growing (Azat and Sip, don't even dare!)!I wouldn't even think of it quote:I guess it depends on how you define hard.Not gonna say a WORD. Must resist temptation ... keep mouth shut ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 quote:Originally posted by EZ: Inch pind sovorel Hayeren. Elle, bravo on your efforts to learn Armenian. Nairi jan, I am always nice. Not like Sip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 quote:Originally posted by nairi:Btw, did you choose your new nickname consciously, or do you have no idea what it means in Armenian?Okay, being the bonehead in the group, I have no clue what it means either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 I read it as "eeee zeeee" as being the opposite of HARD ... D'oh I said it again. [ December 07, 2002, 07:50 PM: Message edited by: Sip ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 quote:Originally posted by nairi:Btw, did you choose your new nickname consciously, or do you have no idea what it means in Armenian?Sip jan, I got that as well. It's the Armenian part that Nairi mentioned that I do not get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 I am guessing she is reading it as "yez". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Posted December 8, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 quote:Originally posted by nairi:I guess it depends on how you define hard. Is your book West Armenian by any chance? Because in East Armenian "q" is soft/aspirated, like the English "k/c", whereas the 15th letter of the alphabet (4) is more like the Dutch "k". Is there another "k" that I don't know about?? I have 2 books: The first one I bought is "Armenian-English/English-Armenian" by Diana and Susanna Aroutunian. On the back it says: "the only Eastern Armenian dictionary on the market". But it's difficult to use this as a fast dictionary because you would have to be familiar with the Armenian alphabet. I did use it to write in (phonetic) Armenian using the English-Armenian part of the book. Later I found a French Eastern Armenian course of "La methode Assimil", called "L'Armenien sans peine". I ordered it and got 3 cd's plus a Learning book. From that book I learned the Armenian alphabet and I also got my knowledge of the K's from it. By the way, I have not been studying Armenian for a while, so I got stuck at beginners level and I forgot a lot in the meanwhile. Oh, I concentrated on Eastern Armenian, didn't want to make things even more difficult and confusing. I only hope that you don't think Hollanderen is a hesht lezoo to learn! Dutch is also difficult, I know. But I'm not complaining about Armenian. To me it's a very mysterious and cute language and I would still love to learn it. Btw, did you choose your new nickname consciously, or do you have no idea what it means in Armenian? EZ are my initials. It did cross my mind that it could have a meaning in Armenian, but I didn't bother to look it up. I hope it doesn't mean anything bad. Looked it up now... could only find "esh", but that's not it, pffffffffff ... or is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Posted December 8, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 Sip. You are reading it the right way, like EaZea. About the pind part... you must have a djvar kjank. How old are you? My 16 year old son seems to be more in control than you. [ December 08, 2002, 04:40 AM: Message edited by: EZ ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Posted December 8, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Azat:Elle, bravo on your efforts to learn Armenian.Maybe visiting the forum regularly again will stimulate me to take it up seriously once more. Huys unem. Or is it "husov unem"? How do you say "I hope so" in Armenian (Eastern please )? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Posted December 8, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 quote:Originally posted by nairi:Did someone say that non-Armenians were not interested in learning Armenian? You're probably the 80th Dutch person I know of who's learning Armenian, and the list keeps growing (Azat and Sip, don't even dare!)!Nairi, would you happen to know of any Eastern Armenian classes in Holland that I could take without having to register as a student at the university of Leiden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 quote:Originally posted by EZ:EZ are my initials. Now I feel bad! Try looking under the "ye" letter (5th letter)... quote:To me it's a very mysterious and cute language and I would still love to learn it.Hmm. If you say so... Either way, bravo on your efforts! quote:Nairi, would you happen to know of any Eastern Armenian classes in Holland that I could take without having to register as a student at the university of Leiden?Tough one. There's classes in The Hague at Abovian Cultural Center for adults every two weeks on Sundays (Eastern Armenian), and there's Ani in Dordrecht. I can send you details via e-mail if you want. I'm not sure about other places. Perhaps you could try Ararat in Almelo or Amsterdam, but I'm not sure if they give classes to adults; also, they're mostly Western Armenians. I could try and find out if you want though. quote:Huys unem. Or is it "husov unem"?How do you say "I hope so" in Armenian (Eastern please )?The first one is right, the second almost right. You can say: "Huysov em". Good luck! Nairi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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