AK-47 Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 For all you people who know Russian, check this clip out. It's about Armenia producing its own weapons. A brief translation by someone would be helpful http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z6xRQ7EMPi4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karothegreat Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Those weapons looke simpel but deadly, and it would be great if someone could translate it but there is one part I nderstod hat these weapons were used in the tzettzen war by or against the russian didn't understand it 100% Karo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Bulpap is at least 17 years old. It was rumored that some special police forces in Europe ordered it but has never been marketed. There is new much more attractive stuff, but you won't find it in youtube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Those weapons looke simpel but deadly, and it would be great if someone could translate it but there is one part I nderstod hat these weapons were used in the tzettzen war by or against the russian didn't understand it 100% Karo Karo jan during Artsax Liberation - against Armenians azerbujanis had some contract killers form chechnya, afghanistan .... - some of them got hold of the weapons used by Armenian Fighters in battlefields and took them to Chechnya - made a copy of them and used them against Russians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karothegreat Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Karo jan during Artsax Liberation - against Armenians azerbujanis had some contract killers form chechnya, afghanistan .... - some of them got hold of the weapons used by Armenian Fighters in battlefields and took them to Chechnya - made a copy of them and used them against Russians thank you mosjan didn't know what they were actually saying about the subject don't speak russian Gamavor could you tell me a little more about the wweapons that armenian produses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 I have no idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Error 404 Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 I will translate it a little later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVO Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 (edited) I beat you to it Error. Its a secret factory. Armenia was the first country after the collapse of USSR to produce its own weapons, mainly because of Artsakh war. There is still a chance that the war would restart. Q: Why does Armenia produces its own weapons when it can easily buy it from a 3rd country. A: Because of geographic location of Armenia, it can easily be blockaded, and by producing our own weapons we'll have a better chance of defending ourselves. The arsenal of weapons produced in Armenia is not big, but by its technical quality it can be compared to internationally well known brands. Sniper rifles with 3 different modifications, Avtomat is comparable to Kalashnikov. Handgun with 14 bullets and Automatic handgun designed specially for special forces. It all started in 1992 with handmade automatic handguns, which were used by Armenian defense forces in Artsakh. Because of faulty assembly they were not reliable and often misfired. The production was stopped. With the start of the First Chechen war, the same kinds of weapons appeared in Chechnya Anonymous speaker: The weapons used in Chechnya were not made in Armenia. The chechens are making the exact replica of our weapons. Before the start of the war, a factory in Grozny started producing exact replicas of automatic handguns which they called it Volk(wolf). The chechens received the Armenian handguns as trophies during their participation in the Artsakh war when they were helping the azeris. Thats how the rumor about the chechen origin of the handgun spread. Since then the production of arms hasn't stoped and soon Armenia announced that it was producing weapons. But its completely handmade. The skill of Armenians in weapon making is very respectful. Pay attention to this weapon at this automatic handgun, the cartridge is located at the rear handle, in the world its known as "bulpap" Anonymous speaker: We're expecting that the handgun will be sold for special customers(?) the weapon was designed for mountain terrain. A good balanced weapon is showing good results. The automatic handguns which looks like Uzi takes 9mm bullets. Some skeptics point out that Armenian weapons look like well known Russian weapons and the fact that its fairly cheap to produce weapons. The only thing that stands between Armenian weapons and the world market is that potential buyers dont trust the quality. No all the specialist agree that in order to check the quality of these weapons they need time. Edited June 29, 2007 by Avo47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Thanks Avo jan. I would like to add my opinion about the issue. The weaon production started in Armenia before even the Kharabakh war. It was intended against the russian occupation when the Russian tanks were marching through the streets of yerevan at the end of Soviet times (starting 1989). All those weapons look good to me but they need some perfection and better quality, they are intented for partizan warfare, they won't last in the real combat or battlefield. I would say professional production with better machines will make them more reliable. For instance if they are making the barrels themselves then those weapons won't last long since the real barrel making process is completly different than by making them on a lathe machine (especially manual lathe). The Sinper rifle looked very similar to romanian SVD (Snaiperskaya Vintovka Dragunova) but the bolt was different and I am sure the inside parts are of different design too. It is not an automatic riffle and the barrel may last longer but I am wondering how the rest of the parts will handle the pressure that 7,62x54 ammo applies to it. Bullpop was the same as AK. 9mm uzi like weapons looked cheesy to me. But the hand gun was nice. Armenia deffinitely needs it's own arms (made in Armenia) as the person in the video said our geographical location(surrounded with muslim non-friendly neighbours) sometimes will work against us. Currently there is a factory in Armenia(recently built) that manufactures ammo for our Army. We may not need factories for military aircraft or battle tanks but basic staff should be made locally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karothegreat Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Avo & Error jan both of you thanks it's a little better if you know what they are saying in the video and I think within a few years we'l have our own weapon industry with weapons of very good quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-47 Posted June 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Thanks for the translation guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Armenian DG Arms Corporation plant to enter international market 02.10.2007 18:20 GMT+04:00 Print version Send to mail In Russian In Armenian /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Armenian DG Arms Corporation plant will enter the international market after satisfying the internal needs, Director General Partev Musheghyan said. “The output is first of all meant for the internal market,” he noted. Potential customer states will be chosen due to market demand for the plant’s output, according to him. “The armament will be delivered with permission of the Armenian authorities to the states not falling under UN and EU sanctions and not opposing the interests of the CSTO member states. “To secure a high quality of the output a special commission will be formed. The plant will be constantly modernized and equipped. The initial investment amounts to $22 mln. Further donations will be immediately depend on assortment increase,” he said, IA Regnum reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-47 Posted November 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Armenia's producing its own bullets, one step closer to a self-sufficient army. --------- Armenia Keeps its Powder Dry New munitions plant is seen as a step towards a more self-sufficient defence industry. By Gegham Vardanian in Yerevan (CRS No. 418 07-Nov-07) Armenia has started making ammunition for its armed forces, in an attempt to keep pace with other defence industries in the South Caucasus. A munitions factory re-opened in September after a refit costing 4.7 million US dollars. The plant is owned by the Armenian firm DG Arms Cooperation, the country’s only defence manufacturer. Almost all of the country’s weaponry comes from Russia. The plant’s current capacity is 100 million bullets a year, most of which is intended for the Armenian armed forces. Partev Mushegian, director general of DG Arms, said the company intended to invest an additional 22 million dollars and increase annual output by 70 million bullets. Next year, it plans to produce flak jackets as well. “The factory plans to move onto the international market after it has started meeting the country’s needs,” Mushegian told IWPR. He said the factory aimed to make bullets that complied with NATO standards, so that they could be sold abroad. “Our products will be exported - with the permission of the Armenian authorities - to countries that are not subject to United Nations or European Union sanctions, and that are not counter to the interests of Collective Security Treaty Organisation members,” said Mushegian, referring to the CSTO, a defence grouping of former Soviet states. The factory was reopened following the privatisation of two companies, Neutron and Bagavan. Neutron’s factory first started making bullets in 1986 and carried on through the Nagorny Karabakh conflict. But it was unable to keep up with demand, and Armenia had to start importing ammunition. Over the past decade, production all but stopped. The re-modelled Yerevan-based plant employs 120 workers, and there are plans to open a smaller branch factory in the town of Abovian. The government has not subsidised the new plant, but says it is keen to foster a defence industry. “We need to upgrade our factories,” Prime Minister Serzh Sarkisian said at a ceremony to mark the opening of the munitions plant. “This is directly linked to our country’s defence capability. I think that if the factory works at full capacity, our needs for a number of types of ammunition will be completely covered.” Artur Agabekian, a former deputy defence minister who now heads the Armenian parliament’s defence, national security and interior affairs committee, told IWPR, “It is satisfying to know that a factory run on private capital is producing ammunition. If the state handles its orders properly, then I am certain that investors will emerge who will be ready to put their money into munitions manufacturing and repairs. We should be able to assist this process.” Experts say the launch of the factory is a small step towards making Armenia’s military more self-sufficient. The government’s defence budget is set to grow by 20 per cent in 2008 to reach 380 million US dollars - around ten per cent of total planned expenditure. As a CSTO member, Armenia benefits from a 30 per cent discount on arms purchases from Russia, its main supplier. Prime minister Sarkisian said the launch of the factory had nothing to do with the unresolved conflict with Azerbaijan over Karabakh. Most analysts do not concur with this. Azerbaijan, which recently created a government ministry in charge of the defence industry, has one of the fastest-growing defence budgets in the world. Military spending in 2007 is put at more than one billion dollars, and President Ilham Aliev has said he wants defence expenditure to be greater than the Armenia’s entire government budget. (See Azerbaijan Flexes Military Muscles, CRS No. 402 19-Jul-07.) “To me, the plant is important in terms of demonstrating to Azerbaijan that we have been able to preserve the balance [with Azerbaijan] and are taking action in response,” said Washington-based security expert Richard Giragosian. “In future, Armenia should set up a state structure like Azerbaijan’s and invest in development of its military industry. This will put us in a position to show Azerbaijan that we are not lagging behind. “The creation of a bullet-producing factory is definitely a positive first step, but it’s not enough. It’s more important to develop production of airplanes, tanks and artillery.” David Petrosian, a security expert and commentator with the Noyan Tapan news agency, said Armenia had been trying to diversify the sources of its weapons purchases, albeit with limited success. “There have been cases when Armenia bought weapons from Serbia,” he said. “SU-25 planes were bought, as far as I know, from Slovakia. There were also arms purchases from China and Belarus. But the main arms supplier to Armenia is, of course, Russia.” “Armenia is now making only bullets,” said Petrosian. “This should not be seen as a first step, as it is too early to be talking about [Armenia] having a serious military industry. Making bullets does not mean Armenia is actively arming itself.” He added that it was important for Armenia to be able to repair weapons, even if it could not manufacture them. Giragosian said Armenia was achieving success with military reforms and cooperation with NATO, which he would like to see expand. “To my mind, Armenia is too heavily dependent on Russia,” he said. “For example, Armenia’s military aviation is somewhat weak. Armenia’s air force is under Russian influence within the Collective Security Pact. I’d like to see our military potential more independent.” Gegham Vardanian is a correspondent for Internews in Yerevan. Source: http://www.iwpr.net/?p=crs&s=f&o=3...;apc_state=henh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AK-47 Posted April 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Here are some cool pics on Armenian-made weapons -------------------------------------- The K-3 bullpup http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1342/605432ro1.jpg The K-11 sniper rifle http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4328/k11riflets7.jpg Various pics of the K-2, K-11 and various versions of the K-3 http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5608/604674en2.jpg K-3 bullpup on the jeep of Armenian special forces http://photos-h.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v168/130/75/598370340/n598370340_2158535_8147.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 (edited) Here are some cool pics on Armenian-made weapons -------------------------------------- The K-11 sniper rifle http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4328/k11riflets7.jpg The last time I was at Kho Virap surveying Masis Sar and the border, there were a few local 10-12 year od boys there. I let them use my binoculars and we struck a conversation. One said he wanted to be a doctor, another said he wanted to be president and one boy said he wanted to be a "@SNAYPER/ԸՍՆԱՅՊԸՐ"! Edited April 15, 2008 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVO Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Arpa jan we need them all, doctors, presidents and snipers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 All but one Avo... esi lsel es yerb abarancu erexun asum en metsanas inch es darnalu, ...esi asum a "zohvats azatamartik"... inch uzum en togh darnan menak et vijakin togh chdzkten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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