So, Serbia Is Cleared Of Genocide

[Z'areh]

Apperently, with the absence of orders clearly written on a piece of paper, the International Court of Justice demended from the lawers of the defending party to prove the intent in the minds of the "individuals" who comitted those killings as qualifying as genocide.

 

With the impossibility of such a demend, the International body declared that Serbia cannot be held responsible. But wait..... here's the "funny" part, they finish by saying that the Bosnian Muslims were indeed subjected to genocide.

 

There you have it friends. A politically motivated verdict handed down for a politically convenient reality.

 

Lesson Number 1, for us.

[gamavor]

Zareh, I think there is a clear destinction between Serbia and former Yougoslavia. While the Court verdict in the motives agrees that Bosnian Moslems were subjected to genocide, the perpetrators were the then Yougoslavian leadership who happened to be Serbs. However Republica Srpska is NOT legal heir of Yougoslavia, since the later was disintegrated after the war which led to the creation of four seperate and independant entities.

 

 

[irlandahay]

Zareh, I think there is a clear destinction between Serbia and former Yougoslavia. While the Court verdict in the motives agrees that Bosnian Moslems were subjected to genocide, the perpetrators were the then Yougoslavian leadership who happened to be Serbs. However Republica Srpska is NOT legal heir of Yougoslavia, since the later was disintegrated after the war which led to the creation of four seperate and independant entities.

 

sound familior gamavor jan?

 

Ottoman empire...

[gamavor]

Yeah, sounds familiar, however the Turkish republic is the legal heir of the Ottoman Empire and is still intact - waiting for the hour of the truth.

[neko]

 

There you have it friends. A politically motivated verdict handed down for a politically convenient reality.

 

Lesson Number 1, for us.

 

The reality is that the days of the politically convenient (for NATO and America) break-up of Yugoslavia are over. NATO had too many other fish to fry, and America is like a disgraced relative whose has committed one perversion too many. So, in the resulting vacum, we have a rare outbreak of honesty at the International Court of Justice.

[Z'areh]

Turks have already begun studying how this ruling might affect Turkey. They will be studying the outcome very carefully, so will Armenians, by the way.

 

The decision of the court sounds very political and therefore, slimy. I Think they (Europe) want to go past this issue, and not hold any State responsible for any crimes. Therefore, concentrating on "individual" military men or units comitting crimes against humanity seems to be the ticket.

 

This is going to be the way Turkey, as a State, will be treated if ever the issue of the Armenian Genocide is put in front of any international court.

 

 

[skhara]

The reality is that the days of the politically convenient (for NATO and America) break-up of Yugoslavia are over. NATO had too many other fish to fry, and America is like a disgraced relative whose has committed one perversion too many. So, in the resulting vacum, we have a rare outbreak of honesty at the International Court of Justice.

 

That's an interesting way of putting it.

[Aubépine]

Nato has lost its raison d'etre. It has no use anymore. If it weren't for the U.S. it would have dissolved a long time ago and would have beeen replaced by the W.E.U.

 

Say, if Serbia isn't guilty of Genocide what was Milosevic doing in The Hague? Wasn't he indicted exactly for this reason?

 

 

P.S. This from someone whose father worked for Nato and for quite some time.

My father agrees by the way.

Edited February 28, 2007 by Aubépine

[neko]

Nato has lost its raison d'etre. It has no use anymore. If it weren't for the U.S. it would have dissolved a long time ago and would have beeen replaced by the W.E.U.

 

Ahh, but that's why it went into Serbia - to regain for itself a reason to exist (and it had to invent reasons to justify a self-defence alliance taking offensive actions). And now it is operating all over the place, in regions faw away from its member countries - such as fighting in Afghanistan, and setting up training bases in Georgia.

 

What's the W.E.U.?

 

Say, if Serbia isn't guilty of Genocide what was Milosevic doing in The Hague? Wasn't he indicted exactly for this reason?

 

Probably because those invented reasons couldn't be entirely abandoned right away.

 

P.S. This from someone whose father worked for Nato and for quite some time.

My father agrees by the way.

Agrees with the court's verdict, you mean?

Edited February 28, 2007 by neko

[Aubépine]

Ahh, but that's why it went into Serbia - to regain for itself a reason to exist (and it had to invent reasons to justify a self-defence alliance taking offensive actions). And now it is operating all over the place, in regions faw away from its member countries - such as fighting in Afghanistan, and setting up training bases in Georgia.

Not unlike those drug traffickers, who need more addicts to create a demand.

 

 

What's the W.E.U.??

The Western European Union. The currently inactive future defense arm of the European Union. Actually it predates Nato, but sits at the sidelines since it has no role to speak of.

 

 

Probably because those invented reasons couldn't be entirely abandoned right away. ?

Poor Milosevic. Almost makes me feel sorry for him.

 

 

Agrees with the court's verdict, you mean?

No, he agrees that Nato has no use anymore.

[skhara]

Say, if Serbia isn't guilty of Genocide what was Milosevic doing in The Hague? Wasn't he indicted exactly for this reason?

 

Well he was doing so well that his enemies poisoned him. He humiliated them when they had the floor, and they couldn't bear it to hand the floor to him.