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You seem to enjoy contradicting yourself. My favorite statement is this: "And I'm not claiming other continents are morally superior." And quickly followed by "PS: Armenak, I consider you a better man because of your un-Europeanness, " You then proceeded to confirming my earlier suspicion that you didn't grasp the fundamental difference between Hrya money-loving values and classical Western values. Those same western values that gave us philosophy, magnificent architecture, empires like the Romans and British, exploration, the thirst for knowledge and to better ourselves both physically and mentally. No other people posses this fire inside them like we do. As I said, if you arnt happy living in peace (no tribe will come raiding your village in the dawn), prosperity (you dont have to walk 8 miles a day to get water) and comfort (you, at least, can feed yourself 3 times a day every day), then you are more then welcome to pack your things and move to the morally superior third world. *Side note: If my words may seem insulting to some, know that it is the last of my intentions, I am merely expressing my disbelief at good young men and women who are ashamed of the blood that flows in their veins. Regards Eire

I think you are confusing MTV multicultural values with true western values. If you are referring to true western values however, you are more then welcome to pack your things, wrap a turban around your head or a piece of cloth around your waist and move to the other morally "superior" continents. Eire

What an ignorant statement to make.

Typical Armenian behavior. Blame anyone and everyone that didnt come to help us. Understand that countries have interests, not friends. Have no illusions on that. ALL governments have failed us, ALL, including our own. It doesnt change our blood or who we are. I have a lot of respect for you Moses, and know that I mean no insult when I say this but; read up on the origins of our people. Read about our language, our customs and our blood and how close we are to the rest of our European brothers and sisters. True European nationalists know where their loyalties lie. Eire

Our conduct doesnt change our race nor our blood. Sure there is corruption, and all kinds of other soviet leftovers in our country, but that doesnt change who we are. I am European. I have Europe in my head, my heart, my blood and my bones. Armenians are an ancient European people and I am damned proud that our government officials are reasserting our brotherhood to our European kin. Im tired of being compared to middle easterners or damned turks. I am not some desert-dwelling Semite, and I am not some slant-eyed descendant of Mongols. I come from the race that brought us the worlds greatest empires, the worlds greatest thinkers, the worlds most beautiful architecture. Be proud of your European blood and heritage. Arouyn ou Badiv Eire

I'm looking for the Armenian equivalent of Aries/Mars Basically our god of war. (Dont say Vahagn, he is our equivalent of Hercules...) Thanks Eire

This thread shouldnt even exist. Besides half-baked theories on just about everyone having some Armenian blood (WHO CARES IF PRINCESS DIANA HAD SOME ARMENIAN BLOOD, GWEN STEFANIE?? WHO CARES?), the idea that we could accept any Armenian who converted to Islam as true Armenians is beyond me. To address Ata Convert's earlier point that Tigran The Great was not a Christian, The thing about Islam is that by accepting it, the convert adopts an Arabic (I.E. Middle Eastern)lifestyle. We are not a Middle Eastern people. Our culture is NOT Middle Eastern (some ignorant Armenians might disagree with me). I would accept a pagan Armenian over a muslim one any day. The simple fact is that paganism is of our own people. Our gods walked with us, they drank from our rivers and ate from our trees. Christianity is now an integral part of our culture, and I rather the loving Christian values over any other faith. This thread should be taken down. I dont care what some Turkified Armenian did. He converted? Good on him, but the blood we share is no longer valid. Might as well open a thread about Buddhist achievements or Australian Aborigines... it has as much to do with Armenians as Islam. Eire

"Most" white men? Doubtful. I find it really sad to see Armenians that still lean towards the left, especially communism... How many times are we going to have to be slapped in the face before we learn? Eire

I have a problem with good white men dying for a cause that isn't their own, but a war to fight communism is a noble enough endeavor. Seeing as how you enjoy collecting rubbish books, might I suggest "the Cat in the Hat" by Dr Seuss? I find his views on Viet Nam to be just as accurate as Howard's Cheers mate! Your friend Eire

All politicians are prostitutes, thats the point Im trying to get across. Also, "dropping bombs over the peaceful population of Hanoi"? Sounds like someone read "A People's History of America"... Eire

I understand and hope you see that my intention was never to attack you Mousegh Jan!

I find it to be a low blow to take a strike at his captivity and torture just because his interests don't coincide with our own. Let him be ignorant, let him be an idiot, let him be a Turkish tool. You can't hate him for putting his countries interests ahead of our own, even though he's in the wrong. Granted, he's in the wrong, and probably knows it, but he is a politician after all. Behaving like this is shameful. Attacking people personally because they refuse to help us doesn't encourage help, it encourages bitterness and hate. Fighting for our cause doesn't include bullying those who don't Just my thoughts Eire

Great... so they are now using Armenians to help them get into Europe? Him being appointed was deliberate, and I'm sorry to say but he should immediately step down. No way in hell we are going to betray our European brothers and let the Turk loose in Europe. No way in hell... Eire

Actually, the only people willing to even address this issue are the European right-wing populist parties who are slowly gaining ground in almost every European country. Does this show a racist trend amongst native Europeans? Or does it just point to the fact that White Europeans are sick and tired of being force-fed this guilt-trip lie? I find it rather appalling to see Armenians supporting Muslims or even defending their actions at any time (see Lebanese elections and who provided Hezbollah with it's rare Christian votes). If one properly studies history, Islamic expansion just jumps out and can be easily recognized. A perfect example of this European guilt-trip, we can see in the above article that the Crusades were noted as an example of Christian agression towards Muslims, when in fact it all started with the Byzantine attempt to deliver the Christian populations of Armenia from the hands of the Seljuks, resulting in the pivotal battle of manazkert. Its time for white Europeans, Armenians included, to stop accepting this "religious freedom" and "cultural relativism" garbage as fact, and to remember that behind our men lie our women and children, the very future of our existence as a people, a language, a culture and a faith. They are all in danger. Eire *Note: European nationalists who have dared to respond to middle-eastern aggression are quickly branded as Racist bigots. See Cronulla Riots.

Well said Shiner It was Obamania all over the Armenian community. Like idiots we all cheered his name, wore his t-shirts and massively supported him. What does that say about us? It shows that we are easily swayed once you promise us something regarding the G-word. Seriously? Are we that naive or do we just enjoy getting screwed over so many times? Our community is dissolving and none of you can see that. Aroun ou Badiv Eire