Arpa Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Ak/ag/akn/agn, it does mean several things if somehow connected. The first is eye, even if we use ach/achq the ak root is evident in words like aknots(eyeglass), akanavo(famous/eye-catching). The second is spring. Mind you the Turks as well as the Arabs use their corresponding words in both senses, goez in the former case and 'ayn in the latter. The third sense is gem. It took me a while to realize this as I was reading some biographies and it was mentionned that they were born into a family of aknagorts/agnavajar. My first thought was that they were oculists or optometrists. It turns out it is meant "gemologists/jewelers" as ag/ak also means gem in Armenian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Matanus kapuyt ak@, Vay lele, varay le, Inch gorts uni zer bak@, Hopay zarke u qele. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefghij Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Eyes, Springs, Gemstones - all three sparkle. Is that the common connection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abcdefghijkl Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 The source of the Egin spring. This was taken in the late summer, when the water flow was low. (Click onto the little picture to get the bigger version) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abcdefghijkl Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 The water from the spring cascades down a channel that runs through the middle of the town. The flow of water gets less and less the further down it gets since it is diverted off through numerous pipes and side-channels. After leaving the town the remaining water is now used to feed a fish farm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted November 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 (edited) Ak/ag/akn/agn, it does mean several things if somehow connected. The first is eye, even if we use ach/achq the ak root is evident in words like aknots(eyeglass), akanavo(famous/eye-catching). The second is spring. Mind you the Turks as well as the Arabs use their corresponding words in both senses, goez in the former case and 'ayn in the latter. The third sense is gem. It took me a while to realize this as I was reading some biographies and it was mentionned that they were born into a family of aknagorts/agnavajar. My first thought was that they were oculists or optometrists. It turns out it is meant "gemologists/jewelers" as ag/ak also means gem in Armenian. style_images/master/snapback.png Most likely named such after the Aknaghbyur (curiously another redundant name as ag/akn means spring and so does aghbyur) river through it.When I said the above in another thread I may have mispoken. It still stays that "ak" means eye and "aghbyur" means spring/fountain. What in fact "ak-n-aghbyur" means is the "eye of the fountain/spring". Even in the other languages that I cited, i.e. "goez" in Turkish and "'ayn" in Arabic it still alludes to the "eye" of the fountain. They have specific terms for the actual spring/fountain. I will skip them, but it seems people have always distinguished between the actual spring and the hole that the spring water flows. Ajarian states that the root word for "ak", eye does in fact mean "hole", he goes as far as saying that even the hole dug for burial is at times referred to as "ak" (gerezmani). Also consider "akos", furrow, the hole left by the plow. We will leave here.... And call on all the stinking skhtor/glukh/garlic heads, otherwise known as khashnarats "khash glukhs". Searching for "aknaghbyur" look what I found for you! Who are the "khashglukhs"? MosJan? Azat? Harut? Edward? Anymore garlic-heads? We will banish all of you to Khash-tarak. Hey!! Wait a minute!! What about me!! Leave some khash for me too!! :) T Edited November 9, 2004 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abcdefghijkl Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Who are the "khashglukhs"? MosJan? Azat? Harut? Edward? Anymore garlic-heads? We will banish all of you to Khash-tarak. style_images/master/snapback.png Nice one Arpa! Or maybe the rest of us should move to Nor Arshakavan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 (edited) One mailing list I am a member of cites the name of Egin (with the flex over the g), currently Kemaliye, as Agn, with 7 districts(?), 12 churches, and 12,000 Armenians under the jurisdiction of the Armenian Patriarchate, the source being "Hayots Yegeghetsi" (1911) by a certain Patriarch Ormanian. (An additional 200 Protestants are mentioned.) The fountain pictures provided in the first few posts are from Egin, btw. Edited January 25, 2005 by Stormig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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