Orthodox Solidarity

[Armenak]

Eastern Orthodoxy and "Oriental Orthodoxy"

Orthodox Christian Information Center

 

The superficial theological milieu of our era has proven most advantageous for ecumenical ideology, which seeks to gloss over the fundamental and abiding differences which distinguish the heterodox confessions from the Orthodox Faith. All too often, such differences are now conveniently dismissed as merely long-standing miscommunications of alternative, yet equally valid, terminological emphases. This perfunctory approach has been eagerly employed by Orthodox modernists in their theological dialogues with the so-called "Oriental Orthodox" churches. The designation "Oriental Orthodox" itself clearly illustrates the ecumenistic tendency to obfuscate essential theological differences with euphemisms. This deceptive appellation, popularized by the defective world view of Western Christian thought—a world view which lumps together such mutually exclusive ecclesiastical entities as the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Assyrian Church of the East (i.e., Nestorians), "Oriental Orthodox" churches, and Eastern Rite Papists (i.e., Uniates, such as Melkites and Maronites) under the umbrella term "Eastern Christians"—, masks the intransigent heresies held for centuries by three main groups: 1) Armenians, 2) Copts and Ethiopians (Abyssinians), and 3) Syrian and Malabarese Jacobites.

 

To bear the name Orthodox, one must confess—without equivocation—the Ecumenical Christology of the Catholic and Apostolic Tradition: Jesus Christ united without confusion within His Own Hypostasis His Divine Nature and His Human Nature, His Divine will and His Human will, and His Divine energy and His Human energy. There is no room here for semantic sidestepping. A recent study of Non-Chalcedonianism by the Monastery of Saint Gregory (Gregoriou) on Mt. Athos, The Non-Chalcedonian Heretics: A Contribution to the Dialogue Concerning the "Orthodoxy" of the Non-Chalcedonians, came to this same conclusion (see "Publications" at the back of this issue):

 

A great ecclesiological chasm exists between us and the Non-Chalcedonians, which only the explicit confession of the holiness and ecumenicity of the Fourth and the following three Holy Ecumenical Synods on the part of the Non-Chalcedonians can bridge. Any manifest or hidden deviation whatsoever from Orthodox dogma, for the sake of some union contrary to the truth, will occasion only harm to immortal souls and suffering for the Church [p. 41]

 

In contrast to our ecumenist counterparts, who—to the detriment of their fellow man—reinforce the Monophysites in their error, we traditionalists, out of love both for the Truth and for those who have deviated from it, challenge the Monophysites to accept the standard of True Orthodox Christianity. Let the Non-Chalcedonian heretics become truly Oriental Orthodox: Let their spiritual orientation turn eastward, facing the Chalcedonian sunrise that dawns universally from the noetic Anatolia of Eastern Orthodoxy, where the Theanthropic One, "Whose Name is Orient" (Zechariah 6:12 [LXX]), the God-Man Christ Jesus, rises in Truth. Only then, when they have renounced their heterodox beliefs, can we genuinely address these theologically disoriented Easterners as Orthodox brethren.

[annannimusss]

I hate articles that spew crap like that.These people who write articles like this really need to use there brains and listen to there own churhces policies.The Greek Church stopped labling the Armenian Church heretics in 1990,so people who continue to spew crap need to get in line with there own churches policies.

[Eurocentric]

What a load of crap.

[gamavor]

A great ecclesiological chasm exists between us and the Non-Chalcedonians, which only the explicit confession of the holiness and ecumenicity of the Fourth and the following three Holy Ecumenical Synods on the part of the Non-Chalcedonians can bridge. Any manifest or hidden deviation whatsoever from Orthodox dogma, for the sake of some union contrary to the truth, will occasion only harm to immortal souls and suffering for the Church [p. 41]

 

The real heretics are the Chalkedonians. Eastern Orthodox are nothing but Chalkedonian herecy. They believe in a lie that has been in circulation for many centuries. Two natures, united, without confusion, without seperation which is the formula of Chalkedon is nothing but ONE NATURE, i.e. the nature of Christ!

If the two natures were united, who united them? Was Jesus "made" or he existed before his human nature?

[annannimusss]

Gamavor,to answer your question we must look to the Nicean Creed.I hope this helps.

 

We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, the

maker of heaven and earth, of things visible and

invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the

begotten of God the Father, the Only-begotten, that

is of the essence of the Father.

God of God, Light of Light, true God of true God,

begotten and not made; of the very same nature of the

Father, by Whom all things came into being, in

heaven and on earth, visible and invisible.

Who for us humanity and for our salvation came

down from heaven, was incarnate, was made human,

was born perfectly of the holy virgin Mary by the

Holy Spirit.

By whom He took body, soul, and mind, and

everything that is in man, truly and not in semblance.

He suffered, was crucified, was buried, rose again on

the third day, ascended into heaven with the same

body, [and] sat at the right hand of the Father.

He is to come with the same body and with the glory

of the Father, to judge the living and the dead; of His

kingdom there is no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, in the uncreated and

the perfect; Who spoke through the Law, prophets,

and Gospels; Who came down upon the Jordan,

preached through the apostles, and lived in the saints.

We believe also in only One, Universal, Apostolic,

and [Holy] Church; in one baptism in repentance, for

the remission, and forgiveness of sins; and in the

resurrection of the dead, in the everlasting judgement

of souls and bodies, and the Kingdom of Heaven and

in the everlasting life.

 

From:http://www.armenianchurchlibrary.com/files/creed.pdf

Edited August 18, 2006 by SakoPasha

[Ludwig9]

The real heretics are the Chalkedonians. Eastern Orthodox are nothing but Chalkedonian herecy. They believe in a lie that has been in circulation for many centuries. Two natures, united, without confusion, without seperation which is the formula of Chalkedon is nothing but ONE NATURE, i.e. the nature of Christ!

If the two natures were united, who united them? Was Jesus "made" or he existed before his human nature?

 

Good point

[Arpa]

The only ORTHO I know is the chemical company whose main products are "fertilizers", read "horse manure".

The word is from the Greek to mean "correct/straight" as in chemistry the top of a formula is called "ortho", the middle- "meta" and the lower-"para". As an extension, then there are three "orthodoxy"s , the one on top (north), the middle (east) one and the lower (south) one?

Does "ortho" aplly to that so called soviet "ortho"-graphy?

These people should learn Armenian where "or" sounds like "vor".

Was Jesus "orthodox" or "Catholic", or maybe an "Apostolic"?? Yeah, yeah we know, He was an "orthodox hrya". And, here we are, the "idiots" fighting over a Greek word.

Edited May 14, 2010 by Arpa