Guest Posted December 5, 2000 Report Share Posted December 5, 2000 I know we are a nation of heroes, but anyway, what do you think. Is heroism necessarily related to sacrifice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 "Had our heroes survived, they would have discovered that dying for one’s countrymen is easier than living with them" - RANDOM THOUGHTS by Ara Baliozian. P.S. After reading this I burst out with a nervous laughter I coudln't explain to myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 quote:Originally posted by gamavor:I know we are a nation of heroes, but anyway, what do you think. Is heroism necessarily related to sacrifice?I think the heroism is in the eyes of the others. The actual act may have nothing to do with heroism. I am aware of totally absurd situations, when some people have been killed in a very stupid and ridiculous ways, almost accidentally, but the nation, and especially those who had personal stake in it, had portrayed the event in such heroic colors, that the history books may use them for case studies for generations to come. Additionally, a Professor of mine from YSU once told us during his lecture that one of the Armenian Heroes of USSR of the WWII - Hunan Avetisyan did not really mean to cover the German large-caliber machine gun with his chest, to save his brothers-in-arms. He had been rather pushed on the gun by the guy next to him. And he has gone saying ".... your mother" to the guy who had pushed him.[This message has been edited by MJ (edited January 04, 2001).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 quote:Originally posted by MJ: Armenian Heroes of USSR of the WWII - Hunan Avetisyan did not really mean to cover the German large-caliber machine gun with his chest, to save his brothers-in-arms. MJ, sorry, this one is truth One of my grandma's brothers who took part in the WWII served in a unit which was deployed near Hunan Avetisyan's regiment on that day. He didn't see it with his eyes, but he told me there was no doubt that nobody pushed him. However, there is some part in this which is not true. He also told me, that Hunan was not the first to do it. There were 7-8 more before and after him, but he entered the history book because he was a politruk (ideology propagandist in the Soviet Army). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 MJ, what about Shavarsh Karapetyan, who saved 18 sinking people from the Yerevan lake in 70-s (not sure) damaging his lungs for the rest of his life. Now he lives making two ends meet, due to the society's ignorance, but there are 18 people around with his name in their minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Berj:MJ, what about Shavarsh Karapetyan, who saved 18 sinking people from the Yerevan lake in 70-s (not sure) damaging his lungs for the rest of his life. Now he lives making two ends meet, due to the society's ignorance, but there are 18 people around with his name in their minds. Berj,As far as H. Avetisyan is concerned, obviously I am not a witness. I told you what one of my professors had communicated us during his lecture. As far as Shavarsh Karapetyan was concerned, I remember reading this story in newspaper many years ago. In fact the newspaper had published the story many years after the occurrence of the event. The story was telling us that of 18 saved people, only 2-3 had inquired to find out who was the person who had saved them.Don't misunderstand me. I am not saying there are no heroes. I myself know some people who I consider heroes. I just have said that sometimes the actual act has nothing to do with heroism. Whether it is in a positive or a negative way, the heroism is in the eyes of others. Someone may indeed be a hero, but not perceived as so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 I'm 100% sure that you will not be a hero if you scarifies a Lamb Yes Gamavor jan we are nation of Heroes, Heroes who have gave their life for us , and for the future of Armenian nation , I think the best we can do at this time is honor their memory , and pass their stores to the others . A good friend of mind told me once , " Sacrificing your life for your Nation should be the ultimate Honor for an Armenian " , will that was him , and his name was Karo . will I sure wish that he was next to me now , instead of Yerablur, god bless his soul .yev hishum em mek urish xosk " Hersoner chen darnum iyl tsnvum en "Amen mardu chi trvats heros darnal@. saayn mi varkyan yekek nayenk mer herosneri @entaniknerin, yerexanerin , tsnornerin , knoj@, inchov enk menk poxhatutsum n@rants, ?chem asum petutyun@ asum em menk HAyers, hern el anitsats petutyan, yes asum em menk ? inch enk anum ? gone hishenk n@rants , gone var pahenq n@rants hishatak@ yev gorts@ hayrenanver. tsavali e tesnel te Shavarshi n@man mek@ iysor iys baxtin e arjanatsel , yev kam Hye Herosi zavak@ hats chuni utelu .yerevi jamanaki harts e , asum en jamanakn e balasan@ hazaravor tsaveli . [This message has been edited by MosJan (edited January 09, 2001).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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