History-Mistory

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Schmitstory/shitstory according to mehmet.

As always- The victors write “history” even if it may be “shitstory”.

“ermeni history” at the university of ankakara?

Yes mehmet freudoghlu, the “Diaspora is EGOist”. The reason why the Diasporan Atom’s family name is EGO-yan.

Of all the categories I deemed this piece of garbage belonged here under COMEDISTAN, perhaps under MYTHOLOGY as well. When comedians masquerade as “historians”, when mehmet osmaoghlu (re-)writes “ermeni history” they become the laughing stock of the world. They deserve nothing but ridicule.

Let’s see how many holes we can PUNCH in this punch-uni‘s bag of hot air.

Here are a few;

Tribes? Like the Asian Mongols and Seljuks?

Armenian people is one of the ancient tribes.

Like the Byzantian emperors of Armenian origin?

Most of the time, they could not become

soldiers or governors.

No comment here.

Moreover the Ottoman

Armenian population was not majority in any region. About 1 million

Armenians were scattered around the huge Ottoman territories. In

another word the Ottoman Armenians were not ready for a separatist

nationalist revolt. They were actually happy with the existing

system. The Church in particular had great privileges before the

Ottoman State and a great power over the Armenian citizens.

Hnchakian Party was founded in 1887, and the Dashnak not until 1890. Where is this clown getting his so called “history”? The ottoman bank incident happened in 1896, one year after the “Great (hamidian) Massacre” of 1895.

Which “terrorist attacks” on politicians? Those dogs, the likes of talat enver were gunned down in the 1920’s and the ASALA did not happen until 60 years after the Big G.

 

They organized many terrorist attacks against

the politicians and institutions. In 1876 the Armenian militants

attacked the Ottoman Bank and exploded bombs before the bank. They

further organized an assassination against the Sultan (Head of State)

II. Abdulhamid.

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I can go on, but I will leave our intrepid historians with sharp “chisel-zumba” to punch more holes in the head, or rather the “änti-head” of this comedian.

Oh! Btw, before I forget. Thank you “lacliner” efendi, read “lats-liner/լաց լիներ” … Here is his portrait - http://www.flickr.com/photos/your_teacher/133262843/

They created a great

Civilization and contributed to the humanity and other civilizations

a lot. They established kingdoms and states as well.

ARMENIAN DIASPORA IS EGOIST

Sedat LACINER

Journal of Turkish Weekly

Sept 16 2009

Armenian people is one of the ancient tribes. They created a great

civilization and contributed to the humanity and other civilizations

a lot. They established kingdoms and states as well. However as they

settled mainly on the crossroads of the civilizations, religions,

sects, races and great kingdoms, they could not maintain their

independence. As a result they have generally lived under the other

nations' sovereignty. Iranian Empire, Byzantium Empire, Russian Empire,

Arab Kingdoms, Seljuk and Ottoman Empires and Soviet 'Empire'. They

enjoyed great freedom under Seljuk and Ottoman Empires however many

Armenians were tortured and deported by the Byzantium Emperors due

to the religious disputes. Most of the time, they could not become

soldiers or governors. In short the main problem for the Armenian

peoples was lack of a state. When the French Revolution triggered the

nationalist movements in the world, the Armenians were not ready for

such a radical change:

 

The Ottoman Armenians were enjoying a great religious freedom and

they were among the most wealthiest class in the empire. Many Armenian

bankers, businessmen, doctors and intellectuals were very close to the

Palace. The Ottoman Armenians in the towns and rural areas were mostly

bankers, businessman or craftsmen. The Armenians with the Ottoman

Greeks dominated the Ottoman export and import. Moreover the Ottoman

Armenian population was not majority in any region. About 1 million

Armenians were scattered around the huge Ottoman territories. In

another word the Ottoman Armenians were not ready for a separatist

nationalist revolt. They were actually happy with the existing

system. The Church in particular had great privileges before the

Ottoman State and a great power over the Armenian citizens.

 

Under these circumstances, the Armenian nationalism was developed in

diaspora: In Switzerland and Georgia. Tashnak and Hnchak 'parties'

were established in Tbilisi and Geneva. The leading Armenians were

very young and inexperienced in politics. They had no enough power and

financial support to struggle against the Empires. Apart from these,

the young Armenian idealists set a formidable task for the Armenian

nationalism: To unite all Armenians in the Ottoman, Russian, Iranian

Empires and other Armenians in the region under a separate Armenian

State. So, they needed foreign assistance, and the great imperial

powers were very eager to 'undermine' the Ottoman Empire. The British,

French and Russian Empires gave a great encouragement to the Tashnaks

and other Armenian groups. However they did not fully keep their

promises and when they reached agreements with the Istanbul Government

the Armenian nationalists failed. Furthermore the Armenian nationalists

were encouraged but not fully supported when needed. Another problem

was that the Ottoman Armenians did not strongly join the Armenian

nationalists. Many Armenians in the Ottoman towns were against the

Armenian militants. Therefore the first target to be destroyed was

seen as the Ottoman Armenian leaders. Many Armenian leaders were

murdered by the Tashnak and other Armenian militants. They accused

all Armenian opposition of being traitor. The Armenian terrorism

killed more Armenians than the Muslims in the beginning of the

20th Century. The Armenian businessmen were threatened and forced

to give 'tax' to the illegal Armenian groups. The Tashnak militants

transferred a huge amount of weapons, provided by Russia and Britain,

to the Ottoman towns. They were preparing a war and revolt against the

Istanbul Government. They organized many terrorist attacks against

the politicians and institutions. In 1876 the Armenian militants

attacked the Ottoman Bank and exploded bombs before the bank. They

further organized an assassination against the Sultan (Head of State)

II. Abdulhamid.

 

When the First World War erupted, the Armenian extremists saw the war

as an opportunity and the co-operation between the Armenians and Allied

States increased. The Russian, British and French Empires who were in

war against the Ottoman Empire, Germany and Austrian Empire, considered

the Christian minorities as a tool against the Ottomans. Thus the

Armenian nationalists were encouraged for more terrorist attacks,

revolts and weapon transfers to Anatolia. The Van Revolt was one of

the most vivid examples for the Armenian Revolts. The Tashnaks in the

Van Revolt aimed to 'clean the region from the Muslims'. Thousands

of Muslims were killed or forced to leave the region. At the end

the Armenians declared their independence in Van province and then

handled the city to the Russian occupying forces.

 

The Armenian nationalist 'adventure' ended with a tragedy which

cost 500.000 Muslim and more than 110.000 Armenian lives. About

Thousands of Armenians were relocated, and many died due to the

war circumstances. The Armenians rioted against the Government in

many towns and attacked their Muslim neighbors with the French,

Russian and British encouragement. However the occupiers did not

keep their promises and with the end of the war the Armenians could

not return their homes. Many immigrated to the European and North

American states. The cost of the revolt was very high for the Armenian

nationalism. Nevertheless they could establish a tiny state in Caucasus

under the Tashnak rule. It is unfortunate that the Tashnaks could not

learn anything from the Ottoman Armenian experience and they started a

'revenge campaign' (NEMESIS) against the newly-established Turkish

State. As a matter of fact that the last thing Independent Armenia

needed was a 'revenge conflict' with the Turks. Armenia was a 'country

of dead' at that time. Armenian population was suffering from famine

and epidemic diseases, and more than 200.000 Armenians died under

these circumstances in the Tashnaks' Independent Armenia. However the

Armenian 'leaders' did not focus on the economic development, social

and cultural problems and political relations with the neighboring

countries while the newly Turkey's Government sole dealt with the

political and economic problems. The Armenian terrorists killed many

former Ottoman ministers. But the Tashnak attacks not only killed the

Turkish targets but also ended the independence of Armenia. Armenia

lost its independence and became a Soviet Republic under Moscow rule.

 

Armenians once more had to immigrate to the West. They suffered a lot

from lack of an independent state. They had no reasonable leader who

could lead them under the realistic and pragmatic principles instead

of purely naïve emotional motivations.

 

Under the lack of leadership, Armenians were exposed the great powers

national interests. Moscow, Washington, Paris and London abused the

Armenian issue.

 

Armenia gained its independence in 1991 after the decades when

the Soviet Empire collapsed. It is unfortunate that the Diaspora

Armenians and Tashnaks just focused on their own interests instead of

saving the newly-established Armenia. Tashnaks played a crucial role

in declaring war against the Azerbaijanis. The Diaspora encouraged

more wars to capture the 'lost territories' in Turkey, Georgia and

Azerbaijan. While the other former republics tried to decrease their

dependency on Russia, Armenia more and more became a 'Russian orbit'

in the region. When Russia lost its military bases in Azerbaijan and

Georgia, Armenians invited the Russians to their country.

 

The new Armenian nationalists and Diaspora saw Turkey the most deadly

enemy, though Turkey was one of the first states who recognized

Armenian independence. Actually Turkey considered Armenian State as

an opportunity to normalize the Turkish-Armenian relations. However

Armenian Diaspora seriously reluctant in normalizing the relations

because it established the Armenian identity on anti-Turkishness. The

1915 Legacy and anti-Turkish accusations have been the only uniting

factor in the diaspora. They feared that if Turkey and Armenia

normalized the relations, the assimilation of the Armenians in the

West could be accelerated. The Church and the political parties used

the Turkish-Armenian problems in cementing the non-homogenous Armenian

society. Moreover anti-Turkish Armenian Case was financial and prestige

source for many Armenians and Diaspora institutions. In another word

the Diaspora Armenian abused the problem with Turks for their personal

and institutional interest at the cost of Armenia. Their priority was

not State of Armenia but the Diaspora. They knew that the land-locked

and relatively poor Armenia had to solve its disputes with Turkey in

order to survive. However they sacrificed Armenian state once again

as they did in 1918.

 

To conclude, the foremost priority for the whole Armenians must to

protect and survive the young Armenia, instead of strengthening the

Armenian diaspora. Armenia should not be part of the adventurous

games of its Diaspora and Russia.

 

Wednesday, 16 September 2009

 

Assoc. Prof. Dr. Sedat LACINER: Director, International Strategic

Research Organization (ISRO)

Edited September 17, 2009 by Arpa