skhara Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 I am guessing that you are more conservative than I am. More than likely. I'm not saying that gay couples should marry in churches, however they need to be protected by the same laws that heterosexual couples are protected by. We'll have to agree to disagree on this. Second of all, you can't be pro Bush just because he sent troops to Iraq. This war is bringing nothing but devestation to thousands of families that are loosing their loved ones, for no reason. I'm not pro-Bush and I am strongly opposed to the Iraq war. I didn't mean to give the impression that I'm pro-Bush. It is just a guarantee though if Kerry is elected, it will be Clinton all over again. He will bring back such creatures as Wesly Clark and Richard Holbrooke. And, what guarantee you have that he will not turn around and start bombing some Christian country few years from now? I don't. He hasn't done it yet though. Besides, things going further and further down the shiter in Iraq, I don't think any attention will be diverted from there any time soon. Also, there is danger that if Kerry is elected, the Euracracts will jump onboard the "rebuilding" process in Iraq, thus legitimising the illegitimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Here are Alexander Hamilton's words on electoral college. ------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.multied.com/elections/Electoralcollgewhy.html "It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice. A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations. It was also peculiarly desirable to afford as little opportunity as possible to tumult and disorder. This evil was not least to be dreaded in the election of a magistrate, who was to have so important an agency in the administration of the government as the President of the United States. But the precautions which have been so happily concerted in the system under consideration, promise an effectual security against this mischief." --------------------------------------------------------------------- Who can be a greater authority on the why's of U.S. electoral system than Hamilton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 One think positive for me because of Bush though... I just checked now, the Canadian dollar worth 0.81 US $. Maybe it's time to me to buy few stuff from eBay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 One think positive for me because of Bush though... I just checked now, the Canadian dollar worth 0.81 US $. Maybe it's time to me to buy few stuff from eBay. style_images/master/snapback.png ...and the $ goes further down against the Euro! I've read somewhere that there was social unrest in New York in mid 70's when the oil prices went up with 5%. The oil prices at present went up 20-30% and people sheeplesly continue to follow Bushy. Such socialization of the public opinion in mere 30 years? Boy, CNN is doing great job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 (edited) ...and the $ goes further down against the Euro! style_images/master/snapback.png But the $ depreciacion also makes EU buy more U.S. goods. Edited October 23, 2004 by Armen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Also, there is danger that if Kerry is elected, the Euracracts will jump onboard the "rebuilding" process in Iraq, thus legitimising the illegitimate. style_images/master/snapback.png The Iraqi people who suffered tremendously would look at it more positively. In their minds the question is not weather Iraqi war was legitimate or not but rather a choice between chaotic anarchistic environments verses some kind of cohesive entity called Iraq. We are passed discussing the merits of the invasion since the vase has been broken already. Elect Bush and expect military bases in Azerbaijan and Turkish entrenchments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Elect Bush and expect military bases in Azerbaijan and Turkish entrenchments. style_images/master/snapback.png Armat, that is more likely to happen in case of Kerry. During the last debate he made it clear that his top targets are going to be Iran and Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhara Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 (edited) Elect Bush and expect military bases in Azerbaijan and Turkish entrenchments. Are you sure you want get the same thing with Kerry. I said it before and I'll say it again. US policy is US policy no matter who is at the helm. They pushed any kind of Russian influence out of the Balkans under the Democrats. The Caucasus is another point of interest. Whether it is Bush or Kerry, they have an interest in Azerbaijan. And if US foreign policy demands US bases in Azerbaijan, that is the policy that Kerry's administration will follow. They are trying to chase Russia out of the Caucasus. That will be the intent of both administrations. Edited October 23, 2004 by skhara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Are you sure you want get the same thing with Kerry. I said it before and I'll say it again. US policy is US policy no matter who is at the helm. They pushed any kind of Russian influence out of the Balkans under the Democrats. The Caucasus is another point of interest. Whether it is Bush or Kerry, they have an interest in Azerbaijan. And if US foreign policy demands US bases in Azerbaijan, that is the policy that Kerry's administration will follow. They are trying to chase Russia out of the Caucasus. That will be the intent of both administrations. style_images/master/snapback.png We already know who is pushing the engine beyond Bush, Neo-cons who were the true architects of Iraqi invasion. There over all goals is totally dominating any country, which could possible, is a thread to Israel. While I don’t know exactly what Kerry would do I do know that Neo-cons are predominantly conservative republicans and less likely to have kind of influence on Kerry as they have on Bush, which resembles puppet, pushed by strings. The point is do you want to elect an already well-established neo-con President or one that has a possibility of being different in a positive way. Foreign policy goals and objectives are not written on stone, they do change and Kerry’s approach is fundamentally different in Iraq then Bush’s. If Kerry is elected expect more cooperation from Europe and less tension in the region, which does have a ripple effect, thought out the region including Armenia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhara Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 If Kerry is elected expect more cooperation from Europe and less tension in the region, which does have a ripple effect, thought out the region including Armenia. Actually, more cooperation from Europe is exactly what I'm worried about. That means pressure will be diminished in Iraq on the US, giving Kerry more opportunity to concentrate on the Balkans and the Caucasus. And the plan there isn't to stabilise anything. Whatever happens in the election, the inside group will still win. They have their two-party dictatorship which is essentially two sides of the same coin. This election crap is not big news to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Whatever happens in the election, the inside group will still win. They have their two-party dictatorship which is essentially two sides of the same coin. This election crap is not big news to me. style_images/master/snapback.png Governance throughout the centuries hadn't change much. The history of political thought has been just ways and means of justifying certain ideas and promoting them through a real or imaginary political system. Well, yes-political systems differ from one another, but in essence there is no much difference. In the Soviet system the leading role of the Communist party was constitutionally affirmed and everything in the life of an individual who was member of the communist society was touched, shaped and influenced by his/her relationship with the Party. Now, have a different look and compare the Communist party with the Banking system in America. In USA, you cannot buy a decent car without the Bank, you cannot buy a house without the Bank, and you cannot do anything without the Bank. The Bank says if you are good boy or girl, the Bank says if you are trustworthy or not. The Bank knows everything about you; your income, your purchasing habits, your credit, your phone numbers, your girlfriend. The Bank holds part of your life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 (edited) Notice all in bold are republicans!!!Go ahead elect more fken Jews to control our lives! The Israeli government, through AIPAC, controls the neocons in the Pentagon, mostly a bunch of smart and scheming Jews like Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith and Harold Rhode. The brainy and conniving Jewish neocons, in-turn, influence the less intelligent, but hawkish likes of Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, who in turn control that dufus Bush. In this way, the Jews have completely co-opted American foreign policy, sidelining the Arabist State Department, and launched the war in Iraq in order to protect Israel from the madman Saddam. Don't laugh. While the above twaddle was once the preserve of conspiracy nuts on the Internet, the investigation of AIPAC has now made such inane speculations the preserve of some of the world's most prestigious news agencies. Here, for example, is how the BBC reported the AIPAC news on its website. Let's see if you can connect the dots: The Israeli government has strongly denied reports that a senior U.S. defense department official spied for Israel ... The suspected spy is said to have links to Douglas Feith, a key adviser to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. Mr. Feith, along with Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, is believed to have played a key role in planning the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003. The spy who works for Israel works for Feith who, along with Wolfowitz, engineered the American entry into Iraq. There is much more but you get the picture.I associate Republican=Zionism.Kerry in the end is the true lesser evil. Edited October 24, 2004 by Armat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 So Kerry won't have his quota for Jews in his cabinet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dianjan Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 (edited) I'm not pro-Bush and I am strongly opposed to the Iraq war. I didn't mean to give the impression that I'm pro-Bush. It is just a guarantee though if Kerry is elected, it will be Clinton all over again. He will bring back such creatures as Wesly Clark and Richard Holbrooke. I don't. He hasn't done it yet though. Besides, things going further and further down the shiter in Iraq, I don't think any attention will be diverted from there any time soon. Also, there is danger that if Kerry is elected, the Euracracts will jump onboard the "rebuilding" process in Iraq, thus legitimising the illegitimate. style_images/master/snapback.png I agree with you regarding the war. I am very opposed to war also. Also, let me just say that I don't think that Kerry is a great candidate to be the president of US. However, he's not Bush, and unfortunatelly that'll have to do this election. I'm picking the lesser of two evils. If Kerry gets elected, I don't think that Europe will jump onboard with Iraq war, and I'm hoping that Kerry will pull the troops out of Iraq sooner then later. If Bush will stay in the office, I'm positive that instead of pulling troops out, he will send more troops and this war will not be over for a very long time. Edited October 24, 2004 by dianjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhara Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Notice all in bold are republicans!!!Go ahead elect more fken Jews to control our lives! The Israeli government, through AIPAC, controls the neocons in the Pentagon, mostly a bunch of smart and scheming Jews like Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith and Harold Rhode. The brainy and conniving Jewish neocons, in-turn, influence the less intelligent, but hawkish likes of Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, who in turn control that dufus Bush. In this way, the Jews have completely co-opted American foreign policy, sidelining the Arabist State Department, and launched the war in Iraq in order to protect Israel from the madman Saddam. Don't laugh. While the above twaddle was once the preserve of conspiracy nuts on the Internet, the investigation of AIPAC has now made such inane speculations the preserve of some of the world's most prestigious news agencies. Here, for example, is how the BBC reported the AIPAC news on its website. Let's see if you can connect the dots: The Israeli government has strongly denied reports that a senior U.S. defense department official spied for Israel ... The suspected spy is said to have links to Douglas Feith, a key adviser to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. Mr. Feith, along with Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, is believed to have played a key role in planning the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003. The spy who works for Israel works for Feith who, along with Wolfowitz, engineered the American entry into Iraq. There is much more but you get the picture.I associate Republican=Zionism.Kerry in the end is the true lesser evil. style_images/master/snapback.png Oh I see what you are concerned about here. Trust me, puting Kerry in office will not get these fken Jews out of yours or any one elses life. Exhibit A is the previous cabinet. Also, these neo-cons are anything but conservatives. They follow the globalist neo-liberal protocol. So Kerry won't have his quota for Jews in his cabinet? Well said. Chauvanist supremacist Jews who are loose with their tounge will boast about how every president since Widrow Wilson has been their man. In other words Jew approved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakharar Posted October 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Unlike the Clinton administration there are no Jews in Bush's cabinet. The undersecretaries in the Pentagon were there before his term. Neither are there ex-Jewish secretaries such as Nobright and Cohen. I agree with you about Richard Holbrook, but I don't know what is so objectionable about Wes Clark. Afterall Kerry's ancestors are Bohemian Jews as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Unlike the Clinton administration there are no Jews in Bush's cabinet. The undersecretaries in the Pentagon were there before his term. Neither are there ex-Jewish secretaries such as Nobright and Cohen. I agree with you about Richard Holbrook, but I don't know what is so objectionable about Wes Clark. Afterall Kerry's ancestors are Bohemian Jews as well. style_images/master/snapback.png To put it in broad terms democrats support the liberal Jews in Israel which traditionally were more willing to forge peace with Palestinians then Republicans who support right wing Sharon. It is true that Jews hijacked both parties but 70% of Jewish voters vote democrat and support two state solutions to Israeli conflict whereas Republicans are supported by more rigid Zionist elements, which rather see Palestinians totally be capitulated. You figure in four years Bush has done nothing about Palestinian issues essentially letting Sharon do anything he wants. In reality republican neo-cons like Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith and Harold Rhode believe that preemptive strikes and global control are what our foreign policy should be and Iraq is a clear example. What this means that if Neo-Cons decide to eliminate Karabagh all together because it is an obstacle to get the oil out then what would stop them from exercising same principles of preemptive strikes. It is highly likely that Azeris could carry out these prementives strikes with the help of US bases in the region and logistical and military means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhara Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Just remember what happened to Serbia under the democrats, Armenia is in the same position in a similar position in the Caucasus. Mainly that she is pro-Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 If my intuition is correct, Bush will not be elected. I am willing to gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 I think Sasun's intuition is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Not quite sure if this will be important to anyone...but here goes... How the vaccine works: > > Influenza vaccine is produced by growing the virus in eggs. The >virus is killed and processed to create the vaccine, which is given by >injection under the skin. The body then produces antibodies to the virus >over the next two to four weeks. If the immunized person then comes into >contact with the influenza virus, the antibodies attack and kill the virus >before it has a chance to cause infection. The vaccine contains the 3 most >likely strains to be active during the "flu season" > > Why the shortage: > > Almost half of the nation's flu vaccine will not be delivered this >year. Chiron, a major manufacturer of flu vaccine, will not be distributing >any influenza vaccine this flu season. Chiron was to make 46-48 million >doses vaccine for the United States. Chiron is a British company. Recently >British health officials stopped Chiron from distributing and making the >vaccine when inspectors found unsanitary conditions in the labs. Some lots >of the vaccine were recalled and destroyed. > > Why is our vaccine made in the UK and not the US? > > The major pharmaceutical companies in the US provided almost 90% of >the nations flu vaccine at one time. They did this despite a very low profit >margin for the product. Basically, they were doing us a favor. In the late >80's a man from North Carolina who had received the vaccine got the flu. The >strain he caught was one of the strains in that years vaccine made by a US >company. What did he do? He sued and he won. He was awarded almost $5 >million! After that case was appealed and lost, most US pharmaceutical >companies stopped making the vaccine. The liability out weighed the profit >margin. Since UK and Canadian laws prohibit such frivolous law suits UK and >Canadian companies began selling the vaccine in the US. > > By the way...the lawyer that represented the man in the flu shot law >suit was a young ambulance chaser by the name of John Edwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dianjan Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 If my intuition is correct, Bush will not be elected. I am willing to gamble. style_images/master/snapback.png From your mouth, to God's ears. Lets hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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