khachcar Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I am interested in finding out the origins of the term Amerian -may also be spelled Amirian or Amiriantz? I have been given the impression that it may be a title or honorific of sorts. Any information on this topic would be appreciated. Thank you, Khachkar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) Before I forget , welcome Khachcar. You lucky ducky, there is a very prominent avenue right smack center of Yerevan branching out from the City Square, between the Hotel (Armenian) Marriott and the foreign ministry building. It is names Amirian Ave. for Arsen Amirian (1881-1918)**, a professional revolutionary a contemporary and comrade in arms of Shahumian. I am interested in finding out the origins of the term Amerian -may also be spelled Amirian or Amiriantz? I have been given the impression that it may be a title or honorific of sorts. Any information on this topic would be appreciated. Thank you, Khachkar. Yes it is Amirian, Emirian etc. One of my friends as the surname AmirAian (note the second A, there is a reason for that), just as a khnami of mine born in Sebastian , via Bolis has his personal name as Amira. It is an honorific and at times professional title. It is an Arabic word, although at the present “ämir/emir’” usually means “prince”, in te origin it means commander, it is crious to know that Latin word “admiral” http://img2.allposters.com/images/ROS/GM129.jpg I.e. commander at sea is from the Arabic “amir-al (Bihar)”. The professional title is from the days of the Arab conquests , including Armenia when the governors were titled as “ämir/emir” because in the beginning they would be Arab military commanders and their guvernia would be called “amira”I.e. admiralty. In times many such governors were assigned from the local people including Armenia princely houses, and the “amir” title stuck. The honorific is mainly from ottoman days, where many dynasties were given the title for their services to the sultan, many Armenian dynasties were also named so, among many builders and financiers like the Balians, the Bezjians etc. were daubed with the title. Shall we assume that families with surnames like Amrian, Amiraian, Emirian etc. are of princely ancestry, be it from Arab days or ottoman. **At one time the “Amrian” street marker plaque was replaced with a plaque “Vramshapuh Arqa”, the again the Original was reinstalled. Whether both plaques are side by side??? http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=am...ge&resnum=1 http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=am...ge&resnum=1 http://www.sanierungsexpertin.de/Bilder/Sc...-Dubai-Munk.jpg Admiral= http://www.thefreedictionary.com/admiral [Middle English amiral, admiral, from Old French and from Medieval Latin amrlis, admrlis, both from Arabic 'amr al- ..., commander of the ... : 'amr, commander; see mr in Semitic roots + al-, the.] Edited August 17, 2009 by ArpA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khachcar Posted August 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: Amerians. Thank you ArpA. That was helpful.Hadjoghutiun! Khachcar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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