Flutes: kaval and ney?

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I'm not very familiar with traditional Armenian instruments? I know about the shepherd's flutes--shvi and srink. Do Armenians (anywhere) play the Kaval and Ney? What note? I play gaval (kaval) and am learning ney (6 key Turkish/Arabic). Note A. I heard Irani ney (5 note) is very versatile. Ney is extremely difficult to play. I have yet to produce even one sound. The Chinese shao and Japanese shakuhachi is remotely similar to Ney, but easier to play.

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Thanks for the site. yes, that picture is an Egyptian ney. They are thinner compared to Turkish ney. There are only few neyzan in this world. It is very, very difficult to play, let alone master. I know of one old Armenian neyzan in Istanbul. He makes excellent quality ney. Faruk Tekbilek is my favorite ney artist.

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The kaval is a very old folk flute from the Balkans, notably Bulgaria, Macedonia, and Turkey. It is an end-blown flute with eight finger holes. An end-blown flute is one which has no windway or fipple on the end you blow into, but it is just a straight hollow tube. You can look right through the thing like a spyglass. A tone is created by blowing across the sharpened edge of the mouthpiece. This takes quite a bit of practice to get the correct embouchure, and makes the instrument very frustrating for the beginning student.

 

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The Picture

The picture above is a Bulgarian kaval in the key of D made by the late master maker Slavi Ivanov, Kameno, Bulgaria. It is made of Cornelian Cherry, or Dryan in Bulgarian, which is a very hard, dark, and increasingly rare wood. It comes apart into three pieces at the enlarged black sockets. The mouthpiece (the left end) is made of cow horn, as are the other black reinforcements. The metal inlay is pewter, in a traditional pattern.

 

? Are armenian using Kaval > Armenians have BLUL I can say it's same us Kaval , this sis what many of the wildwood players Tel me . you can get more pics and info on blul at->

http://www.armenians.com/Arm-music-ins/Blul/index.html

 

http://www.armenians.com/Arm-music-ins/Blul/Mvc-329f.jpg

 

this Blul is mad in Armenia by master Ruben, 6 holes on the top & the thumb hole will gave you the KEY A - B - E , I own 17 befriend Bluls made in Armenia and most of this instruments are mad in 1850 to 1900 , most of this Bluls are mad of Armenian Apricot 1 is made Crystal ( 1985 Arzni ) and I'm having a Silver Blul mad by a good friend of mine , I'm more of a collector then a player I my self I'm not good at playing this instrument, I can Mack a sound or 2 but it's not for me , not after smoking 2 1/2 pack's of cigarets a day.

 

us for the Nay , http://www.mhs.mendocino.k12.ca.us/MenComNet/Business/Retail/Larknet/GifFiles/WindGraphics/ney.gif

I only know 2 masters in Armenia who usto make instruments like this , I have only one instrument like it & that's from Egypt , it's only a souvenir .

 

Movses

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There is a CD by Saro, it is a mixture of Ney and digital music from Mazandaran , south of the Caspian sea.

 

It's name is Ghesse ye ney, I like the track Leyli Jan. I don't know where are you living but in California, France, England and Germany it is easily available.

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I like the sound of Irani ney, although it's a bit fuzzy. It is very versatile due to its 5 fingerhole pattern compared to the Arab-Turko 6. Does it sell in U.S.?

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Originally posted by Gr. Mamigonian:
I like the sound of Irani ney, although it's a bit fuzzy. It is very versatile due to its 5 fingerhole pattern compared to the Arab-Turko 6. Does it sell in U.S.?

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I think In California you can find Iranian Ney, otherwise you canask people to send it by post.