Guest Posted July 27, 2000 Report Share Posted July 27, 2000 Invisible or AbandonedGay & Lesbian Armenians Search for Acceptance By HRAIR SARKIS SARKISSIAN It's a banquet at Sportsmen's Lodge in Studio City, California. The hall is elegantly decorated with, among other things, several tri-color flags. The attendees are dressed to the nines, enthusiastically dancing the circle dance as a disc jockey plays Aram Asatrian's popular Hai em yes, Hai es du [i'm Armenian, you're Armenian.] It's just one more dinner dance in the Diaspora's largest Armenian community. With one difference. The banner overhead reads: Armenian Gay & Lesbian Association (AGLA) Second Annual Banquet.Those in attendance range in age from 16 to 60. There are about 200 attorneys, teachers, homemakers, insurance agents, architects and students in the hall. They have two things in common: they're Armenian and they're homo***ual."Gay and lesbian Armenians are often faced with one of two painful decisions," says Azad, founder of AGLA. "Live your life the way you feel you were created and stay away from the Armenian community for fear of persecution, or stay in the Armenian community and deny your ***ual identity in order to gain acceptance." But for many, these choices have become unacceptable. As a result, some have started to create their own communities.AGLA, the first of three Armenian gay and lesbian organizations in the US, was founded in 1997. "For years, I tried to find other Armenian gays and lesbians. I knew they had to be around," says Azad. She placed an advertisement in a Los Angeles gay and lesbian publication announcing the foundation of AGLA and its first meeting at her home. Within two weeks, she received over 200 calls. "They were all in disbelief. Some thought it was a joke, others thought it was a set-up. A group of 15 started to meet and soon grew to more than 80. I was overwhelmed. These were kids in their 20s who had given up on ever being accepted by other Armenians. They would sit around and talk for hours." Ultimately, the discussions always led to how the Armenian community treats them, how they might tell their parents and what would happen if they did.This was a subject with which Azad herself was painfully familiar. Born in Baghdad to a family of eight children, she knew early on that she was different from her sisters and identified more with her brothers. "I used to steal my brothers' shorts and wear them in hiding, away from my mother," she remembers. Azad's internal battle continued for years even after moving to Los Angeles with her family. "I used to be very sad and miserable. I felt like a freak. I was constantly questioning why this was happening to me. But there was no getting away from it."After a great deal of pressure from her family to get married, Azad finally told them that she was a lesbian. "It was a nightmare. All hell broke loose," says Azad, haltingly, the pain still evident eight years later. Her older brother pulled a gun on her. Her mother told her she would go to hell. "My mom was mostly concerned about what to tell people if they found out," she recounts tearfully. "I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I asked them if their concern about what to tell people was more intense than their love for me. They had no answer." After Azad's oldest sister convinced the brother to put down the gun, they told her to leave and not to come back. "As far as they were concerned, I didn't exist. They said they didn't have a sister named Azad anymore," she adds."We used to be so close and now I was alienated, considered dead. I agonized a lot. I missed them so much," continues Azad, quietly. "This is one of the reasons I started AGLA. I didn't want others to be alone going through what my family put me through." Azad has seen similar behavior in other families as well. "When I try to help families deal with their gay and lesbian kids, I often hear them say that they would rather see the child dead than live in shame. The outside pressure is so strong, it doesn't allow families to take a minute and think about what they are actually doing to their own children. They are hurting them more than anyone else can ever hurt them." Azad currently lives with her partner of seven years, Wendy. The couple has been the only parents Wendy's now 15-year-old son has ever known. "He is a wonderful young man, a straight ‘A' student and a gentle soul," she says. After years of trying, Azad was finally able to educate her family regarding her ***uality and they have finally come around. "Now, they cannot get enough of me. Wendy and our son are part of the family. At Christmas and Thanksgiving, the whole family comes to our house. It means a lot to me. And it makes all the difference in the world," she says, smiling.Azad's willingness to speak publicly is rare. Other members of AGLA were less willing. Indeed, one of the organizations even asked not to be identified by name for this story. In true Armenian spirit, this second group split off from AGLA a year and a half ago over some differences in direction. It now has over 100 members and fears risking the safety and security of its members, who come "to find comfort and acceptance in a safe and supportive Armenian environment," says a member."We all have heard horror stories about Armenians abusing gay and lesbian Armenians in the name of God or to protect the community's honor," says Khachig, the organization's former president, and a successful businessman who has been involved with these groups for over three years. Azad had received such calls when she first organized AGLA, "threatening to kill her, even threatening to burn down her businesses. Others informed her that she was going to hell," says Khachig.Khachig, 34, was born in Lebanon and has been living in Los Angeles for 15 years. He has been involved in other community organizations, but this is the first organization where he is open about his ***uality. Born Into the Enemy CampThe newest of the three organizations, Armenian Gay and Lesbian Association, (not related to AGLA in Los Angeles) was founded in New York's East Village in May 1999. One of the founders, Arsen, a 26-year-old art student, was watching the Gay Pride Parade in New York City last year, when he saw two women marching with an Armenian flag. "I thought I had lost my mind," he says. "I ran into the crowd, hugged them and asked who they were. We exchanged numbers and later got in touch with each other. We decided to start a group for people like ourselves, who are completely cut-off from the Armenian community because of our ***uality." The organization has already attracted over 50 members, most of them over the age of 35. "Our members are curious about Armenian culture, something that has been missing from their lives," says Vartan, one of the initial founders of the organization. "They miss that. They want to rekindle their heritage. We provide them with a comfortable environment where their interests in their heritage will not result in ridicule." The irony is inescapable. They voluntarily return to the Armenian community, and there, they face abuse. This is not unusual, explains Jack Drescher, MD, a psychiatrist who is the American Psychiatric Association's (APA) spokesperson on homo***uality issues. "Being born gay or lesbian is like being born into the enemy camp," says Drescher and continues that this is different from what happens to most minorities. "Most members of minorities are born into minority families where they have the support of the parents who will teach them the necessary techniques to survive. But not when it comes to gay and lesbian children. Not only do strangers hate them, but their own family may reject them." he adds. The Community PerspectiveAlthough the APA removed homo***uality from its list of mental disorders in 1973, there are many within and outside the Armenian community who do not accept homo***uality as a legitimate lifestyle and who believe gays and lesbians should be unconditionally condemned. Reverend Father Shnork Demirjian, Pastor of Saint Peter Armenian Church in Van Nuys, California, is not among them. Demirjian has had the opportunity to interact with gay Armenians. "After getting to know me, they reveal themselves, they want to find out how tolerant the church would be regarding their lifestyle," he says. Demirjian is not hesitant in telling them about the church's negative position regarding homo***uality, "But that does not mean they are not welcome in the church. They want an Armenian clergy to greet them, go to their home and bless them. They don't want to be ignored because of who they are. Although I don't agree with their lifestyle, it does not mean that I cannot be their friend," he adds. "If I think that a person has created an obstacle on his or her way to heaven, I cannot create an obstacle on my way to heaven. Lack of compassion towards any person, including a homo***ual person, would be such an obstacle."Demirjian believes that a homo***ual is in transition, although he doesn't rule out exceptions. "My personal belief is that any priest, based on God's unconditional love, should show compassion, love and care towards the homo***ual members of our community. God did not say ‘I love you if.' There are no ifs. But, according to the church's canons, ***ual relations between same *** individuals are not condoned. So, the priest should also pray for that moment of change. I try to help them understand the difficulties and try to show them the love of God," he says.Demirjian is not alone among those who believe that homo***uality is a lifestyle choice that can be undone. Drescher disagrees. "It is not a matter of choosing to be gay, lesbian or straight. Rather, a choice of whether to hide or reveal yourself," he explains. Drescher believes that Armenians, like many communities in diaspora, have a particular need not to enter into the mainstream community when it comes to social change. On the contrary, they demand the retention of the traditional culture, unchanged. Since no gay and lesbian culture is traditional, it is automatically considered a betrayal of the traditional culture. "The community is not deliberately trying to hurt anybody, but it is unintentionally creating an environment where their gay and lesbian children are not accepted by the entire community," he says. Alternative to BetrayalFor those children who do not wish to "betray" the expectations placed on them, the alternative is "constant internal conflict." Or denial. Saro, 31, was married for nearly a decade, divorced, and finished professional school before he accepted his homo***uality. He moved to another state. His mother never suspected. He didn't tell her. "We would only see each other every few months, but I could tell something was wrong. He wasn't happy in his marriage. But I never, ever suspected. I'm still surprised. This was my son, I could read his every thought, every emotion, and I never knew."Finally, I pushed and pushed, and he told me. I was in shock," she says, still looking stunned years later. Quickly, she adds, "Not that it's a bad thing, but you know the way we've been raised," and her voice trails off. Seta was born and raised in Lebanon. She and her husband were active in the community's cultural life. "I blamed myself for not having guessed. My son had obviously suffered so much, trying to do what we expected of him, and later worrying about how to tell his mother, " Seta continues, teary-eyed. "I thought a lot about it. One thing convinced me. Saro loves me so much, he's the last person in the world who would want to see me sad and upset. He wouldn't tell me this and live this way knowing it's something that's going to upset me, if there was anything he could do about it. So, it's not something he can overcome, it's something that's not in his hands to change."Seta acknowledges that she hasn't told most of her friends. Still, she has met her son's friends, has invited them for dinner. "Imagine that someone should suffer so much in society, and then the family should make him or her suffer even more. I won't do that to my son," she says.Those interviewed for this story say more parents react like Azad's than Saro's. "There is this ridiculous belief in many communities, including ours, that if you talk about certain things, kids will do it, or become it," argues Viken Yacoubian, principal of Rose and Alex Pilibos Armenian School in Hollywood, California. Yacoubian, a Ph.D. candidate in psychology, is also an adjunct professor at Woodbury University's Behavioral Science Department. "As illogical as it is, that belief still exists. To say that if we talk about homo***uality, someone will change from being a hetero***ual to a homo***ual is completely ridiculous."Yet, based on that belief, many in leadership positions shun those who are openly gay. It is the same Armenian culture that some gays and lesbians want to make a part of their lives that they say is also pushing them away."What concerns me most about the Armenian community is that in an effort to maintain a strong sense of Armenian culture, the community hangs on to old ways of thinking. That is self-defeating and does not achieve what it intends," says Arlene Avakian, author of Lion Woman's Legacy, an Armenian-American Memoir. Avakian teaches at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst and does not participate much in the Armenian community. "My adult female identity is not reflected in the community," she says. "I can barely bring my feminist self into the community, let alone my lesbian identity."The Armenian community tends to "push many interesting people out. It allows only people who believe in the status quo to become leaders and set values for the community. Many who are interested in looking at new ideas and want to see change, or don't fit into the status quo are labeled as not a hundred per cent Armenian. They are forced away," she says.Arlene, who has been with her partner, Martha, a psychotherapist, for 26 years, receives many messages from Armenian women who are shocked to find that there is another Armenian lesbian. "It's always something like ‘Oh my God, I thought I was the only one. I want to get in touch with other Armenian gays and lesbians,'" she says. "I think it's great that these individuals are organizing and are able to find others they can identify with as both Armenian and gay or lesbian. They don't have to split themselves."The three gay and lesbian organizations explain their raison d'etre in much the same terms as any other Armenian organization: To expose Armenians to the Armenian culture. And they try.Kevork was born in Beirut and has lived in Los Angeles since he was two. "Logically, I knew I would not be accepted in the Armenian community, being gay," he says. As Kevork finally accepted his ***uality during his college days, he felt the need to connect with his Armenian culture as well. But he wasn't sure how he could be more involved with the community as a gay person. "I accidentally found out about the group in Los Angeles and it was exactly what I needed," he says. It's been over a year since that day and Kevork is now the secretary of the organization and has made many friends there. Four months ago, he started to learn Armenian for the first time with the help of some friends from the group. "We get together every week. I have learned most of the alphabet and hope to speak fluently one day," he says.Kevork credits the organization for bringing him back to his Armenian roots. "This has been a great experience," he says. "There is a significant need for such an organization in our homophobic community." Not too long ago, a 16-year-old girl heard Kevork and his friends studying Armenian at a local café and came over to talk to them. "When she found out we were gay, she was incredibly relieved, realizing that she wasn't alone," he says. "She was suicidal because her parents had found out she was a lesbian and told her to either kill herself or they would kill themselves." Kevork realized that this young woman's problems were beyond the reach of their organization, "but we were able to direct her to the right people and offer her an environment where she can be with people who understand her and have been through similar experiences." Choosing an Armenian PartnerThere are some who have come out to their immediate families, only to find that they are expected to stay away from the community. "I came out when I was 20," says Hagop, a 29-year-old attorney, "and am more or less openly gay among non-Armenians. My parents are not particularly accepting of my homo***uality. My father clings to the notion that I will get married someday, and my mother, though understanding, has requested that I not come out in the Armenian community." Hagop thinks that's because she does not want him to be exposed to ridicule. But he can't be completely certain since they haven't discussed his homo***uality since he first told them almost a decade ago."There is no compelling reason for me to come out at this time in the community. One powerful reason would be if I were to find an Armenian partner who would want to be involved in the community. Maybe a nice doctor?" he says, laughing. "When I have someone in my life whom I love, I hope that my parents will eventually see it and accept it. But I can't force them."Someday, I'd like to have kids. A gay couple probably won't be allowed to adopt an orphan from Armenia, but the idea is for the child to be brought up in an Armenian community, go to youth groups, have the same experiences I had growing up," says Hagop. Hagop expresses a sentiment shared by many gays and lesbians, "The only thing bad about being gay is that you have to put up with everyone else's preconceived, and often uninformed, notions about what it means." At age 30, Vahan is the director of operations for a major corporation and a the current president of the Armenian gay and lesbian organization in Los Angeles. He has also been in a relationship with an Armenian guy for the last year. They met through the group. "Having an Armenian partner is an amazing experience," he says. "We understand each other on all levels. Our culture and religion is so unique. It is great to go to the same church together, speak the same language, enjoy the same foods."Although Vahan is not out to his family for fear of disappointing them, as a couple, they are accepted by his partner's parents. "We travel together and she calls me ‘son'. She introduces me to their friends as her son's boyfriend," he says. Vahan enjoys the acceptance from his partner's family but is pained by what has happened to his relationship with his own family. "We used to be so close, but I've become so distant from them," he says. Knowing that they will not accept his homo***uality, "I have created this barrier between us, which is killing me inside." Having to ChooseBut for some, leaving the Armenian community behind was not a choice, rather a necessary act of survival. "Growing up, my first identity was Armenian. The first lens I learned to see the world through," says Haig, 28, a recent Psychology graduate from Columbia University. "When I came to terms with my ***ual identity at age 20, I knew I would not be accepted in the community which had meant so much to me," he says. After attending several Armenian Student Association meetings both at USC, during his undergraduate years and later at Columbia, it was clear to Haig that he was not welcome. "I hated Armenians for a while because I felt that I was being forced to make a choice."Haig recently discovered AGLA in New York. "This is my opportunity to be within the Armenian community and still be myself," he says. But things were much different for Haig when he first came out to his family at the age of 23. He decided to wait until he was no longer dependent on them, fearing that he might be asked to leave the family's home. Although his (divorced) parents did not react rashly , Haig has not been in contact with his father for the last year and a half. "I don't want to talk to him since he has chosen not to respect my relationship with Peter. I translate that to mean that he does not have any respect for me."Peter, 36, and Haig have been living together for over three years. "When things became serious with Peter, the fact that he was not Armenian was in the back of my mind. Then I realized that this is it. He is the one I want to spend my life with," adds Haig. "Peter is great. He is very level headed, generous and has a kind heart. He is also learning about the Armenian culture and just read Passage to Ararat."Haig's mother, who lives in Los Angeles, has been very understanding and supportive. She has a picture of Haig and Peter in her bedroom and has the couple over for holidays. When she calls their home, she leaves messages for both, calling Peter ‘Bedig'. Sevag, a 23-year-old graduate student, lives with his Mom who has known about his ***uality for a long time, "but needed to hear it from me," he says. Things went quite smoothly and she is proud of who he is, even though she has not fully accepted it. "She came to one of the dances of our group to see who my friends were," says Sevag. At the dance, she ran into another parent who was there for the same reason. "They cried together, but she was happy to have found someone who understood her. She was also shocked by the number of gay and lesbian Armenians there." he adds."All my friends are Armenian and it means a lot being with them," he says. Sevag finds this organization to be a great opportunity for Armenian gays and lesbians to find support, make true friendships, have fun and be accepted for who they are. Sevag believes society pushes gay and lesbians away and forces them to lie. "If Armenian society was more open and accepting, gays and lesbians won't be forced to make wrong choices for themselves by getting into straight relationships," he says. "It happens all the time and it destroys lives, families and people. They end up playing roles in society instead of being themselves and being much happier and productive individuals." Throwing the First StoneThe fear of not being accepted by their families and society in general is magnified in teenage boys. "Nobody really forces teenage girls to go out dating. Boys have a lot of pressure to show interest in the opposite *** in their teenage years. That may be why gay adolescents are three times more likely to commit suicide than straight adolescents," says Drescher, author of Psychoanalytic Therapy and the Gay Man. Sevag continues, "Suicide, which is another taboo subject in Armenian society, happens but no one hears about it. We hear that this kid died of heart failure, or in a car accident, or drowned. Some of them commit suicide, but no one knows," he adds."The church should proclaim her teachings about homo***uality," responds Demirjian. "But this does not mean that the tools of punishment of the medieval period should be revived and homo***uals be singled out and made scapegoats of society and thus persecuted," he adds. "When they brought to Jesus the woman who'd had immoral ***ual acts, according to Mosaic Law, she was going to be stoned to death. But Jesus' compassionate response was, ‘Let he among you who has never committed a sin cast the first stone.' Then he looked at the woman and told her to go and sin no more."There are plenty willing to throw the first stone, nevertheless. Melineh, 29, who maintains the website for one of the gay and lesbian organizations, finds the negative messages posted there not just degrading, but also disturbing and horrifying. "There is one guy who visits the site two to three times a week and posts ****ographic images. He says ‘This is normal â€` you are not.' Another guy suggested that all gay and lesbian Armenians should go to Armenia so they can be used as coal, for fire," says Melineh, crying as she repeats the tales. False Sense of Security"A certain percentage of the general population is homo***ual. You can see that they have not been converted to homo***uality. This suggests that it is normal to assume that the Armenian community, being part of society, also has homo***uals," says Yacoubian.Obviously, not everyone shares this logic. "A frequently-repeated comment is that gay and lesbian Armenians bring disgrace to the Armenian community. And of course, ‘There is no such thing as gay Armenians â€` stop this.'"recounts Melineh."When I see these comments, I can't help but think these people might be our neighbors," says Melineh, who, together with her partner of five years, Ani, also 29, lives in one of the most densely-populated Armenian neighborhoods of Los Angeles. "I walk around wondering what would happen if the person behind me knew that I am gay," she says. "I realize that by being around gay and lesbian Armenians, we get this false sense of security, thinking that all Armenians love us." Melineh, who was involved in various Armenian social groups during her teens and early 20s, found herself staying away from the community, knowing she would not be accepted. "I had to get away from the social constraints that are put upon an Armenian daughter. I did not want to be a doctor or a lawyer. I wanted to be an artist and a linguist." But the minute she got away, Melineh realized she was missing something. "I realized that I had to bridge the gap between me and the Armenian community." Being with Ani helps, along with her involvement with the local Armenian gay and lesbian organization. "The people who are just starting to come to our meetings are exhausted and ‘starved' from being away from the Armenian community. They are really enjoying being around Armenians. One person, within two months, came full circle from being suicidal to feeling complete as an Armenian and a lesbian," she says. As a past president of the organization, "It is great to see that something I helped create goes beyond just the group and actually changes people's lives," says Melineh. Parents, First and LastBut her biggest accomplishment, Melineh believes, is her family's acceptance of her and the relationship she has with Ani. "Armenian parents live for their children," she says. "Now, my parents know that I'm in a safe place and my life is falling into a good rhythm."Areg, 22, was born in Yerevan and has lived in Los Angeles since 1991. "I never felt different, and still don't," says Areg about his homo***uality. It wasn't until he saw a program on television about gay kids that Areg realized that he was gay too. "They were describing me, my thoughts, my feelings," he says, at which time he told his parents. They took him to two therapists who "worked more towards my parents' acceptance than anything else," he says. Next, they asked him to date women, which he did but found no physical or personality attractions towards them. "My dad was frustrated because logically it made sense to him but emotionally, he couldn't understand or relate to it. My mom was more angry, more emotional."Areg feels that he has been luckier than most. "I see some of the ways my gay and lesbian friends' families treat them. There is so much hate. Families should be based on love and any problems should be solved with love and understanding," he says. "Families should offer a safe environment where their kids can be open about themselves, whoever they may be. Parents and kids alienate each other for something so insignificant compared to the bonds that make an Armenian family." If Areg's parents went from denial to acceptance, this isn't true of most others. "I really believe that when parents are confronted with their child's homo***uality, a grieving period is created, which leads the parents into acceptance or denial," says Demirjian. "Parents mourn the death of the dreams they have held for that child. Parents should come out of the grieving situation prayerfully, and although they may not be pleased with the child's lifestyle, they should have the courage to embrace them with love and forgiveness."According to Drescher, "Parents continue to believe that they have done something wrong, even though the theory that parents cause homo***uality has never been proven. It is very difficult for parents to accept this." But just as it has taken years for many gays and lesbians to accept themselves, Drescher points out that it will take parents some time also to get used to the idea, unless they choose not to know. "But the future of these gay and lesbian children lies in being accepted by their families," he adds.Yacoubian acknowledges this, and the resulting responsibility. "As an activist, be it a principal, teacher or mentor, if I am trying to encourage these kids to explore their identities, integrate their cultural identity and resolve the inherent conflicts in the most constructive way, it would be hypocritical of me if I don't address the issue of ***ual identity," says Yacoubian. "You cannot struggle against things like racism and ***ism, and not engage in trying to eliminate homophobia. This is part of a systemic approach," he adds. It is within this context that Yacoubian encourages his colleagues and students to explore these issues both in the larger society and the Armenian community.Yacoubian doesn't just talk tolerance. Recently, at a faculty retreat, he invited a speaker to address and educate teachers on issues of homo***uality and homophobia. "I thought it was very relevant," says Yacoubian, regarding the issues discussed. "Regardless of the teachers' own positions on homo***uality, they will encounter homo***uals in our classes. One of the paramount roles of an educator is to break all forces of denial. We have the responsibility of fostering discussion about this."Demirjian, too, acts out of a feeling of responsibility. "I don't want to be framed as the priest who is intolerant. If I do, my ministry will be over." A More Perfect Union?Zabelle and her partner Amy have been together since 1981. They are both professionals in their 40s and came out in the context of the feminist movement. "I've always wanted an equal relationship," says Zabelle. "It could've happened with a man but Amy and I had a spark and knew that it could happen with each other. We fell in love. The fact that she was a woman was great," she adds. Zabelle is referring to the ***ism she finds in straight relationships. "A man, on some deep level, is glad he is not a woman, like his wife. What kind of a relationship is that? He is also trained from early on to be in charge, responsible, the boss. Some women like that," she says. "In the Armenian community, women are expected to be subordinate to men. We have a relationship where we are truly equal partners. A lot more things are understood. We don't have to deal with gender roles," says Zabelle.Being an openly lesbian couple, Zabelle and Amy have come across many who have not been able to see past the stereotype. "When a straight woman talks about her husband, she is not making an announcement about what they do in bed. It frustrates me because when we do the same, all people think about is what we do in bed," she says.In 1989, Zabelle and Amy got married at their local Unitarian Universalist Church, the most progressive of the Christian Churches. Although the marriage is not binding by law, their city does have a domestic partnership registry where they are recognized as a couple and enjoy some of the same rights extended to straight couples. "I married my best friend," says Zabelle. "We share values, politics and our personalities are compatible." Zabelle's sister and Amy's mother were the only family members present at their wedding, but there were many friends. "We played Armenian classical music and read Armenian poetry," she says. After the ceremony, a longtime friend offered the Armenian traditional toast, ‘May you grow old on one pillow.'Zabelle got involved with fundraising within her community after the earthquake in Armenia. She felt lucky to have been in an Armenian community that was isolated and small enough not to have formed any traditional Armenian organizations. "The Armenians here had realized that there were so few of us that if we wanted to have a community, we had to do it with everyone's help," she says. "I made sure that whatever I did brought honor to our community and strengthened it." Eventually, she told them about her partner. Some distanced themselves, for a while. Later, "they realized that I was not bringing shame to the community. I kept doing exactly what I was doing all along. I worked hard, represented the Armenian heritage to anyone who wanted to know. They realized that I was the same person," she says. "They got over their fears because they took the time to see the reality." Acceptance Based on Who They AreFor each of the individuals who did speak to AIM for this article, there are many others who are not "out" and continue to live a traditional lifestyle. They are married, have children, and are invisible. Some made the choice consciously, others thought they had no choice at all. But they, together with those who have ‘come out,' exist, nonetheless."We have gays and lesbians in our communities. But they are closeted because our community is homophobic," explains Yacoubian. "But who do these kids look up to, for questions, comfort, love, and then empowerment as human beings? It is our responsibility to create the milieu for that," he adds. "There has to be room for all Armenians in our community," says Zabelle. "There aren't many of us around the world. We simply cannot afford to waste the talents of any Armenian who is motivated and willing to contribute to our nation. We can't afford to marginalize any of us," she says. "The Armenian nation needs all of us. In my community, we have demonstrated that it can be done," she adds, referring to the community's ability to look past the ***uality issue and to accept her based on who she is, her dedication and her work.Finally, that's what it comes down to. The other folds in the lives of gay and lesbian Armenians â€` bi***uality, AIDS, equal rights, willingness to speak on the record with name and photos â€` all come later. For them, the first issue is acceptance based on who they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 27, 2000 Report Share Posted July 27, 2000 The article above is published in AIM - July 2000. Here is a joke circulating in Armenia at present: Spyurkahay 1: Dghas amusnacadz e (tkhur).Spyurkahay 2: Haba inchu gdkhres?Spyurkahay 1: Dghu m@ hed amusnacadz e!Spyurkahay 2: Gone hay e? Traslation: Diasp. Armenian 1: My son has married (sadly).Diasp. Armenian 2: But, why are you so sad?Diasp. Armenian 1: He has married a man.Diasp. Armenian 2: Is he at least an Armenian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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