Yervant1 Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Robert Fisk: Armenian Orphans were `Turkified', Nazi-Style2010/02/27 | 11:22 http://hetq.am/en/world/27534/world Here's a piece from the notebook of Robert Fisk that appeared in theFebruary 27 edition of The Independent. I am back in Beirut. A Sunday, and Missak Keleshian, an Armenianresearcher - actually, he's in love with film and photographs and is atechnician by trade - is showing an original archive movie on theArmenian genocide. It was made by German cameramen in 1918 and 1920. Never before shown.I sit at the back of the big Armenian hall in the Beirut suburb ofDbayeh and the camera tracks across a terrible wasteland of dry hills.Southern Turkey - or western Armenia, depending on your point of view- just after the 1915 genocide of one and a half million Armenians atthe hands of the Ottoman Turks. And a woman comes into focus. She is sitting in the muck and holding her child - alive or dead, Icannot tell. She is weeping and wailing and there before our eyes isthe 20th-century's First Holocaust - which our precious US PresidentBarack Obama dare not even call a genocide lest he offends Turkey. Literally moving proof. Later footage shows 20,000 Armenian orphans inBeirut, 30,000 in Aleppo. Where are their parents? Ask not Obama. In one extraordinary scene, the orphans of the First Holocaust aresitting at a breakfast table two miles in length. I am both mesmerizedand appalled. They smile and they laugh at the camera. Dr Lepsius, a German working for Near East Relief - how swiftly thegood Germans who cared for the Armenians turned into more dangerouscreatures - holds the children in his arms. Outside an orphanage, other children plead for help. Then there is apicture of an orphanage run by the Turks in Beirut in 1915, in whichthe children, Nazi-style, were `Turkified', given Muslim names toeradicate their identity. Enough. This will be a big report in The Independent. But there is along, panning shot across Beirut. It is Lebanon, 1920; there are tents for the Armenians but the sweepof film shows the port. There are steam ships and sailing ships andthe long coast which I see each morning from my balcony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 ROBERT FISK: LIVING PROOF OF THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE IndependentTuesday, 9 March 2010UK The US wants to deny that Turkey's slaughter of 1.5 million Armeniansin 1915 was genocide. But the evidence is there, in a hilltop orphanagenear Beirut It's only a small grave, a rectangle of cheap concrete marking itout, blessed by a flourish of wild yellow lilies. Inside are thepowdered bones and skulls and bits of femur of up to 300 children,Armenian orphans of the great 1915 genocide who died of cholera andstarvation as the Turkish authorities tried to "Turkify" them in aconverted Catholic college high above Beirut. But for once, it isthe almost unknown story of the surviving 1,200 children - betweenthree and 15 years old - who lived in the crowded dormitory of thisironically beautiful cut-stone school that proves that the Turks didindeed commit genocide against the Armenians in 1915. Barack Obama and his pliant Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton -who are now campaigning so pitifully to prevent the US Congressacknowledging that the Ottoman Turkish massacre of 1.5 millionArmenians was a genocide - should come here to this Lebanese hilltopvillage and hang their heads in shame. For this is a tragic, appallingtale of brutality against small and defenceless children whose familieshad already been murdered by Turkish forces at the height of the FirstWorld War, some of whom were to recall how they were forced to grindup and eat the skeletons of their dead fellow child orphans in orderto survive starvation. Jemal *****, one of the architects of the 1915 genocide, and - alas- Turkey's first feminist, Halide Edip Adivar, helped to run thisorphanage of terror in which Armenian children were systematicallydeprived of their Armenian identity and given new Turkish names,forced to become Muslims and beaten savagely if they were heard tospeak Armenian. The Antoura Lazarist college priests have recordedhow its original Lazarist teachers were expelled by the Turks andhow Jemal ***** presented himself at the front door with his Germanbodyguard after a muezzin began calling for Muslim prayers once thestatue of the Virgin Mary had been taken from the belfry. Hitherto, the argument that Armenians suffered a genocide has restedon the deliberate nature of the slaughter. But Article II of the1951 UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crimeof Genocide specifically states that the definition of genocide -"to destroy in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial orreligious group" - includes "forcibly transferring children of thegroup to another group". This is exactly what the Turks did in Lebanon. Photographs still exist of hundreds of near-naked Armenian childrenperforming physical exercises in the college grounds. One even showsJemal ***** standing on the steps in 1916, next to the young andbeautiful Halide Adivar who - after some reluctance - agreed to runthe orphanage. Before he died in 1989, Karnig Panian - who was six years old whenhe arrived at Antoura in 1916 - recorded in Armenian how his own namewas changed and how he was given a number, 551, as his identity. "Atevery sunset in the presence of over 1,000 orphans, when the Turkishflag was lowered, 'Long Live General *****!' was recited. That wasthe first part of the ceremony. Then it was time for punishment forthe wrongdoers of the day. They beat us with the falakha [a rod usedto beat the soles of the feet], and the top-rank punishment was forspeaking Armenian." Panian described how, after cruel treatment or through physicalweakness, many children died. They were buried behind the old collegechapel. "At night, the jackals and wild dogs would dig them up andthrow their bones here and there ... at night, kids would run out tothe nearby forest to get apples or any fruits they could find - andtheir feet would hit bones. They would take these bones back to theirrooms and secretly grind them to make soup, or mix them with grainso they could eat them as there was not enough food at the orphanage. They were eating the bones of their dead friends." Using college records, Emile Joppin, the head priest at the LazariteAntoura college, wrote in the school's magazine in 1947 that "theArmenian orphans were Islamicised, circumcised and given new Arabor Turkish names. Their new names always kept the initials of thenames in which they were baptised. Thus Haroutioun Nadjarian wasgiven the name Hamed Nazih, Boghos Merdanian became Bekir Mohamed,to Sarkis Safarian was given the name Safouad Sulieman." Lebanese-born Armenian-American electrical engineer Missak Kelechianresearches Armenian history as a hobby and hunted down a privatelyprinted and very rare 1918 report by an American Red Cross officer,Major Stephen Trowbridge, who arrived at the Antoura college afterits liberation by British and French troops and who spoke to thesurviving orphans. His much earlier account entirely supports thatof Father Joppin's 1949 research. "Every vestige, and as far as possible every memory, of the children'sArmenian or Kurdish origin was to be done away with. Turkish nameswere assigned and the children were compelled to undergo the ritesprescribed by Islamic law and tradition ... Not a word of Armenianor Kurdish was allowed. The teachers and overseers were carefullytrained to impress Turkish ideas and customs upon the lives of thechildren and to catechize [sic] them regularly on ... the prestigeof the Turkish race." Halide Adivar, later to be lauded by The New York Times as "the TurkishJoan of Arc" - a description that Armenians obviously questioned -was born in Constantinople in 1884 and attended an American collegein the Ottoman capital. She was twice married and wrote nine novels- even Trowbridge was to admit that she was "a lady of remarkableliterary ability" - and served as a woman officer in Mustafa Ataturk'sTurkish army of liberation after the First World War. She later livedin both Britain and France. And it was Kelechian yet again who found Adivar's long-forgottenand self-serving memoirs, published in New York in 1926, in whichshe recalls how Jemal *****, commander of the Turkish 4th Army inDamascus, toured Antoura orphanage with her. "I said: 'You havebeen as good to Armenians as it is possible to be in these harddays. Why do you allow Armenian children to be called by Moslim [sic]names? It looks like turning the Armenians into Moslims, and historysome day will revenge it on the coming generation of Turks.' 'Youare an idealist,' he answered gravely and like all idealists lacka sense of reality ... This is a Moslem orphanage and only Moslemorphans are allowed.'" According to Adivar, Jemal ***** said that he"cannot bear to see them die in the streets" and promised they would go"back to their people" after the war. Adivar says she told the general that: "I will never have anythingto do with such an orphanage" but claims that Jemal ***** replied:"You will if you see them in misery and suffering, you will go to themand not think for a moment about their names and religion." Which isexactly what she did. Later in the war, however, Adivar spoke to Talaat *****, the architectof the 20th century's first holocaust, and recalled how he almost losthis temper when discussing the Armenian "deportations" (as she putit), saying: "Look here, Halide ... I have a heart as good as yours,and it keeps me awake at night to think of the human suffering. Butthat is a personal thing, and I am here on this earth to think of mypeople and not of my sensibilities ... There was an equal number ofTurks and Moslems massacred during the [1912] Balkan war, yet theworld kept a criminal silence. I have the conviction that as longas a nation does the best for its own interests, and succeeds, theworld admires it and thinks it moral. I am ready to die for what Ihave done, and I know that I shall die for it." The suffering of which Talaat ***** spoke so chillingly was all tooevident to Trowbridge when he himself met the orphans of Antoura. Manyhad seen their parents murdered and their sisters raped. Levon, whocame from Malgara, was driven from his home with his sisters aged12 and 14. The girls were taken by Kurds - allied to the Turks - as"concubines" and the boy was tortured and starved, Trowbridge records. He was eventually forced by his captors into the Antoura orphanage. Ten-year-old Takhouhi - her name means "queen" in Armenian and she wasfrom a rich background - from Rodosto on the Sea of Marmara was putwith her family on a freight train to Konia. Two of her two brothersdied in the truck, both parents caught typhus - they died in the armsof Takhouhi and her oldest brother in Aleppo - and she was eventuallytaken from him by a Turkish officer, given the Muslim name of Muzeyyanand ended up in Antoura. When Trowbridge suggested that he would tryto find someone in Rodosto and return her family's property to her,he said she replied: "I don't want any of those things if I cannotfind my brother again." Her brother was later reported to have diedin Damascus. Trowbridge records many other tragedies from the children he foundat Antoura, commenting acidly that Halide "and Djemal [sic] *****delighted in having their photographs taken on the steps of theorphanage ... posing as the leaders of Ottoman modernism. Did theyrealise what the outside world would think of those photographs?" According to Trowbridge's account, only 669 of the children finallysurvived, 456 of them Armenian, 184 of them Kurds, along with 29Syrians. Talaat ***** did indeed die for his sins. He was assassinatedby an Armenian in Berlin in 1922 - his body was later returned toTurkey on the express orders of Adolf Hitler. Jemal ***** was murderedin the Turkish town of Tiflis. Halide Edip Adivar lived in Englanduntil 1939 when she returned to Turkey, became a professor of Englishliterature, was elected to the Turkish parliament and died in 1964at the age of 80. It was only in 1993 that the bones of the children were discovered,when the Lazarite Fathers dug the foundations for new classrooms. Whatwas left of the remains were moved respectfully to the little cemeterywhere the college's priests lie buried and put in a single, deepgrave. Kelechian helped me over a 5ft wall to look at this place ofsadness, shaded by tall trees. Neither name-plate nor headstone markstheir mass grave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yervant1 Posted March 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Thanks Aratta here is the whole show to watch, pay attention to the body language of the liars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yervant1 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 ROBERT FISK SUGGESTS COMPILING LIST OF OTTOMAN TURKS WHO SAVED ARMENIANS DURING 1915 GENOCIDE AZG DAILY09-11-2011 "Armenians should honor those Turks who saved Armenian citizensduring the Armenian Genocide. Dialogue can start also from there,because they too were Turks living in the Ottoman Empire," said TheIndependent columnist and Middle East correspondent Robert Fisk,speaking to Turkish daily Radikal in Turkey. "I wrote about the Armenian Genocide in my book [The Great War forCivilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East] and now it's beingtranslated into Turkish. Yes, I know there is a risk that Turkishreaders might focus only on these chapters without giving importanceto the others. But I have to say, there are more Turks now speakingfreely about their Armenian relatives and grandparents. So I recommendcompiling a list of Ottoman Turks who saved Armenian citizens duringthe 1915 genocide. And I'm recommending this to not only Armeniansbut also Turks. They are obliged to honor these people because theyrescued the consciousness of Turks. After all, both Germany andEngland confessed their genocides and nothing happened [to them]. Turkey is a brave country," he said. According to epress.am, Fisk mentioned that to speak about and rememberthe Armenian Genocide will not make Turkey an EU member, but, accordingto Fisk, it has to be in the "must list" of conditions for Turkey'sascension into the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted October 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Further proof emerges of Turkey's genocideROBERT FISKhttp://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/further-proof-emerges-of-turkeys-genocide-8877411.htmlSunday 13 October 2013The Turks are preparing to smother the 100th anniversary of theirHolocaust against the Christian Armenians of the Ottoman Empire in 1915To other, earlier refugees. The Turks are preparing to smother the100th anniversary of their Holocaust against the Christian Armeniansof the Ottoman Empire in 1915 with commemorations of their victoryover the Allies at Canakkale (Gallipoli) the same year. But each monthbrings yet further proof - in the testimony of Westerners - of whatTurkey still officially denies: that the genocide of the Armenians wasa fact of history.Now come the memoirs of Alec Glen, a British army doctor of the1914-18 war - written privately for his sons, but published by hisfamily - which record the further agony of the Armenians.Entitled In the Front Line: A Doctor in War and Peace, Dr Glen'saccount includes the fate of the Armenians of Caucasia as the Turkstried to spread their pan-Turkic rule to the east in 1918 - after theoriginal massacre of one-and-a-half million Armenians three yearsearlier. Marching through north-western Iran towards Baku, Dr Glenwrites of how his British-Indian force began to pass several thousandArmenian refugees in a day.`It was an amazing and tragic sight ... now and then we passed at aroadside a dying person, or one already dead and half-eaten by dogsand jackals... we lifted some of the younger ones who might recover onto the mules and carried them forward to the next village.`Salisbury Craig [a fellow British doctor] told me later that heattended an old refugee in the road who, before he died, gave him aleather belt full of sovereigns, which he asked him to spend to helpthe refugees.'Greater love hath no man... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yervant1 Posted April 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 The Christian tragedy in the Middle East did not begin with IsisROBERT FISKSunday 5 April 2015A hundred years on from the Armenian genocide, and a Christianminority is again sufferingOne summer's day in 1990, I walked into a beautiful Crusader chapel inKeserwan, a gentle mountainside north of Beirut, where an old CatholicMaronite priest pointed to a Byzantine mosaic of - I think - SaintJohn. What he wanted to show me was the holy man's eyes. They had beenstabbed out of the mosaic by a sword or lance at some point inantiquity. 'The Muslims did this,' the priest said.His words had added clarity because at that time the LebaneseChristian army General Michel Aoun - who thought he was the presidentand still, today, dreams of this unlikely investiture - was fighting ahopeless war against Hafez Assad's Syrian army. Daily, I was visitingthe homes of dead Christians, killed by Syrian shellfire. The Syrians,in the priest's narrative, were the same 'Muslims' who had stabbed outthe eyes in the ancient picture.I remember at the time - and often since - I would say to myself thatthis was nonsense, that you cannot graft ancient history onto thepresent. (The Maronites, by the way, had supported the earlierCrusaders. The Orthodox of the time stood with the Muslims.)Christian-Muslim enmity on this scale was a tale to frightenschoolchildren.THE POPE CONDEMNS THE WORLD'S SILENCE OVER PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANSAnd yet only last year, as shells burst above the Syrian town ofYabroud, I walked into the country's oldest church and found paintingsof the saints. All had had their eyes gouged out and been torn intostrips. I took one of those strips home to Beirut, the painted eyes ofthe saints staring at me even as I write this article. This was notthe sacrilege of antiquity. It was done by ghoulish men, probably fromIraq, only months ago.Like 9/11 - long after Hollywood had regularly demonised Muslims asbarbarian killers who wish to destroy America - it seems that ourworst fears turn into reality. The priest in 1990 cannot have livedlong enough to know how the new barbarians would strike at the saintsin Yabroud.HOW ONE YAZIDI GIRL FLED THE CLUTCHES OF ISISISIS WARNS OF THE 'END OF CHRISTIAN PRESENCE' IN MIDDLE EASTCOPTIC CHRISTIANS IN EGYPT BEHEADED BY MILITANTSNote how I have not mentioned the enslavement of Christian women inIraq, the Islamic State's massacre of Christians and Yazidis, theburning of Mosul's ancient churches or the destruction of the greatArmenian church of Deir el-Zour that commemorated the genocide of itspeople in 1915. Nor the kidnapping of Nigerian schoolgirls. Not eventhe very latest massacre in Kenya where the numbers of Christian deadand the cruelty of their sectarian killers is, indeed, of epic,Hollywood proportions. Nor have I mentioned the ferocious Sunni-Shiawars that now dwarf the tragedy of the Christians.Soldiers standing over skulls of victims from the Armenian village ofSheyxalan in 1915, believed to be victims of the Armenian HolocaustButthe Christian tragedy in the Middle East today needs to be re-thought- as it will be, of course, when Armenians around the worldcommemorate the 100th anniversary of the genocide of their people byOttoman Turkey. Perhaps it is time that we acknowledge not only thisact of genocide but come to regard it not as just the murder of aminority within the Ottoman Empire, but specifically a Christianminority, killed because they were Armenian but also because they wereChristian (many of whom, unfortunately, rather liked the Orthodox,anti-Ottoman Tsar).And their fate bears some uncommon parallels with the Islamic Statemurderers of today. The Armenian men were massacred. The women weregang-raped or forced to convert or left to die of hunger. Babies wereburned alive - after being stacked in piles. Islamic State cruelty isnot new, even if the cult's technology defeats anything its opponentscan achieve.In Kuwait last week, a good and thoughtful Muslim, an Americanuniversity graduate - within the al-Sabah family and prominent in thegovernment - shook his head with disbelief when he spoke of IslamicState. 'I watched the video of them burning the Jordanian pilotalive,' he told me. 'I watched it several times. I had to, because Ihad to understand their technology. Do you know they used seven cameraangles to film this atrocity? We could not compete with this mediatechnology. We have to learn.'Iraq crisis: Yazidi nightmare on Mount SinjarAnd this is true. The West - that amorphous, dangerous expression -has still not understood the use of this technology - especially theuse which the cult makes of the internet - nor have the Muslim Arabimams who should be speaking about the fearful acts of Islamic State.But most are not, any more than they denounced the 1980-88 Iran-Iraqwar, when around a million Muslims killed each other. Because theywere on Saddam's side in that war. And because the Islamic State'sideology is too obviously of Wahabi inspiration, and thus too close tosome of the Gulf Arab states.The crimes of Islamic State are as brutal as any committed by theGerman army in the Second World War, but Jews who converted were notspared Hitler's plan for their extermination. What the Islamic Stateand the 1915 Ottoman Turks have in common is a cruelty based onideology - even theology - rather than race hatred, although that isnot far away. After the burning of churches and of synagogues, therubble looks much the same.The tragedy of the Arab world is now on such a literally Biblicalscale that we are all demeaned by it. Yet I also think of Lebanonwhere the old priest showed me his mosaic with the missing eyes andwhere the Lebanese Christians and Muslims fought each other - with thehelp of many foreign nations, including Israel, Syria and America -and killed 150,000 of their own people.Yet today, Lebanese Muslims and Christians, though still politicallydeeply divided, are protecting each other amid the gale-force windsaround them. Why? Because they are today a much more educatedpopulation. It's because they value education, reading and books andknowledge. And from education comes justice. Which is why, whencompared to Lebanon, the Islamic State is a nation of lost souls.http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/the-christian-tragedy-in-the-middle-east-did-not-begin-with-isis-10157239.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 The Independent, UKFeb 21 2019 This new history of the Christian genocide during the Ottoman Empire sounds a dark warning for the future Is it possible for a people to be so inured to cruelty that they changed, that their acts of sadism could alter their humanity? Robert Fisk Middle ,East Correspondent Israeli historian Benny Morris doesn’t do things by half. The footnotes of his new book on the 30-year genocide of Christians by their Turkish rulers, cowritten with his colleague Dror Zeevi, take up more than a fifth of the 640-page work. “It was nine years, a long haul,” he admitted to me this week, with an audible sigh over the phone. And he talks about the involvement of Ataturk in the later stages of the genocide of around 2.5 million Christians of the Ottoman empire; how “religions do drive people to excessive violence” – he has in mind the Turks, Isis, the Crusades – and even condemns the Arabs for their inability to criticise themselves.The mere title of the Morris-Zeevi book, The Thirty-Year Genocide: Turkey’s Destruction of Its Christian Minorities 1894-1924, is going to have the Turks enraged, from Erdogan down. The Armenians and other Christians will dispute his apparent claim that he has only just discovered that their slaughter lasted for 30 years – others have talked of the Armenian genocide of 1915 bookended by the late 19th-century massacres in Turkey and the post-1915 killing of surviving Armenians and Greeks, Assyrians and others. And the Arab world will challenge his view that the holocaust (my word) of Christians was more motivated by Islam than Turkish nationalism.Having written about the genocide of the Armenians for 35 years, I have doubts that the actual call for “jihad” in the Turkish Ottoman empire unleashed at the start of the First World War was as ferocious as Morris makes it out to be. Muftis were indeed told they were in a holy war against Christians – but not against German Christians, Austro-Hungarian Christians, neutral Christians or allies of the Central Powers (Bulgaria, for example). Many Muslim worshippers, sitting on the carpets of mosque floors, must have shaken their heads in puzzlement at these caveats. Well, one way was to notice the German officers training the Ottoman army, the German diplomats and businessmen who witnessed the genocide of the Armenians with their own eyes, and wrote home about it. Hitler asked his generals who now remembered the Armenians just before invading Poland in 1939.But again and again, I was brought up short by the sheer, terrible, shocking accounts of violence in Morris’s and Zeevi’s work. “Strident religiosity” moved through the Muslim lands, write the authors.The date: 1895. The place: Severek. The witness: Armenian survivor Abraham Hartunian. “The first attack was on our pastor [Mardiros Bozyakalian]. The blow of an axe decapitated him. His blood, spurting in all directions, spattered the walls and ceiling with red. Then I was in the midst of the butchers. One of them drew his dagger … Three blows fell on my head. My blood began to flow like a fountain … The attackers [were] sure that I was dead … Then they slaughtered the other men in the room, took the prettier women with them for rape …”Now it is July 1915. The place: Merzifon. The witness: missionary JK Marsden. “They were in groups of four with their arms tied behind them and their deportation began with perhaps 100 … in a batch … they were taken about 12 miles across the plains, stripped of their clothing and, in front of a ditch previously prepared, were compelled to kneel down while a group of villagers with knives and axes quickly disposed of them. For a week, this was repeated until 1,230 of the leading Armenian men had been disposed of.”In January 1920, YMCA secretary CFH Crathern was in Marash. The wife of an Armenian pastor had reached his hospital. “She was bleeding … from three bullet and three dagger or knife wounds while a child of 18 months had been taken from her breast and slain with a knife, and an older girl killed with an axe. To add to the sorrow of it, this woman was pregnant and had a miscarriage as soon as she reached the hospital.” The woman died the following day. I have repeated above only a few of the less bloody episodes from the 30 years. I will spare readers the chopped off fingers, the thousands of raped girls, the priests beheaded or burned on crucifixes.In the final annihilation of the Armenians, an American missionary spoke of “minds obsessed with Muslim fanaticism seven times heated”. Turks, he wrote, had “become drunk with blood and rapine, and plunder and power, and he will be a different man from what he was before the atrocities”. Benny Morris thinks it was more to do with a mixture of modern nationalism and the decline of “Islamic polity”.I discussed all this with him. Is it possible for a people to be so inured to cruelty that they changed, that their acts of sadism could alter their humanity? Religions drive people to excessive violence, he said again, and then repeated this as “excessive sadism”. Morris agreed that the Romans were cruel, but they were pagans. “In terms of religion, the Romans were amateurs. Abrahamic religions drive people to excess.” Jews had avoided this. Palestinians will disagree.There is certainly a frightening geographical scope to the killings. Many thousands of horrors were perpetrated in Mosul, Raqqa, Manbij and Deir ez-Zor, names grimly familiar from the Isis torments of 2014 onwards.Why, one keeps asking, didn’t the Christians leave after 1924? But of course, they had been urged to return to settle in Cilicia and in Mesopotamia and Syria by the French and British – who left; and thus the Christian descendants waited for the next generational bloodletting.The Turks were not the only killers, and Kurds also killed the Christians for the Turks, as Ukrainians killed the Jews for the Nazi Germans. At one point in Morris’s text, a group of Circassians plait a rope 25 yards long from the hair of young women they have killed, and send it as a present to their commander.Mustafa Kemal Ataturk gets pretty well trashed in this volume. “There are accounts of him saying in 1922 that, ‘Our aim is to get rid of the Christians’ – he said this in a number of conversations,” Morris contends. “He gave orders, and men in his later government were responsible.” But if this 30-year history of blood was fuelled by “Muslim fanaticism”, there are “good Turks” in the book. In the first massacres, government officials arrested Essad Bey, an “honest, impartial and tolerant” judge who tried to help the Christians. There is a heroic Turkish doctor who throws out his sick Turkish soldiers from a hospital and replaces them with Armenian refugees. Missionary Tacy Atkinson hoped to meet the doctor one day “in the Kingdom of Heaven”. There are others. It’s true that the Greek Christians have fewer historians than the Armenians. Tens of thousands of Greeks were transported to Greece in return for an equal number of Muslims – official agreements kept the massacres a trifle smaller – but Morris and Zeevi give too little attention to the awe in which the Nazis held Ataturk’s people.Ataturk himself cared little for Islam: he smoked and womanised, and was a nationalist before he was a Muslim. The Nazis admired his “Turkified” non-minority republic. When he died, the front page of Volkischer Beobachter was fringed in black.The authors briefly compare the Jewish Holocaust and the Armenian genocide – I prefer the terms Jewish Holocaust and Armenian Holocaust – and there are some already published parallels. Armenians might be spared if they would convert to Islam or marry Muslim men. Jews could not save their lives by converting. The Turkish massacres were more sadistic. I rather think the German-inspired slaughter could be just as bad in the Second World War: witness the head-chopping at the Jasenovac camp on the Croatian-Bosnian border. Persecution of the Jews under the Nazis lasted at most 12 years, but persecution of Christians in Ottoman territories 30 years.German civilians played little role in the Jewish Holocaust. Turkish civilians played a far greater role. If 2.5 million Christians is the correct figure for those murdered in the 30 years – Morris warned me that it cannot be accurately tallied, and I’m sure he’s right – at least six million Jews were killed in the 1939-1945 period, and so it took the Nazis five times as few years to slaughter more than twice as many human beings. The Turks simply didn’t have the industrial tools to kill more Christians more quickly, because these mechanics were unavailable at the turn of the 19th and 20th centuries. But working on this basis, how many people will be killed in the future – and how quickly – with new technology?https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/genocide-christian-armenian-holocaust-ottoman-empire-jewish-palestinian-history-a8790316.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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