Blarney And Baloney

[Arpa]

Or shall we call it Blarney and Basturma?

 

Today, March 17, 2006 is St Patrick’s Day.

What?

You didn’t know it?

You did not wear a piece of green clothing, had corned beef and cabbage or drank green beer?

Shame on you!

Is there a Sourb Grigor (Loussavorch) Day?

Don’t go by me. I have don‘t have the slightest idea about our , or that matter about any saints.

St. Patrick, just like St. Griogor (Parthian)was born of alien parentage.

 

“Patrick was born around 385 in Scotland, probably Kilpatrick. His parents were Calpurnius and Conchessa, who were Romans living in Britian in charge of the colonies.”

See hee:

http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=89

OK, OK!

St. Patrick rid Ireland of snakes.

So did Sb. Lousavorich rid Armenia of the Zoroastrian “snakes”.

Then why is it that every year on March 17 the entire world becomes “Irish” while that same world has never heard of St. Grigor, who btw, precedes that “leprechaun” by at least 85 years??

Can we beat that “blarney” with “baloney” of ours?

[Yervant1]

Or shall we call it Blarney and Basturma?

 

Today, March 17, 2006 is St Patrick’s Day.

What?

You didn’t know it?

You did not wear a piece of green clothing, had corned beef and cabbage or drank green beer?

Shame on you!

Is there a Sourb Grigor (Loussavorch) Day?

Don’t go by me. I have don‘t have the slightest idea about our , or that matter about any saints.

St. Patrick, just like St. Griogor (Parthian)was born of alien parentage.

 

“Patrick was born around 385 in Scotland, probably Kilpatrick. His parents were Calpurnius and Conchessa, who were Romans living in Britian in charge of the colonies.”

See hee:

http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=89

OK, OK!

St. Patrick rid Ireland of snakes.

So did Sb. Lousavorich rid Armenia of the Zoroastrian “snakes”.

Then why is it that every year on March 17 the entire world becomes “Irish” while that same world has never heard of St. Grigor, who btw, precedes that “leprechaun” by at least 85 years??

Can we beat that “blarney” with “baloney” of ours?

Hey Arpa but we have Sourp Krikor Lousavoritch Church in every city in the world. Can you say that about St. Patrick?

[Arpa]

Hey Arpa but we have Sourp Krikor Lousavoritch Church in every city in the world. Can you say that about St. Patrick?

Will you guys please turn the volume down!!

This silence is too deafening!

Where did our, generically speaking, to include the Apostolic, Catholic and Evangelical “lousavorchakan”, aka Christian Soldiers go? Under which rock are they hiding?

If we are so proud and secure in our so called Chrsitian(lousavorchakan) heritage then why don’t we have Sb. Grigor holiday?

Observe below. Have I missed something? Does it say which day of the year is Sb. Grigor day?

 

http://www.armenianchurch.net/church/gregory.html

http://www.armenianchurch.net/church/index.html

http://www.armenianchurch.net/prayer/feasts.html

 

Of course! St. Paddy’s day is a bacchanalian (Guiness) beer and (Irish) whiskey alcoholically polluted day. Aramazt forbid that we, the somber and sober Armenians were to have such a drunkenally “pagan holiday”.

Or, is it that we are still in the process of sorting out to see if St. Grigor brought us an era of celebratory plenty or a lamentable (“Blessed are the poor/Yerani [hogvov] aghgadnerin“)”poverty!

And… We are poor, we have no reason to celebrate, we have plenty reasons and occasions to lament, commemorate and commiserate (April 24).

So!

Did you say when St. Greggy’s day of celebration is??

[Yervant1]

Will you guys please turn the volume down!!

This silence is too deafening!

Where did our, generically speaking, to include the Apostolic, Catholic and Evangelical “lousavorchakan”, aka Christian Soldiers go? Under which rock are they hiding?

If we are so proud and secure in our so called Chrsitian(lousavorchakan) heritage then why don’t we have Sb. Grigor holiday?

Observe below. Have I missed something? Does it say which day of the year is Sb. Grigor day?

 

http://www.armenianchurch.net/church/gregory.html

http://www.armenianchurch.net/church/index.html

http://www.armenianchurch.net/prayer/feasts.html

 

Of course! St. Paddy’s day is a bacchanalian (Guiness) beer and (Irish) whiskey alcoholically polluted day. Aramazt forbid that we, the somber and sober Armenians were to have such a drunkenally “pagan holiday”.

Or, is it that we are still in the process of sorting out to see if St. Grigor brought us an era of celebratory plenty or a lamentable (“Blessed are the poor/Yerani [hogvov] aghgadnerin“)”poverty!

And… We are poor, we have no reason to celebrate, we have plenty reasons and occasions to lament, commemorate and commiserate (April 24).

So!

Did you say when St. Greggy’s day of celebration is??

Every sunday.

[Arpa]

Speaking of Blarney, here is some Baloney, or is it Corned Beef? for you to chew on.

Needess to say, I have/do know the personnae mentioned, if some more intimately than others.

From one of our local papers;

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Corned beef keeps Levonians in the 'green'

By: Kathryn Caggianelli, The Record 03/17/2006

 

Troy Record, NY

March 17 2006

 

TROY - In early January, the curing process begins. By St. Patrick's

Day, more than one million pounds of beef brisket will have been

shipped to consumers throughout the Northeast.

 

Corned beef is a family tradition at Levonian Brothers. The third

generation family-owned business at 27 River St. has been around

since 1947. Corned beef is their specialty.

 

"St. Patrick's Day is our Christmas," President Rob Nazarian said.

 

Fifty to 60 percent of Levonian's total corned beef sales for the year

are made by St. Patrick's Day. That translates into innumerable three-

to four-pound uncooked briskets, ranging in price from $10 to $20,

depending on the grade and cut of beef. They're sold to area Price

Chopper and Hannaford stores, local independent markets and Big Y

grocery stores throughout New England. Prepared corned beef roasts

are sold to a number of delis, Nazarian said.

 

"We sell an Angus beef version to Price Chopper. It's the

highest quality you can get and will run between $15 to $20 for a

three-to-four-pound brisket," he said.

 

Other products prepared by Levonian Brothers include roast beef,

pastrami, hot dogs and smoked ham. The company buys meat and poultry

for distribution from midwest manufacturers that include National Beef,

Cargill and Tyson.

 

In the early 1970s the company expanded its distribution services and

started producing meat products. The move was a marketing strategy

that paid off, Nazarian said.

 

"We did it to create our own brand. We became more than just the

middle man," Nazarian said.

 

Though he wasn't willing to disclose how profitable the business is,

or how expansion affected the profit margin, Nazarian did admit that

the business is thriving.

 

So why specialize in corned beef? Doing so required little in terms

of start-up costs. All that was needed was a packaging machine and

injector. The curing solution is a relatively inexpensive mixture of

water, salt and seasonings. All-beef rounds are used, he said.

 

Corned beef certainly wasn't a tradition for the Armenian family before

that time. For that matter, corned beef isn't even a true Irish dish,

Nazarian said.

 

"It's a tradition here in the states. In the old days people had

meat and vegetables sitting in cure in their basements. In the spring

they'd clean out their basements and cook up everything that was left

over from the fall harvest," he said.

 

The meal later somehow became associated with St. Patrick's Day,

Nazarian said.

 

There are some who might not agree with his theory, however.

 

"According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, originally corned

beef and cabbage was a traditional dish served for Easter Sunday

dinner in rural Ireland. The beef, because there was no refrigeration

at the time, was salted or brined during the winter to preserve it.

 

It was then eaten after the long, meatless Lenten fast," write chefs

Stephen Block and Stephen Holloway, authors of "The History and Irish

Tradition of Corned Beef," for The Kitchen Project, an online resource

found at www.kitchenproject.com.

 

The same article questions the validity of that claim, however,

because beef was said to be a delicacy that only the rich could afford.

 

Regardless of its origins, corned beef remains a top seller for

Levonian Brothers.

 

When brothers Elia Y. and Levon Y. Levonian, and their nephews Elia

M. and Levon M. Levonian, started the distribution business more than

five decades ago when they targeted small, independent markets in

the area. Today the company boasts a staff of 75 and a two-building

facility of approximately 60,000 square feet. Two other nephews,

Gregory L. Nazarian and Ralph Darian worked for their uncles during

college vacations and eventually went on to become managing directors

in 1957 and corporate officers in the 1970s, according to Nazarian.

 

After graduating from Siena College in 1990 Rob Nazarian, Gregory's

son, came on board. He went on to become president in 1997.

 

Rob's two sisters had no interest in running the business so the job

seemed like the logical path for him to follow, he said.

 

"We'd like to keep it in the family for years to come but I don't

have any children yet," Nazarian said.

 

The above mentioned Levon Levonian that I knew more intimately was better known as “Doc” (Levonian). The reason being, as he was highly educated, first at Aintab College and subsequently at its second home Aleppo College, he was destined to study medicine to become a medical doctor… the nickname stuck regardless that he ended up dissecting beef instead of cadavers.

During his illustrious “reign” no Armenian party or food festival, regardless of denominational or factional affiliation needed to worry where the (free of charge)meat was coming from, be it the choicest steak or the best ground khorovats beef/lamb.

As the community sorely misses him, the Nazarians and the Darians have adequately and generously filled the void he has left behind.

 

I can't find much about "Doc", even though he was the tresurer of the AMAA for the longest time.

You may survey his bio here, if indirectly.

 

Ophelia Levonian , 94

Troy Ophelia Levonian , 94 ,of Detroit Avenue Troy died Friday, August 6, 2004 at Samaritan Hospital in Troy after a brief illness.

 

Born in Aintab, Turkey, she was the daughter of the late Dr. Movses Levonian and Louise Levonian.

 

She moved to Allepo, Egypt many years ago and since 1923 had resided in Troy and was a graduate of Troy High School class of 1930.

 

Miss Levonian was the office manager and bookkeeper for the family business, Levonian Brothers Meat Packing in Troy from 1947 until her retirement in 1975.

 

She was a member of the United Armenian Calvary Congregational Church in Troy.

 

Survivors include several cousins, Ralph Darian (Toni) of Schenectady, Ann Balian (Zaven) of Colonie, Hermine Nazarian of Loudonville, Harry Guzelemian (Alice) of Solana Beach, CA and Leo Darian (Mary) of Colonie. She was predeceased by two brothers, Elia 'Ace' M. Levonian and Levon 'Doc' M. Levonian; a sister, Juliette Nazarian; two nephews, Gregory and Edward Nazarian; an aunt, Marie Darian; two uncles, Elia Y. Levonian and Levon Y. Levonian and several great nieces and nephews.

 

Funeral service will be held Saturday, at 11:00 AM at the Bryce Funeral Home Inc. 276 Pawling Avenue Troy with Rev. Aram Marashlian, officiating.

Edited March 19, 2006 by Arpa