Guest Posted November 7, 2000 Report Share Posted November 7, 2000 This is directly a result of Berj's Rabiz post. Rather than derail that one, I'll start a new one. What Armenian music do you play around odars? Not counting my wife* , I have no hestitation about playing John Bilezikjian or Nune when odars are at my house. Occasionally, I will also play Richard Hagopian. Thinking about it, Rouben H. would be good also. I would never play Harout, Adiss, Maxim, Paul Baghdalian, etc. Not because I'm embarassed, but because like Berj said, "it's not for export." For a different reason from Berj though: I don't expect them to like it. I usually only put on music that has a chance of being liked by my guests. I like trying to expand people's horizons without annoying them. (*)God bless my wife, she tolerates it all. Ouds and clarinets, wailing Anatolian singers, fast punk, heavy metal, electronic dance, Brazilian (she likes that stuff--good dinner music), Japanese Pop, Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, Duke Ellington.....The only album I was ever asked to take off was some Moroccan stuff. It had these screeching horns and it sounded like someone was kicking the drums down a flight of stairs. [This message has been edited by Pilafhead (edited November 07, 2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2000 Report Share Posted November 7, 2000 quote:Originally posted by Pilafhead: It had these screeching horns and it sounded like someone was kicking the drums down a flight of stairs.[This message has been edited by Pilafhead (edited November 07, 2000).]HA HA HA AHA HA HHA ah ha ha hee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2000 Report Share Posted November 7, 2000 Well I have also noticed that Westeners like Classical music more. dance music is too much for them. by the way R. Hagopian is too oriental, I can't lissten to it more than a quarter. I also know what pilafhead is talking about. We have in Holland some 300000 Maroccans, and I know their music is really a punishment to ear. BTw I find Armenian music of Iranahy singer Andy also intersting, especially Alagoz achere and Yerevan baghe mare jigeres daghe mare (right sentences?) [This message has been edited by Iranyar (edited November 07, 2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2000 Report Share Posted November 7, 2000 I hate classical music. I think some dance music is quite good, disco, r&b influences, GARAGE with R&B, but some really IS punishment to ear. Some of the stuff they play in the ministry of sound (this london club) is not very good. I was hoping for a night of this amazing music, like they said, but it was all boombady-boom. (They did have a live band and dancers though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2000 Report Share Posted November 7, 2000 Kazza I said Armenian classical music not the European classical music. Armenian classical music is indeed very nice and realxing, I listen to it when I want to realx, and also when I get the inner desire of spiritual mood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2000 Report Share Posted November 8, 2000 Arev yelav Zeituntziner..... Just kidding! Depends how "odar" they are. In general foreigners appreciate very much Armenian classical music and also choral and ecclesiastical music. People from Caucasus and Balkan nations, as well as some Westerners like Armenian folk music. Some of my Bulgarian friends were fond of Armenian Revolutionary songs since most of them have Greek roots and are very close to the popular repertoire during Balkan liberation movements. At least these are my impressions. [This message has been edited by gamavor (edited November 07, 2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2000 Report Share Posted December 9, 2000 Actually I find that my odar friends love Harout! LOL But really they love the Shourtchbar cd I have. Nune is also popular, my Peruvian friend swears it reminds him of Huaynos, the melancholy songs of the Andes. Truthfully though I play more Persian music than Armenian, and I play Alabina and Khaled ad nauseum! Also Anna Vissi and Kati Harpi(I think that is the last name, I don't know its Greek to Me!) are making it into my regular rotation. This is when I am not waxing nostalgic with 80s Smiths, New Order, Cure etc. or in a Rock en espanol mood with La Ley etc. But of course, as usual I divert from the topic:Armenian music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 11, 2000 Report Share Posted December 11, 2000 None, my friend, none. No armo music for non armos. Not from me, anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 11, 2000 Report Share Posted December 11, 2000 Oh, c'mon! we need to enlighten them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 11, 2000 Report Share Posted December 11, 2000 I hate it when something so important to me is not being understood by the other person. And mostly, odars don't understand the spirit of our music, they just don't get it. And frankly, I refuse to hear some flake over analyze Khachatryan's "gayane" for example....ugh!!! gets to me!! You feel that music, you don't analyze it....they don't understand that...Our music is our soul, I don't need my soul analyzed by someone who couldn't possibly ever understand it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 11, 2000 Report Share Posted December 11, 2000 "Some flake": you don't think much of your odar friends. If you've invited someone to your house, I'd hope they'd be better than that! I'm thinking more of music played in the background. Except for my music geek buddies, it's never, "Here, whadda think of this?". When people come over, I put CDs in the changer on shuffle. There's usually one in there meant to expand their ears without them realizing it. Get 'em subliminally! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2000 Report Share Posted December 12, 2000 quote:Originally posted by Pilafhead:"Some flake": you don't think much of your odar friends. If you've invited someone to your house, I'd hope they'd be better than that! I'm thinking more of music played in the background. Except for my music geek buddies, it's never, "Here, whadda think of this?". When people come over, I put CDs in the changer on shuffle. There's usually one in there meant to expand their ears without them realizing it. Get 'em subliminally! Well, Mikey, my odar friends are some of the most intelligent people in this country and I love 'em. BUT...when Ron the Berkeley grad who's now in investment banking is sitting in my living room I just don't feel like putting on Armo music, not even in the shuffle. He's a great guy, granted, but even for all his brains and all his open mindedness, I just don't feel he truly understands certain parts of our culture (his girlfriend is armenian and all, but even then). So that makes him a flake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2000 Report Share Posted December 12, 2000 Ok. What was I going to say?i think that Armo music to odars,....well. I can certainly understand where your coming from, Gayanne, that if you feel that something is special and personal to you that you don't want another person making ignorant comments, or sitting and nodding and they don't understand. That's the way I feel about showing my art. But shouldnt we be making them understand? Mabye the point of music and art is to get a message accross to the person. I dont know who had analysed Khachatryan or whether he is a flake (sorry if i spelled it wrong - bloody hell no wonder we armenians are good spellers - we'd have to be wouldnt we.) Mabye I will have to check that reveiw out. Making them learn something and think. Is Armenian music just for armenians or is it for both Armenians and odars? I think that it is for both because like i said I think music should put a message accross, and we want our sufferings, joys, etc in life to be recognised by odars, ? Then what better way of doing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2000 Report Share Posted December 12, 2000 Oh my gosh! Please Garik Jan delete the other 40000 copies of my post! the submit button woudn'yt work! I undertsand that there is however vertain music which you play around odars and some, which you dont. Harout and Nune are easy ones because they are just stereotypical, sqeak y pop. I also think that it's the way you present the music you play. I think it's also the way the musicicans and procducers present the music they make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 Gayane jan if odars can't understand our music why the same Khachatryan's 'Suserov par' is so popular and why we hear more and more armenian music (duduk for example) in Holywood movies, songs and shows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 Gayane, I have to disagree with you on this one. Give the odars a chance! I play Nune, and traditional Armenian music for my Odar Mexican students and they love it! Music can break boundaries. By the way, at the next pow wow I go to I am going to play Djivan Gasparyan! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2000 Report Share Posted December 14, 2000 Garik...That's business. They think it "fits" well with whatever it is they're putting out (movie, etc). I'm talking about listening for enjoyment. Plus, I didn't say ALL odars, some. (it's so rare to get a post out of you, you surprised me..lol) Steve...I can just imagine. what a crack up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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