Rohana

Thank you! They look good. Was it just a litter of three? Do you know the names of the parents? I have been putting off the AGCA meeting, until Hamlik returns from Armenia - and he's back now. With a puppy :)a red male, good looking dog, lots of brain, levelheaded but hasn't been socialized yet. I hope to come to Little Armenia Monday or Tuesday, depending on weather and schedules. I have posted Lucy on the females page on gampr.org (http://www.gampr.org/females.html) I will post a page for her and her siblings, add them to the males and females page...which is which in the picture? do you know their names? If we can find out the names of the parents we can add them too....hint hint.... Thank you! and check the info next to Lucy's pic, and let me know what I should have written, ok? Rohana

She is very pretty. Great proprtions, nice coat. I like this first pic of her best, she has a very intelligent look in her eye. There is a cute little male her age in Pasadena, belongs to Nishan and Saro Paparian, but I don't have current pics. He is gold/blond and white. I just added the AGCA constitution, bylaws, ethics and Officers list to the AGCA page,links are on the 'About Us' page.(http://www.gampr.org/about_us.html) I have several nominations for various posts on the board, but 2 need filling .... any takers? The positions are: Director #6 Public Relations- Director #6 will preside over the Public Relation(s) Committee, merchandise and the Fund Raising Committee. #6 will ensure that the respective committees are on task and fully functional. Position requirements in addition to those stated above: Must have good organization and people skills. and Director #8 Rescue and Newsletter- Director #8 will oversee the rescue committee; helping them coordinate and communicate with other organizations and keeping apprised of surrenders and dogs in need as well as to the number of successful adoptions. #8 will work closely with the Treasurer in regards to funding the club has available to the rescue committee. #8 will coordinate the production of the chronicle, making sure each party that is supposed to contribute does. I am basically covering Director #8's tasks, as i do rescue/rehoming from my house, but I am certainly willing to share, or have a director be in charge of the technicalities. In a couple weeks I am expecting that we will be set up to take formal memberships, as of right now its a bit of a loose-knit group. Mike Ertaskiran of CCAA has offered his help in whatever way needed to help us get more organized and functional - so this is the first step. Also I am hoping we can do some kind of exhibit or show during April...we'll see. Once we finish organizing and have our first meeting we'll know more. So..any volunteers for the 2 board positions? Email them to me at rohana@gampr.org. There may be nominations coming from the people whom I emailed last night, so if we get multiple nominations, we'll have the excitement of a vote... wheeehew. And its ok for people to nominate themselves. Rohana

I can fwd you the email from her, its a bit cryptic, and maybe 'opposition' isn't actually the case, but here's an exerpt: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Dear Rohana Mayer, > > > > I am happy for receiving your reply. Thanks very much. Yesterday, for > > my surprise, > > I found out that both Armenian and Russian articles about Gampr are > > subjected to great > > suppression, and they even want to delete it from Russian Wikipedia. > I > > managed to rewrite > > it within the night, giving several sources, including Savolainen and > a > > Russian geneticist Ryabinina > > (she proved that Kavkazskaya ovcharka is not the same as > Severokavkazski > > Volkodav - a dog, > > similar to Gampr). But again they are not satisfied, and demand to > > prove that some international > > kennel organization recognizes Gampr as a breed. I had never studied > > dogs before, though I have > > several published articles on cats and cat domestication, etc. So, I > do > > not know the rules and I > > guess the rules in cat fancy will not much difer from the same in dog > > fancy. But, wnyhow, I need > > some prove of such recognition. When I will protect this article, I > > will try to edit or create the > > corresponding articles in Armenian and English Wikipedia. But this > task > > is urgent. Thus, please > > sent me any prove of the recognition of Gampr in any respectful > American > > kennel association or register. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I hope she doesn't mind the publicizing of her email! If you want the rest of the written conversation let me know. I think she had a hard time getting everyone to be consistent in helping her compile information, so I hope it went well. I think with the way Wikipedia works we can all edit it, but i only know english! and I think she published in Russian as well. Anyway I tremendously appreciate her efforts. And I don't think I was able to help her as much as she wished. She did let me know that Peter Savolainen is in the US now, so thats a start - I would love to track him down and see what we can do with further genetic analysis. You can email me at rohana@gampr.org if you want a copy of the email from Zarine, if it helps. Rohana

So you are Arthur's neighbor - he is such a nice guy! And his dogs are very good, both bred by Garnik. And actually, they should be especially noisy this week - the female is ready to be bred, but not quite in the right frame of mind~ haha lucky neighbors! If you could share info with the people who have new pups, and the others....thank you! His dogs are much older now than in the pic on my site, well filled out and really athletic. The other dog, Mroot, lives with me now. Ed sent her to me almost 2 yrs ago. She is such a good dog. And she is expecting a litter next month! Here is one of her other pups~ He is 110 lbs at 6 months, in this pic. Rohana www.gampr.org

I agree - Zarine Arushanyan did do a surprisingly comprehensive job on the wikipedia article. She had asked for my input, but I did not have the time during the month she needed it. I am very glad she was persistent enough to see it through. Apparently there was a lot of resistance in the Russian academia to the recognition of the topic. She would probably not mind at all if there were further editing - and would most likely appreciate the help. She does have some information that I think is too limiting for the parameters of the breed, but when i have the time it will be easier to address this. There are somethings we (Armenian Gampr Club of America) are trying to do: Locate all the dogs in the USA. Approach UKC for breed recognition. Place dogs appropriately so that the breed is seen at its best Place adult dogs in new homes when needed Contact travelers between Armenia and the USA for carry-on puppy transport. Also I would love to find contact info for Peter Savolainen, geneticist. If anyone has info or or would like to help with any of the above - please contact me through the website, www.gampr.org. I am working on the site so there are some incomplete pages. There is a man named Paul Agopian in Romania who is publishing a long article on the gampr this week, in an Armenian paper there. As soon as it is available i will post it to the webpage. I do share a lot more photos on Facebook, if you are interested you can look me up with my email, rohana101@yahoo.com, and add me as a friend. There are a lot of attempts at keeping us from recognition as Armenian gampr. People involved in other breeds tend to think that we should be just lumped in with the rest. So I am pushing for recognition,, and the president of the Cane Corso Association of America happens to be Armenian, and has promised to help us in whatever way possible. He knows his business, and I am pretty thrilled to have his support. Rohana www.gampr.org rohana@gampr.org

Wow I am so glad EZ posted here....so how do I get in touch w/ the people with puppies??? I created the Armenian Gampr Club of America to try to find and document and assist as many of the dogs and owners as possible...I know there are more out there, and I would love to take photos, add to the club whatever. We don't charge registration, basically its just me and a few other interested people. With the new regulations in LA county some of these dogs are at risk, and to get them documented, registered etc would be helpful. Some people have been pressured to prove that their dogs are CAO, or caucasian, or whatever, which is not good, just because there is no recognition for the breed here. Gampr are better, if you read the history at gampr.org hopefully you'll agree. I have contacts w/ American Rare breed Association to get these ones we have accepted with them, but we need a few more. I found out that some of the dogs posted on our webpage had some CAO in their background, so I don't wnat to continue their genetics with the pure gampr, that would cause us problems. Also Walter(he posted here) is looking for 2 pups....it would be nice to see if you can help him, and I could arrange a breeding as well. I will be in LA on Aug 2nd and 3rd...it would be nice to meet with as many as possible! Rohana

Hey Armen, I tried to follow the link from your post but it didn't work - is there a current link you could send? I am working toward helping to get the breed established here in the US. Thanks! Rohana