SAS Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Arpa:Correct!As a rule what is common to Armenian and Turkish is always Armenian. At the present satak/sadag is commonly used to describe a dead animal, i.e. carcass. The Turkish equivalent is "lesh". It is an undignified way of death as in "shan satak"(a dog's death). Verbs like "satkil/satketsnel" follow. Originally it was used in a much more noble context. In PC (pre-Christian) times a "satak" was the animal offering at the altar, the remains of which was offered to to the faithful to partake. Hence "zadak/zatik/Zadig".Does the Arabic/Turkish "sadaqa" (alms/handout/faithful) have any connection?_______________________________________Arpa,zatel = ktrel,anjatel, bazhanel = grabaryan "z" + "Hatel":Hetagayum "H"-n sghvel: "Hatel" bayic kazmvum e "hatik" goyakan@ inchpes nayev ... atel bay@:Orinak` na indz atum e = na indz hatum e Nuyn dzevov "zatel" bayic arajacel e "zatik"-@:Zatiki tonin Qristos@ meznic bazhanvec(anjatvec, hatvec)...Hayerenum "zatik" bar@ goyutyun uner qristoneutyunic araj, vorovhetev ayn nayev mijati anun e ( karmir` teverin sev xaler) _________________________SAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 sireli SAS, vaghuts e ayspisi makur hayeren chi lsel: shat huzvetsi:yes misht koghm em yeghel grakan hayerenin, bayts yerbek gitakits mard chen jarel vorpeszi im pahanjner@ bavararem` khosel grakan hayerenov:--- mots grakan hayeren@ inchpes statsvets? SAS jan, karogh es urish ayspisi hetakrkir batsatrutyunner tal?shat em khndrum. [ October 30, 2001: Message edited by: Harut ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAS Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Harut:sireli SAS,vaghuts e ayspisi makur hayeren chi lsel: shat huzvetsi:yes misht koghm em yeghel grakan hayerenin, bayts yerbek gitakits mard chen jarel vorpeszi im pahanjner@ bavararem` khosel grakan hayerenov:---mots grakan hayeren@ inchpes statsvets? SAS jan, karogh es urish ayspisi hetakrkir batsatrutyunner tal?shat em khndrum. [ October 30, 2001: Message edited by: Harut ]_______________________________________Harut Mite? aydpes huzvel es: Imijayaloc, "mite"-n shat hetaqrqir bar e` harcakan nshann @nknum e... arajin vankin: Du urish aydpisi barer gites? Myus koghmic tiflisi barbarn amboghjovin arajnasheshtayin e(vracereni azdecutyun), usti,Sayat-Nova kam Sundukyan &isht kardalu hamar, shesht@ kam hartsakan nshan@ petq e dnel arajin vanki vra:Orinak-Gna Pepo, getin@ lze, xalxi vuternun pach ara, nranc vuti cix@ lze...Pordzir bardzradzayn kardal ays naxadasutyun@tarber sheshtavorumnerov yev kzgas tarberutyun@ _____________________________________________SASH.G.Hamenayn deps shnorhakalutyun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted November 2, 2001 Report Share Posted November 2, 2001 hetakrkir er. isk hin hayerenum el ein barer@ sheshtavorvum verchin vanki vra??? shat hetakrkir e nayev hamshenahayeri barbar@. jishtn asats, vochinch chem haskanum irents khosaluts. (kovkasian lezuneri mets azdetsutyun) america teghapokhveluts heto im mot el em nkatum sheshtavorman popokhutyun.(anglereni azdetsutyunn e havanabar) aveli shut, voch te sheshtavorman, ayl hangavorman aghavaghum. petk e ashkhatem indz vra. shnorhakal em. isk urish inch kaseir? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted November 2, 2001 Report Share Posted November 2, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Harut:(kovkasian lezuneri mets azdetsutyun)What does that say? Caucasian tongues/languages...? What? What are you guys talking about, anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAS Posted November 2, 2001 Report Share Posted November 2, 2001 Harut, havanabar grabarum( hin hayerenum) nuynpes sheshtavorum@ yeghel e verjnavankayin, qanzi yerku zhamanakakic grakan lezunerum(arevela(arevmta)hayerenum ) yev shat barbarnerum ayn pahpanvel e: Inch verabervum e hamshenahyerenin, apa kovkasyan lezuneri "meghqn" ays kapakcutyuamb nvazaguyn e, vorovhetev nranq gaghtel en Trapizoni,Ordui,Oltii,Baberdi shrjanneric: Hamshenahayeren@ mtnum e arevmtahay barbarneri xmbi mej yev shat heshtutyamb kareli e haskanal, yete mi qich...turqeren gites, vorovhetev shat en ogtagortsum turqeren barer( hima el ruserenn e xarnvel): Tats asum er` turqn anitsvats e, bayc xosq@` orhnvats... ...Isk hayeren parapel@ shat hetaqrqir zbaghmunq e: Yete hnaravorutyun liner noric kyanqs sksel, apa anpayman hayoc lezvov u grakanutyamb kzbaghvei... Yerb es verjin angam Hayastanum yeghel? Bnik vorteghaci es? _________________________________________ Rose, voroshel enq Haruti het mi qich hayeren xosel: Kareli e, te akama ... meghanchel enq? Inch vor e, yete nuynisk meghq enq gortsel, apa "jahelneri meghqer@, parvneri viz@ " _____________________________________________ SAS H.G. Mnum e cankanal bolorin urax-zvart-anhog... shabat-kiraki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 2, 2001 Report Share Posted November 2, 2001 SasJAn Ros@ HAy chi .. chem kartsum bavakanin el HAyeren gity vor haskana mez... MOvses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted November 2, 2001 Report Share Posted November 2, 2001 SAS, inch verabervum e sheshtavorman@` kartsum em &isht es: isk hamshenahayereni hasin` chgitei vor ayn hamarvum e arevmtahayereni mi &yugh: hetakrkir e: bayts asem vor mievnuynn e ochinch chem haskanum: turkereni masin. ayo, shat hetakrkir lezu e (chnayats vor chem haskanum) yev shat khratakan khosker unen: asem vor shat em sirum hayots lezun yev grakanutyun@: bayts avakh, poshmanel em vor shat jank chem tapel ayn liovin usumnasirelu hamar(khosk@ grakanutyan masin e): chnayats vor der shat ush che, bayts zhamanaki yev informatsiayi hartsn e vor khangarum e: pataskhanelov verjin yerku hartsrit asev, vor america em teghapokhvel @ndamen@ yerek tari araj: yes tsnvel em Yerevanum: hayrs nuynpes tsnvel e ayntegh: mayrs` Hoktemberianum (Armavir): papers yeghel en Halepits (nrants tsnoghnern ayntegh en teghapokhvel Urfayits(Yedesia)): mi tats tsnvel e Nakhijevanum, myus@` Gyumrium:hetakrkir kombinatsia e che? isk du vorteghits es? yev inchov es zbaghvum? ---- H.G. inch e nshanakum <> vor dnum es grvatskid verchum??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted November 3, 2001 Report Share Posted November 3, 2001 quote:Originally posted by SAS:_________________________________________Rose, voroshel enq Haruti het mi qich hayeren xosel:Kareli e, te akama ... meghanchel enq? Inch vor e, yete nuynisk meghq enq gortsel, apa"jahelneri meghqer@, parvneri viz@ " _____________________________________________SASH.G. Mnum e cankanal bolorin urax-zvart-anhog... shabat-kiraki Excuse me, but it is considered rude to address a person in a language they do not know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAS Posted November 4, 2001 Report Share Posted November 4, 2001 Beauty Rose, sorry... ____________________________ MosJan, chgiti du el targmanir` te che meghq@... qo vzin kmna ___________________________ Harut, sksem verjic... H.G. = P.S. = Het Grutyun Tsnundov Javaxqic em, masnagitutyamb matematikos,ashxatum em vorpes tsragravorogh... @ndamen@ yereq tari? Isk yes hamarya im gitakacakan amboghj kyanqn aprelem Hayastanic yev haykakan mijavayric durs... Moskvayum:_______________________ SAS [ November 04, 2001: Message edited by: SAS ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 SAS, shnorhakalutyun H.G.-i hamar: matematikos? ba inchu mer "mathematics" topicin ches masnaktsum? matematica shat em sirum: sovorum em tsragravorum: hetkrkir e? ayo, @ndamen@ 3 tari: isk moskvayum hayer chkan, vor hayerits heru es mnatsel?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAS Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Harut, Moskvayum ( hatkapes hima ) shat hayer kan, bayc da der chi nshanakum e, te ka...haykakan mijavayr: Matematikosneri topic? Arajin angam em lsum... Matematikan hetaqrqir e, vorovhetev Afrikayum el matematika e, isk tsragravorum@... nman e qmayqot knoj` shut-shut popoxvum e yev amen or nor pahanjner dnum... Miayn tes, te qani tarber "languages" kan` xentanal kareli e` yev zhamanak ar zhamank norern en durs galis... H.G.Hetaqrqir e miayn ayn gortsneutyun@, yerb, nax` dra hamar vardzatrutyun ches aknkalum( kam aknkalelu hetagayum ), yerkrord`... ka nerqin pahanj u mghum:__________________SAS [ November 07, 2001: Message edited by: SAS ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted November 8, 2001 Report Share Posted November 8, 2001 SAS, aha Mathematics topic@. ayo, djbakhtabal hay hamaynk@ moskvayum aynkan el lav vijakum che. kashkhatem tsragravorum@ shat hetakrkir dartsnel ints hamar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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