Just want some comments on these rabiz singers...

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Sorry, I guess I am a traitor, I love Persian(Leila,Mahasti,Googoosh, etc.),Arabic(Amir Diab,Alabina,Khaled),Greek(Anna Vissi,George Dalaras) and yes,even Turkish music!(Adja Pekkan,Tarkan,Mustafa Sandal) My CD collection only has the following Armenian music:

 

Nune-recently discovered by me, I love her!

Djivan Gasparian-a must have

Adiss Hamandian-brings back childhood memories

Kef Time-a compilation of Kef music, some sung in Turkish

Andre Danik-again memories of childhood

Shourtchbar dance compilation-includes Harout Pamboukjian

Richard Hagopian, Best of Armenian folkmusic

Vigen-doesn't really count as he sings in Farsi!

Armenia!Armenia!-found this on sale at Borders, great folksongs

 

That's it folks! If you could recommend me some others, I will gladly experiment!

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Whoops! I forgot Armik, though flamenco, he is still Armenian!

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Modern Rabiz ~ estrada ~ POP

#1 Tata -

#2 Aramo -

#3 Forsh -

#4 Nune -

#5 Alla Levonyan -

#6 Lilith Karapetyan -

#7 Armik - Guitar

#8 Aram asatryan - Tsav@ dAnem

#9 Vahagn

#10 Armen Aloyan & Grisha Aloyan

#11 Hovik Khachaturyan

#12 WinWood ins. - Duduk Zurna Clarinet >>> Ararat & Albert & Armine & pedro Eustach & Saro DAnyalyan / Axtertsy Rubo / Yerevani Yerishik

#13 HArout Pambukjyan

#14 Harout Hagopyan

#15 Tigran Jamkochyan

#16 Karen Gevorgyan

#17 ARA Gevorgyan

#18 Nersik Ispiryan

#19 ANDY Rurrbani Azziz

#20 Sako

#21 Ararat Amadyan

#22 Vache / Adis / Maxsim / yev Aylen

#23 Hiko

#24

 

Jorovrdakan ~ POP -

Noriyr Mnatsakanyan

Jivan Gasparyan

Vache Hovsepyan

Levon Madadyan

Gurgen Dabaryan

MArutak

Ruben HAxverdyan

Artur Mshchyan

Karo Hayrapetyan

Karo Movsesyan - Guitar

levon qatrjan

Hovhanes Badalyan

Ruben Matevosyan

Qatrjian Levon

 

yev iylen

 

Tatul + uzbek + Nazo ~ chem lsum

Turkeren ? sorry Akanjners chem prrtsy et shan hachotsov.

Gayane jan cheyir asy te vor Haykakan channalna turkeren yerashtutyun tsuyst talis ? shat shnorhakal klinem .

Arabakan / Hunakan / Parskakan / Rusakan / Angleren Normal Hoyakap Yerashtutyun

 

 

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Well, here's my chart!

#1-Aram Asatrian

#2-Adiss Harmandian

#3-Ara Gevorgian

#4-Aida Sargsian

#5-Nune

#6-Armen Aloyan & Grisha Aloyan

#7-Maxim Panossian

#8-Nersig Isbirian

#9-Armen

#10-Samvel

#11-Tata

#12-Andy (in Armenian) sorry Farsisteve or Half breed, no farsi for me

#13-Shushan Petrosyan

 

Artists not prefered:

Tatoul-Grisha Aghakhanian

 

I hate turkish music, although I found the same Armenian song in turkish...

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Sorry Hayemyes, but Andy's Armenian songs are mediocre at best. Also have you really listened to Turkish music? Anyone with an open mind would have to admit that they have some pretty good music, politics aside. What Armenian song did you hear in Turkish? A lot of times it is the opposite, Turkish songs are covered in Armenian, such as the (very bad) Armenian cover of Tarkan's "Simarik."

 

As for Nune, she is top on my list, I haven't really seen her in concert, but I would love to. I have heard some on this forum criticize her vor shaat gyughatsia, lav, inch gelni vor? Shaat lava yerkoom, im gartsikov.

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Wow, this is my first topic posted and I don't know how to start. Excuse me if there's something wrong with my message.

Well, some may find this topic stupid, but I want some comments on the following Armenian artists and want to know what you guys think of each one of them. As everyone posts their comments I will post mine too.

Thanks and here's the list:

 

-Aram Asatrian

-Armen Aloyan

-Aida Sargsyan

-Tata

-Tatoul

 

P.S. You all know that "modern Armenian music" (rabiz) sounds more like turkish (especially Tatoul and thoses guys with the very "hasd" voice). And I would like to know if you guys think that it's better to listen to this music instead of turkish music (because I do).

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Add Uzbek in the list

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ok, here we go:

 

Aram Asatryan: as us hayastantsis would say, et vor mi gyuxitsa?..lol..but, when you're looking to dance, why not..

 

Armen Aloyan: who's that?..lol..seriously, I don't know any of his music...I may have heard it, but never knew the name..

 

Aida Sargsyan: I have her album. I like it for its spunk in the execution of traditional songs...but again, et vor mi gyuxitsa?

 

Tatoul: again, who's that?..and again, I may have heard it, but wouldn't know who sings a given song.

 

Tata: I have his music too. I love to dance, his music's rhythmic and serves the purpose.

 

Final comment on the current Armo music scene. Don't any of these people undergo any kind of musical training, for christ's sake!!

Meke chka vori dzayne mshakvats lini, vore vocali daser statsats lini. Yurakanchyur andz karoxa tsankutyun unenal yerkelu (nuynisk im nman anslux meke..lol), baits iskapes yerkelu shnork voch bolore unen. Execution is key; a poorly executed song is not worth listening to. Just some thoughts

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by way of P.S.

 

I missed your comment on the turkish music. Sometimes you'll get quality Turkish Rock, but I don't think it should be prioritized over any armenian music, even the poorly executed pieces! The other day I happened to notice that one of the Armo channels played a continuous 30 min segment of turkish music. It struck me as odd and inappropriate.

 

one more: uzbeke ova?..I'm sorry you guys, I'm not well versed in current armenian artists, if you want to call them that.

 

Gayane

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Hey Gayane!

Cool comments. I like them a lot. Well, personnally, Aram Asatrian is my favorite of them all.

About the "artist" who had some training, Armen Aloyan is one of them. He got opera training.

But one thing I must say is that even if you get training for 50 years and you don't know how to use your voice for good songs, you're not worth anything. Armen Aloyan is an example.

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oh what to say..lol

 

If I recall correctly, the turkish I heard on either 36 or 17 (not the main 55)

 

I've only recently started listening to armo music (it's kinda cute,everyone's so shocked..lol). My parents never pushed the music as part of my education in the armenian culture, with the exception of a few they admire: ruben matevosyan, hovanes badalian, etc. So to me, nothing I hear now compares with badalian's execution of say, "yes im anush hayastani"

 

Although I should mention something: there's a new kid on the block, so to speak. I heard a young guy by the name of Gagik something or the other performing with badalian the other day. Now that was worth hearing: beautiful. At least someone from the young generation is following in the footsteps of "old school" artists and trying to attain their level. On some level, it filled with hope. I wish I could remember his last name.

 

Steve jan, I say this for you. Yes, nune is good, but she's not exceptional, especially if you've heard other artists perform the same songs soooo much better. But, I'll also say this: when all is said and done, she's all I listen to nowadays in terms of armo music, especially her sayatnova songs.. )

 

I, too, like international music...leila is up there from the persians (for some reasons, i never liked andy)...alabina from the arabs, and spanish, oh so many..

 

p.s. steve, if you can find them, i'd recommend hovanes badalian and ruben matevosyan (you'll hear traditional armenian songs sung as they should be)

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Gayne jan portsy Gurgen Dabaryan

Jahel yerexa a Kartsem 10 13 tarekan

bayst te astvats im inch Sayat Nova a yerkum arachin angam lsety marmins pshaqarvets, kartsum em video casset ka mi hat xanutnerum portsy mi hat .

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Mersiner, mosjan ...i'll look

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Originally posted by Gayane:


I heard a young guy by the name of Gagik something or the other performing with badalian the other day. Now that was worth hearing: beautiful. At least someone from the young generation is following in the footsteps of "old school" artists and trying to attain their level. On some level, it filled with hope. I wish I could remember his last name.

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Gayane,

His name is Gagik Badalian, but from what I hear he's not related to Hovhannes Badalian. Gurgeb Dabaghyan is amazing also.

Aneta

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Here's my list:

 

1. Ruben Haxverdian

2. Artur Meschian

3. Forsh

4. Alla Levonyan

5. Hayko

6. Tata

7. Hayk Manarian

8. Nune

9. Sona Avagyan

10. Bella Darbinyan

11. Araxia Varderesyan

12. Lilit Pipoyan

 

That's all for now

 

Aneta

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Sulamita jan!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Gagik Badalian is Hovannes Badalian's grandson and Ruben Matevosian is Hovannes Badalian's daughter's husband (his "pesa"). Haven't you heard the "Horovel"that this great trio sing together?

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Originally posted by hayemyes:
Sulamita jan!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Gagik Badalian is Hovannes Badalian's grandson and Ruben Matevosian is Hovannes Badalian's daughter's husband (his "pesa"). Haven't you heard the "Horovel"that this great trio sing together?

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As far as I know you are wrong.

I have heard the trio performing "Horovel" but that means nothing.

Aneta

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Originally posted by Half Breed:
My CD collection only has the following Armenian music:

Nune-recently discovered by me, I love her!

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Me too! The only interesting Armenian thing going on (that I've heard). Do you have her first one? Musically it's nowhere near her other three, but the first one is a must have for Hov Arek--classic Gomidas and my favorite Nune track.

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Kef Time-a compilation of Kef music, some sung in Turkish

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Is this the Richard Hagopian Kef Time CD on Traditional Crossroads? If so, that album/CD is the Meet The Beatles of kef time music.

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Richard Hagopian, Best of Armenian folkmusic

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I worship him, but for some reason this one isn't very good. I highly recommend his CD Armenian Music Through The Ages on Smithsonian Folkways. And the chicken kebab with pilaf at his Visalia deli.

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Armenia!Armenia!-found this on sale at Borders, great folksongs

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That is Hachig Kazarian's LP. He is the clarinet player in Hagopian's Kef Time band. Great cover, by the way.

Man, you have good taste! My kind of Armenian music.

I would recommend the following:

John Bilezikjian's Tapestry Of The Dance, Armenian Connection and/or Magic CDs. I don't think any are available in stores. Just from him or maybe through ARPMUSIC.com. I'd burn you copies but John would hang me!

Also, most everything on Harold Hagopian's(son of Richard)Traditional Crossroads label is excellent. Paricularly noteworthy are:

--The Voice of Komitas Vardapet--recordings made by the legend himself in 1912
--Armenians On 8th Avenue (NY 1940's legends)
--Women of Istanbul
--Istanbul 1925

The 4 above are old recordings. Although they were transfered using state of the art equip, the sonic quality is not pristine. I actually like the crackles. One very noteworthy aspect are the liner notes/booklet that accompany each Trad Crsrd CD--those alone are worth the price.

For anybody with a no-Turkish-music predjudice:
1) Many of the artists on the above CDs are Armenian (often under pseudonyms)
2) Musicians are seldom in-line with a government and are frequently anti-government

Also, the Greek style of Rembetica will appeal to those that like Western Armenian/Anatolian folk music.

Much of this stuff can be found or tasted at
http://www.arpmusic.com/


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Sulamita your taste in music is very similar to mine. Ive tried to listen to Turkish but it sounds like crap. Even though I listen mostly to Trance I like some Armenian such as Rouben Hakhverdian-1, Artur Meschian-2, Hayko-3, Aram-4(listen to Aram 2000 track 1 called Hayer it is very nice) Tata-5. Also some people here write about Tatoul. First of all he is a Kurd. Second of all he cant sing. His voice sounds like a cat screaming.

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I'm not a big fan of Akhtamar Records, but they released a new CD called "Siroum em" by Khachik Karadanian. Narek.com categorized it under rabiz, but it is a very nice popular album.

Ayt badanin marzvadz tsayn ouni angasgadz.

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A question for Mosjan?

 

Can you please tell us what are the top 10 Armenian CDs sold in 2000. You might have more knowledge of this than any of us

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#1 Tata

#2 Nune

#3 Rabiz / Grisha Araqanyan /

#4 Hiko

#5 Aram & Artash Asatryan

#6 Alla - Sparapet - Hayastan

#7 Nersik Ispiryan

#8 Ara Gevorgyan

#9 Ayo - Mix

#10 Harout Pambukjyan - Mix

#11 - Duduk - Jivan Gasparyan - Ararat petrosyan - Albert Vardanyan - M@gel - Benik nersisyan -

 

 

brb.

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Mike, if we're presumptuous enough to consider ourselves "educated, cultured people" , then yes, by all means, we should avoid all of that...lol...but I think you'll agree pop music's hard to avoid, especially when you're Armenian!!! Lord knows I myself am guilty of NOT practicing what I preach...lol

 

Gayane

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I like pop music (actually all kinds of music for that matter), but the US charts include stuff like DMX, Eminem, Britney Spears, NSync, Jay-Z, etc. So some of the Armenian Top CDs must include groups of that low caliber. Obviously, popular does not imply good.

 

I'm the last one who thinks I have cultured taste in anything. I consider myself an American junk culture expert. Brady Bunch or Three Stooges, anyone?

 

Now, point me to the Armenian Doris Day and I'll be in music heaven.

 

 

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Barev Mike.

 

Mike jan I rather listen to Gurgen Dabaghyan (the 12 year old Armenian kid)

or Edward Darbinyan performing Sayat Nova, Sheram, Gusan Ashot, then listening to MOST of the Armenian POP singers.

 

Remember POP or Popular Music is only temporary; it is not hear to stay.

It has been changed many times over; some of these songs are something new to us, some or just an old Armenian song performed in a new stile.

 

> A question for Mosjan?

Can you please tell us what is the top 10 Armenian CDs sold in 2000? You might have more knowledge of this than any of us <<

The answer to ALPHAS question was based on what is SOLD most in Armenian Video & music stores or on the Internet.

Tata & Nune are the TOP Armenian POP singers at this time; I do not think any one can debate that. The numbers speak for them self’s. After all a cost of audio master of Tata or Nune costs lethal over $70.000 US.

Just 4 month a go GTAK Video has cam in position of TATA’s single song that has cost him over $30.000. BTW the single will be for seal in next 2 weeks.

Us for Harout Pambukjyan J I think he gat caught in “anti Rabiz “ Crossfire, I think no matter what happens Harout is Harout, one of the only Armenian Singers who only sings Armenian, and who is devoted to Armenian MUSIC.

The Cost for Harout Pambukjyan new album was over $65.000, it wil be for seal in next 2 to 4 month , I do not think that any businessman will spend this cind of $$$$ to invest something that is not popular or no one likes .

 

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