A.R. Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 My Full Name John {Hovig} Dinkjian I have nothing to hide. Turkey "Rewards" Israeli LeadersBy Accusing Them of GenocideBy Harut SassounianCalifornia Courier Publisher Bulent Ecevit, the Prime Minister of Turkey, in a rare moment of candor,expressed last week the true feelings of most Turks about Israel. Withoutmincing his words, Ecevit accused Israel, a close military allyof Turkey, of committing "genocide" against the Palestinians. "The wholePalestinian State is being destroyed step by step," he said. "A genocideagainst the Palestinian people is being carried out before the eyes of theworld."By making these unusually harsh remarks, Ecevit was voicing the sentimentsof a large number of demonstrators who in dozens of Turkish cities havebeen protesting for several days against the Israelimilitary's brutal attacks on Palestinian towns. The Turkish protestors wereburning Israeli and American flags and shouting "Filthy Jews" and callingIsrael's Prime Minister "Murderer Sharon." They were demanding that Turkeycancel a $668 million military contract with an Israeli State defense firmand not allow Israel to participate in joint military exercises to be heldin Turkey later this month.Also lambasting Israel's Prime Minister was Turkey's Foreign MinisterIsmail Cem who described Sharon's actions against the Palestinians as a"violation of human rights." The Anadolu Agency quoted Temel Karamollaoglu,a Member of the Turkish Parliament, as saying, "if we remain silent againstmurders committed by Israel, our future will also be jeopardized. TheSoutheastern Anatolia region was included in the land promised to the Jews.Zionists were behind the resolutions about the so-called Armenian genocide.Palestinian suicide commandos defending their homes, lands and familiescannot be considered terrorists. In fact, Israel became a terrorist State.The United States has been extending support to Israel, [while]Israel has been committing genocide against the Palestinian people."Karamollaoglu urged that Turkey recall its Ambassador from Israel.Another Member of Parliament, Bulent Arinc, was reported to have said,"recent developments have revealed that there is no difference betweenAdolf Hitler and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon." The Chairman of theTurkish Labor Confederation (Hak-Ish), Salim Uslu, was quoted as saying,"the world which reacts against the fascism of Hitler and Milosevic shouldalso stop Sharon's fascism." A Turkish newspaper even ran an editorialunder the headline, "Adolf Sharon!"The most offensive protest action, however, was taken by the TurkishLiberal Democrat Party (LDP) which is led by prominent businessman BesimTibuk. According to the Turkish newspaper Yeni Safak, a group of LDPsupporters gathered in front of Istanbul's main post office to mail a boxof soap to Sharon "in order to remind him of the Holocaust committed byHitler against the Jews." A spokesman for LDP said, "Sharon reminds us ofHitler. As we know, Hitler burned the Jews in ovens and made soap out ofthem. Sharon is behaving just like Hitler towards the Palestinians…. That'swhy we are sending soap to Sharon!"For several years, as successive Israeli leaders refused to acknowledge theArmenian Genocide, Armenians and many Righteous Jews have been telling theIsraeli government that Turkey should not be viewed as atrusted ally and that Israel should not be unduly concerned about a Turkishbacklash because of the recognition of the Armenian Genocide.Last week's events proved that Israel's assessments of Turkey were wrong onboth counts. The widespread daily demonstrations and the many anti-Israelistatements made by high-ranking Turkish officials indicatethat most Turks view Israel with hatred and contempt. The only exception isthe Turkish military which has forged a strategic alliance with Israel,ignoring the public's sentiments. The civilian "leaders" of Turkey, eventhe President and the Prime Minister, dare not speak against the "wishes"of the Turkish Generals who rule the country with an iron fist.As demonstrated in a recent Gallup Poll, the overwhelming majority of theTurkish public does not share the pro-western orientation of the country'smilitary or civilian leadership. The Israeli government hasbeen foolishly relying on the assurances offered by a handful of despoticTurkish Generals. Therefore, in a critical situation, Israel would not beable to rely on its strategic Turkish "ally" to come to its rescue. As wesee, the Prime Minister of Turkey is accusing Israel of genocide at a timewhen no Turkish interests are at stake. Imagine how much more hostile theTurks would become should Israel oppose a Turkish issue!The second mistake is the excessive Israeli concern, some may say paranoia,about offending Turkey. Within 24 hours of accusing Israel of genocide, theTurkish Prime Minister, under pressure from Israel andAmerican Jews, backed away from his "bold" statement and offered an apologyfor having offended the Jewish people. He said that his words weremisunderstood and that he should not have used the term "genocide" todescribe the Israeli attacks on the Palestinians in the West Bank.According to Israeli and Turkish press reports, Ecevit's statement wouldhave serious consequences for Turkey. The Jerusalem Post wrote thatEcevit's accusation of Israel "has led to a serious crisis between thetwo strategic allies…. Israel has launched simultaneous diplomaticinitiatives in Ankara and Tel Aviv…. Israel has asked Ankara for an'explanation' of the comments, warning that Ecevit's announcement couldaffect relations between the [two] countries…. American Jewish lobbiesknown for their support of Turkey in the face of Armenian and Greek lobbiesin Washington, are preparing to voice their concerns to Turkey.They reportedly delivered a message to the Turkish Embassy in Washingtondecrying Ecevit's statements. They added that the comments are particularlyunseemly in consideration of their attempts to defendTurkey from Armenian claims of genocide, and in light of the Jewishgenocide suffered at the hand of the Nazis. Last year, Jewish-Americanlobbies played a key role in stopping a Congressional bill foreseeing anArmenian genocide law, urging US authorities to allow arms sales forTurkey. A key member of a prominent Jewish-American organization told TheJerusalem Post that his organization plans to write a letter to voice theirdisapproval." Furthermore, some Turkish journalists indicated theirdispleasure that Ecevit used the word genocide so close to April 24, theanniversary of the Armenian Genocide. The Turkish leaders were clearly toldthat next time around they may not be able to count on the assistance ofthe "Jewish lobby" in the United States to prevent the passage of acongressional resolution on the Armenian Genocide.This episode clearly shows that the powerful Israeli government has beenunnecessarily "afraid" of Turkey. In reality, the Turkish Prime Ministerwas the one that got scared of his own "brave" anti-Israeli statement.This proves that Turkey needs Israel and the American Jews much more thanthey need Turkey! Significantly, in the first public clash between Israeland Turkey, the Turks are the ones who backed down and publicly apologizedto the Israelis!Rather than celebrating a victory, the Israeli leaders should hang theirheads low in shame. In a way, they got their just desserts. For many years,they have been trying to appease Turkey by opposing the recognition of theArmenian Genocide. Ankara is now "handsomely rewarding" them by accusingthem of genocide! This is Turkey's gratitude. As the proverb says, "if youlie down with dogs, you get up with fleas!" [ April 09, 2002, 10:51 PM: Message edited by: A.R. ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khodja Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 A relative of the Dinkjian who makes beautiful music? I can't beleive it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 AR send him a freekin PM. Stop opening threads that have no value to the rest of the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.R. Posted April 10, 2002 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 That Domino is going around saying am not Armenian so I prove I`am Armenian. Look at all the attacks he has said about me below. Why don`t you ask for Domino to get a "PM"? It seems that people can attack me and get away with it without even once getting a warning. I will put a article about the Genocide. I told MOS JAN that I will obey all the rules [ April 09, 2002, 10:55 PM: Message edited by: A.R. ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.R. Posted April 10, 2002 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 You mean Uncle Ara? No relation to the Great Ara Dinkjian but he might be a distant cousin for all I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 AR, I feel like you guys have turned this forum to your own sandbox and are playing childish games. Domino did not start this whole mess. You and Anoush came from no where and started attacking specific people because you have problems against them from other forums. Keep those problems in those forums. We do not need them here. If you have something valuable to add please feel free, as I know many members of this forum read most of the posts in teh genocide thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.R. Posted April 10, 2002 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 Azat, if you look at the first post I made on this forum I was attacked first so it is they who started with the childish games. I will not attack anyone but when I see anyone attcked on this forum I will speak up just to be fair. I just want to post about Armenia and the Genocide that all nothing else and if people want to debatethats fine but when I post about Jewish involvment in the Armenian Genocide and about Christianity I`am attacked for some reason. I wonder why? [ April 09, 2002, 11:18 PM: Message edited by: A.R. ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASALA Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 quote:Originally posted by A.R.:That Domino is going around saying am not Armenian so I prove I`am Armenian. Look at all the attacks he has said about me below. Why don`t you ask for Domino to get a "PM"? It seems that people can attack me and get away with it without even once getting a warning. I will put a article about the Genocide. I told MOS JAN that I will obey all the rulessorry i was away for some time. - AR - if you copy and paste news of asbarez.com and web-links on fedayis and karabagh that makes you an Armenian ??? is this haw you think haw you can be an Armenian kids kids kids [ April 10, 2002, 12:01 AM: Message edited by: ASALA ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 A.R. be nice and show the size of your tool elsewhere, we are sure it's big enough... PS" as your name, you ain't fooling me, with the other fake names you gave before... what would prove its the good one this time ? It should have been better to PM you this right ? Yes maybe. [ April 11, 2002, 07:49 AM: Message edited by: Domino ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.R. Posted April 10, 2002 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 No what makes you Armenian is the blood flowing in your veins and your love for Armenia. A last name ending in IAN also helps alot DINKJIAN is mine whats yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khodja Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 This Sassounian guy is BRILLIANT. THE Armenian statesman of our age. Let's find some political office to get him elected to, either in California or in the ROA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASALA Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 only IAN ? No Yan, no unts, no tsiy, no ak, no + 20 more ???? whalak Gawwad, imin azq@ kidnal kuzes ??? join the line kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khodja Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 This Sassounian guy is BRILLIANT. THE Armenian statesman of our age. Let's find some political office to get him elected to, either in California or in the ROA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASALA Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 quote:Originally posted by hagarag:This Sassounian guy is BRILLIANT. THE Armenian statesman of our age. Let's find some political office to get him elected to, either in California or in the ROA.it will not hapen, his Hampig Sasunyans brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.R. Posted April 10, 2002 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 Did I say only IAN? I said the Blood running through your veins. Kid? Am older than you Child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASALA Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 dzo savor nayehima asang yeghav m`? ehh asdvadz parqed shad, dzo mezi madov tsetsrer en hima al tuun zis mad bid tstsene ??? lak - Kid? Am older than you Child. - hos naye manch`s yereqen yergayn` vertusr ta qna qichigm` khelq jorve. qez al panm`e e`esen ne e`ese hyeformen tzerq`t dver en. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 A.R.'s post had 1,219 words, 6,530 characters (without counting spaces), 7,751 characters (including spaces) for a total of 117 lines. I figured I will return the favor by posting some of the stuff I read today. Hope you find it just as useful Believe me, if I start posting the stuff I have to read everyday, Hyeforum's disk spaces will fill up faster than you can say "All Jews are Garbage". Actually, you may enjoy reading the stuff below. It probably has more useful content than most of what you have posted so far (with all due respect of course). By Chappell Brown EE TimesApril 9, 2002 (8:42 a.m. EST) BURLINGTON, Mass. — Armed with a simplified mathematical approach to public-key encryption, NTRU Cryptosystems Inc. here is introducing intellectual property that can add security to virtually any circuit. The most recent product based on the approach is a circuit block that can be added to small wireless products such as smart cards and point-of-sale ID tags. NTRU claims the approach is as secure as the popular RSA public-key encryption system but is computationally much simpler. "Public-key cryptography is necessary in systems of high scale or high security. Their primary advantage is that they allow for encryption keys to be widely distributed without fear of compromise," said Scott Crenshaw, chief executive officer of NTRU. "NTRU's core technology solves a fundamental problem for public-key cryptography." Until now, Crenshaw said, "public-key systems required very large numbers of gates — 50,000 gates, 100,000 gates — or in software, it required a Pentium-class machine. NTRU's system, on the other hand, fits into a very small number of gates and can run on a low-end microcontroller." Two approaches The company's product line, GenuID, is segmented into two areas: software running on low-end microcontrollers and a processor core that can be inserted into designs. "We run the software implementation faster than RSA can run on a Pentium," claimed Crenshaw, referring to the most popular form of public-key encryption, RSA (named for its inventors: Ron Rivest, Adi Shamir and Leonard Adleman). Tool kits both for implementing readers and for the back-end system are also available. RSA's contactless smart cards sell for $3 to $5, Crenshaw said, while GenuID chips sell for 50 cents to $1. "This is significant for manufacturers — it opens up new application areas that require security," he said. The different approach to encryption began with a group of math professors at Brown University. They realized that a more computationally efficient version would open a huge market for low-end security. Jeffrey Hoffstein, Joseph Silverman, Jill Pipher and Daniel Lieman — who co-founded NTRU — studied the conventional approach and realized that the basic strategy, based on integer arithmetic, took a toll computationally. While integer math is well-understood and relatively easy to implement in software, the underlying computer models are complex in terms of the conventional structure of digital CPUs. Modular math The RSA uses numbers with 1,024 bits. In contrast, the NTRU algorithm is based on byte boundaries that even an 8-bit microprocessor can handle. The algorithm is based on modular arithmetic, which operates on arrays of bytes. Public-key cryptography depends on an algorithm that is easy to run in one direction only. For example, multiplying two large prime numbers is easier computationally than finding the two prime factors of some number that has been generated in this way. Thus, if an encryption system is based on prime-number computational asymmetry, it will be tough for a code cracker to take a brute-force approach to deducing the original two numbers. Using known benchmarks for computer systems, a cryptologist simply needs to determine two prime numbers that are large enough to make the prime factoring algorithm impossible to execute in a reasonable amount of time. Other hard-to-solve mathematical problems have also been used to create computationally asymmetrical algorithms. With the NTRU approach, the basic computational context goes from integer arithmetic to polynomial algebra. Rather than encode information as digits representing numbers, NTRU uses sequences of integers that form the coefficients of a polynomial. That simplifies computation. "The NTRU system only uses adds and shifts, which are easier to perform than full integer arithmetic," Crenshaw said. The security algorithms are 2,000 times faster and 50 times smaller than other public-key methods, he said. The system can attach a secure digital "signature" to a document that can be verified as valid using only a public key. The private key is represented by two small polynomials, which generate a very large system of polynomials. The public key is derived from the two private-key polynomials using convolution and is able to generate the same set of polynomials as the two private-key polynomials. A digital message is then hashed and encoded as a pair of polynomials that are essentially random. A pair of polynomials in the set generated by the private keys is computed from the private key so that they are within a predetermined, close bound to the hashed message. One of the nearest-neighbor polynomials then becomes the digital signature. The original message is sent along with the signature, and the recipient, after using the same hashing algorithm, is able to verify that the resulting polynomial pair is within the predetermined distance from the polynomials representing the digital signature. No brute force The security of the system is ensured by the difficulty of finding close polynomials in a large collection of polynomials. Someone attempting to fake the digital signature might be able to find a pair of polynomials close enough to the hashed document to pass the verification step, but doing that by brute force becomes computationally impossible with only moderately long key sequences. In fact, the key sequences can be as short as 1,024 bits, conforming to the size of keys used by RSA encryption. The underlying polynomial operations are computationally very easy, however, which is what makes the method easy to implement in digital systems. The high speed and small computational requirements are ideal for radio-frequency applications that need some type of security. A current example is Mobile Corp.'s Speed Pass, which allows motorists to purchase gas simply by holding a small RF tag near an antenna on a gas pump. The system verifies the driver's ID and credits the purchase to the driver's account. In this case, the details of the purchase and the public key need not be secure, but a digital signature is required to verify that the purchase was made by the owner of the account. NTRU has received $38 million in financing from a variety of investors, including Texas Instruments Inc. and Sony Corp. [ April 10, 2002, 12:49 AM: Message edited by: Sip ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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