Guest Posted October 25, 2000 Report Share Posted October 25, 2000 -= ARMENIAN DUDUK =- http://www.armenians.com/Arm-music-ins/Duduk/Duduks-main/Duduks-by-Karlen/MKS/VH-duduk/Mvc-271s.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2000 Report Share Posted October 25, 2000 What a lovely instrument Any1 offereing duduk lessons? Anyone? By the way MosJan, where have you been lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2000 Report Share Posted October 25, 2000 Bareev Kaza jan ohh man i forgat . are you in USA? Italy ? if your in USA CAlifornya no problem . I can get you 15 to 20 duduk Masters . I left for Colorado / on a hunting trip. just came back 24hr. a go . working on this Duduk Web page http://www.armenians.com/Arm-music-ins/Dud...uduk/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2000 Report Share Posted October 26, 2000 I love the sound of it, but it's way too emotionally painful to listen to for me. It's all the sadness of the Armenians wrapped up into one instrument. However, I recently saw Djivan Gasparian live and to hear him in person was "cleansing". I don't know how else to describe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2000 Report Share Posted October 26, 2000 Last night, while asleep, I saw a concert by Jivan Gasparayan with a jazz quartet in LA. He came to me after the concert and asked "How was it?" I said, o man, I couldn't believe it was duduk [This message has been edited by MJ (edited October 26, 2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2000 Report Share Posted October 26, 2000 So, was this in a dream or out of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2000 Report Share Posted October 26, 2000 Kazza, lol... of coarse it was a dream. I was asleep... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2000 Report Share Posted October 26, 2000 1) What is the basic fingering for a Duduk in G, for ex.? Normally a 'G' Duduk plays a low 'G' when covering [closing] the highest 6 holes [from the reed, or mouth, down], AND ALSO partially closing [a little] the 7th hole. So: for right-handed people: L.H. thumb hole + 3 first fingers covering the highest 4 holes [again, from the mouth, or reed, down], & R.H. 3 fingers closing the the next 3 holes, plus also closing a little of the 7th hole. The higher 'G'--one 8ve above--has different fingerings, being the most basic ALL HOLES OPEN! Also, the basic--main--Duduk is in 'A'. That's the key moist used in general. Pedro Eustache [This message has been edited by MosJan (edited October 26, 2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2000 Report Share Posted October 26, 2000 2) Reeds are different and they play different every day! does a height exist to be able to play with others, european musicians To + - 440 Hz? Does other reeds exist to play 430 Hz? 415 Hz? Yes, reeds play differently everyday, & they are a nightmare! That's why we have to have many different reeds [i have 34 reeds!! & 18 duduks, in all keys!] And yes, some reeds are flat [big], other sharp [small] & other OK. You simply have to find right ones. Reeds like humidity, & I prepare mine for playing &/or recording at least 15 to 20 mins before, but putting them in my mouth & getting them ready [i blow very slow on them, like we do when we 'fog' a mirror or glass] After they're ready [the opening between the reeds is approx. 1 to 1.5 millimeters], I keep them in a little plastic, hermetic bag [we call them "Zip-Locks" here in America], so that they stay moisted while playing. I learned this from my first teacher, Mr. Albert Vardanian. NEVER LEAVE THE REEDS FOR MORE THAN ONE HOUR IN THE SEALED BAG. IT WILL DESTROY THE REEDS! Also, You can keep some moisture also by using a little 'humidifier tube' that violin players use, in the same case where you keep your reeds. Or, if you feel like it, buy yourself a cigars 'Humidor', which allows for controlled humidity. Pedro Eustache [This message has been edited by MosJan (edited October 26, 2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2000 Report Share Posted October 26, 2000 3) how much inside the mouth I have to put the reeds? Approx. 1 centimeter [or less!] Pedro Eustache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2000 Report Share Posted October 26, 2000 4) Are the teeth held & covered by lips as in oboe or bassoon?. YES!!, you have to cover your teeth with your lips, but also, VERY IMPORTANT: you have to inflate your cheeks, exactly the same way Dizzy Gillespie use to play the trumpet. That--I find--defines the Duduk sound. [Although, like always, there are exceptions: I know a great master player--Mr. Rubick--who sounds fabulous & doesn't inflate his cheeks!] Pedro Eustache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2000 Report Share Posted October 26, 2000 5) Have you written any melodies/exercises for studying?NO, I have not written any exercises for the duduk yet [i do have my own exercises, plus many others that I learned from my teachers.] That is probably the best thing to do: try to have at least one lesson LIVE! with a very good teacher/player [there are also many bad ones!!] It will make all the difference in the world! Pedro Eustache Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2000 Report Share Posted October 26, 2000 6) Could you please advise me on the best way to mic the duduk? I put the mike literally a bit down from in between my two hands, pointing down a bit, at 3 to 5 inches , (+ or -). Pedro Eustache Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2000 Report Share Posted October 26, 2000 Kazza jan - the top 5 posts are frome a good frend of ming Pedro - one of the Best None Armenian Duduk players , i hopp this helps you . good lock Movses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 31, 2000 Report Share Posted October 31, 2000 quote:Originally posted by MosJan:Kazza jan - the top 5 posts are frome a good frend of ming Pedro - one of the Best None Armenian Duduk players , i hopp this helps you . good lock MovsesHi.I have enrolled in the forum-duduk from little time.I love a lot of the sound of the duduk and I have begun to study.I have a lot of problems and I don't know what exercises to do.Who helps me?You excuse my elementary English but I use a software of translation.Regards.Paolo Gavelli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2000 Report Share Posted November 2, 2000 Hi.I have enrolled in the forum-duduk from little time.I love a lot of the sound of the duduk and I have begun to study.I have a lot of problems and I don't know what exercises to do.Who helps me?You excuse my elementary English but I use a software of translation.Regards.Paolo Gavelli Hello Paolo Gavelli and welcome to this forum -#1 who is the duduk made by ? #2 what is the problem ?is it the dududk or you ?can you paly at all ?can you mack some sorta sund or a melody ?MOvses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2000 Report Share Posted November 6, 2000 Ciao Moses.My duduk originates from Erevan. Is a gift of one friend of mine. My problem is the organization of the job. I don't possess melodies written for studying. My Gamishes play well, I have fingering, but it doesn't correspond. Then I have to sing and after singing with Duduk. Where to find melodies for alone Duduk. With friendship Paolo 77138@katamail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2000 Report Share Posted November 8, 2000 Hello Paolo Gavelli ---#1 My duduk originates from Erevan. Is a gift of one friend of mine. - good #2 My problem is the organization of the job.I don't possess melodies written for studying. - sorry i do not have any Sheet music for Duduk at this time- i'l get you soem whan i can.#3 My Gamishes play well, I have fingering, but it doesn't correspond. - Duduk is a Dayatonic instrument , it's not like a peano or guitar - you do not have Do-re-me-fa-sol-la-ci , stop by at thi s adress you cen se the Fingering-Chart for duduks- http://www.armenians.com/Arm-music-ins/Dud...hart/index.html #4 Then I have to sing and after singing with Duduk. Where to find melodies for alone Duduk. With friendship - sorry Paolo i do not have any duduk Melodis at thi s time . #5 you get yoru self a Chromatic Tuner Digital or analog then you play the duduk one key at the tiem and se what is teh not for that key , than atlist you know what key's are your duduk.MovsesPaolo 77138@katamail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2000 Report Share Posted November 13, 2000 Hello all, This is my first message in this discussion. I want to begin studying how to play duduk, but I don't know where to start . I live in Toronto, Canada, and I'm not sure if there are even any teachers here. I need some guidance. Thanks, Hovig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2000 Report Share Posted November 21, 2000 This is a great forum! Thanks for offering this information! I've been playing the duduk for a short time, and just by reading some of these posts, I realize that I've been playing it all wrong. Are there any books for learning how to play the duduk? How do I know if mine is an "OK" duduk? Where is a good place to buy more reeds? I only have one, and it's being over used, and I think I'm going to need a new one. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 I want to know if the difference between a student model duduk and a professional one is as critical as the difference between reeds of different qualities. I have a duduk (the ones sold at arp music, I do not know who made it) and have noted a great difference depending on the reed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 Their is a huge difference between this Affordable duduks and Pro duduks #1 the wood .it is Apricot but, Master Karlen and Ruben are only using the middle part of the tree , if the Wood Lag is 25" wide and 20" long, Master Karlen will only use the Center of the wood, And he will only make 1 or 2 duduks, Master Ruben Will make 4 to 6 Duduks The Affordable duduks - the same apricot lag will be used to make up to 25 - 30 duduks . #2 This instruments are made my some amateur ,who has no idea on haw to tune this instruments and haw to make a duduk in different keys. #3 The reeds on this instruments are not made for individual duduks, it's generic reeds , again made by a amateur.After MKS or RR have made the duduks #2 step is to make the reed for this individual instrument, it will be tuned my the master , and adjusted to gave you the maximum performance. This Student or beginner or Affordable instruments are sold all over the internet us a Professional instruments If you ask me haw good are this instruments , my honest opinion is , not really if you like a duduk , and if your rely serious , get your self a good duduk made by the PRO.i recommend you to get Master Karlen MKS or Rubens RR instruments , yes it's more money , but it's not a toy . The bottom line is $25 duduk is not going to do anything for you , it's only a Affordable Souvenir !!!! This are the same Duduks that you can find all over the Internet under "Professional Duduks"This are the same instruments that are sold everywhere alls for $50.0 to $100.00 and claming that it has been hand picked by a professional in Armenia I consider this instruments to be Affordable Souvenir Duduks This instruments are very affordable, and ideal if you like to have a Souvenir Duduk at home If you need a Duduk , and if your Serious on learning and playing duduks !!! you don't need this instruments !!!What you need a Professional duduk And i will Guaranty you that it will help your learning processThey are prosaic instruments and have fingering charts ,each duduk and the reed are tuned by the master The Sky is the Limit wan you have High Quality Duduks and Reeds No more confusion, no more guessing what key is your duduk, no more wondering ( is it me or is it the duduk )if your duduk was sold for $25.0 to $40 IT IS YOUR DUDUK Movses [This message has been edited by MosJan (edited January 08, 2001).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted June 19, 2001 Report Share Posted June 19, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Hovig:Hello all,This is my first message in this discussion. I want to begin studying how to play duduk, but I don't know where to start . I live in Toronto, Canada, and I'm not sure if there are even any teachers here. I need some guidance. Thanks, HovigHovig stop by at My duduk web page i have some new duduk info . see if this might help you ..www.DudukOnLine.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 -= Duduk Instruction Video Vol. 1 =- Available NOW At www.DudukOnLine.com http://www.mksduduks.com/Arm-music-ins/Duduk/DidikVideo/Duduk1b.jpg -= Duduk Instruction Video Vol. 1 =- Improve your techniques while Developing your own style. - Instructions and Introduction -Duduk Video Vol. 1VHS - 45 minutes - NTSC Learn The Art Of Armenian Duduk Playing Easy & Quick Course of Armenian Duduk lessons Beginners to Professionals will benefit from this informative instructional video, that can be referred to again and again. Hosted By Albert Vardanyan And Shea A.J. Comfort detailed instructions - handling to maintenance, hand positions, playing tactics, Songs, tuning the duduk and the Reeds, haw to play, haw to practice, and much much more. www.DudukOnLine.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 yes karnei ksovorei, bayts akhr shat anslukh em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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