Aratta-Kingdom Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 LET'S START FROM 1918 Hayots Ashkhar Daily Published on April 11, 2008 Yesterday the Parliament was discussing the daft statement on "Artsax Conflict", circulated by Tigran Torosyan. Vahan Hovhannisyan appeared with a rather interesting proposal: "Let's remember how Azerbaijan emerged. It emerged as a multi-national state, where Armenians shared equal rights with everyone, and if Armenians have been deprived from these rights it is clear that Armenian inhabitants in Azerbaijan have the right for territorial compensation. It is not difficult to confirm it legally, because the political substantiation exists: before 1928 there has been no corridor, no separation between Nagorno Artsax Autonomous Region and Armenia. So if Mr. Aliev wants to start the negotiations from the beginning then we must start from 1918." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 How about 1915??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted April 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 i know what you are trying to say Ash jan, -but there was no azerbaijan in 1915. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 It's ok let them start by saying what made Azerbadrjan... how they formed... as usually when they see a crisis going on in a country they start attacking taking over lands, the kitty cats that they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted April 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 kitty cats who look to their own shadow and think of themselves as tigers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 no no, the mirrors break!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z'areh Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Finally someone addresses the right issue, and hopefully with Vahan Hovanissian's remarks a new, more aggressive policies and responses will be issued soon. I think all of us are patiently waiting for that moment. ARMENIANS SHOULD REACT ADEQUATELY TO AZERBAIJAN'S TOUGH MOVES PanARMENIAN.Net 11.04.2008 16:56 GMT+04:00 /PanARMENIAN.Net/ "I don't think the NKR government should coordinate with Armenia every move it makes for recognition of Nagorno Artsax. Independence is the expression of will of Artsaxi people through the referendum and passage of the Constitution on December 10, 2006. And we must fulfill the will of our people. Since it is compatible with the stance of Armenia, other countries and international organizations, it is already the job of the diplomats and negotiators. As to the National Assembly, it must observe the provisions of the Constitution," said Vahram Atanesyan, chairman of the NKR National Assembly Committee on Foreign Relations. "The Artsax side never stated to endorse the principles proposed in Madrid. We rejected those principles from the beginning," he said. The NKR minister of foreign affairs Georgy Petrosyan thinks Azerbaijan is aspired to derive maximum benefit from the talks. "Azerbaijan has made its stance tougher. It means that the Armenian sides should draw conclusions and take adequate moves," the minister said. "The independence and freedom of NKR cannot be an issue of discussion," he added, Artsax-Open.com reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVO Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Artsakh's governments #1 task is their recognition. And the #1 country that they should press to do so, should be Armenia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 We should give Lachin to the Kurds to win their supports. The Azeri deported the Kurds from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted April 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 just like that huh:) you'll give lachin to the kurds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KabirBoy Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 I agree with Domino, that's another thing that can be considered in our support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVO Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 who's support? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KabirBoy Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 I mean Kurds supporting us and more people supporting us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-47 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 We should give Lachin to the Kurds to win their supports. The Azeri deported the Kurds from there. Not give but encourage some Kurdish settlement (who would be granted citizenship) due to their high birth rate. Of course, Armenian settlement should continue as well. The region of Lachin/Berdzor of the province of Kashatagh is the single most important part of the liberated territories, one that is vital for the survival of Artsakh and Armenia. We need a growth of population there and in Nor Shahumyan (previously known as Kelbajar) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 just like that huh:) you'll give lachin to the kurds Nope, it is strategic, the international community will take Lachin as bargin and have it within Azerbaijan. Wait the moment when Artsakh government announce that Red Kurdistan on Lachin should have remained and that there will be resettlement of Kurds there and see the Kurds entering in the game against Azerbaijan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Not give but encourage some Kurdish settlement (who would be granted citizenship) due to their high birth rate. Of course, Armenian settlement should continue as well. The region of Lachin/Berdzor of the province of Kashatagh is the single most important part of the liberated territories, one that is vital for the survival of Artsakh and Armenia. We need a growth of population there and in Nor Shahumyan (previously known as Kelbajar) The problem is that we can not maintain that, even if we have Lachin, the return of Azerbaijani refugees will complicate things there. The Kurds were a plurality there before they were pushed from there and replaced, they are the only solution, if Azerbaijani refugees return, why should the Kurds not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted April 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Nope, it is strategic, the international community will take Lachin as bargin and have it within Azerbaijan. Wait the moment when Artsakh government announce that Red Kurdistan on Lachin should have remained and that there will be resettlement of Kurds there and see the Kurds entering in the game against Azerbaijan not so fast. we have our say in this too. in fact, nothing will ever happen without us agreeing to it. let's not forget the international community already had a plan for us before the Artask war. i'm sure you don't need to hear from me what happened next. what happened 100 years ago is not gonna happen again. just take my word for it. we are ready for everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted April 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 The problem is that we can not maintain that, even if we have Lachin, the return of Azerbaijani refugees will complicate things there. The Kurds were a plurality there before they were pushed from there and replaced, they are the only solution, if Azerbaijani refugees return, why should the Kurds not? how about the Armenian refugees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-47 Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 The problem is that we can not maintain that, even if we have Lachin, the return of Azerbaijani refugees will complicate things there. The Kurds were a plurality there before they were pushed from there and replaced, they are the only solution, if Azerbaijani refugees return, why should the Kurds not? Even more reason to never allow those "Azeris" into Artsakh again. Agdam should be as far west as any of them should be able to settle. If they return, they will eventually outnumber us and will cause us trouble. Their loyalty would be in doubt as well. Artsakh should not become the next Nakhichevan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted April 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Artsak will never become Naxijevan...There are people among us will never let that happen. But Naxijevan, will become Artsak. That's a promise-AND A WARNING TO THE AZERIS ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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