medya Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 (edited) Hello to all of the Kurds friends, specially Armenians and Greeks . we believe there is a big poetical to make alliance and brotherhood between all those nations who suffered from Turkish Fascist Regime. We all know Turkish propaganda is showing another face of their fascist regime , and unfortunately some powerful countries donate to their chauvinism by calling them Model of Democracy and so . KBU has purchased a domain name www.About-Ataturk.info We are going to put "True" information about Ata-Turk and also Turks in this site. For that we need help of our friends Armenians , Greeks , and others to donate what they have , such as Information, Articles , Photos , Caricature, Flash Movies, …or any other creative thing that comes to your mind . you can post your matterials here or e-mail it to KBU . our e-mail adress is kurdistan.bloggers.union@gmail.com Hopefully this project will be a start to make a permanent brotherhood and alliance between those nations who suffered from Turkish Chauvinist Regime. Long Life Kurdistan Long Life Armenia Long Life Greece Down with Racists Kurdistan Bloggers Union Edited September 3, 2005 by medya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 It is sad that the Kurds did not realize in 1915 that they were being used. When they were freely killing Armenians in the name of Allah, little did they realize that they would be the next in line for slaughter. With the Armenians out of the way, there were no allies left to join with them when the Turks commenced the slaughter of the Kurds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medya Posted September 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 It is sad that the Kurds did not realize in 1915 that they were being used. When they were freely killing Armenians in the name of Allah, little did they realize that they would be the next in line for slaughter. With the Armenians out of the way, there were no allies left to join with them when the Turks commenced the slaughter of the Kurds. style_images/master/snapback.png please dont feeel like that, we kurds are not that kind of muslems, and I want to tell you, I send woe to those who had participated in genocide against Armenians. for sure they were not nominee of kurdish peopel , they were the Jash (Servents of Enemy) today we see in each city there are Jashs , they work for enemy...they kill kurd brothers ....are they nominee of kurdish nation ? no ! those who had done anything bad to armenians were not nominee of kurds .and they were just a FEW jashs. Kurds and Armenians are two nation that have lived beside each other for thousands of the years in peace and love. and we are not goning to let Turks make us Enemy of each other. are we ? we undrestand that our common enemy is Turkey , we should undrestand that Turks will be the first one that would be sad for Kurdish-Armenina Friendship. and those who not let these two nations be friend , actualy do a favor to turkey. long life Armenia , long life Kurdistan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 (edited) For a joint Armenian-Kurdish task force to be formed certain agreements would have to be made. I predict that Iraq will ultimately not hold together and break into three nations. Then the Armenian and Kurdish nations can lobby Turkey to treat their fellow compatriots within Turkey better. Turkey can be a truly democratic nation if it wants to be, treating all with justice and respect. Edited September 3, 2005 by phantom22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 medya i do not wish to see a banner or Add or any URL's or links in your Signature line so for the LAST time !!! medya DO NOT USE ANY BANNER'S / ADD'S / URL'S IN YOUR SIGNETURE LINE !!! NEXT TIME I WILL CLOSE YOU HYEFORUM ACCOUNT FOR GOOD !!! Movses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medya Posted September 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 medya i do not wish to see a banner or Add or any URL's or links in your Signature line so for the LAST time !!! medya DO NOT USE ANY BANNER'S / ADD'S / URL'S IN YOUR SIGNETURE LINE !!! NEXT TIME I WILL CLOSE YOU HYEFORUM ACCOUNT FOR GOOD !!! Movses style_images/master/snapback.png there was no link my signture, and it was just a Logo that showed the recent news ... if you had looked carefully , the text that updated showed RECENT news ... I dont undrestand , whats the problem with that? you can close my account if you not wish to see me here... in KBU forum we have more than 6 Armenians, we have a room JUST to make friendship with armenians....we respect them more than normal users...they put armenian flag in their signture... and now just because I put this Logo that Shows Recent World News in that SMALL banner...you treat me like this ? thanks for your blessings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medya Posted September 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 For a joint Armenian-Kurdish task force to be formed certain agreements would have to be made. I predict that Iraq will ultimately not hold together and break into three nations. Then the Armenian and Kurdish nations can lobby Turkey to treat their fellow compatriots within Turkey better. Turkey can be a truly democratic nation if it wants to be, treating all with justice and respect. style_images/master/snapback.png I agree with you but , please mind that I and my friends in KBU are not poltician or something...we are just Kurds and we are a popular movement...not a poltical party ...we want to make friendship with armenian peopel . and for that we have started a project and we want to do it COMMONLY with Armenians...we ask them to give us the information they want to be said about AtaTurk...in that site. we already have some Armenian good friends in KBU , and we belive we can make friendship between these two nations...and we seek for more friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Opening up of channels of communication are all well and good, but the tasks ultimately are up to governmental entities. If you look to how the Kurds are treated in Armenia, you will see that they are treated very fairly and given support by the authorities. They are treated better there than even some Armenians. As I am part-Assyrian, I am waiting to see if the leaders of the new Kurdistan treat my two heritages as well as the Armenian authorities treat the Kurds in the ROA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medya Posted September 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Opening up of channels of communication are all well and good, but the tasks ultimately are up to governmental entities. If you look to how the Kurds are treated in Armenia, you will see that they are treated very fairly and given support by the authorities. They are treated better there than even some Armenians. As I am part-Assyrian, I am waiting to see if the leaders of the new Kurdistan treat my two heritages as well as the Armenian authorities treat the Kurds in the ROA. style_images/master/snapback.png yeah ...if there be strong popular movement they can do everythng they want. as long as I know Kurdistan Government in Iraqi Kurdistan treats Assyrians and other ethincs very good, I can give you many links that assyrians and christians thanked KRG for helping them and making church for them. in Iraqi Kurdistan , Assyrians Armenians and other ethincs STUDY in their OWN language...Kurdistan Regional Government has made school for them and also books in their own language. I am sure Kurds in Armenia are so much better treated than Turkey Iran Iraq and Syria... do you know that when kurdish leaders talk about kurdistan they say "kurdistan is occupied by 4 countrys Turkey-Iraq -Iran and Syria" they never say Armenia as occupier... by they way I am curious to know do kurds study in their own language in Amenia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 there was no link my signture, and it was just a Logo that showed the recent news ... if you had looked carefully , the text that updated showed RECENT news ... I dont undrestand , whats the problem with that? you can close my account if you not wish to see me here... in KBU forum we have more than 6 Armenians, we have a room JUST to make friendship with armenians....we respect them more than normal users...they put armenian flag in their signture... and now just because I put this Logo that Shows Recent World News in that SMALL banner...you treat me like this ? thanks for your blessings style_images/master/snapback.png and thsi is what the problem is - you just don't undesten - i hav e warned you 3 times and for the last time >>>> medya DO NOT USE ANY BANNER'S / ADD'S / URL'S IN YOUR SIGNETURE LINE !!! <<<< THE END Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 medya, its not only about signature, when you came to this forum you have made some stupid comments and remarks........be cerfull what you post and say, comply with forum code of conduct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 (edited) Medya, ABIDE BY THE RULES or Movses will throw you out. Here is your answer. Look especially at the last three paragraphs. KURDS A more extensive resettlement of Kurds, from Kurdistan into Transcaucasia, started only at the beginning of the 19th century, after the incorporation of Transcaucasia into Russia. Tour Armenia The Kurdish community in Armenia is small but active. There are an estimated 30,000 Kurds living in Armenia in some 21 villages, mostly in the Aragatsotn region about 20 miles northwest of Yerevan. Others are around Aparan and Talin. There is some debate on this, but it seems evident there is a difference between Christian or Muslim Kurds living in Armenia and the Yezidis, who are Kurdish by blood but who have a unique religion. Armenian Muslim Kurds are Sunni, and primarily shepherds, who in summer live in tents while minding flocks along the hillsides near Mount Aragats. One Kurdish family lives close to the peak of Mount Aragats – the highest place in Armenia. Many Kurds in Armenia live a half-nomad life – they bring sheep each spring to the fresh pastures, where they stay until autumn. The following is from the Red Book of Peoples of the USSR (http://www.eki.ee/books/redbook/kurds.shtml): Anthropologically the Kurds belong to the Balkano-Caucasian Caspian type of the European race akin to the Azerbaijanis, Tats, Talysh etc. The language Kurdish is an Indo-European language which belongs to the northwestern Iranian branch and is divided into several dialects. The Kurds of Caucasia and Central Asia speak the kurmandzh dialect. History It is not known when the Kurds first appeared in the Caucasus but single tribes were there from time to time, possibly on the look-out for better pastures. From the 10th to the 12th century the area between the rivers Kura and Arax was ruled by a Shaddadid dynasty of Kurdish ancestry. A more extensive resettlement of Kurds, from Kurdistan into Transcaucasia, started only at the beginning of the 19th century, after the incorporation of Transcaucasia into Russia. Relations between the Kurds and the Persian and Turkish authorities had always been extremely bad, the Kurds persecuted and exterminated by the thousands (a situation that has not improved even by the end of the 20th century), which led some Kurdish tribes and smaller groups to try and find refuge in Russia. They were allocated land and villages which, for one reason or another, had become uninhabited. For example, 600 families settled in Artsax in 1807. The number of migrants increased steadily until the first decades of the 20th century. The Armenians and Kurds were granted certain resettlement privileges after the Russian-Persian wars (1804--1813 and 1826--1828), especially after the Turkmanchai Treaty of 1828. The majority of Kurds settled in Armenia after the Crimean War of 1853--1855 and after the Russian-Turkish War of 1877--1878. A nomadic or semi-nomadic life was the norm until the establishment of Soviet power in 1920. Each tribe had its own herding routes -- in spring up to the mountain pastures, in autumn down again. Usually the pastureland was state-owned and the Kurds had to pay rent. Often, the lands were on long-term private lease, for example in the hands of Russian generals, who also pocketed the land tax. The archaic tribal system and way of life was preserved longest by the nomadic herders who fervently maintained the old customs. The Yezidis were especially conservative. The nomadic herders for a long time retained the black-cover Kurdish tent. In winter and in permanent settlements the farmers lived, just like other ethnic groups, in traditional earth dwellings or even caves dug into the mountain sides. Low clay and stone houses used to be built, in which the living quarters were under the same roof with the cowshed and stable. It was a feature peculiar to the Kurds to have no walled-in courtyard. The most noticeable external change of sovietization had taken place in the type of dwelling. Now the Kurds live in standardized. Some distinctive features still remain; in the Ararat Valley Kurdish houses differ from those of the locals by the absence of a terrace and a wine-press room. A distinctive feature of today's Kurdish women is their exceptional attachment to the national costume in Caucasia as well as in Central Asia. The clothes of Muslims and Yezidis are somewhat different. The Kurdish women like bright contrasting colours while a white shirt is trademark of the Yezidi. The men gave up traditional dress in the middle of the 20th century. The status of Kurds varies from place to place. The nationalist movement is the strongest in Armenia where the Kurds have always been better treated than elsewhere. The Kurdish position was discussed there as early as the 1920s and in 1925 Armenia hosted the First Congress of the Transcaucasian Kurds. The Kurdish language is mainly taught in the Aparan and Talin Regions of Armenia where Kurdish population is large. There is a Kurdological Department of the Institute of Oriental Studies at the Yerevan State University and a Kurdish Writers Union of Armenia. The Kurdish paper Ria Taza (New Way) has been printed since 1930, and there are daily radio broadcasts in Kurdish. Edited September 4, 2005 by phantom22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medya Posted September 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 I didnt Re-Add that Banner to my singature after you warned me. I just put a sample of what was in my signaature in "THE POST" "ONE TIME" so I prove other it was not Adveritse , it was Recent News that was showing in a banner without any Link . if you were a bit moden Mr Admin ,you would undrestand it, in modern world, in the forums peopel put such a News Feeds Banners in their signture. and I deleted that banner after you warned me and I just added ONE sample of that banner so others can see what it was . but now I see that you deleted my signtuare that was JUST THREE Sentences "Long life Armenia , Long Life Kurdistan and Down With Turkey" I want you to explain why you deleted those three sentences and replaced it with your own message? I am sorry , I gave up , I did my best to to make friendship with you Armenians. "SOME" of armenians are not friendly at all , I offfered Love and Friendship to you , and you deleted my Singtuare and Edited my posts and Sweared at me and my nation ... is this how armenian culture works ? to treat a "guest" who says "long life armeina " like this ? good bye I wont come back here , this forum gives me bad feeling about Armenians .... and I dont want to have bad feeling about armenians ., I want just friendship with armenians.. good bye . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 your a big Lying fabricater it was me who took the banner dawn not you and it was you who deleted the signature "Sweared at me and my nation" - me ?? are you sure moran ??? but for sure - it will be me who will delete your account or will ban your sorry ass of this forum so go for it and start learning in this moder world that Lying is not good MOvses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 I wonder whether this Medya was truly a Kurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadArmo Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 I wonder whether this Medya was truly a Kurd. style_images/master/snapback.png Beware of the wolf in sheeps clothing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Perhaps this guy is an Azeri trying to fish for trouble between Armenians and Kurds. You see, a free Kurdistan is a real possibility now. With the now free Armenia, this is a new state of circumstances that the two Turkish nations have not had to deal with before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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