Nakharar Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 (edited) Edited November 12, 2004 by Nakharar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hytga Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 looooooool. that's really funny. i never thought i'd lough on a table of data Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakharar Posted November 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 No wonder Dubya feels so much at home in Texas. Texas is an equal opportunity state for people like him. Those brainiacs in Connecticut wouldn't let him survive. Afterall he has a family to feed and bills to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abcdefghijkl Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 (edited) Thanks Nakharar. That was a literally "graphic" depiction of why democracy cannot succeed without education. With an uneducated electorate, democracy merely replaces the rule of the tyrant with the rule of the mob. Edited November 12, 2004 by abcdefghijkl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 I don't know if I should laugh or cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Do you all honestly feel that IQ has any actual bearing in the election results? I don't suppose it could be coincidental? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Would people vote for the man who lost the most jobs since the Great Depression if they could think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Would people vote for the man who lost the most jobs since the Great Depression if they could think? style_images/master/snapback.png I don't think that has anything to do with it... and besides that sort of comparison the great depression vs. 2002-2004 economy - is unjust at best (with differing populations, demographics and an entirely different workforce) it's apples and oranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abcdefghijkl Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 If the results were listed by number of handguns owned, or percentage of population who believe they can talk to God, or percentage of population who married their cousins, or number of cows per head of population, then the results would probably be reversed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 .... or number of cows per head of population,.... style_images/master/snapback.png That's prbably more relevant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 All true, however look at it from the brighter side. Previously, when everybody was employed, America had the reputation of a “labor camp”. Right now we have time to chat, visit Internet forums and basically enjoy our free time. Another positive trend is that in the last couple of weeks, I received 3 inquiries from business people (note that these were not high tech companies) about the cost of moving their business in Eastern Europe. Here in Texas, the more incompetent, the more minority, the more ala-Bush you are the better chances you have to find a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 I don't think that has anything to do with it... and besides that sort of comparison the great depression vs. 2002-2004 economy - is unjust at best (with differing populations, demographics and an entirely different workforce) it's apples and oranges. style_images/master/snapback.png Does Clinton making the economy grow and Bush demolishing it have anything to do with it? Don't tell me all those expensive wars were necessary. I think there are two kind of people who vote for Bush: very wealthy ones and the lower half of that table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakharar Posted November 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 I don't think that has anything to do with it... and besides that sort of comparison the great depression vs. 2002-2004 economy - is unjust at best (with differing populations, demographics and an entirely different workforce) it's apples and oranges. style_images/master/snapback.png Does Clinton making the economy grow and Bush demolishing it have anything to do with it? Don't tell me all those expensive wars were necessary. I think there are two kind of people who vote for Bush: very wealthy ones and the lower half of that table style_images/master/snapback.png I don't think that the reason is as simple as that. I don't think it has to do with the polarization of the American population as well. The Evangelical Americans came out to vote as they had never before. Part of it has to do with their increasing numbers, but most importantly it has to do with their fear for their children's future and the way the country is headed (Gay marriages, excessive secularism, internet porn, etc.) When you play on these fears for better or for worse there is no way that anyone else except G.W. Bush could win. Unfortunately the tragic thing is that they are unwittingly contributing to a vicious cycle whose price will be paid by us all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Does Clinton making the economy grow and Bush demolishing it have anything to do with it? Don't tell me all those expensive wars were necessary. I think there are two kind of people who vote for Bush: very wealthy ones and the lower half of that table I think you have a very simplistic method of looking at big, complex picture. I can assure you that many amongst the 'lower half of the table' as you put it, also voted for Kerry. Though it may seem so upon an initial glance, I doubt that the election results are broken down entirely upon lines of intellectual capacity/education level of the voters. There are many, many more relevant issues that had greater impact upon the population than your (naive) premise that the dumb voted Bush and the semi-smart voted Kerry. These include issues dealing with religion, "family values" , xenaphobia, perceptions of security as well as economic and social programs. It's obvious to me that the lines were split pretty evenly... and this over several areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 I hadn't seen Nak's response before I posted - but his is essentially along the same lines as mine.... sorry to be redundant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 The most relevant of all factors for Bush's re-election, was the FEAR-FACTOR! Half of the Americans are scared to death, and in that respect Bush's campaign was more efficient. The message was simple. If you don't elect me, terrorists will take over. Of all negative traits that characterize Americans, there is one that was evidenced in the early 1920's by two very prominent Russian writers - Ilya Ilf and Eugenie Petroff. Upon their arrival from a trip to US, a journalist asked them what were their impressions of USA. Their response was "Strana napuganiuh idiotov" Translation: Country of scared to death idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakharar Posted November 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 The Americans are nation of children. They want someone who can reassure them, give them comfort and lead them by the hand. What better way is there to mould and prod a people by instilling them with fear? I forgot to add this in my previous post but the underlying motive is that someone wants to shield them from the unpleasant truths of this world by trying to shape that world in their own image. Hence globalization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 The most relevant of all factors for Bush's re-election, was the FEAR-FACTOR! indeed, first it was fear of the indians, then blacks, then red (commies) and now muslims.... what really struck me looking at the table, is the HUGE difference in IQ between the 'smartest' state Conneticut (113) and the 'dumbest' Mississippi (85). Thats a difference in average of almost 30 points! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 come to think of it, this constant fear-mongering can be classified as a form of oppresion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 wow CA is 101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Take it always from the positive (posi-tive ) side. Those of us, who reside in dumb states, know pretty well that girls in these states are better in the bed than catlike intellectuals from the North! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Take it always from the positive (posi-tive ) side. Those of us, who reside in dumb states, know pretty well that girls in these states are better in the bed than catlike intellectuals from the North! style_images/master/snapback.png hmm - hima inch es asum ??? dzer mot ganq ??? Azat lsum es ??? inch a asum ?? > girls in these states are better <<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Hrametzek, miain te Azat@ chi morana Hovhaness Kaletzogh - sev etiket! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Voski Eticet lini chi lini ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Take it always from the positive (posi-tive ) side. Those of us, who reside in dumb states, know pretty well that girls in these states are better in the bed than catlike intellectuals from the North! style_images/master/snapback.png This is 100% true. I have never met any ugly blonds in Texas. I think by law they kill the ugly baby girls. I also spent some time in Mississippi for work and was shocked they the average iq was 85. Wow. are you guys sure someone did not transpose those numbers. it probably is 58. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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