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Mard -

 

"Man" in Armenian.

 

Apparently it has some use in Farsi as well -

 

Within the family, some such men are described as na-mard (not-men).

 

(Source: http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/IES/iran.html )

 

 

OK. So far so good.

 

This latter, negated form exists in Turkish, too, though with a nuance.

 

http://seslisozluk.com/?word=namert

 

1. cowardly.

2. despicable.

3. vile.

4. low.

5. base.

6. contemptible.

7. craven.

8. dastardly.

 

and then there is "mert"

 

http://seslisozluk.com/?word=mert

 

1. brave.

2. manly.

3. red-blooded.

4. manful.

5. chivalrous.

6. courageous.

7. courageous yiğit.

8. dependable.

9. trustworthy.

10. reliable.

11. manful.

 

In fact, the word "mert" is also a Turkish male personal name, Mert.

 

So what's up with that? Any romantic stories?

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i don't know if they are connected or not, but...

 

mard, man in armenian, is spelled մարդ [mard], though pronounced somewhere between [mard] and [marth] in both EA and WA.

however, Sayat-Nova spelled namard նամարթ [namarth]

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i don't know if they are connected or not, but...

 

mard, man in armenian, is spelled մարդ [mard], though pronounced somewhere between [mard] and [marth] in both EA and WA.

however, Sayat-Nova spelled namard նամարթ [namarth]

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Mard is a native Armenian word from hndevopakan nakhalezu(protoIE) "mrto" which in turn is from the PIE "mer" to mean death "merel/mernil" In fact the literal meaning of "mard" is" mortal/mahkanatsu". If that were the case then we had to spell the word as "mart", the reason we spell it as "mard" is a roundabout story since in the Pahlavi it is "murd/merd".

 

BTW, Haruth, we're gonna murder your name yet, first it Yarut and now... I notice that you transliterate "tho" the 9th letter of the Ayb Ben Gim as "th". Is this because of my many sermons? Does this mean that we have to pronounce the letter tho as th as it was originally intended to be the counterpart of the Greek Theta? Did Armenians at one time have the diphthong of TH? Shall we start pronouncing the word for king as "thagavor"? In fact "thag" is from the Arabic "thaj".

Let's see how many other "tho" words are in fact intended to be pronounced as such. How is "thargman" from the Arabic "tharjuman"?

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mard

 

Modern Persian mard “man”

Middle Pers. mard, mart

Old Pers. martiya

Avestan mareta, other forms: maša, mašya, all from root mar- “to die”

cognate with Sanskrit marta, martya, marya, Greek mortos

IE root *mortos, “mortal, man”

The Persian mardom also belongs to this group.

 

 

zan

 

Persian zan “woman, wife”

MP zan, žan

Avestan genâ, ghenâ “woman, wife”

Sanskrit janih “wife”, gana “wife of a god, goddess”

Greek gyne “woman, wife” (as in gynecology)

IE root *gwen- “woman, wife”

The Persian kaniz, English queen, Armenian kin, and Russian ženšina, from Old Slav žena, belong to this family.

 

 

man

 

English “human being, male person”

Old High German man

Middle Dutch man

Sanskrit manus “man, mankind; the primordial father of the human race”

Avestan Manuš « a legendary hero », Manuš.cithra « from the race of Manuš ».

In Iranian mythology: Manucehr, son of Iraj

German Mannus « German’s ancestor according to Tacitus »

Also Alemanni "a group of Germanic tribes that settled in Alsace and nearby areas during the fourth century a.d. and were defeated by the Franks in 496", possibly from Germanic *Ala-manniz, tribal name (< “all men”: *ala-, all »)

Latin Manius « plebian hero of ancient Rome »

Phrygian Mânés

The German Mensch, Russian mužik « peasant », from muž « man » all belong to this family.

 

 

homo

 

homo in Latin « earthly being » used in e.g. homo sapiens or in Eng. homicide, humble, humus, exhume

Latin humus “earth”

Greek khthôn “earth”, khamai “on the ground”

Sanskrit ksam “earth”

Avestan zam “earth”

Persian zami, zamin “earth, land”

IE root *dhghem- « earth »

 

 

http://www.iranianlanguages.com/forum/view...&highlight=mard

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Thanks, everyone. BTW...

 

Mard is a native Armenian word from hndevopakan nakhalezu(protoIE)
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If nakh-a-lezu means proto-language, what does nakharar mean?

 

Also...

 

Let's see how many other "tho" words  are in fact intended to be pronounced as such. How is "thargman" from the Arabic "tharjuman"?

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http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=1633

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Thanks, everyone. BTW...

If nakh-a-lezu means proto-language, what does nakharar mean?

 

Also...

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=1633

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Dear Potorik/Mrrik

You may have ignored this;

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?act=Search&C...hlite=tharjuman

 

And forgotten this;

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?act=Search&C...ghlite=dragoman

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That's beyond me now. You have to ask our linguist Arpa

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Iran01 can corroborate this.

 

Nakharar and nahapet are both based on the Iranian "nafa" which literally means "port" (bord) , belly button, placenta and navel. One wonders if the English "navel" is also based on the root word of "nafa".

Nakharar has evloved to mean aristocracy, princedom while "nahapet" is forebear/ancestor. The latter, sometimes "nakhpet" is the counterpart of the Iranian "nafapati".

 

Hey Nakharar! Control yourself!

 

Nakharar has not always been a favorite word specially when the "nakharars" were feuding among themselves while the country was being ravaged by foreign "wolves". It does not seem much has changed even now.

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Iran01 can corroborate this.

 

Nakharar and nahapet are both based on the Iranian "nafa" which literally means "port" (bord) , belly button, placenta and navel. One wonders if the English "navel" is also based on the root word of "nafa".

Nakharar has evloved to mean aristocracy, princedom while "nahapet" is forebear/ancestor. The latter, sometimes "nakhpet" is the counterpart of the Iranian "nafapati".

 

Hey Nakharar! Control yourself!

 

Nakharar has not always been a favorite word specially when the "nakharars" were feuding among themselves while the country was being ravaged by foreign "wolves". It does not seem much has changed even now.

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Yes dear Arpa

in New Persian we still use nâf for navel.

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