gamavor Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 How about Arabian? Does this mean they are arabs or lived amongst arabs? Weird last name. Arabian comes from "araba" which as far as I know means "cart" or "car". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Arabian comes from "araba" which as far as I know means "cart" or "car". Yes Gams, araba means cart. I don’t have a good Arabic dictionary to see why a cart is known such. My Persian dictionary corroborates it. I don’t know why the cart was called so. Could it be that the Turks saw wheeled vehicles first time when they arrive in the Middle East? There are surnames as Arabian, in which case it refers to Arab, and there are surnames - Arabajian (That cursed turkifying “J” again!!) Conduct a google and see how many (hundreds) hits you get for “arabajian”. Below one of them. I corrupted some of the info. It incidentally means “cart maker” or “cart driver”. I have known a family whose surname was Araboglu-ian. Why were they called araboglu knowing that Turks disdain Arabs. Of course, yet another way to insult(?) us. If they only were as noble as the Arabs!! Levon Arabajian Prof. Dr., Armenian State Pedagogical University Personal Data Birthday: Mar 23, 1949 Address: Khandjian 5, 37010 Yerevan, Armenia Tel: (+374 1) 5.... E-mail: Fields of Interests - Theory of differential and integral equations, - Mathematical physics, - Transfer theory, - Convolution type integral equations, - Nonlinear functional analysis. Memberships Armenian Mathematical Union (AMU) Education Graduate: Leninakan (Gyumry) State Pedagogical Institute, 1967-1972 Post Graduate: Armenian State Pedagogical Institute, 1974-1978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Araba is surley Arabic, but I don't know to what extent Arabs use it. Persians still do. By the way, the most strange and un-Armenian last name that I have ever come across is Bozabalian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Araba is surley Arabic, but I don't know to what extent Arabs use it. Persians still do. By the way, the most strange and un-Armenian last name that I have ever come across is Bozabalian. Don’t even go there! You are torturing me with recurring nightmares when we came so close to enthrone him as Amenayn Hayots. http://www15.dht.dk/~2westh/uk/valg_af_kat..._1999_ii-e.html "It may be assumed beyond doubt that the extra amount of time thus granted the delegates and the leadership of the Church prior to the election itself, was spent discussing the candidates and discuss opinions. The picture emerging over the last couple of days seems the same, the election most likely to take place tomorrow will be between two candidates, archbishop Karekin Nersessian (48 years old), a dynamic bishop for many years in the Ararat Diocese with Yerevan as its center and Nerses Bozabalian (62 years old), churchman and theologian and the chancellor of St. Etchmiadzin." BTW. His late sister, Luisa was an operatic soprano that gave me shivers with her wagnerian voice and stature while at the same timecaused me to vomit with her surname. They should consider to improving their surname to “bokhabalian”. Who is forcing us to live (die) with such disgusting names!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 (edited) I have met himm, and he recentley recieved the Mashtots medal if Im not mistaken. His late sister, Luisa was an operatic soprano that gave me shivers with her wagnerian voice and staturewhile at the same timecaused me to vomit with her surname. Mekhk e, mekhk.. Edited March 3, 2006 by Zartonk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 (edited) I have met himm, and he recentley recieved the Mashtots medal if Im not mistaken. Mekhk e, mekhk.. BTW, I sang with Luisa when she was featured as Zerlina in Don Giovanni at Baalbek. Am I dating myself? So be it, Amen/Ամէն, "I trust/believe". When some of us come here and assume there is nothing to our culture other than that we are the "first Christian/idiots"!! Edited March 3, 2006 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 As I was reading that thread about “HyeMer” in another topic I remembered this. This also shows that those Turkish, so called Armenian surnames are not necessarily coined by the Turks, but by ottomanized and turkified Armenians. Yes! Ourselves. Please note that the suffix “ji” to denote one’s profession or trade is NOT Armenian. Consider a (manufactured) surname like Khachkar-ji-ian. One can only wish that we had a shorter and more concise way to describe a khachkar maker besides “khach-kar-a-gorts-ian!!! Coming back to Hayr Mer- When we were young there was a man in our neighborhood known as “hayrmerji Armen”. Yes his given name was Armen/Armenak. He was known such just as his entire family. We could not understand why. We did not know his real surname, if even he had one. Until, one day it suddenly dawned on me. Armen was a devout Catholic Armenian, he was devout and a very good man. Finally, I observed that whenever he ran into a group of children he would gather them around and recite the HayrMer and proceed to teach them the words. Hence, his “turko-Armenians labeled him as “hayrmerji Armen”. Did he eventually succumb and amend his surname to coincide with the popular culture? Has anyone seen a surname Hayr-mer-ji-ian? I have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 How about Otuzbirian? ) Kurdoglian? Gozubuyukian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubépine Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 How about Otuzbirian? ) You can't be serious can you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 (edited) How about Otuzbirian? ) Kurdoglian? Gozubuyukian? For those who are not fluent in Turkish the first one above is a euphemism for that fruitless exercise of wasting one’s sperms. Was that name created to describe one of own former who comes here day after day spreading his fruitless excretions? Boghos, you must have been reading my minds. I have known people with names like Kurdoglian, and a few day ago I did search the net to see how many there still are. I was floored! Try it! How about Altibarmakian ( actual, please search. I can explain). Then again, as to Gozuboyukian… My take to it is even funnier, if more graphic… Gotuboyukian…? WHY! WHY! WHY! Must we live with such garbage? Where is that law? Who wrote it! As to ozuboyukian, I have known a family by that name. They changed it to Aknerian. Then again. Why do we think that our sanitized surnames must be an exact tranlstaion from another era?? Please don't get any ideas that I view this subject with levity as some of my posts may suggest. It hurts me, stabs me right in the heart, beyond description when I see our own walking/strutting around with names as the above and more. Edited April 26, 2006 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 (edited) Indeed dear Arpa. Otuzbirian, btw, is a real last name. Also Cherkezian, which is fairly common. Edited April 26, 2006 by Boghos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vartan Mamigonian Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Sheshbeshian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Դրօ Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 As to ozuboyukian, I have known a family by that name. They changed it to Aknerian. Then again. Why do we think that our sanitized surnames must be an exact tranlstaion from another era?? Please don't get any ideas that I view this subject with levity as some of my posts may suggest. It hurts me, stabs me right in the heart, beyond description when I see our own walking/strutting around with names as the above and more. My mother's maiden name used to be Gozuboyukian. For a long time that was my mother's family's name. But eventually, they changed it to Ակներեան. It actually sounds pretty, if you ask me. I'm curious. Arpa, do you know my mother's family? Because as far as I know, my mother's family is the only family with the name A(g/k)nerian, since it's a customized Armenian name. If you type "Agnerian" in google, anyone who appears is directly related to me. Although, I still have my father's Turkish last name . I'm thinking about changing it to my mother's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armenak Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 I know of an Agnerian family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Դրօ Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Really? What are their names, if you don't mind my asking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelin Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 My mother's maiden name used to be Gozuboyukian. For a long time that was my mother's family's name. But eventually, they changed it to Ակներեան. It actually sounds pretty, if you ask me. I'm curious. Arpa, do you know my mother's family? Because as far as I know, my mother's family is the only family with the name A(g/k)nerian, since it's a customized Armenian name. If you type "Agnerian" in google, anyone who appears is directly related to me. Although, I still have my father's Turkish last name . I'm thinking about changing it to my mother's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelin Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 (edited) Dears, I am from Austria. My mother in law was a born Gozuboyukian. I am looking for this family all over the world, but I cannot find the brothers and sisters of my mother in law. The family came from Constantinople. I have pictures, 100 years old or more and I do not know the persons on these pictures. Who can help me and where are the Gozuboyukians, Geuzubeuyukians, Gueuzubeuyukians....? If you know something about this family please answer. Thankyou. Edited October 21, 2007 by Evelin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 Is that family of Zeituntsi heritage? Most many are. They are descended from the princely clan of the same name. One of my great aunts by marriage, orphaned in 1915 was descended from that family. At times they have also used the Turkish variant of it. The legend goes: At one time during the early 1800’s the founder of the clan had taken refuge in Zeitun after having killed a Turkish bully userer who had abducted an Armenian maiden. When he arrived at Zeitun and given haven he is reported to have said; Aah! Nor ashkharh yeka! If you search the internet you will find several entries of Norashkarian. BTW. That fruit GorGor is describing is known as loquat . http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/...tml#Description -------------------- In French it is: a nèfle . The tree is called: néflier eriobotrya japonica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-47 Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 How about Otuzbirian? ) Kurdoglian? Gozubuyukian? LOLLL at Otuzbirian. Kurdoghlian i've heard around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-47 Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Sheshbeshian? You gotta be joking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Arpa jan, voxchuyn!!! Shat uzhegher asacnert, 2 ora arten xndaluc merelem!!! lavner!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiledoug Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 (edited) my surname is Kizerian (one of many spellings) I was told it meant son of the tsar or son of ceaser an reportedly the son of ceaser and cleopatra. please enlighten me........ Edited June 2, 2008 by chiledoug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Kzir or Gzir is the village chief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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