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Plural Formation In Armenian


nairi

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Also, according to Vaux's article, WA tends to double plurals anyway, like mardikner. So adding a productive plural suffix (-er/-ner) to an extinct plural suffix (q) shouldn't be of much concern to you! :P :)

 

LOL! ;)

 

And, I'm sorry, I knew that 'holovum' was the incorrect term to use, but it was late and I couldn't think of either the English or Armenian word for it. Actually, I still can't!

 

And no, it wasn't a typo. In WA, it's ոտնլուայ. Interesting!

 

Sia: And yet the 'n' rears its head again in dasnamyag, dasn@meg, etc. ;) ..and even yotnerrort, ootnerrort, innerrort, dasnerrort.

 

Do EA speakers not say yot@, oot@, in@, das@?

 

I've always thought of the dropping of the Krapar 'n' as not so much a full dropping, but a halfway dropping when it's replaced by "@" -- by saying @, we're going halfway towards pronouncing it the Krapar way, just omitting the final sound that is a 'n' -- did anyone get that?? lol ex: das@ instead of das@n...

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I don't know if that is historically correct, but it makes sense to me.

In krapar, did those words end with 'n' i.e. "vodn?'

 

I'm wondering whether all nouns ended in /n/.. Classical Armenian must have had its own reasons to form words in certain ways..

 

(nairi, I just found out that "sharzhoum" - movement - in krapar is "sharzhoumn" - how do you say it in Esatern Armenian?)

 

Same as WA: sharzhum.

 

LOL! ;)

 

And, I'm sorry, I knew that 'holovum' was the incorrect term to use, but it was late and I couldn't think of either the English or Armenian word for it. Actually, I still can't!

 

What function does -n have? If you can answer this, we can come up with a terms for it :)

 

Do EA speakers not say yot@, oot@, in@, das@?

 

mek, yerku, yereq, chors, hing, vec, yot, ut, in@, tas(@).

 

I've always thought of the dropping of the Krapar 'n' as not so much a full dropping, but a halfway dropping when it's replaced by "@" -- by saying @, we're going halfway towards pronouncing it the Krapar way, just omitting the final sound that is a 'n' -- did anyone get that?? lol ex: das@ instead of das@n...
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Sounds like French :) Where they stopped pronouncing the /n/ in "bon", and instead nasalized the /o/. Funnily /n/ returns in the feminine /bonne/.

 

Btw, you guys do realize that slowly but surely you're all turning into linguists! :) (i.e. thinking about what, why and how you're using language.)

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I'm wondering whether all nouns ended in /n/.. Classical Armenian must have had its own reasons to form words in certain ways..

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I'm not sure what you mean; but, not "all nouns ended in /n/..[in] Classical Armenian."

You probably mean something else!

 

 

 

Sounds like French :) Where they stopped pronouncing the /n/ in "bon", and instead nasalized the /o/. Funnily /n/ returns in the feminine /bonne/.

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That is the case of "official" French. In some regions - such as the South of France - the "n" is not silent.

(By the way, the Southern accent is almost "chanted," but charming! I love how they speak! :))

 

 

 

 

Btw, you guys do realize that slowly but surely you're all turning into linguists! :) (i.e. thinking about what, why and how you're using language.)

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I've always had a fascination for words and "language games" - as defined/used by Wittgenstein, Lyotard, Austin and Searle (their definitions are not necessarily identical.)

http://www.geocities.com/dot_rob/essays/essay5.html

http://www.california.com/~rathbone/word.htm

 

I also appreciate the work of pioneers such as Benjamin Lee Whorf (Anthropolinguistics,) Edward Sapir ((Anthropolinguistics,) Frege(Logic/Semantics) and Pierce(Semiotics.)

 

Last Tuesday, I came across an enchanting creature :) reading "Cognitive Poetics: An Introduction" by Peter Stockwell (You can read the introduction to the book here )

I did not know what "Cognitive Poetics" was, so I did a quick search. During my search, I came across the following site that may be of interest:

http://www.stanford.edu/group/SHR/4-1/text/toc.html

I did have the time to properly read the articles.

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