DominO123 Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 He is contributing on Wikipedia under the alias Ankaram for various reasons. First, an anonymous user added articles about anti-semitism in Armenia published by the Journal of Turkish Weekly, which may be pratically called Laciners journal, he also created Sedat Laciner article and has contributed in various articles relating him, and guess what he has also registered under Slaciner http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Slaciner When passing the merging test, I discovered that both have contributed in the same article and that the merging shows a continuity. This also means that our dear professor knows of my existance because I have posted in the talk page of the anti-semitism article which he 'vandalised' after I have posted my material. My suspicions about recent organized things happening on Wikipedia have been confirmed, Turkish autorities do have an eye on there... and I just hope that he visit the Armenian genocide article so that I can expose him and expose his arguments. By now he probably knows about me. Why should I not ask him why is he posting under two different aliase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hytga Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Why should I not ask him why is he posting under two different aliase? he's probably unaware that you know. Surprisie him when he least expects it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 he's probably unaware that you know. Surprisie him when he least expects it. He will learn that I am not that Armenian journalist he has slandered, I have read all of his articles in English involving the Armenians and knows all of his trash, I am prepared to whatever he could poop, which was not the cases of that journalist that was slandered. For now he can not edit the Armenian genocide article since it has been blocked for edition for new users and unregistered anonymous editors but I have evidences that before that he did edit it under the same IP address he added the material on the anti-semitism article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Jews are treated very well in Armenia. Given that Israel enables Turkey's amnesia, Armenians are very tolerant indeed. How do you think Armenians would be treated in Israel if the ROA claimed that the Holocaust never existed. Even now, Armenians living in Israel are treated much worse than are Jews living in Armenia. Do youth in Armenia spit on Rabbis or religious symbols of Judaism, like the incidents where Israeli youth spit on Armenian priests and crosses in Israel. No, and there has even been intermarriage between Armenians and Jews, as Kasparov is a prime example. Laciner is desperate. American Jewish opinion has soured on Turkey. Mein Kampf is a bestseller there, movies show American Jewish doctors as Mengeles, Hamas is a welcome guest there. The Turks are losing their strongest allies in America. For decades, they have worked feverishly to maintain a Jewish veto on issues of concern to Armenians. The Turks are in a state of alarm. Laciner wants to bring "the good ol' days" back when American Jews acted as their "third column." So he creates false history. He is trained as a political scientist, not a historian, and he operates as a politician not as a social scientist. The Jewish community lives very comfortably in Armenia. In fact "Jews migrated to Armenia from other parts of the Soviet Union because of the high level of tolerance there. As for anger toward Israel for its stance on the Genocide, that is understandable and justified. He will learn that I am not that Armenian journalist he has slandered, I have read all of his articles in English involving the Armenians and knows all of his trash, I am prepared to whatever he could poop, which was not the cases of that journalist that was slandered. For now he can not edit the Armenian genocide article since it has been blocked for edition for new users and unregistered anonymous editors but I have evidences that before that he did edit it under the same IP address he added the material on the anti-semitism article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 QBR jan can you pm me what Domino stends for PLease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 I would prefer to have an inch of political interest advancement for Armenia by other major players than one thousand debate wins over lying Turk forumers. Our aim should be gaining other powerful lobbies on our side. Everybody knows what the truth is and we all know that other lobbies are operating not with truth but with their interests in mind. So catching an idiot Turk in a lie or a slander will not help us, but convincing other lobbies that helping Armenia will help their interests will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 (edited) /// Edited April 3, 2006 by QueBeceR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 I would prefer to have an inch of political interest advancement for Armenia by other major players than one thousand debate wins over lying Turk forumers. Our aim should be gaining other powerful lobbies on our side. Everybody knows what the truth is and we all know that other lobbies are operating not with truth but with their interests in mind. So catching an idiot Turk in a lie or a slander will not help us, but convincing other lobbies that helping Armenia will help their interests will. I always wished to expose Laciner, starting with his slanderous book about the movie Ararat and recently his slanderous answers to the Armenian journalist Maral Ohanessian. This man had contributed to the so-called Institute of Armenian Studies founded by Ankara and is the director of an Ankara funded organization. And now he thinks he can spew his venum in Wikipedia. He will learn that I am not Maral Ohanessian or the other easy targets he has chosen. This man intrusion in Wikipedia is newspaper material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 I always wished to expose Laciner, starting with his slanderous book about the movie Ararat and recently his slanderous answers to the Armenian journalist Maral Ohanessian. This man had contributed to the so-called Institute of Armenian Studies founded by Ankara and is the director of an Ankara funded organization. And now he thinks he can spew his venum in Wikipedia. He will learn that I am not Maral Ohanessian or the other easy targets he has chosen. This man intrusion in Wikipedia is newspaper material. I know who Laciner is and what he writes, I also know when and why Ankara institution is founded for. This institution is not for studies of history but for political revision of history. This fact is known to all the major players even it might have been suggested by one of them to get established. Let this institution spew their venum and falsehood. Most of the time they contradict themselves as the Defence minister Vecdi did in LA when he said that Armenians attacked the Turks and than the Turkish army killed them meaning the Armenians, all along they were denying that the army didn't kill them but the harsh weather conditions and hunger did. As Arpa would say let them shoot themselves in the foot or let them put their big foot equally in their big mouth. So my opinion is let them incriminate themselves by talking too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 I know who Laciner is and what he writes, I also know when and why Ankara institution is founded for. This institution is not for studies of history but for political revision of history. This fact is known to all the major players even it might have been suggested by one of them to get established. Let this institution spew their venum and falsehood. Most of the time they contradict themselves as the Defence minister Vecdi did in LA when he said that Armenians attacked the Turks and than the Turkish army killed them meaning the Armenians, all along they were denying that the army didn't kill them but the harsh weather conditions and hunger did. As Arpa would say let them shoot themselves in the foot or let them put their big foot equally in their big mouth. So my opinion is let them incriminate themselves by talking too much. Yerevant1, the man is on Wikipedia and is editing articles, he has registered another account to edit Armenian related articles, so you are proposing me to let him do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Yerevant1, the man is on Wikipedia and is editing articles, he has registered another account to edit Armenian related articles, so you are proposing me to let him do that? No I'm not saying that you should stop. First of all if entries in Wikipedia is that easy to edit by Dick and Jane who registers then I would question the realibility of it's content and any reasonable person should feel the same. This looks like cat and mouse chase rather than informative media. Are you telling me that any member can edit someone elses entry in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 No I'm not saying that you should stop. First of all if entries in Wikipedia is that easy to edit by Dick and Jane who registers then I would question the realibility of it's content and any reasonable person should feel the same. This looks like cat and mouse chase rather than informative media. Are you telling me that any member can edit someone elses entry in there? this is what is it says on the home page Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. so how seriously would one take the information posted if anyone can edit any post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 this is what is it says on the home page Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. so how seriously would one take the information posted if anyone can edit any post? I think this is nothing but a business scam the more you visit the more the site gets money from ads. Quebecker after this information if you still want my opinion yes get out of there and use your energy and knowledge somewhere else where it is more beneficial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 No I'm not saying that you should stop. First of all if entries in Wikipedia is that easy to edit by Dick and Jane who registers then I would question the realibility of it's content and any reasonable person should feel the same. This looks like cat and mouse chase rather than informative media. Are you telling me that any member can edit someone elses entry in there? Well no, right now, the Armenian genocide article is locked for new members and unregistered members a decision taken by an administrator, this is why right now Laciner is not editing it, because he simply can not edit it. There are administrators and debates going on, it isen't that easy to place whatever you want without being debated, there are concensus stuff etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 I think this is nothing but a business scam the more you visit the more the site gets money from ads. Quebecker after this information if you still want my opinion yes get out of there and use your energy and knowledge somewhere else where it is more beneficial. Yeh, but you should first check where Wikipedia rank. I have read articles in which my additions were included, and right now my two technical articles about the Ottoman Armenian population, and the other about casulties have not been much vanadallised because they are too technical for revisionists to understand what they can add, and if they remove, editors will just add them back, because removal of material without justification is considered vandalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Yeh, but you should first check where Wikipedia rank. I have read articles in which my additions were included, and right now my two technical articles about the Ottoman Armenian population, and the other about casulties have not been much vanadallised because they are too technical for revisionists to understand what they can add, and if they remove, editors will just add them back, because removal of material without justification is considered vandalism. Well I wish you good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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